KastKing Reels Just Arrived! 2024

roadwarrior reply :

Just got back from a cold two hour trip to the pond...Skunked again!

So here is a quick review on the two reels:

KastKing Orcas Metal Spinning

I spooled up with #6 Lucky Craft monofilament (the line is impressive). Rod was a St. Croix Legend Elite LES70MF. I chose a "moving bait" to get a better feel for retrieve, specifically a GYCB Single Tail Hula Grub with a 1/4 oz tungsten bullet weight. The rig cast flawlessly and the retrieve is smooth, but sluggish. This might change as the reel gets broken in. On this rod the reel balanced very well and lost the heavy feel I was expecting. The only issue, and this is a big one, is a very limited range for the drag. It tightens down just fine, but I am curious how this will adjust over time. I can't comment on the functionality since I never got a bite.

KastKing Stealth Baitcasting

Aesthetically the reel has a close resemblance to the Shimano Aldebaran, but with gold rather than silver accents. The Stealth was spooled with #40 KastKing Mega 8, Black Ops braid and #17 Seaguar AbrazX leader. The reel matched up nicely with a G. Loomis BCR854. I tied on a Siebert Outdoors 1/2 oz jig/ Rage Tail Lobster. It took a little getting use to before I was able to dial in the reel, magnetic brakes are a bit of an issue for me. I finally settled on a 5 setting with about 20-25% spool tension. Both casting and retrieve were smooth. The drag adjustments are perfect on this reel, but again, I can't comment on efficiency since the fish did not cooperate.

Mega 8 Braid

We'll see after awhile, but my initial observation is too stiff and too heavy for this set-up. Tatsu #12 or #15 might be a much better choice. The line reminds me of the Seaguar Flippin' line we reviewed a few months ago.

cottny27 reply :

Is this a serious review?? I posted positive reviews about this same reel(stealth) many months ago and got a lot of laughs. My only complaint is that the Stealth is a larger reel than today's typical baitcasters. The matte finish also is not the same quality as the top reel companies.

thebillsman reply :

How much was the reel, it looks like they're going fro ~$50.. hard to believe with some of the premium components, high drag and brake system,

cottny27 reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 12:58 AM, thebillsman said:

How much was the reel, it looks like they're going fro ~$50.. hard to believe with some of the premium components, high drag and brake system,

I only paid around $47 on Ebay. It performs much better than any $47 reel imo.

roadwarrior reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 12:50 AM, cottny27 said:

Is this a serious review?? I posted positive reviews about this same reel(stealth) many months ago and got a lot of laughs. My only complaint is that the Stealth is a larger reel than today's typical baitcasters. The matte finish also is not the same quality as the top reel companies.

cottny27 reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 1:05 AM, roadwarrior said:

NYWayfarer reply :

Thanks for the reviews. I should be getting my Kastking Sharky II in the mail tomorrow, can't wait.

I was thinking about getting the Stealth next but I have been watching video on the Assassin and I am leaning towards that reel instead. As cottny27 pointed out its the size of the stealth that puts me off. Also that line keeper in the front of the Stealth is a great idea but is probably going to break off and spoil the reels good looks.

cottny27 reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 2:21 AM, Finesse Wayfarer said:

Thanks for the reviews. I should be getting my Kastking Sharky II in the mail tomorrow, can't wait.

I was thinking about getting the Stealth next but I have been watching video on the Assassin and I am leaning towards that reel instead. As cottny27 pointed out its the size of the stealth that puts me off. Also that line keeper in the front of the Stealth is a great idea but is probably going to break off and spoil the reels good looks.

I plan on trying the Assassin myself. It looks pretty similar in size. However, one review on Youtube a guy claims it's a bit smaller than the Stealth.

Raul reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 12:32 AM, roadwarrior said:

Just got back from a cold two hour trip to the pond...Skunked again!

So here is a quick review on the two reels:

KastKing Orcas Metal Spinning

I spooled up with #6 Lucky Craft monofilament (the line is impressive). Rod was a St. Croix Legend Elite LES70MF. I chose a "moving bait" to get a better feel for retrieve, specifically a GYCB Single Tail Hula Grub with a 1/4 oz tungsten bullet weight. The rig cast flawlessly and the retrieve is smooth, but sluggish. This might change as the reel gets broken in. On this rod the reel balanced very well and lost the heavy feel I was expecting. The only issue, and this is a big one, is a very limited range for the drag. It tightens down just fine, but I am curious how this will adjust over time. I can't comment on the functionality since I never got a bite.

KastKing Stealth Baitcasting

Aesthetically the reel has a close resemblance to the Shimano Aldebaran, but with gold rather than silver accents. The Stealth was spooled with #40 KastKing Mega 8, Black Ops braid and #17 Seaguar AbrazX leader. The reel matched up nicely with a G. Loomis BCR854. I tied on a Siebert Outdoors 1/2 oz jig/ Rage Tail Lobster. It took a little getting use to before I was able to dial in the reel, magnetic brakes are a bit of an issue for me. I finally settled on a 5 setting with about 20-25% spool tension. Both casting and retrieve were smooth. The drag adjustments are perfect on this reel, but again, I can't comment on efficiency since the fish did not cooperate.

Mega 8 Braid

We'll see after awhile, but my initial observation is too stiff and too heavy for this set-up. Tatsu #12 or #15 might be a much better choice. The line reminds me of the Seaguar Flippin' line we reviewed a few months ago.

Pics or it didn't happen.

roadwarrior reply :

Here ya go!

http://www.eposeidon.com/kastking-stealth-carbon-fiber-baitcasting-reels

http://www.eposeidon.com/kastking-orcas-ii-all-metal-spinning-reel

rippin-lips reply :

Yeah, I'll have to pass on these. Breaks my heart, but that's how it has to be. #sadface

J Francho reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 5:17 AM, rippin-lips said:

Yeah, I'll have to pass on these. Breaks my heart, but that's how it has to be. #sadface

I'd be in the same boat, but I'll put my best foot forward, and get some honest anecdotal experience with the stuff. Not all the entry level options are terrible, but these guys are local to me (Syracuse), have a heck of a plan to bring a decent line into the mainstream. I got their pink braid, and I haven't loaded it up, but it looks comparable to most limp, 4 carrier braided lines. Think Suffix, Tuf-Line, Smackdown, etc. I mean, as long as it's close to the 50# breaking strength, it should be fine. Most braid is over-engineered, since we usually go by diameter.

rawjuice reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 5:22 AM, J Francho said:

I'd be in the same boat, but I'll put my best foot forward, and get some honest anecdotal experience with the stuff. Not all the entry level options are terrible, but these guys are local to me (Syracuse), have a heck of a plan to bring a decent line into the mainstream. I got their pink braid, and I haven't loaded it up, but it looks comparable to most limp, 4 carrier braided lines. Think Suffix, Tuf-Line, Smackdown, etc. I mean, as long as it's close to the 50# breaking strength, it should be fine. Most braid is over-engineered, since we usually go by diameter.

I live in Syracuse, I have heard of these guys and interested in seeing how these do. Maybe try one myself, after all, I do need a new reel for my frog rod.

Jeff H reply :

Where are the reels made?

Penguino reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 5:36 AM, Jeff H said:

Where are the reels made?

where all reels other than the high end reels are made lol. China

rippin-lips reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 7:35 AM, Penguino said:

where all reels other than the high end reels are made lol. China

Not entirely true. Daiwa has reels that aren't made in Japan and they're still high end.

MBB Nate reply :

Realistic Fishing on youtube, who is as regular joe as you can get, has been fishing one for a few months now. He just sent his back because the drag sounded terrible. It will be a good test of their CS.

cottny27 reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 8:51 AM, MBB Nate said:

Realistic Fishing on youtube, who is as regular joe as you can get, has been fishing one for a few months now. He just sent his back because the drag sounded terrible. It will be a good test of their CS.

I emailed them about Stealth parts and they called me and left me a message asap. I wasn't expecting that. Offered to send me whatever I needed...which was nothing. Pretty prompt imo.

MBB Nate reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 12:05 PM, cottny27 said:

I emailed them about Stealth parts and they called me and left me a message asap. I wasn't expecting that. Offered to send me whatever I needed...which was nothing. Pretty prompt imo.

That's great to hear! I hope the company makes quality equipment because more competition is always a good thing for consumers.

J Francho reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 12:05 PM, cottny27 said:

I emailed them about Stealth parts and they called me and left me a message asap. I wasn't expecting that. Offered to send me whatever I needed...which was nothing. Pretty prompt imo.

Thanks for following through on the dry run, and reporting back!

In other news, an Assassin arrived. It's light, drag takes some pressure, but it locks down, and at lighter settings, has that typical smooth release from a dry carbon fiber stack. It's not buttery smooth, but it's definitely not rough. I plan to spool it up with some of that 50# pink braid, and rip off some casts.

OkobojiEagle reply :

Our Bass Resource "in house" review standard has become a 5 year test period... I'll be patiently waiting to read it.

