Gliss Monotex Line ~ A Brief Review 2024
A-Jay reply :
Spent 8 hours on the water today fishing the Gliss 40 lb green; first time with it.
Threw a 3/8 oz SK Rage Blade with a Lake Fork Boot Tail Live Magic Shad trailer - All Day.
Had to, they kept biting it.
I opted for a short section of wire rather than the usual mono as we were fishing in Pikeasaurus land. Caught plenty of Bass & Pike. Without getting ahead of myself – this line exceeded my expectations.
Underlined below are the advertised characteristic of the line and the reasons for my purchase. Below each are my opinions in regard to these claims. Please keep in mind this was only after one day – but it’s not bad.
Thin & Slick composition provides incredible casting distance.
I Completely Agree ! Super thin for 40lb and casting distance was great.
Zero stretch provides ultimate sensitivity.
I Completely agree again ~ Will not say The Most sensitive ever – but definitely able to feel everything I wanted to; how & if the bait was working correctly or fouled with weed and of course strike detection was killer. Remember this was a moving bait.
Thinner than braid with comparable strength for superior management.
Already covered the diameter deal and the Management aspects were very good – trouble free. At least for today; which was pretty windy & quite gusty. Keep in mind that blade bait / trailer combo cast fairly well anyway but even still I was impressed.
Zero line twist makes Gliss more managable on spinning reel applications.
Have not spooled up a spinning reel yet – but I will be soon enough – with a smaller class Gliss line.
Soft form provides increased castability and distance.
Already covered.
Additional comments; regardless of how it’s advertised or what “class of line’ this product is placed in, to me it’s a braid. But it just may be the best casting & most manageable braid I’ve fished.
Questions yet to be answered or addressed:
What is the Abrasion resistance like ? Don't know - this lake is all soft vegetation, but I'd expect it to be like most braids - OK on wood but poor on rock or anything similar.
How long does it last ? At least one day . . . . btw - there was NO COLOR loss at all during the spooling process - meaning my hands & reel didn't turn green.
As for comparing it to nylon, I will say there is not a comparison. For today, on this lake, Gliss was Better in every way, shape, form & fashion. I will be fishing it next time in a place with no Pike (only beast SMB) so I’ll be back to using a mono leader. And we’ll see how that goes. I’m expecting the goodness to continue.
Hope this helps
A-Jay
MarkH024 reply :
Nice review Ajay. Thanks for the input.
A-Jay reply :
On 7/23/2015 at 6:18 AM, MarkH024 said:Nice review Ajay. Thanks for the input.
Thanks & You're Welcome.
Sweet Avatar btw . . .
A-Jay
MarkH024 reply :
What knot were you using?
Penguino reply :
On 7/23/2015 at 6:34 AM, MarkH024 said:What knot were you using?
Yeah, how does it hold knots compared to nanofil or fireline?
Darren. reply :
Nice, A-Jay.
Have you used 8-strand braid like PP SS8?
And if so, comparison?
Todd2 reply :
My bait monkey thanks you.
A-Jay reply :
My Braids of choice are the 832 & PP - this is a little different in that it's thinner, more manageable & casts further. I've also used Daiwa Samurai Braided Line. Gliss is similar in diameter and smoothness but not as limp as the Samurai making the gliss more manageable.
As for the knot used - I use a Uni-knot almost exclusively... for EVERYTHING. This line ties great and that knot works perfectly. It's also the recommended knot on the Line's packaging.
And I said "almost exclusively" because I came up with my own braid to leader knot last year and that works well too. But that's a story for another time.
Something else I thought of just now. I can not speak as to this lines ability to absorb serious & sudden short line shock - like a big hook set while flipping or even pitching. I was using a composite rod all day there was none of that. Also this "40 lb" test Gliss is really thin and I still prefer something beefier for heavy hand to hand combat.
A-Jay
Preytorien reply :
Well, I just bought some of the "24lb" line. Seems that it'd be pretty thin, good for finesse plastics maybe.
We'll see!
A-Jay reply :
On 7/23/2015 at 9:22 PM, Preytorien said:Well, I just bought some of the "24lb" line. Seems that it'd be pretty thin, good for finesse plastics maybe.
We'll see!
Do you think that size is right for a spinning reel application or would the next size down be a better choice?
A-Jay
Preytorien reply :
On 7/23/2015 at 9:26 PM, A-Jay said:Do you think that size is right for a spinning reel application or would the next size down be a better choice?
A-Jay
Well, I found a few different places that listed the diameters, but Tackle Warehouse - probably pretty accurate, shows 24lb Gliss being .007in, and Sufix 832 10lb, (my current line on this reel) is shown as a diameter of .008in, so it's a tad bit smaller with a higher rated breaking strength. Are my numbers off?
