What size rod should I be using to throw bigger sized swimbaits?
A big one.
What is "bigger" size? 7'6" - 8' with a lure weight rating appropriate for the bait.
Need to be more specific. What baits? Top Hook, treble, hard, soft?
After using one for the past year and a half, I don't know that I'll ever buy another that is not at least 8'6" and rated for the baits I plan on throwing.
It all varies on what "swimbait" you'll be throwing. 6in Hudd's, 8in Hudd's, Glide bait's, Slammer's, Rat's. These bait's can vary anywhere between as low as 1.5oz to upwards of 8oz. depending on what bait. More info would help. Take Speedbead's advice he is who I ask for information
Well the biggest swimbait i have is 6.5" inches and weighs 1.3 oz (sinks)
triple jointed with 2 treble hooks
For swimbaits i usually throw the same model.
You don't need a crazy big rod to throw a 1.3oz bait you could throw that on a beefy flipping stick
Well i am upgrading my rods this winter and putting my wal mart specials in the closet for last resort. So i wanna grab all new rods, Like do i want a med/heavy?? to throw them
Look for something with a lure weight range where 1.3 oz falls around the middle regardless of what they label the power as. The terms MH, Hvy etc are subjective and don't tell you what really are asking.
^ok thanks
honestly never put that into
This is a rod I have that works well for that size bait: http://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/mat-daddy-helios-review.html
It's not it's primary purpose, but it fits the bill.
Okuma Guide select Swimbait rod, 7' 11" heavy is rated for 1-6 oz lures and is an excellent entry level swimbait rod for your application. Shimano Cardiff 300A is a good reel for the above rod with 25 lb Sunline Defier* nylon mono. This outfit will handle both 68 and 8" Hudds and swimbaits from 1 1/2 to 5 oz.
Tom
* 25 lb Defier is .016 dia, 15 lb Yo-Zuri hybrid is .016 dia for reference.
165 yd spool of line fills the 300A.
On 11/22/2014 at 3:49 AM, WRB said:Okuma Guide select Swimbait rod, 7' 11" heavy is rated for 1-6 oz lures and is an excellent entry level swimbait rod for your application. Shimano Cardiff 300A is a good reel for the above rod with 25 lb Sunline Defier* nylon mono. This outfit will handle both 68 and 8" Hudds and swimbaits from 1 1/2 to 5 oz.
Tom
* 25 lb Defier is .016 dia, 15 lb Yo-Zuri hybrid is .016 dia for reference.
165 yd spool of line fills the 300A.
That's a nice looking rod, Been reading up on it
What would be a nice spining reel for that? I don't use baitcasters
The Okuma VSeries V30A is a good spinning reel. I am sure you will get more advice from the spinning reel folks.On 11/22/2014 at 8:36 AM, BR1AN said:That's a nice looking rod, Been reading up on it
What would be a nice spining reel for that? I don't use baitcasters
Tom
Try a 7'11" Medium BPS crankin' stick for those small swimbaits
Well, if you use spinning gear, then I guess you want a spinning rod. The Okuma Guide Series SB rods are casting.
Deep is right! The Okuma Guide special isn't available in a spinning rod. You might want to contact DVT and see if they can make you a swimbait spinning rod from the same blank.
Tom
PS, Okuma Cedros C-CC-761XH spinning rod, 1 1/2-4 1/2 oz, 20-40 lb line, inshore rod might be OK if it isn't too stiff foe your application. Haven't fished this rod, I have fished the Guide special swimbait casting rod and the blank would be perfect.
If you're willing to look into a casting rod the new Daiwa DX Swimbait Rods seem like they would be pretty sweet. At $109.99 they're reasonable too.
So i just went through my swimbaits and their not big at all the biggest is 1.3oz (6" bait) and the smallest was 2/5oz. The rods i have now when i used them over the summer my rod would just bend like i had a fish on so that's obviously no good for these lol.
for a spinning rod what should i be looking at?
Look at some inshore spinning rods. I'm sure you can find something that will be in that range that will work with what you are looking to do. Just have to shift to a different marketed area rods. My swimbait rods are musky models. Try to find something with at least an IM-6 blank but the inshore market or even a spinning rod made for musky fishing will probably work for what you're looking to do.
Look at the Cedros series rods as noted, the CC-C-761MH, 1/2-2 oz lures, would also work if you don't plan on using anything heavier than 2 oz, like 6" Hudds.
Tom
PS, finding swimbait rods for spinning reels isn't easy!
On 11/24/2014 at 6:45 AM, WRB said:Look at the Cedros series rods as noted, the CC-C-761MH, 1/2-2 oz lures, would also work if you don't plan on using anything heavier than 2 oz, like 6" Hudds.
Tom
PS, finding swimbait rods for spinning reels isn't easy!
I noticed haha, But i appreciate all the info and replies
i sent an e-mail to tackle warehouse and they sent me links to 5 rods all over $300 =x
As noted here and as you are finding out, a suitable spinning stick for true swim baits is not an easy find but I don't think you have to drop that kind of $$ either.
I'm betting you'll find a reasonable option by looking at some of the low to mid priced salt water applications. I think you have to look for something in the inshore category and you might want to get it in your head now that whatever it is, it will be a fairly beefy wand.
There is a decent selection to choose from. You'll be better served to look on sites that cater to this type of tackle meaning not a bass fishing shop.
Looking & finding what you want is have the fun - it's out there.
Good Luck
A-Jay
Look up musky rods and not bass rods. You can find tons of musky spinning rods that will be able to handle even the craziest of weights. St. Croix has a mojo musky lineup and they range from 3/4-3 oz all the way to 6-12 oz.
On 11/22/2014 at 8:36 AM, BR1AN said:That's a nice looking rod, Been reading up on it
What would be a nice spining reel for that? I don't use baitcasters
Might be time to learn how. Seriously, this is what casting gear is for.
I think i am gonna go with this one right here
http://www.tackledirect.com/okuma-cc-s-701h-cedros-coastal-spinning-rod.html
Make sure they have a return if not satisfied policy. Should work OK if the 7' is long enough for you.
Good luck with your swimbait fishing, slow is better retrieve than fast with swimmers.
Tom
On 11/25/2014 at 3:29 AM, BR1AN said:I think i am gonna go with this one right here
http://www.tackledirect.com/okuma-cc-s-701h-cedros-coastal-spinning-rod.html
Sure if that's your plan. I would probably go here though http://www.jandh.com/okuma-cedros-coastal-spinning-rods.html sinceits half the price. I will say the lure weights on it are pretty lame though IMO. A 2 oz max is kind of a joke and not much of a step up from what you can even get from bass rods. What ever you decide to pick I wish you luck.
The rod you listed is 9.2OZ. You may get tired throwing a one pound rod an reel setup before the bait is added. Its a moving bait so you will have to cast it again and again unlike what most people do with those types of rods with bait and wait. Most people also look for a longer rod to help them load up on the cast. I have never seen someone do this personally so i dont know what the tricks are for that setup. Matt Allen has some great video's on how swimbait fishing is different to regular lures and can cause medical issues with the ongoing heavy weights. This sport is supposed to be fun so manage your risk to injury.
Learn to use casting gear. You will end up with a combo that weighs 1/3 of what an equal powered spinning combo would weigh. Plus, your options are limitless compared to spinning.
Brian, hit up SirSnook and ask for a recommendation. Fish Chris could have been of help as well, but he seems to be MIA.