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Flatrock reply :

As silly of a question this might be, but how far are you able to cast with a bait caster... 50-75-100' ?

I realize that is a loaded question with a lot of variables, but lets say 3/8 oz with 12 # -15# mono...

rippin-lips reply :

30-40 yards consistently. Depends on the bait. A 3/8oz spinnerbait isn’t going to go as far as a 5” weightless senko. Typically putting the bait in the right spot pays off more than just firing it out there as far as you can.

Glenn reply :

I don't know. Bass fishing is about accuracy, not distance casting. So I never try to cast far.

Bluebasser86 reply :

Accurately, 30 yards, maybe out to 40 if I'm flinging a trap or something heavy and the wind isn't howling. Long distance casting isn't often a factor in my fishing though.

MN Fisher reply :

I always try to get within 25 yds of where I'm casting to...so 25 yds max.

Flatrock reply :

Like I said it was a silly question, I know accuracy is #1 especially work cover.. Its hard to judge casting distances watching videos... But out in the open I don't think your going to do very well casting 25' from the boat with a deep diving lure.. just trying to keep expectations realistic.

Glaucus reply :

Typically the only things I'm absolutely bombing are lipless crankbaits, squarebills, Whopper Plopper, and such. I can send those things darn near out of sight (not quite so literally), especially a lipless. Casting a lipless is like throwing a baseball, casting a squarebill is like throwing a football, and casting a spinnerbait is like throwing a basketball.

My pitching distance isn't as far as I'd like it to be but it is very, very accurate.

Catt reply :

Even with my years of experience I still try to practice casting, pitching, & flipping evey day even if it's just for 15 minutes.

I have an obstacle course of sorts that has targets at various distances.

This is my extreme course!

Targets: Made from Styrofoam extrusion

36" diameter @ 75 yds

30" diameter @ 50 yds

24" diameter @ 40 yds

18" diameter @ 35 yds

12" diameter @ 30 yds

LionHeart reply :

There are plenty times IMO when distance matters. Especially when fishing from the bank. I'd say 40 yards is a pretty good ways for most lures. Something like a 1/2 oz chatter bait or lipless, a bit closer to 50. 50 yards is quite a long cast.

What Catt said above, that's pretty awesome. I've got a ways to go before getting close to those numbers in distance or accuracy.

QUAKEnSHAKE reply :

Fishing from shore I hook into too many fish out past 100' to not cast that far, often farther, regularly. No reason to limit yourself IMO

NHBull reply :

My landing percentage at 40 yards in 30 feet of water is far worse than 25 yards at the same depth. Boat placement is everything.

new2BC4bass reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 6:50 PM, LionHeart said:

There are plenty times IMO when distance matters. Especially when fishing from the bank. I'd say 40 yards is a pretty good ways for most lures. Something like a 1/2 oz chatter bait or lipless, a bit closer to 50. 50 yards is quite a long cast.

What Catt said above, that's pretty awesome. I've got a ways to go before getting close to those numbers in distance or accuracy.

Agree 100%. Catt's distance and accuracy requirements are awesome. I also am a bank fisherman when home. When visiting Florida I still am looking for distance most of the time even tho fishing from a Gheenee due to boat placement. My casting is more accurate at long distance than at short because that is where I am casting the vast majority of the time. My accuracy practice is casting to leaves, foam cups, plastic water bottles, etc. that are floating by on the river. I even manage to hit a target occasionally.

EDIT: I'd also agree with Lionheart about casting distance. I have made longer than 50 yards under the right circumstances, but that is not something I can accomplish on a regular basis.

Mike L reply :

Go to your local high school football field and start throwing.

Mike

FrankN209 reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 12:15 PM, Glenn said:

I don't know. Bass fishing is about accuracy, not distance casting. So I never try to cast far.

Not always true. Sure if you're on a boat, you can cast any where, but if you on the bank and see a good spot on the other side of the canal/river, you need to cast far...

A-Jay reply :

In most situations, the only 'distance' I'm concerned with, is the one between my target and where my presentation actually lands. The shorter the better.

btw - Two days into it and you're already going for the record -

Nicely done.

A-Jay

new2BC4bass reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 8:22 PM, FrankN209 said:

Not always true. Sure if you're on a boat, you can cast any where, but if you on the bank and see a good spot on the other side of the canal/river, you need to cast far...

My guess is that most experienced guys (gals) on here fish from a boat. They have a tendency to forget that some of us are stuck on shore. Our requirements aren't always the same as theirs.

Catt reply :

At 75 yds I might on a good day with no wind hit 1 out of 10!

I fish a lot of deep water structure at depths of 25', accuracy isn't to import, distance is to maintain bottom contact.

My average cast in deep water is between 30-40 yds ????

billmac reply :

I would say 30-40 yards if I had to, but I'm a big believer in short casts. I would rather move to my target than stay put and cast a long way to it.

Team9nine reply :

They did some testing when they were gathering data for the Precision Casting book, and I believe they determined a ‘short’ cast was 70 ft and a long cast was 120’ based on averages and lure size, or pretty close to those numbers.

OnthePotomac reply :

I am in to massive grass beds on the Potomac, so the grass bed practice is don't cast a mile since it just adds to the difficulty of getting them out of the beds to the boat. I am often working in the 10-15 yd range and that's it.

Catt reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 9:17 PM, Team9nine said:

They did some testing when they were gathering data for the Precision Casting book, and I believe they determined a ‘short’ cast was 70 ft and a long cast was 120’ based on averages and lure size, or pretty close to those numbers.

That's 23.33 to 40 yds ????

On 4/3/2019 at 8:41 PM, billmac said:

I would rather move to my target than stay put and cast a long way to it.

So you would rather be on top of the fish?

Not many anglers today cast to deep offshore structure, there's still a few if us who prefer throwing Texas Rigs, Jig-n-Craw, & Carolina Rigs. Down here those who use the three techniques will out fish those who don't.

billmac reply :

Depends on what you mean by on top of them but I want to be as close as I can without spooking the fish. Shorter casts are more accurate, better hook set, and less playing of the fish if you intend to release them. I'll cast long if I have to but I won't cast long just because I can.