Gliss - http://www.***.com/Gliss_Supersmooth_Monotex_Line/descpage-GSM.html
832 - http://www.***.com/Sufix_832_Braid_Lo-Vis_Green/descpage-S83B.html
A-Jay reply :
On 7/23/2015 at 9:33 PM, Preytorien said:Well, I found a few different places that listed the diameters, but Tackle Warehouse - probably pretty accurate, shows 24lb Gliss being .007in, and Sufix 832 10lb, (my current line on this reel) is shown as a diameter of .008in, so it's a tad bit smaller with a higher rated breaking strength. Are my numbers off?
Gliss - http://www.***.com/Gliss_Supersmooth_Monotex_Line/descpage-GSM.html
832 - http://www.***.com/Sufix_832_Braid_Lo-Vis_Green/descpage-S83B.html
Looks about right to me too.
I'm thinking that's what I'll be going with right there.
Thanks
A-Jay
Preytorien reply :
If it's truly 24 breaking strength, or even a bit below that, and the line performs well, then it might be a game-changer. I'd be using it mostly as a finesse line and in a small river here for smallmouth, this could be a new go-to line for me.
That'd make this year a year of change for me as I've been making a slow transition to Maxcuatro braid (great stuff)
A-Jay reply :
On 7/23/2015 at 10:19 PM, Preytorien said:If it's truly 24 breaking strength, or even a bit below that, and the line performs well, then it might be a game-changer. I'd be using it mostly as a finesse line and in a small river here for smallmouth, this could be a new go-to line for me.
That'd make this year a year of change for me as I've been making a slow transition to Maxcuatro braid (great stuff)
I hear that - I like what I've seen so far.
And when I'm using it in a finesse spinning application, I'll always be using a mono leader that's never close to even 15 lb test so I'd expect the leader or knot to fail well before the braid main line.
A-Jay
Preytorien reply :
A-Jay gave his excellent in-depth review which prompted me to go ahead, bite the bullet and try Gliss for myself. While my review probably won't be as thorough, and I'm probably not fishing the same way A-Jay would be, I'll offer my insights to it as well.
A few points first....
1. You'll notice the spool is very small, like a small sample of Trilene. But it's because the line is so thin. Besides, I think the smaller spool may help alleviate the line springing off the spool.
2. The line feels like nice waxy dental floss. At first when spooling I thought I'd have white wax all over my fingers, but it didn't budge. I don't think it's so much a coating as just how the line inherently feels
3. When you cast/retrieve, there's almost no sound. This is a nice alternative coming from every reel in my arsenal being either straight braid or braid + leader. This stuff is silent.
As for on the water....
1. The casting distance is unbelievable. Even weightless soft plastics launch with ease. I didn't try cranks or jigs since this was a grass heavy lake and I was using a spinning/finesse setup.
2. The sensitivity is on par with the best of braids. I use exlusively Sufix 832 and PP Maxcuatro. This is every bit as sensitive.
3. There truly is little/no stretch. Being not a braid I was skeptical of this claim but as the evening wore on, more and more characteristics of this line felt like braid, even though it wasn't truly braid.
4. Line manageability was right up there with braid. I fished in about 10-12mph wind all night, and no twist knots or tangles of any kind. It performed here much better than I had hoped.
I bought the 24lb Gliss, in a 150yd spool in Translucent. It looks white on the reel. Matched my Stradic nicely. I pulled in several very nice 3+lb fish through grass and never had a break off, knot slip (see below), or fray. I know on other forums they list fraying as a negative, and to be honest I'm not fishing this over mussel beds or rocks, mostly in grass lakes. So I noticed no fray.
One thing, and this is CRITICAL. I almost always use a San Diego Jam knot or Palomar knot. On this line you MUST use a Palomar, or more recommended a Double Palomar. The line is slick feeling, and I lost 2 lures (cheap ones thank goodness) due to my SDJ simply slipping out. I used a Double Palomar the rest of the evening....not a hint of slip. USE A PALOMAR.
I'm sure A-Jay can add some stuff to all this.
Overall, I'm very very impressed. It does everything it claims to do, and it's not very expensive (15). Buy some, give it a try, and let us know.
Master Bait'r reply :
The bait monkey hath spoken... In German no less!
A-Jay reply :
On 7/28/2015 at 10:26 AM, Preytorien said:A-Jay gave his excellent in-depth review which prompted me to go ahead, bite the bullet and try Gliss for myself. While my review probably won't be as thorough, and I'm probably not fishing the same way A-Jay would be, I'll offer my insights to it as well.
A few points first....
1. You'll notice the spool is very small, like a small sample of Trilene. But it's because the line is so thin. Besides, I think the smaller spool may help alleviate the line springing off the spool.
2. The line feels like nice waxy dental floss. At first when spooling I thought I'd have white wax all over my fingers, but it didn't budge. I don't think it's so much a coating as just how the line inherently feels
3. When you cast/retrieve, there's almost no sound. This is a nice alternative coming from every reel in my arsenal being either straight braid or braid + leader. This stuff is silent.