J Francho reply :

I would call that a long term test, not a review.

cottny27 reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 9:45 PM, J Francho said:

Thanks for following through on the dry run, and reporting back!

In other news, an Assassin arrived. It's light, drag takes some pressure, but it locks down, and at lighter settings, has that typical smooth release from a dry carbon fiber stack. It's not buttery smooth, but it's definitely not rough. I plan to spool it up with some of that 50# pink braid, and rip off some casts.

Is it a larger platform like the Stealth? Maybe a little polishing of the drag stack can possibly help that out.

J Francho reply :

No, the drag is smooth, I was referring to the retrieve, brand new out of the box. Just some initial impressions. It doesn't quite mean much. I rarely modify subject tackle for review.

fissure_man reply :

Howdy RW,

I'm genuinely interested to hear how these reels perform over time, especially from a guy like you who has plenty of experience with "high end" gear to make a comparison.

The apparent shift in your perspective on ultra-affordable reels like these is curious to me. How do they fit into your mantra of spending a bit more up front for proven, higher quality gear that will last, for a better fishing experience and $$ savings in the long run. Do you think these reels are an exception to that rule? If so, what sets them apart?

J Francho reply :

On 12/10/2016 at 12:28 AM, fissure_man said:

Howdy RW,

I'm genuinely interested to hear how these reels perform over time, especially from a guy like you who has plenty of experience with "high end" gear to make a comparison.

The apparent shift in your perspective on ultra-affordable reels like these is curious to me. How do they fit into your mantra of spending a bit more up front for proven, higher quality gear that will last, for a better fishing experience and $$ savings in the long run. Do you think these reels are an exception to that rule? If so, what sets them apart?

I know I'm not RW, but I'll answer since I'm a sort of "high end" gear guy. I'm in the $300 is the cieling for a reel group. Used or new.

I really don't know. But it's getting increasingly hard to recommend anything outside of the used realm. At these prices, if you get a few seasons out of them, and they allow you to get on the water with casting gear, then I'm for it. Would I buy these for myself? Probably not, but I owe it to the guys looking for affordable gear to put it through the same paces I would higher end gear.

cottny27 reply :

On 12/10/2016 at 1:37 AM, J Francho said:

I know I'm not RW, but I'll answer since I'm a sort of "high end" gear guy. I'm in the $300 is the cieling for a reel group. Used or new.

I really don't know. But it's getting increasingly hard to recommend anything outside of the used realm. At these prices, if you get a few seasons out of them, and they allow you to get on the water with casting gear, then I'm for it. Would I buy these for myself? Probably not, but I owe it to the guys looking for affordable gear to put it through the same paces I would higher end gear.

I believe this assassin is more the finesse version of the Stealth so 50# braid might be maxing it out. I'm more curious to see how it performs with some 10# fluoro.

J Francho reply :

I don't see anything in the specs to indicate this is a "finesse" reel. Looks more like a do-all, workhorse style reel. 16# drag, 6.3:1 gear ratio, Holds 100 yards of 12# line.

cottny27 reply :

On 12/10/2016 at 1:52 AM, J Francho said:

I don't see anything in the specs to indicate this is a "finesse" reel. Looks more like a do-all, workhorse style reel. 16# drag, 6.3:1 gear ratio, Holds 100 yards of 12# line.

Not overall, correct. The Stealth holds a lot of line 165 of 12# compared to this one. Its just a lighter version of that. I thought I read that this was supposed to be able to handle "lighter" lures.

J Francho reply :

I don't feel like this is sub 3/8 oz. reel. Could be wrong, but it's nothing like my Alphas, though it's about the same size.

cottny27 reply :

The Stealth throws a 3/8 senko all day on 15# fluoro, but it takes more brakes than I'm used to. Maybe because of the drilled out light spool, I dunno. I'm hoping you can handle a 1/4oz with this.

Delaware Valley Tackle reply :

The price point of these targets the majority of anglers which dwarfs our little community here of hard core anglers. By all accounts so far expectations should be met or surpassed if they're reasonable at all.

"hamma" reply :

The Rover 60 sized looks to be an awesome striper reel, line capacity, drag, etc, add on the line clicker, left hand retrieve available, and I'm already considering one, reminds me of my abu 6501,... Some of the bass sized reels seem impressive as well. I will wait til someone testing these catches a few fish and has a better grasp of them before pulling the trigger.

Hey Mike, will you be carrying/servicing these?

Boogey Man reply :

RW, what prompted you to purchase these reels?

roadwarrior reply :

On 12/10/2016 at 9:13 PM, Boogey Man said:

RW, what prompted you to purchase these reels?

KastKing offered to provide me and the other Moderators with both the spinning and baitcasting reesl to try. I wrote this review and will follow-up with another after I have fished the gear for awhile and catch a few fish! As J said a couple of posts up, these reels are designed for cost conscious anglers. The key point I think is "value".

OkobojiEagle reply :

On 12/10/2016 at 9:37 PM, roadwarrior said:

KastKing offered to provide me and the other Moderators with both the spinning and baitcasting reesl to try.

so it is worth every penny you paid for it...

roadwarrior reply :

On 12/10/2016 at 10:08 PM, OkobojiEagle said:

so it is worth every penny you paid for it...

Well, I consider this an opportunity to look at products in a pricing range I am not familiar with. My goal is to be objective and not over hype the gear. As with any new toy, the "wow factor" is important and this equipment is aesthically pleasing. On this first outing both reels performed nicely. I suppose the true test is how well they hold up and that takes time.

fissure_man reply :

Interesting. I didn't realize at first that this was a new sponsor. LOL Makes a bit more sense now.

Looking forward to seeing the longer term reviews from the mods and others. There are some impressive claims on the website @roadwarrior linked to, that under other circumstances I'd expect the "Sheriff of the Shimano posse" to balk at:

"A Stealth carbon fiber matrix baitcaster is an upgrade from a conventional ordinary graphite or aluminum baitcasting reel by Abu Garcia, Penn, Daiwa, Okuma, Lew's, Quantum, Shimano, or others at a much lower price"

In past threads the consensus on this class of reels has been extreme skepticism, if not outright dismissal, with RW often leading the charge. Sponsorship sure throws an interesting wrench into things

In my last post I kind of asked "why the change of heart?" Is sponsorship the answer? lol Or is there something different about these reels that sets them apart from the other off-brand Chinese OEM reels that have been mercilessly bashed on these forums for years.

Fishin' Fool reply :

On 12/10/2016 at 9:37 PM, roadwarrior said:

KastKing offered to provide me and the other Moderators with both the spinning and baitcasting reesl to try. I wrote this review and will follow-up with another after I have fished the gear for awhile and catch a few fish! As J said a couple of posts up, these reels are designed for cost conscious anglers. The key point I think is "value".

Thank you for your full disclosure.

roadwarrior reply :

On 12/10/2016 at 11:20 PM, fissure_man said:

Interesting. I didn't realize at first that this was a new sponsor. LOL Makes a bit more sense now.

Looking forward to seeing the longer term reviews from the mods and others. There are some impressive claims on the website @roadwarrior linked to, that under other circumstances I'd expect the "Sheriff of the Shimano posse" to balk at:

"A Stealth carbon fiber matrix baitcaster is an upgrade from a conventional ordinary graphite or aluminum baitcasting reel by Abu Garcia, Penn, Daiwa, Okuma, Lew's, Quantum, Shimano, or others at a much lower price"

In past threads the consensus on this class of reels has been extreme skepticism, if not outright dismissal, with RW often leading the charge. Sponsorship sure throws an interesting wrench into things

In my last post I kind of asked "why the change of heart?" Is sponsorship the answer? lol Or is there something different about these reels that sets them apart from the other off-brand Chinese OEM reels that have been mercilessly bashed on these forums for years.

I can't say for sure right now, but if these reels are only $7.00 knock-offs at a premium price, they WILL NOT pass the "smell test". We will have other reviews from the Moderators and hopefully a few members. Then a little later down the road, some follow-up. Again, we are looking for "value" not necessarily directly comparable to a Stella.

NYWayfarer reply :

On 12/10/2016 at 11:20 PM, fissure_man said:

Or is there something different about these reels that sets them apart from the other off-brand Chinese OEM reels that have been mercilessly bashed on these forums for years.

Speaking for myself, I have had no interest in this reel until I saw Leo Sheng review it on his YouTube extreme philly fishing channel. His explanation of the drag made me curious and I did some research about the Sharky II The waterproof drag clutch and body impressed me for the price.

Reading this thread is what pushed me over the edge to purchase the reel as I had no idea of the NY connection. That's what sets the reel apart for me.

So what if they are reviewed here because they are a sponsor. I would expect it. I find it refreshing to see a review on here for us frugal fisherman by those who have higher end equipment to compare it to.

fissure_man reply :

On 12/11/2016 at 12:02 AM, Finesse Wayfarer said:

So what if they are reviewed here because they are a sponsor. I would expect it. I find it refreshing to see a review on here for us frugal fisherman by those who have higher end equipment to compare it to.