Catt reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 11:10 PM, billmac said:

Depends on what you mean by on top of them but I want to be as close as I can without spooking the fish. Shorter casts are more accurate, better hook set, and less playing of the fish if you intend to release them. I'll cast long if I have to but I won't cast long just because I can.

How would you fish structure in 25' of water where there's no specific target other that the structure itself?

billmac reply :

Like I said, I'll cast as long as I have to, but I'm not much of a deep water fisherman. Most of my experience is in rivers and smaller reservoirs. I'm more used to casting at a target.

Tennessee Boy reply :

Some interesting responses here. For at least 20 years, I’ve been using Daiwa 105 HiLa’s for larger jigs and Carolina rigs. With a 3/4 Carolina rig I can throw all of the line out (about 110 yards). I have no need to cast that far fishing but sometimes I’ll do it just to get a nice tight clean spool of line. Last fall I started auditioning new reels to replace my old Diawas. I tried a Zillion SV TWS and was shocked to find that I could cast a 3/4 oz c-rig about 50 yards max. That’s with the spool very loose, the breaks on 1 or 2, and casting hard enough to give myself a hernia. With a 1/2 oz weight and a normal cast I could hit 35 yards easily. It’s like the breaks are designed to never let you cast over 50 yards no matter how hard you try. The reel worked okay pitching a jig but it failed the audition due to the 50 yard casting distance. From some of the responses here, I’m wondering if most modern reels are designed the same way.

Next up in my auditions is a Curado DC.

Catt reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 12:05 AM, billmac said:

I'm more used to casting at a target.

There in lies the problem!

Most of today's anglers are target oriented, take away the target they can't fish. This is also why they can not fish deep water.

Not picking on you just using you as an example. Most guys talk about accuracy being more important than distance is because they are used to fishing visual targets.

It's also the reason most anglers aren't successful at night fishing...no visible targets!

CrankFate reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 11:59 AM, Flatrock said:

As silly of a question this might be, but how far are you able to cast with a bait caster... 50-75-100' ?

I realize that is a loaded question with a lot of variables, but lets say 3/8 oz with 12 # -15# mono...

200’ without wind with 12-15lb braid.

813basstard reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 6:10 PM, Catt said:

Even with my years of experience I still try to practice casting, pitching, & flipping evey day even if it's just for 15 minutes.

I have an obstacle course of sorts that has targets at various distances.

This is my extreme course!

Targets: Made from Styrofoam extrusion

36" diameter @ 75 yds

30" diameter @ 50 yds

24" diameter @ 40 yds

18" diameter @ 35 yds

12" diameter @ 30 yds

What kind of weight are you throwing 75 yards? That’s a poke

Catt reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 1:52 AM, 813basstard said:

What kind of weight are you throwing 75 yards? That’s a poke

When throwing at 50+ yds you need at lure that is aerodynamic

I was outside throwing a H2O XPRESS™ 5.5" Hollow-Body Frog Lure, 1/2 oz but not very aerodynamic, I consistently hit 45-47 yds.

Rod: All Star 7' medium heavy fast

Reel: Lew's Speed Spool LFS SSG1SH

Line: Sufix Performance Braid 50#

Further North reply :

I fly fish a fair amount (and gear, not a purist).

I can consistently throw a 300 grain line with a subsurface fly 70 ft. But I seldom do that while fishing, only for practice.

Fly fishing taught me that I don't need distance to catch fish...with one exception: Fan casting over deeper water, with diving cranks being a particularly important subset of that. I need distance to get down to where the fish be...

Tennessee Boy reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 8:38 PM, Catt said:

I fish a lot of deep water structure at depths of 25', accuracy isn't to import, distance is to maintain bottom contact.

I agree. Here is map of a Kentucky Lake ledge. The yellow dot is a waypoint I dropped after catching a fish on a Carolina Rig. You can see from the map scale that you need to be able to cast 30 to 40 yards to fish the ledge properly.

billmac reply :

No offense taken. I'm not an experienced boat fisherman, but I have my first bass boat in my yard now and I'm eagerly awaiting ice-out, so hopefully I'll remedy my lack of deep water experience.

I'm a little curious though about the distances you are talking about. So you're fishing 25' deep, but what does that translate into for casting? It still doesn't seem like we're talking about an extremely long cast.

Scott F reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 7:26 AM, billmac said:

No offense taken. I'm not an experienced boat fisherman, but I have my first bass boat in my yard now and I'm eagerly awaiting ice-out, so hopefully I'll remedy my lack of deep water experience.

I'm a little curious though about the distances you are talking about. So you're fishing 25' deep, but what does that translate into for casting? It still doesn't seem like we're talking about an extremely long cast.

It takes a fair amount of cranking before a diving crankbait gets all the way down to its maximum depth. As you get it closer to you, it rises up. So, the farther you can cast, the longer it stays at it's maximum running depth.

dodgeguy reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 12:49 AM, Tennessee Boy said:

Some interesting responses here. For at least 20 years, I’ve been using Daiwa 105 HiLa’s for larger jigs and Carolina rigs. With a 3/4 Carolina rig I can throw all of the line out (about 110 yards). I have no need to cast that far fishing but sometimes I’ll do it just to get a nice tight clean spool of line. Last fall I started auditioning new reels to replace my old Diawas. I tried a Zillion SV TWS and was shocked to find that I could cast a 3/4 oz c-rig about 50 yards max. That’s with the spool very loose, the breaks on 1 or 2, and casting hard enough to give myself a hernia. With a 1/2 oz weight and a normal cast I could hit 35 yards easily. It’s like the breaks are designed to never let you cast over 50 yards no matter how hard you try. The reel worked okay pitching a jig but it failed the audition due to the 50 yard casting distance. From some of the responses here, I’m wondering if most modern reels are designed the same way.

Next up in my auditions is a Curado DC.

