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Shimano Stradics Made In Japan Vs. Shimano Stradics Made In Malaysia


fishing user avatarsenkomaster1998 reply : 

Just want y'all's input on which you think is better I've used the stradic 2500 fh for over 10 years and has never let me down. But I've heard the new stradics are good but you shimano reel experts would know more than me but just tell me what you think


fishing user avatarTywithay reply : 

I've used the MGFb, FH, FJ ,CI4, and CI4+; from the Stradic line. It's a toss-up between the CI4+ and FJ, but really those others aren't half as good, in my opinion. They all fish well enough and get the job done, but there's something about the newer ones with X-ship and the smoothness you get out of them. I haven't noticed any drop-off in build quality either, if anything they're just as good or better.


fishing user avatarjherm87 reply : 

I use a 2500 fj on most outings. Very nice reel, and I have no complaints about quality. Only time will tell


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 

A given company's reputation and QC are what they are regardless of where the labor is acquired. Design feature wise the new Stradic seems like a step up. I have a Ci4 that I like very much.


fishing user avatarRaul reply : 

I don´t know about the Stradic but my Curado B series reels are made in Japan, my Citi

ca D series is Malasya and it´s built like a tank, I sincerly doubt that given the reputation of Shimano something is going to change other than the nationality of the people.


fishing user avatarLMB KING reply : 

Just like everything else, the older they are, the better they are. some people might argue that, but if you have a 20+ year old reel, you know what i'm talking about. I have old shimano stradic that never let me down. I bought a new stradic, and it broke on me. These days companies are using more plastic in their reels and they talked about how stronger they are. Any body that has common sense knows that plastic will never be stronger than metal. I don't let the advertisement get me, some things are common sense, but a lot of people lack it


fishing user avatarTNBassin' reply : 

I have Chronarch Es made in Japan, and 2 new Curado Is made in Malaysia. Haven't noticed any difference in feel of quality or craftsmanship. If a company has lax QC then it maybe a problem, but not SHIMANO.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

The quality between Malaysian and Japanese mafe Shinano is pretty much imperceptible.


fishing user avatarAlonerankin2 reply : 

Truthfully I have had more issues from my Japan reels than Mayla....


fishing user avatarhoosierbass07 reply : 

I have two Sahara spinning reels and one Symetre spinning reel, all made in Malaysia. The quality looks pretty good to me. In fact when I bought a cheap shimano spinning reel just to play with I made sure it was at least made in Malaysia and it was. I figure if it comes out of the Shimano Malaysian factory it must be at least half way decent. I'm not sure where my Chronarch baitcaster is made, japan I assume.


fishing user avatarSkog reply : 

I have a calcutta b (japan) and a stradic fj (maylaisia) and the have both been great. I took a fall hard this winter chasing steelhead. Broke my loomis rod, reel is fine.


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 

I've owned more than one of every Stradic ever made (except the original Ci4, never liked it and still think the standard FH and FI at the time were better reels, the Ci4+ is another story) and in most every size from 1000 to 6000, They are all great reels, The FJ's I currently own are the best Stradics I have ever used, and I am about to add a new 2500 Ci4+ to arsenal. Like I said, every model I ever used was better than the model it replaced!

 

That goes for the MgF also was a great reel, but the spool was way to thin and to easy to damage to be worth the weight savings, the MgFA was better and had a reel spool, then the MgFB with even more upgrades, I still own 2 as they were the best in that series. The original Ci4,,,it's replacement was lighter but never as smooth as the MgFB and why I never owned one and still have the FB's, The 2500 is about to be upgraded though with the new model Ci4+, as I feel this is a significant upgrade. Hooligan was right on this one!! :thumbsup1:  


fishing user avatarSirSnookalot reply : 

When you have reels that constantly need some kind of repair that are experienced by other people as well, the country of origin isn't the issue, it's the parts and workmanship that suspect.  Nothing wrong with a Malaysian stradic but not the only reel I use that I like.  For a light duty reel it performs admirably, there is a limit in size, target fish and environment I would use it for, a 4000 would be as high as I would go.  For a diehard Shimano user I do believe the saragosa in sizes 6000 and bigger is better option, it's made in Malayasia as well.