Thanks for the reply. I'm happy to see the reviews too. I'm not skeptical because they are a site sponsor; I'm skeptical because of what I see as a pretty drastic change in sentiment toward these reels that happened at the same time as sponsorship

I'm all for giving them a fair shot, and if this company is the real deal, more power to them. I'm always on the lookout for value as well. @roadwarrior and @J Francho cleared the air on my concerns, and I look forward to seeing the honest reviews once these reels have been put through their paces.

.ghoti. reply :

I have not received my samples at this time. I agreed to participate, with the idea in mind that i would look at these products as an option for the budget minded angler. Like RW, and J F, that would not be me. I have and use mid to high end gear. I can do so because i have no kids to take up all my resources. My kids all all grown, on their own, out of the house, and off the payroll.

when i was younger, still with kids depending on me, a high end rod or reel was out of the question. And, at that time, there was nothing like Bass Resource to offer any advice on what was decent at my price point. I bought low priced gear, and occsionally got stuck using a dud, because i didnt have anywhere to go for advice in the first place, and couldnt afford to buy something else once I spent what little extra I had.

I remember those times well.

My plan is to do a complete breakdown on whatever reels they send me. I will expose their guts to the world. And offer my opinion. I will then pass the reels on to a Bass Resource member, with their promise to do a review, once they've had a chance to use them.

Delaware Valley Tackle reply :

If these products pass muster here it will be game changing for the company. The mere fact that you're taking the time to review them seems to have elevated the perception of them in general.

Caliyak reply :

These reels are all carbon fiber frames?

Hez reply :

On 12/11/2016 at 1:41 AM, .ghoti. said:

when i was younger, still with kids depending on me, a high end rod or reel was out of the question.

This is me now lol

On 12/11/2016 at 1:41 AM, .ghoti. said:

My plan is to do a complete breakdown on whatever reels they send me. I will expose their guts to the world.

Looking forward to it

Bluebasser86 reply :

Just received my KastKing spinning reel tonight, a Kodiak 2000. It looks very nice and felt smooth during the initial spin test. Drag was cranked down pretty hard, had to loosen it up a bit. Has a nice clicking drag setting. The anti-reverse didn't have an ounce of backplay and the switch is tucked neatly out of the way on the backside of the reel. It's listed as a saltwater reel, and it's towards the top end size of what I like for bass, but I'm hoping to get some convicts to do their best to rip the guts out of it this winter. If it stands up to them, it'll handle any bass I'm going to run into. Didn't have time to do much with it, just took it out of the package to ogle.

*Hootie reply :

There was an ad in several of the fishing magazines a couple of years ago, where one of the big name pros stated, "The first time I used "blah blah", I was sold. "NAH"!....The first time you used "blah blah" you were paid"....just sayin'.

Hootie

kickerfish1 reply :

No thanks, and not for me. Lews and BPS already dominate the low end of the reel market segment.

RMax reply :

My friend has one of Kastkings cheaper, low end baitcasters (Royal maybe Spartacus) and it is not very good. It was performing okay to start the day off (first time using it) but a couple hours later, he would cast and the spool wouldn't engage. He would reel with no line being taken in so I had to come over and mess with it for a few minutes until it engaged again.

cottny27 reply :

On 12/12/2016 at 9:58 AM, RMax said:

My friend has one of Kastkings cheaper, low end baitcasters (Royal maybe Spartacus) and it is not very good. It was performing okay to start the day off (first time using it) but a couple hours later, he would cast and the spool wouldn't engage. He would reel with no line being taken in so I had to come over and mess with it for a few minutes until it engaged again.

Probably got a dud ..it happens. These are good budget reels, not expecting people using $300+ reels to try these. No need to if you are willing and able to spend big money. Fish em for a few years then dispose of them. The Stealth has gotten very good reviews so far and is surprisingly smooth imo. Also, they are good reels to learn to do your own maintenance on before jumping into your Shimanos & Daiwas, etc. I can't think of better reels in the $50 range with all carbon frames, drag, handles, dual brakes. Any I have felt are geary with a lot of play in the handle, anti reverse bearing.

Raul reply :

I'd rather get me a 60 bucks Daiwa Laguna and I know it's going to last a very looooong time, my nephew inherited my 70 bucks Daiwa Procaster that got a real good beating for years and he's still beating it, other than cosmetics the reel is in perfect condition.

roadwarrior reply :

"The test of time" can't be discounted, but the possibility of discovering something new might be fun!

Choporoz reply :

I suspect the real risk (for KK and BR) is that this audience is demanding and varied...at the same time. And many of us will make up our minds about an entire line based upon one experience that isn't necessarily related to the market position. For example, I wrote off both Quantum and Daiwa for many years based upon horrible experiences with entry level gear. Now my favorite reels are my Daiwas and Quantums. Its going to be hard to be truly objective.... because of biases, experiences and...the sponsorship. I wish them luck. I appreciate any and all BR sponsors. But, I hope that those of us that won't ever swim in that end of the pool.... can refrain from peeing in it....me included.

cottny27 reply :

On 12/12/2016 at 12:27 PM, Raul said:

I'd rather get me a 60 bucks Daiwa Laguna and I know it's going to last a very looooong time, my nephew inherited my 70 bucks Daiwa Procaster that got a real good beating for years and he's still beating it, other than cosmetics the reel is in perfect condition.

I've had both of those reels.

Suit yourself. I just like trying new things.

I gotta hurry up and get me more before Bass Resource drives up the demand and cost

Boogey Man reply :

I'm a big believer that as long as you're having fun, it shouldn't matter what your gear cost. So hopefully this will put an end to the condescending comments when someone asks about "value" equipment.

J Francho reply :

On 12/12/2016 at 12:27 PM, Raul said:

my 70 bucks Daiwa Procaster

The metal framed version, with the flip up spool access door was based on their (then, early 90s) Tournament series reels. They were heavy, but casted well, and held up to abuse. I was able to buy a few for around $60, on clearance in the early 2000s. Lasted me a decade, and sold them for around $30-40. They came in red, black, blue and a silver Capricorn model. Interesting to note, the top line Daiwa Tournament series reels were SUPER PRICEY for 1994 standards - $105. Shimano Citica was $80, and I think the Curado was $95. I remember that $20 price range being a big deciding point back then. Point is, price will always be an issue, especially if I think back to my 20s. Buying good gear was a struggle. Heck, finding somewhere that sold good gear was a struggle.

DroneFisher reply :

On 12/13/2016 at 12:52 AM, Boogey Man said:

I'm a big believer that as long as you're having fun, it shouldn't matter what your gear cost. So hopefully this will put an end to the condescending comments when someone asks about "value" equipment.

Nicely put. I am a budget minded fisherman myself, I could afford to get high end tackle but I feel that when it does break down, and they all do - I take it less harsh. I still remember when my REVO worm gear broke. I was broke with it. almost 30$ later and two weeks of time I had it back. Same can be said for lower or value gear. They will break if not taken care of, faulty builds, or user error. I personally have had one issue with a KastKing product (broke worm gear) and I received a brand new reel. That one is still going strong.

*Hootie reply :

As most of you know, I have a whole rack full of top of the line G Loomis rods and high end Shimano reels, yet I fished most all of last season fishing with my Mojo bass rods and Citica reels. Yep, and they were the dreaded G series reels. They performed flawlessly. No, you don't have to spend a bunch of money to catch a bunch of fish.

Hootie

Delaware Valley Tackle reply :

On 12/10/2016 at 2:41 AM, "hamma" said:

The Rover 60 sized looks to be an awesome striper reel, line capacity, drag, etc, add on the line clicker, left hand retrieve available, and I'm already considering one, reminds me of my abu 6501,... Some of the bass sized reels seem impressive as well. I will wait til someone testing these catches a few fish and has a better grasp of them before pulling the trigger.

Hey Mike, will you be carrying/servicing these?

I'll service all brands. In all honesty though labor and shipping may outweigh replacement. I don't do retail sales at this point but I have some things rattling around my head.

kickerfish1 reply :

On 12/13/2016 at 7:35 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I'll service all brands. In all honesty though labor and shipping may outweigh replacement. I don't do retail sales at this point but I have some things rattling around my head.

I agree. These reels are like disposable razors. Use them until they go bad/stop working and discard. No need to invest in reel service and shipping that will equate to a considerable amount of the purchase value of a new reel.

wdp reply :

I'm willing to wait and see what all the mods have to say after they've put these reels thru some vigorous testing. If it looks like the reels would stand up to a couple seasons of serious fishing, then I'd say they're good. I mean for the price, that's about $25 per yr in reel cost. Heck, I pay almost $25 per reel to get my better Shimanos serviced every couple years.

These might be decent reels to use for bank fishing/pond hopping. After 2 yrs, toss em & buy new ones - or at least trade em towards a new Shimano at Bass Pro in Feb.

I got no problems fishing with expensive or inexpensive equipment. I got a $12 Gander Mtn spinning rod I use for shakey head fishing all the time. It's paired with a low end $30 Shimano spinning reel. Works great. Also got quite a few Curados & Citicas on $100-$150 rods.