Buy a Lew's and outcast them all

WRB reply :

I often cast 7/16 oz jigs and DD22 deep diving crankbaits 50 yards /150' measured on a football field into 36" hula hoops. Long cast don't need to more accurate then hitting some within 3'-4'. I do this on a nearby football field occasionally to tune my reels. Standing on the raised bow of a bass boat you gain a few yards. I can cast beyond the 50 yd line, maybe 55-60 yards under ideal conditions but try to keep it to 40-50 yds the distance standard cast when fishing jigs or crankbaits during daytime.

At night I can get bit at 25-30 yards, no reason to cast further with jigs and worms, crankbaits about 40 yards to get it down deep enough and run longer.

We have the annual Fred Hall Sports Show with target casting pool set up tp 50 yards with floating 12" rings at 10 yard intervals. If you can put a casting plug into each ring you win a prize, usually a rod & reel combo. Always a fun event.

Casting distance has a lot to do more with the rod. 50 yards using MH or H jig rod is much harder then using a MH or H crankbait rod of the same length using the same reel and line.

Tom

Further North reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 7:26 AM, billmac said:

I'm a little curious though about the distances you are talking about. So you're fishing 25' deep, but what does that translate into for casting? It still doesn't seem like we're talking about an extremely long cast.

I'll echo that...if the fish are 25' deep...why would you have to be that far away from them?

My experience here, in gin clear water, is that I could be right over them and still catch bunches...but I assume you're dealing with some other variable I'm unfamiliar with?

On 4/4/2019 at 7:42 AM, Scott F said:

It takes a fair amount of cranking before a diving crankbait gets all the way down to its maximum depth. As you get it closer to you, it rises up. So, the farther you can cast, the longer it stays at it's maximum running depth.

Thanks Scott...that's what I was getting at in an earlier post.

That's why God and Shimano made DC reels...

On 4/4/2019 at 7:44 AM, dodgeguy said:

Buy a Lew's and outcast them all

But...Lew's are Abu Garcia...

Catt reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 8:31 AM, Further North said:

I'll echo that...if the fish are 25' deep...why would you have to be that far away from them?

My experience here, in gin clear water, is that I could be right over them and still catch bunches...but I assume you're dealing with some other variable I'm unfamiliar with?

I'm talking fish on the bottom, not suspended at 25'.

You can try getting directly over them but i wouldn't advise it!

WRB reply :

You can catch bass on top of them in 10' of water and it's done all the time flipping, pitching and drop shot.

How many giant bass are caught directly over them? Very few! Adult size bass get alarmed when a boat stops anywhere near them, giant bass simply move away and shut down any feeding activity. Bass under 4 lbs are not as wary and often keep feeding with boats nearby or over them. Casting longer distances increases your odds dramatically trying to catch big bass.

Tom

Further North reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 8:53 AM, Catt said:

I'm talking fish on the bottom, not suspended at 25'.

You can try getting directly over them but i wouldn't advise it!

Help me get my head 'round that...at 25'...they can't see me, or me, them.

Why would it matter? I'm asking because I have no idea.

I fish lakes that at 100+ feet deep with water so clear you can read the date on a dime on the bottom in 10' of water...and I can sit on top of fish at 25' and catch them all day with jig over the side of the boat, if I'm that bored...

I'm not being critical at all, just trying to learn.

QUAKEnSHAKE reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 7:44 AM, dodgeguy said:

Buy a Lew's and outcast them all

Lose he said

CrankFate reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 9:05 AM, WRB said:

Casting longer distances increases your odds dramatically trying to catch big bass.

Yes.

Catt reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 9:49 AM, Further North said:

Help me get my head 'round that...at 25'...they can't see me, or me, them.

They don't have to see you to know you're there.

There's plenty of guys that come from all over the country thinking the way you do & leave believing differently.

East Texas Lakes don't fish like anywhere else ????

Koz reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 12:15 PM, Glenn said:

I don't know. Bass fishing is about accuracy, not distance casting. So I never try to cast far.

To be fair, though, casting for distance can be an important part of bank fishing whether you can't navigate parts of the bank or you're trying to fish deeper water.

Further North reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 10:55 AM, Catt said:

They don't have to see you to know you're there.

There's plenty of guys that come from all over the country thinking the way you do & leave believing differently.

East Texas Reservoirs don't fish like anywhere else ????

I guess that's what I'm getting at...

What works in one part of the country...separated by as little as a couple of hours...is different from what works other places...but it gets presented as though it's rock solid fact everywhere, all the time.

Not by you...but I'd guess you know what I mean.

We tend to leave fishing pressure out as a criteria...among other things.

WRB reply :

What size bass are you catching in 25' of clear water sitting on top of them?

The bass feel your presence and easily can see you,the issue is those bass are conditioned to boat traffic and fishing pressure. We catch 1 3/4 to 2 1/4 lb 13" to 15" LMB sitting of on in 25' of water finesse fishing and maybe the occasional 2 1/2 to 3 lb bass if you stay long enough on a good spot during the summer through winter periods.

The big bass are rarely caught fishing vertical, make a long cast and your results may change.

Tom

Further North reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 12:25 PM, WRB said:

What size bass are you catching in 25' of clear water sitting on top of them?

The bass feel your presence and easily can see you,the issue is those bass are conditioned to boat traffic and fishing pressure. We catch 1 3/4 to 2 1/4 lb 13" to 15" LMB sitting of on in 25' of water finesse fishing and maybe the occasional 2 1/2 to 3 lb bass if you stay long enough on a good spot during the summer through winter periods.

The big bass are rarely caught fishing vertical, make a long cast and your results may change.

Tom

About the same, but smallies, mostly.

I appreciate the perspective, from the other end of the Mississippi-ish.

..and I don't like fishing vertical...that's what walleye fisherman do. If I get senile, or half my brain falls out...maybe I could learn to like fishing like that... ????

I actually have little patience for deep water fishing at all...if I have to do that, I'll go wade a river and catch those same smallies in current in 3 ft. of water...

Catt reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 11:00 AM, Further North said:

I guess that's what I'm getting at...

What works in one part of the country...separated by as little as a couple of hours...is different from what works other places...but it gets presented as though it's rock solid fact everywhere, all the time.

