Looking into a good squarbill rod that also work well as a medium depth crankbait rod. looking to spend up to 300. ive been looking at the kvd tour glass rod,dobyns glass rod, and a few other. let me know what works you guys prefer and what works best for you.
I have a couple I really like for 1.5's, wiggle warts Rk crawlers ect.
A falcon cara medium cranker and a MHX 843 blend.. The cara McCelland jerkbait rod also makes a nice smaller crankbait and pop r rod.
I have the KVD Tour 7'4" MH cranking rod. Nice feel to it, also have a 7'6" Quantum Smoke Med Moderate action rod. Both are great for squarebills and series 3/3XD, and wigglewarts. The KVD Tour will also handle the 8.0 squarebill if you're looking to possibly run the bigger squarebills.
Dobyns 705cbglass
St Croix Avid 7' MHM. That rod is the real deal for just about any type of cranking, square bills, lipless, shallow to medium. Heck I have even thrown 5xds on it!
I've got a St. Croix LTB M/M I use for squarebills, and it could get by in a pinch for those mid-depths. I love the rod, but I'd recommend the MH/M for what you want it for. I'm sure it could still handle the smaller squarebills, and be better suited for those bigger crankbaits.
I have a BPS crankin stick hard to beat for the money.
I use a Dobyns 684CB, but I wouldn't mind a 704CB as well. You know, because you can never have enough rods.
Flat Side Special
Favorite for what you described is a Dobyns 705cb (graphite myself, but glass is awesome too). If you like a little longer rod for these, the 764RM is great as well.
Agree on 764RM
i have a dobyns 705cb glass and love it for what you're looking for....
I'm a total homer for the Phenix S-Glass Crankbait rods!
I'm not a big fan of glass cranking rods. I've had a few over the years - just too "whippy' for me. Going outside the box for a moment, several years ago BPS marketed a 7'4" rod in their Extreme series. Woo Davis endorsed it, his favorite pitching rod, so he claimed at a seminar one time. Anyway, its medium action just didn't work as pitching rod for me, however, it works for me as a great square bill cranking rod. Tippier than an MH rod, I get good to great casting distance without too much effort, and should you get bit you can lean on it strong and get the fish up and out of the stumps. Works for me. I'll throw nearly any reaction/moving bait on that rod and not be worried. Buzz Baits - Minus 1's - Heavier Wake baits. I'd throw spinner baits with it if I had to, but I don't, I've got several dedicated spinner bait rigs - but that's a different subject.
I have been using a 7'2" M-MF Fenwick HMG casting rod going on my second full season and it is, without a doubt, the best square bill rod I ever used. Not only square bills but traps and medium divers like the DT6, DT Flat 7 and even a DT 10 all fish really well on it. The rod was strange to me at first, it is rated 3/8oz to 1oz but it is a medium power, kind of odd and I thought maybe it will be too light but not at all. The rods has a soft tip section found on a typical medium power rod but it gets into the backbone quickly like a fast action but being it is a medium power the flex will go further down the blank than a fast action and all of that together makes it great. The soft tip lets the fish get the bait but it hits that stronger section really fast so that pulling a bait through cover or ripping traps off of grass doesn't take but a quick jerk, but then when you hook up, you apply pressure and the rod really loads but it isn't quite parabolic, soft on top but strong through the lower mid section, it is awesome and at the price, well that makes it that much better.
Favorite Squarbill/ Medium Depth Crankbait Rod?
I believe this conversation must include line type used as part of the discussion, and I will do that.
I do not routinely use these two baits in the same water or the same manner so I don't like to use the same tackle to fish them.
My squarebill fishing usually occurs in a target rich environment in less than 10 feet of water. Casting accuracy is important. Also I need to be able to move a determines bass up & out of whatever she's in / around right away. So a 6'9" Glass/graphite composite stick gets the nod here for me. When matched with braid & a mono leader This outfit offers good casting accuracy, decent sensitivity, & solid hookset, while still providing just the right combination of "parabolic" characteristics and fish moving stoutness. That's a fine line for me. After market 2x trebles help out here too.
For mid-depth cranking, I fish a Quantum MH KVD Composite 7'4" cranking stick - again with braid & mono leader. I like the Longer rod for casting distance and the composite material to help the bass get the bait & stay buttoned up. The braid helps hooking up on long casts as well as being thin enough not to affect the baits ability to attain & remain at depth.
A-Jay
On 10/27/2015 at 9:41 PM, Cgrinder said:Flat Side Special
X2. I'm currently using an E6X 845 for squarebills and 5xds but I'm a little underwhelmed after fishing it for a few months. I think the fss will be my next rod...