Now, all that being said, if every mod comes back with exceptional, rave reviews, then I might be skeptical. Sorry mods, just saying. ?

But something tells me if these reels don't perform well, they'll let us know. I kinda feel like they're straight shooters. At the very least I expect a few other members on here will chime in if these reels are complete junk.

Glenn reply :

Hey guys,

I've said many times on these forums before (look it up), but it's worth saying here again - every sponsor, every one of them, I'm upfront with them and tell them we'll give our honest reviews on their products, if they want reviews. Which means that if we don't like their product(s), we'll say that. If we like them, we'll say that too. If we feel something is good, but could be better, we'll state that and why; and so on. Most importantly, we will not regurgitate their marketing material, nor will I allow them to influence the reviews we do.

And they agreed to those terms.

Just an aside, but when I told that to Seaguar, they said, and I quote, "Bring it".

In addition, I've instructed the mods to always be truthful and honest with their reviews.

So yes, they send us product(s) to try out and kick the tires, but speaking for myself, I look at it from the perspective of, "Would I be upset if I paid XX for it? Or do I like it enough to buy another?" Which, btw, I have done that in the past (buy more out of my own pocket). So I don't let the "free" aspect of it influence my review.

It's important to me to run this ship with the utmost integrity, and I will turn away an advertiser if they won't agree with those terms.

'Nuff said.

wdp reply :

Well said Glenn & I appreciate the honesty & integrity!

Good to know the quote from Seaguar. That's what you want to hear from a company when you're the consumer. Btw, I'm a big fan of Invizx.

J Francho reply :

On 12/13/2016 at 9:45 AM, kickerfish1 said:

I agree. These reels are like disposable razors. Use them until they go bad/stop working and discard. No need to invest in reel service and shipping that will equate to a considerable amount of the purchase value of a new reel.

After opening my reel up, there's nothing really "cheap" or any cut corners on them. I see no reason to avoid basic maintenance, like oiling the spool bearings, knobs, and worm gear like you should with any other reel, irrespective of cost. This will ensure long term duty, and top performance.

kickerfish1 reply :

On 12/13/2016 at 9:48 PM, J Francho said:

After opening my reel up, there's nothing really "cheap" or any cut corners on them. I see no reason to avoid basic maintenance, like oiling the spool bearings, knobs, and worm gear like you should with any other reel, irrespective of cost. This will ensure long term duty, and top performance.

You are correct. What I was referring to was sending the reel in for service. Why pay $30 for service and shipping both ways when that is about half the cost of the reel especially if it was sent in to fix an issue. Who's not to say it would not need another fix sometime and at an additional $30 that is now the same amount invested as a new reel. That is what I meant by disposable...not worth all the added repair costs.

J Francho reply :

Oh, I agree with that totally. And should anything occur within the warranty period, CALL THEIR SUPPORT!

cottny27 reply :

On 12/13/2016 at 10:14 PM, kickerfish1 said:

You are correct. What I was referring to was sending the reel in for service. Why pay $30 for service and shipping both ways when that is about half the cost of the reel especially if it was sent in to fix an issue. Who's not to say it would not need another fix sometime and at an additional $30 that is now the same amount invested as a new reel. That is what I meant by disposable...not worth all the added repair costs.

I agree with this. These are $50 reels just do the basic oiling yourself. What does shipping go for about $25?

kickerfish1 reply :

On 12/13/2016 at 11:02 PM, cottny27 said:

I agree with this. These are $50 reels just do the basic oiling yourself. What does shipping go for about $25?

Depends on the carrier and number of reels. For one reel you should be able to send it for $7-10 and figure about the same in return shipping.

cottny27 reply :

On 12/13/2016 at 10:15 PM, J Francho said:

Oh, I agree with that totally. And should anything occur within the warranty period, CALL THEIR SUPPORT!

JF, any chance you can take a pic of the reel in your hand? I'd like to see its size compared to the Stealth which is quite large.

Thanks.

Gavin.Ange reply :

Im lucky enough to own some quality, and high end reels from multiple brand and have never tried KK, so I cant judge a book by its cover but wouldnt you be better getting a abu garcia black max/silver max, or maybe even a new shimano caius?

J Francho reply :

On 12/14/2016 at 5:53 AM, cottny27 said:

JF, any chance you can take a pic of the reel in your hand? I'd like to see its size compared to the Stealth which is quite large.

Thanks.

Will do. It's about the size of an Alphas/Sol. Pretty compact.

.ghoti. reply :

On 12/14/2016 at 6:02 AM, Gavin.Ange said:

Im lucky enough to own some quality, and high end reels from multiple brand and have never tried KK, so I cant judge a book by its cover but wouldnt you be better getting a abu garcia black max/silver max, or maybe even a new shimano caius?

Would it be better? Dont know. But after I get one, tear it down, and give it spin, I will tell you. That would be the point. We are going to try them out, and give our opinions.

rawjuice reply :

Im definitely interested in hearing all the reviews/opinions on this at some point, I have to replace one of my reels this year and was planning on ordering something around the $150-200 range as most my reels are but if i can save some cash and still have a good reel, why not?

J Francho reply :

The $150 - $200 range is in a different class altogether, and that reel should last at least a decade, with proper care.

rawjuice reply :

On 12/15/2016 at 1:37 AM, J Francho said:

The $150 - $200 range is in a different class altogether, and that reel should last at least a decade, with proper care.

Very true!

Bluebasser86 reply :

Took mine for a test drive today (Kodiak 2000 and Assassin). Performed good enough to put a couple dozen fish in the boat. Never got above 30 out so I had some casting issues with the Assassin, but the verdict is out if that was due to numb fingers and icy guided combined with 20mph wind, or if it was the reel.

roadwarrior reply :

I fished both reels last week and will be taking to Texas next week. Report to follow!

Gooldy reply :

Any more updates on these? Are any of the mods going to be getting one of the Speed Demon 9.3:1's?

jdz197 reply :

I've fished the stealth for a week with 40 lb 8 carrier braid.

Casting distance - good

Drag: good

Smoothness: poor

Fit and finish: fair

Braking: fair

Value: fair

Can feel gear vibrations at same point on crank gear every revolution. Smoothness issue is in the braking side plate as the spool free wheels when it is removed.

Paid 35 on amazon lightning sale.

Would go with a black or silver max instead at this price range until further notice. Will contact eposeidon/kastking and see what they can do.

Still anxiously anticipating the speed demon to come back in stock.

U-boat Aficionado reply :

I ordered a 40 size KastKing Rover thinking to use it as a budget rig for pier and jetty fishing; maybe go after striper or blues a couple times a year.

When I received it, I disassembled completely and spent an hour removing whatever the glue is that passes for lubrication in China. The internal components seemed, well they seemed ok for a sub $50 reel. After re-lubing, the action was smoother. I spooled up with 15# Big Game and so far the only use it's seen is casting a hunk of lead in the yard. One big design problem/concern is where the spool meets the edges of the reel frame. There's a gap that's just the right size to suck in your line, and if you backlash at all, line gets in there and wraps right around the spool spindle where you can't get to it.

I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to really test it, but I think it will be fine for trolling, dropping a hunk of squid or bunker off the rocks, or even as a poor man's swimbait reel. I'd really like to see if other people have any experience with these, and not just Amazon reviews that in my mind are always suspect.

kickerfish1 reply :

On 12/17/2016 at 6:51 PM, roadwarrior said:

I fished both reels last week and will be taking to Texas next week. Report to follow!

Any more to this? Did they survive the Texas fish?

Bluebasser86 reply :

On 3/2/2017 at 5:42 AM, Gooldy said:

Any more updates on these? Are any of the mods going to be getting one of the Speed Demon 9.3:1's?

I don't know if they're going to be sending us any, but after heavy use of the Assassin I received, I have enough confidence in their stuff that I ordered a Speed Demon. I haven't received it yet, anxiously awaiting it though.

On 3/3/2017 at 2:25 AM, kickerfish1 said:

Any more to this? Did they survive the Texas fish?

I put my Assassin through a torture test this winter handing wipers on rattle baits and it's handled it all to this point.

Bassakwards reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 12:50 AM, cottny27 said:

Is this a serious review?? I posted positive reviews about this same reel(stealth) many months ago and got a lot of laughs. My only complaint is that the Stealth is a larger reel than today's typical baitcasters. The matte finish also is not the same quality as the top reel companies.

I remeber that almost everyone ridiculed you i bought a stealth for my son and i have compared it to my Revo stx Johnn Morris 'll signature series and my Lew mb series and so far i cant find any fault it casts as well btw all my other reels have upgraded ABEC 7 ceramic hybrid bearings

I also ordered myself a kastking speed demon and a mako 2500 spinning reel to try.