Not by you...but I'd guess you know what I mean.

We tend to leave fishing pressure out as a criteria...among other things.

We hear quite often "a bass is a bass" regardless of where it's at. I tend to agree with that but what changes it's behavior is which body of water they are in.

At 65 miles long the north end of Toledo Bend fishes totally different that the south end. The north end is shallower, constantly off colored while the south end is deeper, extremely clear. The middle section is different than both the north & south ends.

I listen intently to what @WRB says even though his out west, I also listen intently to what @A-Jay says even though he's a Yankee, & I look

for little nuances that may apply down that I've overlooked.

Is accuracy more important than distance?

Depends on the body of water & if you're bank fishing or boat fishing that body of water.

dodgeguy reply :

On 4/4/2019 at 8:31 AM, Further North said:

I'll echo that...if the fish are 25' deep...why would you have to be that far away from them?

My experience here, in gin clear water, is that I could be right over them and still catch bunches...but I assume you're dealing with some other variable I'm unfamiliar with?

Thanks Scott...that's what I was getting at in an earlier post.

That's why God and Shimano made DC reels...

But...Lew's are Abu Garcia...

No they are not. Different specs different parts.

Catt reply :

Casting distance just went down ????

That pine tree is 15' from the edge of the bayou & the water surface is usually around 6-8' below where it is now!

bagofdonuts reply :

Plenty of big bass are caught flipping and pitching. but you got to neak up on them, and it helps if you can get your bait in spots others don't. My experience has been that bass that are holding really tight to cover are easier to get close to. I don't know for sure, but seems the thick cover gives them a sense of security. Cruising bass are a much different deal, you better stay way back.

I think that's why pitching and flipping works best when other techniques are not working and visa versa. If bass are not holding tight to cover and you are trying to flip, you've already spooked them. If they are holding tight and your throwing something trying to get them to chase, they won't.

LxVE Bassin reply :

I can get a 1/2 ounce Chatterbait and rat-l-trap 50 plus yards. The only time I really bomb those baits is when I’m in a large grass flat trying to cover water. I coach youth football so I was able to verify this at a football field.

Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 6:10 PM, Catt said:

Even with my years of experience I still try to practice casting, pitching, & flipping evey day even if it's just for 15 minutes.

I have an obstacle course of sorts that has targets at various distances.

This is my extreme course!

Targets: Made from Styrofoam extrusion

36" diameter @ 75 yds

30" diameter @ 50 yds

24" diameter @ 40 yds

18" diameter @ 35 yds

12" diameter @ 30 yds

Catt, I’m not far behind you on accuracy, my scores I guess around

30’ diameter @ 50yds

18’ diameter @ 35 yds

12’ diameter @ 30 yds.

not bad, huh?

Log Catcher reply :

One thing nobody has mentioned is rod length. Most of them are fishing with 7' to 7'6" rods. I am using 6' rods for crankbaits. Due to bad knees I fish sitting down while every body else is standing up. My casts are mostly 50' to 75'. No way can I get the kind of casting distance everyone else is getting.

newyorktoiowa57 reply :

To me a 40 yard cast is long. On a 76mh frog rod I can cast over that, with shorter spinnerbait rods I throw 30 at the most.

Bankbeater reply :

If I'm on a flat and fan casting I can probably make 40 yds. If I'm fishing cover I'll try and get as close as possible before casting in a bait.

CrankFate reply :

I was throwing a 1/4oz dark sleeper a good 150-165’ yesterday, with noticeable wind. Im throwing hard enough to hear a ‘whoosh’ when I whip the rod hard enough to get that distance. Into the wind cast distance would be 50-75’

jbsoonerfan reply :

I wonder if some of these are measured or just a guess. LOL

Flatrock reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 2:50 AM, jbsoonerfan said:

I wonder if some of these are measured or just a guess. LOL

I'm thinking they're using the tape measure to judge their casting as they use to measure their fish..

new2BC4bass reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 2:52 AM, Flatrock said:

I'm thinking they're using the tape measure to judge their casting as they use to measure their fish..

Mine are guesses. I did decide to see how far I was casting a 1/8 oz. spinnerbait. I used to be able to pace off yards fairly accurately...as measure after pacing off. Bit older now, tho. Was getting 29-31 paces with the 1/8 oz. spinnerbait. 3/16 oz. Shad Raps do better. This was a few years ago when I was learning to cast lighter weights in hopes of eliminating my spinning gear. Spinning rods aren't going anywhere.

J.Vincent reply :

I’ve never actually measured out a cast. But the only instance when I find myself wishing I had more distance is with 14-20ft deep diving crankbaits

BaitFinesse reply :

I measure some of my casts in the yard. It's not very precise but my shoes are a foot long from heal to toe. What is interesting is that I cast off way more line than than where the bait actually lands. I'll spool the reel on the cast that holds 90+ yards of line and only cast the bait like 200 feet. This leads me to question the claims that a senko cannot fall vertically on a baitcast reel due to there not being enough slack line on the cast.

Mike L reply :

HS Football field.

Mike

CrankFate reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 2:50 AM, jbsoonerfan said:

I wonder if some of these are measured or just a guess. LOL

I don’t usually measure. But my cast distances are legit. I take my casting more serious than my fishing because I’m casting 100% of the time and catch fish less than 1% of the time. LOL

fishwizzard reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 4:08 AM, BaitFinesse said:

This leads me to question the claims that a senko cannot fall vertically on a baitcast reel due to there not being enough slack line on the cast.

I have never understood this line of thought, unless you are dropping the senko off the side of the boat with the bail open, most of the slack line is going to be laying on the water while the senko fall no matter what kind of reel you are using so long as you put a little loft on the cast.

Heartland reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 9:17 PM, Team9nine said:

They did some testing when they were gathering data for the Precision Casting book, and I believe they determined a ‘short’ cast was 70 ft and a long cast was 120’ based on averages and lure size, or pretty close to those numbers.

I once heard it said that KVD was one of the longest casters in the Pro's. He later stated that he felt like a long cast for him was no more that 50 yards.