All my cranking rods are Dobyns which I've had prior to 13 releasing their moderate action crank rods. With that being said 685 or 705CB are both great choices leaning more towards 705 as it will be better for Cranks down to the 14-16ft range and still have good backbone for ripping a square through weeds. Also both are great rods for spooks.
I also have an e6x 845 I use for squarebills and and cranks. I actually really like the Rod a lot. Light weight and good action. It was what got me to switch more Rods over to Loomis.
That being said I would love to have a dedicated squarebill Rod. probably a 6'6" St Croix premier moderate action.
I have a Kistler KLX 7' MH Moderate-Fast "Crank, Rip and Twitch" that seems like a pretty sweet squarebill/shallow cranking rod. I got it late this season, so I haven't got a whole lot of time on it yet, but I know I like it a lot so far.
Tight lines,
Bob
On 10/28/2015 at 3:41 AM, Joe H. said:X2. I'm currently using an E6X 845 for squarebills and 5xds but I'm a little underwhelmed after fishing it for a few months. I think the fss will be my next rod...
It should be. The FSS does a lot right.
I use a MH veritas Winch that I got for $50. For cranks and spinnerbaits I feel like you don't have to invest in a high priced rod, you can generally feel/see a bass whack a moving bait.
Not only is the FSS my go to rod for squarebills it also handles jerkbaits pretty well. And I'll even go as far as to throw a DT10 on it. Maybe you consider that mid, maybe you don't. But it's always with me when I go out.
705 cb glass isnt whippy, but any dobyns will make life more enjoyable
$300.00 is a boat load of money for cranking rod.On 10/27/2015 at 12:41 PM, ShsBassin16 said:Looking into a good squarbill rod that also work well as a medium depth crankbait rod. looking to spend up to 300. ive been looking at the kvd tour glass rod,dobyns glass rod, and a few other. let me know what works you guys prefer and what works best for you.
You can get a really nice rod on sale for $100.00-$150.00
Read some reviews on different rods.
I use the Dobyns 705cbmf glass and I really like it for squarebills. It's a little heavier than I'm use to, but it gets the job done. Does a very good job at keeping fish hooked. Have you had a chance to fish with any of the ones you're interested in?
On 10/27/2015 at 11:11 PM, DTack said:Favorite for what you described is a Dobyns 705cb (graphite myself, but glass is awesome too). If you like a little longer rod for these, the 764RM is great as well.
I agree! I have the Champion 704Cb Glass and find it really launches cranks and has the perfect action to keep them hooked.
I also have the 764Randy McAbee and use it for a tad more distance. Pretty much interchangeable.
I use 2 rods. Megabass XX flat side special and the spinnerbait special. Great rods.
I've been using the G Loomis CBR 845 - 7' m/h action. Usually spooled up with 12 pound FC. I've owned a few of them for around 10 years, caught hundreds of fish on them. I would give them a look. Only gripe with that model, if you're looking for a dual duty rod (mid-deep cranking too) the handle is a bit short for me if I'm bombing bigger plugs . If it's just for square bills/target oriented casting, you'll like it just fine.
Good luck
Okay it's seems like many of you guys like graphite a lot more than glass. I just assumed that glass was the way to go based on videos, reviews and pros talk. I'm not set on glass so graphite is definetly an option. What would be an advantage that a graphite rod has over a glass rod and or the other way around? Really appreciate everyone's responses.
Graphite tends to be lighter than glass.
I think it's more about preference. Some will say use glass, some will say graphite and/or even composite rods. Specifically for square bills, I like a rod that has give but not a ton of give if that makes sense (CBR 845 works for me). Typically, we're fishing square bills around shallow cover, grass, etc. I like to have a rod that I can snap the loose of grass when encountered. If you're using a glass rod, it's a lot spongier and is tougher to snap out of weeds. Also, using the larger square bills equipped with larger hooks, a little stiffer rod will help penetrate the size 2's into a fish's mouth.
There's not correct answer to your question though. Again, it depends on how/where you are fishing which determines the type of rod to use. If you're fishing more open water stuff, a glass (or composite) rod might be a better option.
That being said, a lot of today's graphite rods designed for crankbaiting have the properties of glass without the added weight, thus making them a better choice in my opinion.
I don't own any but have used a friend's Quantum KVD Tour cranking rod. For what you're willing to spend, you can scoop two of those instead of 1 Loomis. They're light rods and very capable of doing what you'll need them to do.