Edited April 14, 2017 by Bassakwards
Grammar

WPCfishing reply :

I'll stick with my Lews reels. But it's good to hear positive reviews about a

budget reel. I'm sure it will be a great starter for young anglers or those who are new to baitcasters.

cottny27 reply :

On 4/13/2017 at 11:51 AM, Bassakwards said:

I remeber that almost everyone ridiculed you i bought a stealth for my son and i have sacred compared it to my Revo std Johnn Morris signature series and my Lew mb series and so far i cant find any fault it casts as well btw all my other reels have upgraded ABEC 7 ceramic hybrid bearings

I also ordered myself a kastking speed demon and a mako 2500 spinning reel to try.

Folks get patterned and don't like change, but are missing out on the KastKing party

hunterPRO1 reply :

stealth will arrive saturday, will do a review of it, probably be alot of black max comparisons.

edit: make that monday

mllrtm79 reply :

On 4/14/2017 at 2:46 AM, hunterPRO1 said:

probably be alot of black max comparisons

I think you will be surprised, for me it was more like my Caenan than the black max. I may have to get a couple more actually, but we'll see.

cottny27 reply :

On 4/14/2017 at 3:22 AM, mllrtm79 said:

I think you will be surprised, for me it was more like my Caenan than the black max. I may have to get a couple more actually, but we'll see.

Smoother on the cast and retrieve imo. Doesn't feel like a $40 Black Max at all.

WPCfishing reply :

On 12/13/2016 at 7:35 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I'll service all brands. In all honesty though labor and shipping may outweigh replacement. I don't do retail sales at this point but I have some things rattling around my head.

So do many cheap reels! lol

Bassakwards reply :

Well i recived my kastking speed demon on 4/13 and after reading all the reviews on kastking products. Thought I would be a good idea to oil the bearings and grease the gears before it starting getting noisy. I did not know the threads on the handle were reverse threaded on the retaining nut and broke it .So I called kastings customer service and no questions asked sent me a new retaining nut along with a tracking number free of charge.

I thought should deserve some recognigion.

Bassakwards reply :

On 4/14/2017 at 3:22 AM, mllrtm79 said:

I think you will be surprised, for me it was more like my Caenan than the black max. I may have to get a couple more actually, but we'll see.

I 'll be honest my sons stealth centrifugal brake is built like it could break if you push to hard on the pins.I be had the black max,silver max and promax and the kastking performs better imo but built qaulity is not as good as the ABU's.

I like the kastking but i dont know how long they will hold you?For example i have a Abu black max from '93 a STX 2006 and a 550ca from 84 that still work.I don't think the kastkings will b

But if i can get 2-3 years ill be happy.

Bassakwards reply :

WelI today in the mail i recived the speed demon brass retaining nut i broke ,i reassembled the reel and spoiled with 30#power braid and mounted on 6'6" Maxcatch med heavy rod and did you some practice cast with a 3/8 oz weight after adjustment

I thought I would be at disadvantage without a centrifugal brake and the spool tensioner did not click like my Lee mb tournament or my revostx and johnny Morris signature series ll.Lets jist say the speed demon can flat out cast out distancing my 3 other much more expensive reels !

Bluebasser86 reply :

On 4/18/2017 at 1:28 PM, Bassakwards said:

WelI today in the mail i recived the speed demon brass retaining nut i broke ,i reassembled the reel and spoiled with 30#power braid and mounted on 6'6" Maxcatch med heavy rod and did you some practice cast with a 3/8 oz weight after adjustment

I thought I would be at disadvantage without a centrifugal brake and the spool tensioner did not click like my Lee mb tournament or my revostx and johnny Morris signature series ll.Lets jist say the speed demon can flat out cast out distancing my 3 other much more expensive reels !

The casting distance has been very impressive with both the Kastking baitcasters I have. It's been a big advantage for me on several occasions this year already.

Bassakwards reply :

Qoute:The casting distance has been very impressive with both the Kastking baitcasters I have. It's been a big advantage for me on several occasions this year already.

That's great to hear,how has the graphite frames held up with braid? SO far i love the perfirmance i just hope the can stand the test of time and lots and lots of use.

J Francho reply :

On 4/18/2017 at 10:38 PM, Bassakwards said:

That's great to hear,how has the graphite frames held up with braid? SO far i love the perfirmance i just hope the can stand the test of time and lots and lots of use.

My Assassin held fine, 50# braid, no leader, and a 20+ lb. carp on the end of the line.

Bassakwards reply :

On 4/18/2017 at 10:58 PM, J Francho said:

My Assassin held fine, 50# braid, no leader, and a 20+ lb. carp on the end of the line.

Thanks that is reassuring

Bluebasser86 reply :

On 4/18/2017 at 10:38 PM, Bassakwards said:

That's great to hear,how has the graphite frames held up with braid? SO far i love the perfirmance i just hope the can stand the test of time and lots and lots of use.

I have not put braid on either of mine yet, but I've had no issues with the frame. I guess I don't understand the concern folks seem to have with the graphite frames? I'm fishing with it, not driving nails. I like the lightweight frame. Another benefit for someone like me that fishes all winter, graphite reels aren't nearly as cold to hold onto as metal reels.

Bassakwards reply :

On 3/2/2017 at 5:42 AM, Gooldy said:

Any more updates on these? Are any of the mods going to be getting one of the Speed Demon 9.3:1's?

I got the speed demon last week and I can't believe how good it runs ,1st thing I did grease the gears and oil the bearings.Then 2nd i loaded up with some 30 lb power pro super 8. 3rd I put a 1/2 oz weight on it along with .my 3 other baitcasters and the speed demon spooled out every cast with stock bearings the other 3 baitcasters had abec7 ceramic bearings.The retrieve is as smooth as butter and of course lots of pick up.

I did order some bearings and i know it won't be so quite i install them but iam curious how it will cast then

hunterPRO1 reply :

tried out the stealth today for the first time,

first thing i noticed, drag didnt feel the best, not the smoothest.

casting was great, thing bombs lures, little bit touchier with backlashes, but it was windy today,

i was fishing a frog, 17lb mono, cast to the edge of a grassline, gulp, reeled down, nothing there, he missed it.

casted back once more, nothing, the next time he hit again, reeled down and swung, first fish on it was a decent 4.5 lber.

reel handled it pretty well, i loosened the drag to see how it did, was decent. some noise in it.

then changed ponds, caught a few 2 pounders, again, did well, had to pull them through some brush.

retrieve was smooth, alittle noise, but felt very smooth.

ended up with 6 fish in it on one day, going to go at it agn to morrow and will report back.

i have it on an abu garcia vengeance 7'mh.

Bassakwards reply :

On 3/2/2017 at 5:42 AM, Gooldy said:

Any more updates on these? Are any of the mods going to be getting one of the Speed Demon 9.3:1's?

I did order some bearings and i know it won't be so quite i install them but iam curious how it will cast them

On 3/2/2017 at 5:42 AM, Gooldy said:

Any more updates on these? Are any of the mods going to be getting one of the Speed Demon 9.3:1's?

I did order some bearings and i know it won't be so quite i install them but iam curious how it will cast them

Mosster47 reply :

On 4/25/2017 at 10:46 AM, hunterPRO1 said:

tried out the stealth today for the first time,

first thing i noticed, drag didnt feel the best, not the smoothest.

casting was great, thing bombs lures, little bit touchier with backlashes, but it was windy today,

i was fishing a frog, 17lb mono, cast to the edge of a grassline, gulp, reeled down, nothing there, he missed it.

casted back once more, nothing, the next time he hit again, reeled down and swung, first fish on it was a decent 4.5 lber.

reel handled it pretty well, i loosened the drag to see how it did, was decent. some noise in it.

then changed ponds, caught a few 2 pounders, again, did well, had to pull them through some brush.

retrieve was smooth, alittle noise, but felt very smooth.

ended up with 6 fish in it on one day, going to go at it agn to morrow and will report back.

i have it on an abu garcia vengeance 7'mh.

If they were selling reels that were regularly failing after one day of catching small fish this thread wouldn't exist and they wouldn't be a company.

All pf these sub-$300 reels are made in the same few factories by the same people. Other than components what difference are you really getting? Most of the components are essentially the same too.

hunterPRO1 reply :

On 4/25/2017 at 11:30 AM, Mosster47 said:

If they were selling reels that were regularly failing after one day of catching small fish this thread wouldn't exist and they wouldn't be a company.

All pf these sub-$300 reels are made in the same few factories by the same people. Other than components what difference are you really getting? Most of the components are essentially the same too.

Just first impression,

I'm going to tie on cut bait and put it to some 10-15lb channel cat someday soon.

Bassakwards reply :

I oiled and greased everything inside because I read too many reviews where the reviewer said after about a month the reels started making noise ,so I didn't want to wait untill then .

hunterPRO1 reply :

took a soft tooth brush, some oil, and some grease to the reel, took it out again, quite a bit better.

threw some weightless plastics with success today, cast them nicely, have to be really smooth with the cast though, you can feel the difference in that lighter spool, it casts a good bit farther than a b-max, but not good if your just learning to throw a casting reel.

NYWayfarer reply :

Kastking Eposiedon's customer service is very good.