Team9nine reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 9:11 PM, Heartland said:

I once heard it said that KVD was one of the longest casters in the Pro's. He later stated that he felt like a long cast for him was no more that 50 yards.

Yep - Skeet did a video a while back on casting distance and that was about the furthest he could get too, if I remember correctly (50-52 yds).

jbsoonerfan reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 9:11 PM, Heartland said:

I once heard it said that KVD was one of the longest casters in the Pro's. He later stated that he felt like a long cast for him was no more that 50 yards.

On 4/8/2019 at 9:31 PM, Team9nine said:

Yep - Skeet did a video a while back on casting distance and that was about the furthest he could get too, if I remember correctly (50-52 yds).

Well, as you can clearly see, KVD and Skeet just can't compete with some guys on here. This thread reminds me of the threads on an Archery forum where everyone talks about the groups they shoot at 40 yards.

Brad Reid reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 9:11 PM, Heartland said:

I once heard it said that KVD was one of the longest casters in the Pro's. He later stated that he felt like a long cast for him was no more that 50 yards.

KVD is an interesting subject. I'm sure since he is such a great power angler he's blending casting length with accuracy. I doubt he is leaning into casts all that much just for the sake of distance. But, what KVD can do is make a ton of casts to cover a ton of water. He is angling's version of a bump stock. Even as he gets a bit older, he can sure cover a ton of water with rapid casting.

And, when new rules allowed for longer rods? My mind went immediately to pro anglers like KVD thinking that on lakes where it'd be advantageous fishing open water, more power fishing oriented, that they'd adopt the longer rods for certain presentations.

Not sure I have seen this yet. Could be they are still trying to "dial in" the proper rod, getting the metrics all worked out. Additional rod length would have to be accompanied by the right power and action, matched to the right lure weights, dial in for differences setting a hook on a bass that is 75 yards away from the angler. Decisions, decisions.

Does anyone know if we've seen any pro bass anglers adopt anything close to the new 10 footers now allowed by B.A.S.S. beginning in 2017?

Brad

Bluebasser86 reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 9:45 PM, jbsoonerfan said:

Well, as you can clearly see, KVD and Skeet just can't compete with some guys on here. This thread reminds me of the threads on an Archery forum where everyone talks about the groups they shoot at 40 yards.

Nobody fibs on a fishing forum ????

30-40 yards is a long ways to cast a bait.

jbsoonerfan reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 12:14 PM, rippin-lips said:

30-40 yards consistently. Depends on the bait. A 3/8oz spinnerbait isn’t going to go as far as a 5” weightless senko. Typically putting the bait in the right spot pays off more than just firing it out there as far as you can.

On 4/3/2019 at 12:21 PM, Bluebasser86 said:

Accurately, 30 yards, maybe out to 40 if I'm flinging a trap or something heavy and the wind isn't howling. Long distance casting isn't often a factor in my fishing though.

On 4/3/2019 at 6:50 PM, LionHeart said:

There are plenty times IMO when distance matters. Especially when fishing from the bank. I'd say 40 yards is a pretty good ways for most lures. Something like a 1/2 oz chatter bait or lipless, a bit closer to 50. 50 yards is quite a long cast.

What Catt said above, that's pretty awesome. I've got a ways to go before getting close to those numbers in distance or accuracy.

On 4/3/2019 at 8:10 PM, new2BC4bass said:

Agree 100%. Catt's distance and accuracy requirements are awesome. I also am a bank fisherman when home. When visiting Florida I still am looking for distance most of the time even tho fishing from a Gheenee due to boat placement. My casting is more accurate at long distance than at short because that is where I am casting the vast majority of the time. My accuracy practice is casting to leaves, foam cups, plastic water bottles, etc. that are floating by on the river. I even manage to hit a target occasionally.

EDIT: I'd also agree with Lionheart about casting distance. I have made longer than 50 yards under the right circumstances, but that is not something I can accomplish on a regular basis.

On 4/3/2019 at 8:41 PM, billmac said:

I would say 30-40 yards if I had to, but I'm a big believer in short casts. I would rather move to my target than stay put and cast a long way to it.

On 4/6/2019 at 1:02 AM, LxVE Bassin said:

I can get a 1/2 ounce Chatterbait and rat-l-trap 50 plus yards. The only time I really bomb those baits is when I’m in a large grass flat trying to cover water. I coach youth football so I was able to verify this at a football field.

On 4/7/2019 at 10:58 AM, newyorktoiowa57 said:

To me a 40 yard cast is long. On a 76mh frog rod I can cast over that, with shorter spinnerbait rods I throw 30 at the most.

A lot of solid information in these posts.

Catt reply :

From the original post dated April 14, 2008

Bait Casting Contest

Rules

Range: 5 targets set up on a football field at various angle from the deck; the field faces north & south

Deck: 24 tall x 4' x 4'

Tackle: Participants choice

Targets: Made from Styrofoam extrusion

Each participant is allowed 2 cast at each target

Points are only given for cast landing inside the target

Cast must be made at 30-40 yards; after that any combination of 4 casts can be used

Tie breaker: 1 cast @ the 75 yd target

Judge will be at each target to verify score

3' diameter @ 75 yds: 25 points

30" diameter @ 50 yds: 20 points

24" diameter @ 40 yds: 15 points

18 diameter @ 35 yds: 10 points

12 diameter @ 30 yds: 5 points

Sounds easy? Add wind, rain, back lashes, brain farts & artificial plants of various heights arranged around the target

My highest score is 135 points; 60 points for the 30-40 yd targets, 50 points for the 75 yd target & 25 for the tie-breaker. My highest percentage at the 75 yd target is 30% (3 of 10).

Get a couple buddies, set up the range and give it a try .

onenutinthewater reply :

Depends on who you ask- I say I can cast about 150', my wife would tell you a lot shorter...........

Tennessee Boy reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 9:52 PM, Bluebasser86 said:

30-40 yards is a long ways to cast a bait.