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 
  On 6/25/2014 at 2:46 PM, SirSnookalot said:

When you have reels that constantly need some kind of repair that are experienced by other people as well, the country of origin isn't the issue, it's the parts and workmanship that suspect.  Nothing wrong with a Malaysian stradic but not the only reel I use that I like.  For a light duty reel it performs admirably, there is a limit in size, target fish and environment I would use it for, a 4000 would be as high as I would go.  For a diehard Shimano user I do believe the saragosa in sizes 6000 and bigger is better option, it's made in Malayasia as well.

We aint after permit and cobia,,,4000 is a freshwater salmon and Muskie reel! One has to wonder why a few have problems when the multitudes don't????   :Idontknow:


fishing user avatarLMB KING reply : 
  On 6/25/2014 at 11:11 PM, Capt.Bob said:

We aint after permit and cobia,,,4000 is a freshwater salmon and Muskie reel! One has to wonder why a few have problems when the multitudes don't????   :Idontknow:

You have to remember that the bigger the size on spinning reel, the stronger the drag, and we have some 10+ pound bass down here with extensive cover. We also use, like my self, the same gear for peacock bass and big snook. That picture on my profile. that snook was caught with my bass gear. if i were to use a 2500, the snook will easily break that reel or spooled it. so 4000 is very versatile if you're going to use it on multiple fish. I also use spinning gear for jigs, worms, swim baits and frogs. A person upnorth can use a 4000 for bass, salmon and muskie. Also you can tell by his profile picture that he don't only fish for bass. (common sense) :Idontknow:


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 
  On 6/25/2014 at 11:28 PM, LMB KING said:

 Also you can tell by his profile picture that he don't only fish for bass. (common sense) :Idontknow:

Then I would post on a saltwater forum,,, not a Bass forum,,,,,common sense would suggest on a bass forum the question is concerning Bass Size Reels we have been here before!!  :thumbsup1:

 

The question is about quality with different models, not why Salwater fish are hard on an certain reel or size,,,we should keep it reel!!! (pun intended "reel"y)


fishing user avatarLMB KING reply : 
  On 6/25/2014 at 11:48 PM, Capt.Bob said:

Then I would post on a saltwater forum,,, not a Bass forum,,,,,common sense would suggest on a bass forum the question is concerning Bass Size Reels we have been here before!!  :thumbsup1:

 

The question is about quality with different models, not why Salwater fish are hard on an certain reel or size,,,we should keep it reel!!! (pun intended "reel"y)

We are not talking about saltwater, we are talking about size spinning reels. The 4000 size which was your statement (common sense) This has nothing to do with saltwater. Like i said before, some people like myself use 4000 size spinning reel for multiple fish (common sense). Your argument is irrelevant. I'm done here. 


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

Yes you are. This is a friendly bass forum. Any discussion of other species should occur in the Other Species forums. Sounds a little stuffy, and ticky-tacky, but there's multitudes of new guys that take these posts literally. A 10 lb. anything is no match for the typical drag in a 2500 reel. I'll quickly mention that I've caught many "byproduct" species and never felt unmatched. I'll reiterate, for the sake of the OP, there's no perceptible difference based on country of origin, Japan or Malaysia. Throw China and Korea in the mix, and I may have more to say.


fishing user avatarTywithay reply : 

The Malaysia plant is run by engineers and qc from Japan anyway. Guys take turns at each plant for a duration, then switch; from what I've heard.


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 
  On 6/25/2014 at 11:28 PM, LMB KING said:

You have to remember that the bigger the size on spinning reel, the stronger the drag, and we have some 10+ pound bass down here with extensive cover. We also use, like my self, the same gear for peacock bass and big snook. That picture on my profile. that snook was caught with my bass gear. if i were to use a 2500, the snook will easily break that reel or spooled it. so 4000 is very versatile if you're going to use it on multiple fish. I also use spinning gear for jigs, worms, swim baits and frogs. A person upnorth can use a 4000 for bass, salmon and muskie. Also you can tell by his profile picture that he don't only fish for bass. (common sense) :Idontknow:

Sir please reread the OP, we are not talking about mine is bigger than yours, we are talking about where a reel was made, and is one place better than the other!! The same reel, the same sizes, all in the same model. Simply if the ones made in a different factory, are worse or better, so to put it simply, if you like a graphite framed Bantam Stradic from the early days made in Japan,,,,,go for it, most here realize how much better the Aluminum framed FJ (with its plastic used in no place where it would ever need to be metal), is superior, if not I would think they would sell the FJ and for the money they got buy 4 early Japan made Stradics!!! I will be one keeping the FJ and am not alone here,,,trust me. This is what we are discussing, The FH was a very good Stradic, and the last Japan Stradic made, and it was Aluminum framed, Excellent actually. I sold all 4 of mine and upgraded to the FJ after buying one, this was obviously a better drag, better gear system and smoother and lighter reel with a much improved bail and gear system improved spool design, etc etc. In reality this is maybe more than common sense, as most don't know the difference in all these models, but probably what they are looking for hear, and it is what this thread pertains to. Not where how or why you use it, or compare a certain size! :naughty:   


fishing user avatarSirSnookalot reply : 
  On 6/25/2014 at 11:11 PM, Capt.Bob said:

We aint after permit and cobia,,,4000 is a freshwater salmon and Muskie reel! One has to wonder why a few have problems when the multitudes don't????   :Idontknow:

 

 

  On 6/25/2014 at 10:29 AM, Capt.Bob said:

I've owned more than one of every Stradic ever made (except the original Ci4, never liked it and still think the standard FH and FI at the time were better reels, the Ci4+ is another story) and in most every size from 1000 to 6000,

 

You are the one that mentioned owning stradics up to the 6000, my feeling the saragosa is better suited for the demands of a reel that size, made In Malayasia too.  Not that I would have any qualms using a 4000 for muskie, but most muskie anglers do not.  Shimano does say the stradic is approved for saltwater and the warranty covers it for that use, I don't know how it could be construed soley a freshwater reel.  I do think my Malaysian stradics perform well, but I have had problems along with many other people, I'm sure some people have not had the problems and would praise them a bit more than I do.

I have reels that perform quite nicely made in places other than Malaysia too.


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 
  On 6/26/2014 at 12:39 AM, SirSnookalot said:

You are the one that mentioned owning stradics up to the 6000, my feeling the saragosa is better suited for the demands of a reel that size, made In Malayasia too.  Not that I would have any qualms using a 4000 for muskie, but most muskie anglers do not.  Shimano does say the stradic is approved for saltwater and the warranty covers it for that use, I don't know how it could be construed soley a freshwater reel.  I do think my Malaysian stradics perform well, but I have had problems along with many other people, I'm sure some people have not had the problems and would praise them a bit more than I do.

I have reels that perform quite nicely made in places other than Malaysia too.

How many models and now many sizes was strictly to let the OP know I am evaluating apples to apples, in 6 different sizes of these same model of reels, I thought that was what he asked for, experienced opinions using Stradics from both locations??  I think in reality once you have mastered a great tool,,,,,size doesn't matter,,,it will get the job done and more enjoyable, when you know how to use what you got!!! Just what I have been told,,,, :wink3:  It ain't always about hogg'n em in, some like the challenge with light tackle! :thumbsup1:


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 
  On 6/26/2014 at 2:07 AM, Capt.Bob said:

I think in reality once you have mastered a great tool,,,,,size doesn't matter,,,it will get the job done and more enjoyable, when you know how to use what you got!!! Just what I have been told,,,, :wink3:

She lied to you


fishing user avatarTywithay reply : 

I have a 4000 Stradic FJ that has performed flawlessly. I live about as far away from salt water as possible, so can't tell you about that. I don't use my 4000 for bass, but it is my catfish/striper reel. It has dragged in some 50lb+ flatheads and 10lb+ stripers out of a tailrace, and never skipped a beat. I don't doubt that a Stradic "could" be used for saltwater, but I think that's why Shimano makes the Saragosa and Spheros specifically for saltwater. I think the saltwater approved label on the Stradic is more of a "it's ok to use," but not necessarily recommended. I can tell you that in freshwater, for the street price, there's not a better spinning reel out there, period.


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 
  On 6/26/2014 at 3:53 AM, iabass8 said:

She lied to you

  it worked, I got by with it,,,,, :respect-059: 


fishing user avatarsenkomaster1998 reply : 

thanks yall for all the feedback




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