While doing routine maintenance on my Kastking Mela II I noticed that one of the screws in the drag knob was in crooked. I tried backing it out and screwing it in straight but could not. I emailed Eposiedon's service dept. asking about getting another drag knob as mine was defective. They asked me to send a picture of the drag knob and once they received it they sent me another one. It should be here before the weekend so I won't miss any fishing time.

lbriggs reply :

I have a Kastking Royale Legender baitcasting reel. Overall I give it a 7.5/10 for the price. I picked it up almost a year ago on sale for 30 something dollars. The drag is smooth and strong, and doesn't need readjusting after a fish. The star drag system clicks nicely and rarely slips. It comes with oversized handles and very comfy foam grips. That being said, it struggles to cast anything around 1/4 ounce or less, and will backlash. The level wind for the reel will unevenly place line slightly on one side of the spool as well. That being said, my next reel will be a assassin from kastking, great reels for the money.

Lures'n'Liberty reply :

Does anyone have input on their baitfeeders? I think they call it a Sharky II. I know this is a bass forum but I've got the flathead bug something fierce. Most of the guys I run with swear by Okuma Avengers which are about double the price, was thinking of picking one up to try, if someone says they don't suck, I'll bite the bullet and get 6 instead.

Bassakwards reply :

On 4/27/2017 at 1:04 AM, Lures'n'Liberty said:

Does anyone have input on their baitfeeders? I think they call it a Sharky II. I know this is a bass forum but I've got the flathead bug something fierce. Most of the guys I run with swear by Okuma Avengers which are about double the price, was thinking of picking one up to try, if someone says they don't suck, I'll bite the bullet and get 6 instead.

There is a video on the kastking YouTube web site Of young kid using one of kastking telescoping rods and I can't remember which reel nut he landed a40#flathead on it but remeber it was a spinning rig

sully420 reply :

Took out my speed demon last week spooled it up with 50# pp paired with a DUCKETT 7'3" heavy fast rod and wow what a great deal castes far with both breaks off. I was fishing rocks throwing a 34oz football jig all day and caught these bad boys, for a budget fisherman like me these are a great option you cant find a high speed reel of this quality for 70 bucks. For the price of one high end set-up you can have four kk's on the deck and that versatility leads to more fish in the boat. I also own silver and black max and the kastking is better i feel like the kastking is comparable to reels in the 100 to 120$ dollar range not ad nice at my revo sx but close.

Bassakwards reply :

On 3/2/2017 at 5:42 AM, Gooldy said:

Any more updates on these? Are any of the mods going to be getting one of the Speed Demon 9.3:1's?

I did order some bearings and i know it won't be so quite i install them but iam curious how it will cast them

That s exactly how I feel, I feel the speed demon reel smoother than my Revos stx s my lewd mb tournament only my johnny morris signature series reels as smooth as my speed demon .The speed demon costs 1/2 as much !

BaitFinesse reply :

The Speed Demon spool has a lot of porting. Has anyone weighed one yet? Light weight spools and linear mag braking can cast really well.

Bassakwards reply :

I believe according to manufa tures specs it weighs 5.9 oz

BaitFinesse reply :

On 5/1/2017 at 3:46 AM, Bassakwards said:

I believe according to manufa tures specs it weighs 5.9 oz

I mean the spool weight.

Bassakwards reply :

I'll try emailing kastking and get an answer

Bluebasser86 reply :

On 5/1/2017 at 3:46 AM, Bassakwards said:

I believe according to manufa tures specs it weighs 5.9 oz

I'm not sure what the spool weighs but it is one of the furthest casting reels I've owned. I'll try to remember to weigh it tomorrow if it ever stops raining.

sully420 reply :

I think the next test for the kastking is what it looks like after a season inside the reel. When i cleaned my reels last year i noticed that my revo sx was by far the cleanest inside and showed no signs of rust or corrosion my silver Max Black Max and Ardent all the same age, showed signs of corrosion and just had more dirt inside. It'll be interesting to see how the cast King compares.

Bassakwards reply :

I think there is a you tube video on a couple of the kastking baitcasters after y plus month's.

Bassakwards reply :

On 5/1/2017 at 3:50 AM, LowRange said:

I mean the spool weight.

I got this on spool weight directly from kastking 'I hope it helpsHello Rudy .7 ounces or 19 Gms.

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Bassakwards reply :

On 5/1/2017 at 3:50 AM, LowRange said:

I mean the spool weight.

Did you get you answer abput spool weight low range?

BaitFinesse reply :

On 5/3/2017 at 2:41 AM, Bassakwards said:

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Did you get you answer abput spool weight low range?

Yep. Heavier than expected given the porting.

Bassakwards reply :

I thought .70 oz was good?

Bluebasser86 reply :

On 5/1/2017 at 11:03 AM, Bassakwards said:

I think there is a you tube video on a couple of the kastking baitcasters after y plus month's.

He's a video on the Assassin with a lot of the reel specs listed.

offsidewing reply :

I can't help myself anymore. i'm all for a quality product that is easily accessible to most consumers, but...

*A post about how far any other bait casting reel besides a Kast King casts*

Most mods: "Its really the rod that does all the casting"

*any post about a Kast King reel*

Most mods: "It's one of the further casting reels I've tried!"

Like I said, I have zero problem with the reels or any of the folk on this forum. I just have to chuckle at the posts sometimes.

hunterPRO1 reply :

On 5/4/2017 at 5:13 AM, offsidewing said:

I can't help myself anymore. i'm all for a quality product that is easily accessible to most consumers, but...

*A post about how far any other bait casting reel besides a Kast King casts*

Most mods: "Its really the rod that does all the casting"

*any post about a Kast King reel*

Most mods: "It's one of the further casting reels I've tried!"

Like I said, I have zero problem with the reels or any of the folk on this forum. I just have to chuckle at the posts sometimes.

reels do have a say in casting, the rod also has a big role to play, as does line, lure weight etc. all factors come into play.

the reels catch fish, they're 50 dollar reels still imo, but good 50 dollar reels from everything i know from my short time with the stealth. my only true complaint is it still has the slight bit of play in the main shaft.

i do need a reel to put on a slop rod (for horsing fish out of the NASTIEST stuff imaginable, its like god himself blew his nose on this spot or something )

i kind of want to see what the new maximus reel is capable off, i might get one next month if i have a little extra money. just to test it.

Bassakwards reply :

On 5/4/2017 at 5:13 AM, offsidewing said:

I can't help myself anymore. i'm all for a quality product that is easily accessible to most consumers, but...

*A post about how far any other bait casting reel besides a Kast King casts*

Most mods: "Its really the rod that does all the casting"

*any post about a Kast King reel*

Most mods: "It's one of the further casting reels I've tried!"

Like I said, I have zero problem with the reels or any of the folk on this forum. I just have to chuckle at the posts sometimes.

I chuckle to when I use my speed demon and I have change left in my pocket.! I have several other high end reels but this kastking is just a pure delight to use .

GrumpyOlPhartte reply :

First, I must apologize if this is in the wrong topic, but I'm not sure where to put this. I trust you moderators can move it if I'm in error, but I'd like to be notified where it was placed. Thanks in advance.

I'm an amateur; fish from an inexpensive kayak, and have to be very budget-conscious. I've been using Lew's reels (LFS and Tournament MB) with very inexpensive rods, but am upgrading slowly to Manley rods, primarily because not only are they excellent for my level of ability, but have a retractable butt for sit-in kayak convenience. To keep to my budget of $200.00 per set-up, I went to the KastKing (ePoseidon) website to ask a question about spare spools for their spinning reels which seemed to be in my price range. I noticed that not only were many of the reels out of stock, but so was their clear copolymer line. This made me suspicious of their legitimacy, but I used their Message feature to ask my questions. It's been weeks and I have heard nothing.

I guess my my question is, "Are all these glowing reviews legitimate, or do pros and folks who order from this company get preferential treatment?" I place a premium on customer service as much as product quality and have personally been less than impressed with KastKing.

Again, I apologize if this is in any way out-of-line. I prefer to believe that Bass Resource is the premier reference sight for casual fishermen such as I, but I am wondering why the reviews and comments regarding KastKing's vaunted customer service which I read here is so different from my own experience.

Bassakwards reply :

On 5/4/2017 at 7:14 PM, GrumpyOlPhartte said:

First, I must apologize if this is in the wrong topic, but I'm not sure where to put this. I trust you moderators can move it if I'm in error, but I'd like to be notified where it was placed. Thanks in advance.

I'm an amateur; fish from an inexpensive kayak, and have to be very budget-conscious. I've been using Lew's reels (LFS and Tournament MB) with very inexpensive rods, but am upgrading slowly to Manley rods, primarily because not only are they excellent for my level of ability, but have a retractable butt for sit-in kayak convenience. To keep to my budget of $200.00 per set-up, I went to the KastKing (ePoseidon) website to ask a question about spare spools for their spinning reels which seemed to be in my price range. I noticed that not only were many of the reels out of stock, but so was their clear copolymer line. This made me suspicious of their legitimacy, but I used their Message feature to ask my questions. It's been weeks and I have heard nothing.