There are a lot of distances posted here without stating what’s being thrown. It is not hard to cast a heavy weight a long distance with the right equipment. Looks like the record is over 300 yards. https://www.outdoorlife.com/record-casts

BaitFinesse reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 9:05 PM, fishwizzard said:

I have never understood this line of thought, unless you are dropping the senko off the side of the boat with the bail open, most of the slack line is going to be laying on the water while the senko fall no matter what kind of reel you are using so long as you put a little loft on the cast.

I'm guessing the idea is that a baitcast reel has spool tension set for a slow drop and brakes that are keeping the line taut on the cast. I don't experience it. I cast off lots of extra line on the cast with even my most aggressively braked reels. I don't even have to thumb the spool at all even when the bait lands on the ground with my Tatula SV and there is still more line dispensed than where the bait lands.

CrankFate reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 9:11 PM, Heartland said:

I once heard it said that KVD was one of the longest casters in the Pro's. He later stated that he felt like a long cast for him was no more that 50 yards.

On 4/8/2019 at 9:45 PM, jbsoonerfan said:

Well, as you can clearly see, KVD and Skeet just can't compete with some guys on here. This thread reminds me of the threads on an Archery forum where everyone talks about the groups they shoot at 40 yards.

40-50 yards is worse than the majority of youtubers casting over 1/4 oz. There are plenty of videos of guys like The Reel Test casting around 200’ on the field just by snappping the rod down from directly overhead. That cast is not at all maximized for distance. If he is getting 150-200’ that way (like him or not, I’m sure he is, see video below) a full over the shoulder cast will get more distance. Real world casting is usually farther than the field because it starts from higher ground above water level.

Claims of 40-50 yards as a max are bogus.

You’re adding a good 10-20 yards on the water to any field numbers. That would explain @Catt saying he hit a 75 yard target.

https://youtu.be/cZj0Wrtlmrk

Further North reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 9:11 PM, Heartland said:

I once heard it said that KVD was one of the longest casters in the Pro's. He later stated that he felt like a long cast for him was no more that 50 yards.

That's a fair distance.

For you folks that live in the city, assuming normal 1/4 acre lots, that's standing on your lot line and casting almost all the way to the far edge of your neighbor's lot...

On 4/9/2019 at 12:12 AM, Tennessee Boy said:

There are a lot of distances posted here without stating what’s being thrown. It is not hard to cast a heavy weight a long distance with the right equipment. Looks like the record is over 300 yards. https://www.outdoorlife.com/record-casts

Want to really be impressed, check out the fly casting records:

http://www.americancastingassoc.org/assoc-membership/national-records/fly-dist.html

Heartland reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 2:42 AM, CrankFate said:

You’re adding a good 10-20 yards on the water to any field numbers. That would explain @Catt saying he hit a 75 yard target.

https://youtu.be/cZj0Wrtlmrk

Just a couple of thoughts, 75 yards is 225 ft, hitting a target..... What method did you use to arrive at the numbers in the quoted statement?

new2BC4bass reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 2:42 AM, CrankFate said:

You’re adding a good 10-20 yards on the water to any field numbers. That would explain @Catt saying he hit a 75 yard target.

Apparently you aren't fully reading Catt's posts. I don't see where you are getting the idea his practicing is at water targets. The last post even says they are set on a football field with a judge standing at each target. Sounds to me like he is talking about formal competitions. Just because you and I can't hit a 75 yard target doesn't mean no one else can.

Flatrock reply :

I'm impressed, 4 pages on what I thought was silly question.. However with all the claims being made, some questionable.. One has to ask, what are you casting and what reel and line are you using..?

I say/ask this cause I can throw a practice 3/8oz weight on my Lews and be fairly accurate on a calm day, then tie onto a 3/8oz rattle trap and get nowhere near the distance on a breezy day. Also wouldn't the design of the reel have a lot to do with the ability to cast further ? I mean your higher end reels have better mechanics allowing further casting without fear of back lashing where as you lower ends models just won't allow it. So in all fairness, I can see further distance with a 1/2oz over a 3/8oz, but at the same time I can see better performance with a higher quality reel... Am I making sense here ?

redmeansdistortion reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 3:51 AM, Flatrock said:

Also wouldn't the design of the reel have a lot to do with the ability to cast further ? I mean your higher end reels have better mechanics allowing further casting without fear of back lashing where as you lower ends models just won't allow it.

The big determining factor in my opinion, is synchronized vs non synchronized level wind. A non synchronized, or disengaging level wind as it's also called, will outcast one with a sychronized level wind and will also be better suited to throwing lighter baits. A synchronized level wind always moves; during casting, during retrieval, or when a fish is pulling drag. With disengaging, the level wind only moves during the retrieve and stays stationary during a cast. There is less moving parts when casting, and therefor less mass to move which results in increased distance. There aren't many synchronized level wind reels on the market now aside from the Abu Ambassadeur. Those reels really struggle throwing anything under 1/2oz for the uninitiated. I can throw 1/4oz baits with my 4000 sized reels, but I really have to be on top of my thumb game to do such things. My comment is more a generalization as there are some reels with a synchronized level wind that can really put it out there, like the Abu 1500C and 2500C for instance.

Tennessee Boy reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 3:51 AM, Flatrock said:

So in all fairness, I can see further distance with a 1/2oz over a 3/8oz, but at the same time I can see better performance with a higher quality reel... Am I making sense here ?

Like I said in my earlier post, I can get more than twice the distance with my 20+ year old Diawa than I can with a new Diawa Zillion on identical rods, line and weight. I think the Zillion is designed to limit backlash at the expense of casting distance. The Zillion’s brakes drive me crazy casting a heavy Carolina rig but are fine pitching a jig. It’s clearly the brakes that are the problem. It may not be the quality of the reel that determines casting distance but the way it’s designed.

BaitFinesse reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 4:14 AM, Tennessee Boy said:

Like I said in my earlier post, I can get more than twice the distance with my 20+ year old Diawa than I can with a new Diawa Zillion on identical rods, line and weight. I think the Zillion is designed to limit backlash at the expense of casting distance. The Zillion’s brakes drive me crazy casting a heavy Carolina rig but are fine pitching a jig. It’s clearly the brakes that are the problem. It may not be the quality of the reel that determines casting distance but the way it’s designed.