I guess my my question is, "Are all these glowing reviews legitimate, or do pros and folks who order from this company get preferential treatment?" I place a premium on customer service as much as product quality and have personally been less than impressed with KastKing.

Again, I apologize if this is in any way out-of-line. I prefer to believe that Bass Resource is the premier reference sight for casual fishermen such as I, but I am wondering why the reviews and comments regarding KastKing's vaunted customer service which I read here is so different from my own experience.

Hi grumpyolphart I too am on a low limited fixed income everything I have posted has been through my own experience .

I have emailed kastking/eposidon numerous times and I always recived a response within a couple of hour at latest I have had to order a new brass retaining nut and handle for my speed demon and I always has rapid and courteous servicea.I hope this helps you.

NYWayfarer reply :

On 5/4/2017 at 7:14 PM, GrumpyOlPhartte said:

First, I must apologize if this is in the wrong topic, but I'm not sure where to put this. I trust you moderators can move it if I'm in error, but I'd like to be notified where it was placed. Thanks in advance.

I'm an amateur; fish from an inexpensive kayak, and have to be very budget-conscious. I've been using Lew's reels (LFS and Tournament MB) with very inexpensive rods, but am upgrading slowly to Manley rods, primarily because not only are they excellent for my level of ability, but have a retractable butt for sit-in kayak convenience. To keep to my budget of $200.00 per set-up, I went to the KastKing (ePoseidon) website to ask a question about spare spools for their spinning reels which seemed to be in my price range. I noticed that not only were many of the reels out of stock, but so was their clear copolymer line. This made me suspicious of their legitimacy, but I used their Message feature to ask my questions. It's been weeks and I have heard nothing.

I guess my my question is, "Are all these glowing reviews legitimate, or do pros and folks who order from this company get preferential treatment?" I place a premium on customer service as much as product quality and have personally been less than impressed with KastKing.

Again, I apologize if this is in any way out-of-line. I prefer to believe that Bass Resource is the premier reference sight for casual fishermen such as I, but I am wondering why the reviews and comments regarding KastKing's vaunted customer service which I read here is so different from my own experience.

I am curious as to why reels and line being out of stock would make you question a company's legitimacy? If anything it would make me think the product is so good they can't keep it on the shelves.

Try emailing Paul service@eposeidon.com about getting spare spools.

I had great success when I had an issue with my Mela II drag knob. I emailed Paul on Monday and had a new knob by Thursday of the same week. Great customer service as far as I am concerned.

I like my Kastking products (reels, line, buff, waterproof bag, etc.) and I am not a mod. Just a frugal angler that wants a decent product at a price point that won't make me worry about every scratch and dent I put in a reel. Kastking has met that need and then some.

Lures'n'Liberty reply :

Just an update, I decided to go ahead and order a Sharky 6000 based on some of the reviews of the other KastKing stuff here. It asked about it a few days ago with no response so if anyone is curious I'll be sure to let you know. Also not sure this is a model still produced, it's no longer listed on their website. If someone knows if this model was discontinued and why, I'd appreciate an update. As I said further up, not bass related, it's for my flathead rig. I'm guessing I'm not the only guy here who will fish for bass by day and cats by night, or throw some bait on heavy braid in the water while you're trolling or hitting a hot spot on the bank. In PA, I can keep 3 lines in the water at once. The Sharky is a baitrunner reel, basically a spinning reel with a dual drag system that clicks off the rear drag and lets the fish sit take the bait before you flip over to the front drag and set the hook. There aren't many other low end models and the next step up is an Okuma Trio at about double the price. Their similarly priced model, the Avenger ABF, is exactly what one would expect from the cheapest reel that a reputable tackle dealer would sell. I'll be mating this reel to a 10' MH Moderate King Kat but I may try KK's 11'6" Blackhawk if someone can tell me about it. I've never used a telescopic rod to haul in a 50 pound fish and I'm sketchy.

Choporoz reply :

On 12/11/2016 at 1:41 AM, .ghoti. said:

I will then pass the reels on to a Bass Resource member, with their promise to do a review, once they've had a chance to use them.

This, I think, is a great idea. I am looking forward to this...for a couple of reasons;

1. Still a sponsor..and still free, but seems like it would lessen the sponsor-bias-effect. (I applaud all the mods for trying to ignore it...but it will always be there....and even if it weren't, some of us cynics will see it there anyway.)

2. I think that at this price point, the average target customer will be, how shall I say....slightly less experienced at setting brakes and casting baitcasters. I think that 'beginner casters' struggle with reels that are more difficult to dial-in, or might otherwise be more prone to backlashes. Having all reviews from 'experienced' fisherman such as the mods are, might not capture how challenging these reels could be to use...compared to others in their price class.

roadwarrior reply :

Well, we try to make the reviews relevant to the pricing point. My spinning reels (3) are Shimano Stellas.

For much less than $100 the KastKing are not Stella. The baitcasting reels I have used and reviewed have

been quite nice right out of the box. Longevity? I don't know yet, but again, they seem to be a VERY good

deal at their pricing point.

I am not particularly enamored by pro staff reviews of any product, but I REALLY like replies from

our members, good or bad. Some of us have been around here for awhile and I don't think we are

going to "like" a product that we don't care for. However, a positive review doesn't necessarily mean

the gear is going to be permanently added to the stable. I try to be "objective" at then pricing point,

but I am probably not going to replace my gear with a sub $100 combination.

NYWayfarer reply :

On 5/4/2017 at 11:10 PM, Lures'n'Liberty said:

Just an update, I decided to go ahead and order a Sharky 6000 based on some of the reviews of the other KastKing stuff here. It asked about it a few days ago with no response so if anyone is curious I'll be sure to let you know. Also not sure this is a model still produced, it's no longer listed on their website. If someone knows if this model was discontinued and why, I'd appreciate an update. As I said further up, not bass related, it's for my flathead rig. I'm guessing I'm not the only guy here who will fish for bass by day and cats by night, or throw some bait on heavy braid in the water while you're trolling or hitting a hot spot on the bank. In PA, I can keep 3 lines in the water at once. The Sharky is a baitrunner reel, basically a spinning reel with a dual drag system that clicks off the rear drag and lets the fish sit take the bait before you flip over to the front drag and set the hook. There aren't many other low end models and the next step up is an Okuma Trio at about double the price. Their similarly priced model, the Avenger ABF, is exactly what one would expect from the cheapest reel that a reputable tackle dealer would sell. I'll be mating this reel to a 10' MH Moderate King Kat but I may try KK's 11'6" Blackhawk if someone can tell me about it. I've never used a telescopic rod to haul in a 50 pound fish and I'm sketchy.

Thanks for the update.

I couldn't help you with that particular reel as I don't have it. I do have the regular front drag Sharky II and I like it so far. My only complaint was for 10+ bearings it's not as smooth as I would have expected. I think the waterproofing (Up to 3 minutes when dunked) has something to do with that.

GrumpyOlPhartte reply :

First, thank you to Bassackwards. Call it a quirk, but I tend to have more confidence in a product or service that is reviewed by a peer, not a pro.

And Finesse Wayfarer, you make a good point; however, since Kastking had more expensive line in stock, I couldn't help wondering if this was a prelude to a good ol' bait-and-switch ploy. I have been checking the site off and on since I am really interested in their copolymer line and a couple of reel models. Seems they consistently are out of the products in which I am interested. I'm 68 and have seen a bunch of scams. You may well be correct! I actually hope you are. Oh, and I'm just wondering, but are you a tournament fisherman?

Please keep in mind that I am definitely NOT in any way attempting to denigrate KastKing; not with all the positive reviews the company appears to be receiving from satisfied customers. I just know that, for various reasons, products can be hyped and reviews can be "manufactured". Since my experience with KastKing is similar to one I had with another highly-touted reel manufacturer, I am merely trying to figure out if this is a company with which I would chose to do my business, insignificant though it is.

So again, thanks guys! Now I'm going to shut up and just see if there are any more responses that may sway me one way or the other.

Lures'n'Liberty reply :

On 5/5/2017 at 1:25 AM, Finesse Wayfarer said:

Thanks for the update.

I couldn't help you with that particular reel as I don't have it. I do have the regular front drag Sharky II and I like it so far. My only complaint was for 10+ bearings it's not as smooth as I would have expected. I think the waterproofing (Up to 3 minutes when dunked) has something to do with that.

Honestly I wonder how many folks in this forum might have use for a 60 series baitfeeder, although I accidentally caught my PB bass with one.

Bassakwards reply :

Grumpy check Aliexpress Kastking websight

NYWayfarer reply :

On 5/5/2017 at 1:25 AM, GrumpyOlPhartte said:

First, thank you to Bassackwards. Call it a quirk, but I tend to have more confidence in a product or service that is reviewed by a peer, not a pro.

And Finesse Wayfarer, you make a good point; however, since Kastking had more expensive line in stock, I couldn't help wondering if this was a prelude to a good ol' bait-and-switch ploy. I have been checking the site off and on since I am really interested in their copolymer line and a couple of reel models. Seems they consistently are out of the products in which I am interested. I'm 68 and have seen a bunch of scams. You may well be correct! I actually hope you are. Oh, and I'm just wondering, but are you a tournament fisherman?

Please keep in mind that I am definitely NOT in any way attempting to denigrate KastKing; not with all the positive reviews the company appears to be receiving from satisfied customers. I just know that, for various reasons, products can be hyped and reviews can be "manufactured". Since my experience with KastKing is similar to one I had with another highly-touted reel manufacturer, I am merely trying to figure out if this is a company with which I would chose to do my business, insignificant though it is.

So again, thanks guys! Now I'm going to shut up and just see if there are any more responses that may sway me one way or the other.

I am not a tournament fisherman. I fish to relax and enjoy the outdoors. Competition would ruin the enjoyment of fishing for me.

One thing to note about Kastking/Eposeidon as I have been studying them since I found out about their NY roots. They are very good at marketing. A lot of those positive reviews you see are due to a promotion they have going on. When you buy an item if you leave a 5 star review you can jump through some hoops and get a free item (Hat, buff, etc.) worth up to $10

I too left a positive review to get one of these items on Amazon. I am happy to say it was a true review though as I am happy with the gear I have purchased so far. (Mela II, Sharky II and Stealth) I plan on getting a Kodiak 2000 next.

These reels are decent for the price and it is good to know if their is something wrong with them their customer service should help you out.

As far as spare spools on spinning reels go, I forgot to mention my Mela II came with a free spare graphite spool.

Lures'n'Liberty reply :

On 5/5/2017 at 2:58 AM, Finesse Wayfarer said:

I am not a tournament fisherman. I fish to relax and enjoy the outdoors. Competition would ruin the enjoyment of fishing for me.

One thing to note about Kastking/Eposeidon as I have been studying them since I found out about their NY roots. They are very good at marketing. A lot of those positive reviews you see are due to a promotion they have going on. When you buy an item if you leave a 5 star review you can jump through some hoops and get a free item (Hat, buff, etc.) worth up to $10

I too left a positive review to get one of these items on Amazon. I am happy to say it was a true review though as I am happy with the gear I have purchased so far. (Mela II, Sharky II and Stealth) I plan on getting a Kodiak 2000 next.

These reels are decent for the price and it is good to know if their is something wrong with them their customer service should help you out.

As far as spare spools on spinning reels go, I forgot to mention my Mela II came with a free spare graphite spool.

I'm no tournament fisherman either, matter of fact all of my bass casting rods have closed face reels on them. I won't fish a baitcaster, one bird nest can ruin your whole day, and I'm not out practicing nearly enough to be good with one, but I'm proficient enough with my push button reels to help a buddy prefish from time to time. I do live on the Monongahela River as well, where catfish are king, but on a good day, you might catch 3. I also try to help pull catfish and turtles out of private ponds when asked. The big gear makes quick work of a jug line in those places, and it makes the property owners very happy and let me come out whenever I like.

Can you link me to the hoops? I like free stuff. I'll write an honest review no problem but if these are as good as I'm hoping I might as well get a free hat.

NYWayfarer reply :

On 5/5/2017 at 4:03 AM, Lures'n'Liberty said:

I'm no tournament fisherman either, matter of fact all of my bass casting rods have closed face reels on them. I won't fish a baitcaster, one bird nest can ruin your whole day, and I'm not out practicing nearly enough to be good with one, but I'm proficient enough with my push button reels to help a buddy prefish from time to time. I do live on the Monongahela River as well, where catfish are king, but on a good day, you might catch 3. I also try to help pull catfish and turtles out of private ponds when asked. The big gear makes quick work of a jug line in those places, and it makes the property owners very happy and let me come out whenever I like.

Can you link me to the hoops? I like free stuff. I'll write an honest review no problem but if these are as good as I'm hoping I might as well get a free hat.

If you purchased the reel on Amazon go to http://www.eposeidon.com/freefishingtackle and follow the instructions. Once they can see your review hyperlink of a verified purchase they will ship you your choice of item.

might be one per customer though as I received my buff for one reel review but I have yet to receive my hat.

hunterPRO1 reply :

On 5/5/2017 at 4:03 AM, Lures'n'Liberty said:

I'm no tournament fisherman either, matter of fact all of my bass casting rods have closed face reels on them. I won't fish a baitcaster, one bird nest can ruin your whole day, and I'm not out practicing nearly enough to be good with one

took me 10 minutes + 2 youtube vids to self teach myself.

Lures'n'Liberty reply :

On 5/5/2017 at 8:37 AM, hunterPRO1 said:

took me 10 minutes + 2 youtube vids to self teach myself.

I've tried and tried, watched the videos, practiced with friends, everything. I'm proficient, but lack of practice has ruined too many good days of fishing. Quality spincast reels and 6 more inches of rod put me right in the ballpark and eliminate the stress that I fish to get away from.

hunterPRO1 reply :

On 5/5/2017 at 10:55 PM, Lures'n'Liberty said:

I've tried and tried, watched the videos, practiced with friends, everything. I'm proficient, but lack of practice has ruined too many good days of fishing. Quality spincast reels and 6 more inches of rod put me right in the ballpark and eliminate the stress that I fish to get away from.

the reason i use baitcasters isnt distance, but accuracy and control, im in total control of the lure with a bait caster, if you hit the button on a spincast the lure stops dead, but with a baitcaster i can ease the lure in there,

use what works for you though, the point of going fishing is to enjoy it, not to spend all day playing with your gear.

Lures'n'Liberty reply :

On 5/6/2017 at 1:48 AM, hunterPRO1 said:

the reason i use baitcasters isnt distance, but accuracy and control, im in total control of the lure with a bait caster, if you hit the button on a spincast the lure stops dead, but with a baitcaster i can ease the lure in there,

use what works for you though, the point of going fishing is to enjoy it, not to spend all day playing with your gear.

Not sure about every reel out there but I can apply gentle pressure to the button on my Daiwas for the same effect and when I screw up a cast I don't have a mess to deal with, although I'm thinking we're in the wrong thread for this conversation. Sorry, mods

BassGirl71 reply :

On 12/9/2016 at 12:05 PM, cottny27 said:

I emailed them about Stealth parts and they called me and left me a message asap. I wasn't expecting that. Offered to send me whatever I needed...which was nothing. Pretty prompt imo.

I have been impressed by their customer service as well. Any question or comment I have had they have always emailed me back right away - and it's hard to find that kind of thing anymore it seems.

Bassakwards reply :

On 5/5/2017 at 1:25 AM, GrumpyOlPhartte said:

First, thank you to Bassackwards. Call it a quirk, but I tend to have more confidence in a product or service that is reviewed by a peer, not a pro.

And Finesse Wayfarer, you make a good point; however, since Kastking had more expensive line in stock, I couldn't help wondering if this was a prelude to a good ol' bait-and-switch ploy. I have been checking the site off and on since I am really interested in their copolymer line and a couple of reel models. Seems they consistently are out of the products in which I am interested. I'm 68 and have seen a bunch of scams. You may well be correct! I actually hope you are. Oh, and I'm just wondering, but are you a tournament fisherman?

Please keep in mind that I am definitely NOT in any way attempting to denigrate KastKing; not with all the positive reviews the company appears to be receiving from satisfied customers. I just know that, for various reasons, products can be hyped and reviews can be "manufactured". Since my experience with KastKing is similar to one I had with another highly-touted reel manufacturer, I am merely trying to figure out if this is a company with which I would chose to do my business, insignificant though it is.

So again, thanks guys! Now I'm going to shut up and just see if there are any more responses that may sway me one way or the other.

I have had nothing but great customer service from lasting also i just installed abec7 ceramic hybrid bearings for spool support and tensioners nice.

NYWayfarer reply :

On 5/5/2017 at 8:21 AM, Finesse Wayfarer said:

If you purchased the reel on Amazon go to http://www.eposeidon.com/freefishingtackle and follow the instructions. Once they can see your review hyperlink of a verified purchase they will ship you your choice of item.

might be one per customer though as I received my buff for one reel review but I have yet to receive my hat.

I guess I spoke to soon. Received my hat today.

Bassakwards reply :

Well I have been putting my kastking reels through their paces and I definitely lime the mako 2500 spinning reel much more than my 2 bass pro shop lite 750 bstter but better xrag to me bdtter all the way around and for what i paid for my bps 750 I could get 3 makos .The speed demon and stealth is definitely better than my Abu silver maxes as far as setting up the brakes and casting distance .Would I give up my lews ,bps signature series Revo MGx or stx ?No but iam still impressed for their performance at price point.What iam worried about is the graphite body ,I still have a Shimano and an old abu with graphite frames that cracked.Only time will tell?btw I installed abec7 ceramic hybrid bearings it casts light weight better but now is noisier.

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