Have you tried loosening the spool tension to the point of having a tiny bit of side to side play? The Zillion SV TW spool is considered a pretty good caster. It can outcast the Tatula SV and I can cast all the 50# braid off my Tatula SV with a Terminator Walking Frog.

You also might want to remove the spool and make sure the spool inductor extends and retracts freely and that it does not stick in the extended position. Also verify that the ring magnet turns when the mag dial is turned and that the magnet hasn't become unglued from the side plate. Worse case scenario you can send it into the Tackle Trap for repair.

Tennessee Boy reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 4:47 AM, BaitFinesse said:

Have you tried loosening the spool tension to the point of having a tiny bit of side to side play? The Zillion SV TW spool is considered a pretty good caster. It can outcast the Tatula SV and I can cast all the 50# braid off my Tatula SV with a Terminator Walking Frog.

You also might want to remove the spool and make sure the spool inductor extends and retracts freely and that it does not stick in the extended position. Also verify that the ring magnet turns when the mag dial is turned and that the magnet hasn't become unglued from the side plate. Worse case scenario you can send it into the Tackle Trap for repair.

I have the spool tension extremely loose. I can tell that changing the brakes does affect the cast. I haven’t checked the other things you mentioned. I’ve decided the reel is not for me and have moved on.

CrankFate reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 4:14 AM, Tennessee Boy said:

Like I said in my earlier post, I can get more than twice the distance with my 20+ year old Diawa than I can with a new Diawa Zillion on identical rods, line and weight. I think the Zillion is designed to limit backlash at the expense of casting distance. The Zillion’s brakes drive me crazy casting a heavy Carolina rig but are fine pitching a jig. It’s clearly the brakes that are the problem. It may not be the quality of the reel that determines casting distance but the way it’s designed.

Everything is !!! Especially with magnets !!!

Catt reply :

I know I'm a dumb Coonass so maybe someone can show me where Van Dam or Reese stated 50 yds was as far as they could possibly cast.

They both implied 50 yds under normal fishing conditions is considered a long cast which happens to be what I said (I think it was on page 2).

I also stated my best ever at 75 yds was 3 out of 10 cast but 1 out of 10 is normal.

We practice this course running through it 3 or 4 times a day for a couple weeks prior to competition. 80% of the time we concentrate on the short course (30-40) because if it's windy you'll never need the 50-75 yd range.

I've also use the short course with large targets and shorter distances to teach bait casting to newbie's. It's cheap, easy to setup and they can practice daily.

One of our archery buddies came up with the idea ????

QUAKEnSHAKE reply :

On 4/8/2019 at 9:31 PM, Team9nine said:

Yep - Skeet did a video a while back on casting distance and that was about the furthest he could get too, if I remember correctly (50-52 yds).

If its the one on a grass field he was throwing 1 oz crankbait 62 yards.

This thread post here

jbsoonerfan reply :

@Catt I believe you. But 110 yards is a stretch. I would guess my best cast is 50 yards. I thought the thread was about casting distance with normal bass fishing gear and now we have world record casts posted.

PhishLI reply :

Watch the 1st 6 minutes if you dare. BTW, because he has been mentioned in this thread, The Reel Test uses 6'8" medium rods, primarily, which limits his distance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm4XyKf9J3U

Further North reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 9:59 AM, Catt said:

I know I'm a dumb Coonass so maybe someone can show me where Van Dam or Reese stated 50 yds was as far as they could possibly cast.

They both implied 50 yds under normal fishing conditions is considered a long cast which happens to be what I said (I think it was on page 2).

I also stated my best ever at 75 yds was 3 out of 10 cast but 1 out of 10 is normal.

We practice this course running through it 3 or 4 times a day for a couple weeks prior to competition. 80% of the time we concentrate on the short course (30-40) because if it's windy you'll never need the 50-75 yd range.

I've also use the short course with large targets and shorter distances to teach bait casting to newbie's. It's cheap, easy to setup and they can practice daily.

One of our archery buddies came up with the idea ????

Don't be usin' logic and objective evaluation on an emotional subject.

People can't handle that...

Further North reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 10:39 AM, PhishLI said:

Watch the 1st 6 minutes if you dare. BTW, because he has been mentioned in this thread, The Reel Test uses 6'8" medium rods, primarily, which limits his distance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm4XyKf9J3U

Cheese and rice...I had a 1974 Plymouth Duster with a three speed slushbox and a 225 CI POS engine that sounded better that that...

Just sayin'...

Heartland reply :

Back in 82, I could cast a crankbait a 1/4 mile. How much you want to bet I can cast a crankbait over those mountains.

Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers.

Catt reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 10:28 AM, jbsoonerfan said:

@Catt I believe you. But 110 yards is a stretch

I miss something? ????

Team9nine reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 10:27 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

If its the one on a grass field he was throwing 1 oz crankbait 62 yards.

This thread post here

I was close knew the video had been taken down, and I didn’t see the actual distance mentioned in the thread, but the two’s match up with what I remembered so we’ll go with it ????

jbsoonerfan reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 6:32 PM, Catt said:

I miss something? ????

You didn't claim to cast 110 yards, someone else did. I'm trying real hard to stay out of trouble though. LOL

Catt reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 8:33 PM, jbsoonerfan said:

You didn't claim to cast 110 yards, someone else did. I'm trying real hard to stay out of trouble though. LOL

You're a Sooners fan how ya gonna stay out trouble!

jbsoonerfan reply :

On 4/9/2019 at 8:42 PM, Catt said:

You're a Sooners fan how ya gonna stay out trouble!

It follows me.

Tennessee Boy reply :

Let me say this about my 110 yard casting distance claim. I didn't measure the cast, I just base the distance on an estimate of the amount of line on the reel. I'm an old guy and rest assured, if I can do it you probably could to using the reel I was using. What you are throwing makes a huge difference. It's not hard to throw all the line out on my old Diawas with 3/4 egg sinker. I cannot get anywhere close to that distance with a 3/4 rattle trap. THE POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE IS THIS. I CAN CAST TWICE AS FAR WITH MY LONGEST CASTING REEL AS I CAN WITH MY SHORTEST CASTING REEL. THE REEL YOU ARE USING MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. USING A MODERN REEL WITH ALL THE BRAKING MAY GREATLY LIMIT YOUR CASTING DISTANCE. IF YOU CAN ONLY CAST 50 YARDS, IT MAY BE YOUR REEL NOT YOU. ????

Jleebesaw reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 11:36 PM, Catt said:

How would you fish structure in 25' of water where there's no specific target other that the structure itself?

That's something I do a lot of. I drop a marker bouy and then cast by it from a little way off. Maybe 30 or 40 feet away. Thats if I'm using a jig, tube, or something like that. Sometimes I'll literally get right on top of it and use a dropshot or jigging spoon. I can watch it on my fish finder doing it that way.

Catt reply :

@Tennessee Boy I absolutely agree older reels will undoubtedly out cast newer reels!

In the competition listed above I'm using a Calcutta 100A (2 bearing + 1 bushing) spooled with Berkley Big Game 15# test, a 1/4 oz bullet weight, 3/0 straight shank hook, & a 7 1/2" worm. My rod is a Shimano Crucial 6' 10" MH Extra fast. Once I move up to 50-75 yds it's 1/2 to 3/4 oz bullet weight.

Shimano listed line capacity is 110 yds of 14# monofilament on this reel. With a 3/4 oz Johnson Silver Minnow & an Uncle Josh #11 Pork Frog on an 8' rod I can almost spool it. How much line is left I don't know but I can see the spool beneath the line.

The Johnson spoon will catch air and sail on you so forget accuracy!

Mobasser reply :

My old 5500c will cast furthur than any other reel.I have.

Heartland reply :

On 4/3/2019 at 11:36 PM, Catt said:

How would you fish structure in 25' of water where there's no specific target other that the structure itself?

Troll it

Flatrock reply :

I have a even better claim... I have a guy that wants to give me money for my Fishdrops BC reel, wants it badly for some strange reason.

Further North reply :

On 4/10/2019 at 1:18 AM, Heartland said:

Troll it

If I have to troll to catch fish, I'll not fish.

It's a me thing, but I cannot stand trolling. I don't care how effective it is. I feel the same about jigging over the side of the boat. I don't need to catch fish enough to do either.

On 4/10/2019 at 3:30 AM, Flatrock said:

I have a even better claim... I have a guy that wants to give me money for my Fishdrops BC reel, wants it badly for some strange reason.

He probably wants to see if he can throw it 100 yards. ????

Catt reply :

On 4/10/2019 at 6:58 AM, Further North said:

If I have to troll to catch fish, I'll not fish.

It's a me thing, but I cannot stand trolling. I don't care how effective it is. I feel the same about jigging over the side of the boat. I don't need to catch fish enough to do either

Aint done either since the 70s ????

Further North reply :

On 4/10/2019 at 10:02 AM, Catt said:

Aint done either since the 70s ????

I wish I could say that...

I went on a 10 day Canadian walleye trip with some friends a fe years back...all they did was jig over the side of the boat...I was ready to throw myself on a sword by the end of the 2nd day...

I haven't trolled in decades, other than hanging a a rig off the side as I motor between spots, and won't. I admire the dedication of folks who do it...but I can't stand the boredom of driving round dragging lines...

Flatrock reply :

On 4/10/2019 at 6:58 AM, Further North said:

If I have to troll to catch fish, I'll not fish.

It's a me thing, but I cannot stand trolling. I don't care how effective it is. I feel the same about jigging over the side of the boat. I don't need to catch fish enough to do either.

He probably wants to see if he can throw it 100 yards. ????

I bet he could throw that reel like a football a hundred yards... LOL

Real nice guy, we even exchanged numbers and plan on getting together for some fishing. He bought a boat this yr like myself and is trying to figure out how to catch some fish... We can get skunked together

redmeansdistortion reply :

On 4/10/2019 at 10:07 AM, Further North said:

I wish I could say that...

I went on a 10 day Canadian walleye trip with some friends a fe years back...all they did was jig over the side of the boat...I was ready to throw myself on a sword by the end of the 2nd day...

I haven't trolled in decades, other than hanging a a rig off the side as I motor between spots, and won't. I admire the dedication of folks who do it...but I can't stand the boredom of driving round dragging lines...

I don't see the sportiness in trolling. Sure it's effective, but like you said, boring. Half the fun of fishing is casting and working your bait. The other half is fighting and landing a fish. I've been on trips where we trolled exclusively. Some of them I didn't catch any fish but ended up sitting around the boat drinking beer and eating sandwiches. I could've done that on my back patio.

Team9nine reply :

Enjoy trolling - do it frequently. If you’re just dragging baits through the water, you’re doing it wrong ???? Much tougher to be a good troller than a good caster.

GreenPig reply :

I look forward to winter so I can vertical spoon fish.

Further North reply :

On 4/10/2019 at 10:34 PM, redmeansdistortion said:

I don't see the sportiness in trolling. Sure it's effective, but like you said, boring. Half the fun of fishing is casting and working your bait. The other half is fighting and landing a fish. I've been on trips where we trolled exclusively. Some of them I didn't catch any fish but ended up sitting around the boat drinking beer and eating sandwiches. I could've done that on my back patio.

Exactly.

...I just don't need to catch fish bad enough to troll...

On 4/10/2019 at 10:43 PM, Team9nine said:

Enjoy trolling - do it frequently. If you’re just dragging baits through the water, you’re doing it wrong ???? Much tougher to be a good troller than a good caster.

Mmmmm...I've done both; I've trolled with people who are acknowledged experts.

It still bored me to the edge of sanity.

...and I don't buy that it's tougher. Seems like a very subjective evaluation.

...my problem with trolling is that it bores me. I love that other people like it. I have the same issue with professional sports...they also bore me. It's my problem, not theirs.

CrankFate reply :

Rest assured today I was averaging less than 100’

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