As for on the water....
1. The casting distance is unbelievable. Even weightless soft plastics launch with ease. I didn't try cranks or jigs since this was a grass heavy lake and I was using a spinning/finesse setup.
2. The sensitivity is on par with the best of braids. I use exlusively Sufix 832 and PP Maxcuatro. This is every bit as sensitive.
3. There truly is little/no stretch. Being not a braid I was skeptical of this claim but as the evening wore on, more and more characteristics of this line felt like braid, even though it wasn't truly braid.
4. Line manageability was right up there with braid. I fished in about 10-12mph wind all night, and no twist knots or tangles of any kind. It performed here much better than I had hoped.
I bought the 24lb Gliss, in a 150yd spool in Translucent. It looks white on the reel. Matched my Stradic nicely. I pulled in several very nice 3+lb fish through grass and never had a break off, knot slip (see below), or fray. I know on other forums they list fraying as a negative, and to be honest I'm not fishing this over mussel beds or rocks, mostly in grass lakes. So I noticed no fray.
One thing, and this is CRITICAL. I almost always use a San Diego Jam knot or Palomar knot. On this line you MUST use a Palomar, or more recommended a Double Palomar. The line is slick feeling, and I lost 2 lures (cheap ones thank goodness) due to my SDJ simply slipping out. I used a Double Palomar the rest of the evening....not a hint of slip. USE A PALOMAR.
I'm sure A-Jay can add some stuff to all this.
Overall, I'm very very impressed. It does everything it claims to do, and it's not very expensive (15). Buy some, give it a try, and let us know.
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Nothing that I can or need add to that post - covers everything I'd want to know before purchasing Gliss and you've made a strong case too. Makes me want to buy & try it.
Wait - I already did. . . . . .
Nice job
A-Jay
OkobojiEagle reply :
Diameter claims have been hard to nail down... I'd like to know how the Gliss 8lb and 12lb line compares to original fused Fireline in 6lb and 10lb. Nanofil's biggest fault is its lack of shock strength... how is the shock strength of the smaller diameter Gliss lines?
oe
A-Jay reply :
On 7/28/2015 at 8:15 PM, OkobojiEagle said:Diameter claims have been hard to nail down... I'd like to know how the Gliss 8lb and 12lb line compares to original fused Fireline in 6lb and 10lb. Nanofil's biggest fault is its lack of shock strength... how is the shock strength of the smaller diameter Gliss lines?
oe
The only resemblance Gliss has with the lines mentioned above is that it's not Nylon.
I've used nanofil & fireline. Both had a few strong & many weak points in my mind.
Gliss has all the strong points and so far, very few, if any, of the weak.
I've only used the "40lb" Gliss - so I can not address how the smaller tests compare.
But what I can tell you is that the diameter is about HALF of what standard and most current braids are.
As mentioned, the manageability is very good, the casting is very good but that super small diameter may not be the best for flipping the slop. Also the "Advantage" of long casts may not be needed for up-close presentations.
I'm not claiming that this is the line to end all lines, but I've been sorely disappointed by many I've tried and this one is NOT on that list.
I ordered a few spools of the smaller diameter Gliss to try out in spinning gear applications, we'll see how that goes. Expecting good things.
A-Jay
WPCfishing reply :
I used the 40 yesterday on a bait caster. The uni knot with 7 wraps holds well.
fishindad reply :
A big shout out to A-Jay and Preytorian for the detailed reviews of this new line. I also use 832 (and uni to uni) almost exclusively so I hope my results will be similar. Will order some when I get home from work today!
Preytorien reply :
On 7/28/2015 at 9:22 PM, WPCfishing said:I used the 40 yesterday on a bait caster. The uni knot with 7 wraps holds well.
I would expect a larger diameter to do better with alternative knots. But for the 24lb I've been using, it seems knots that wrap around themselves are prone to slippage.
From the packaging I have, the diameters listed on TW are accurate. The line is VERY thin. I've never used Fireline or Nanofil, but this is much thinner than comparable braid.
A-Jay you're going to like this on spinning....I'm confident.
A couple things I still want to test are:
1. Actual breaking strength. The weights I use aren't at my house, so I need to get them.
2. A more long-term test to decide on it's toughness and resistance to fraying
3. What it's like for me on my casting reels (I'm already impressed with spinning)
4. I'd like to test out a line to leader connection. The package only recommends one, a Double Uni, but I'd like to try an Alberto knot with this since that's my leader knot of choice
5. Long term test to determine colorfastness
6. Just keep using it to see what other issues, positive or negative, that I can observe.
If this is to become one of my go-to lines, I'll put it through it's paces before I start switching out other reels.
To add on to what A-Jay said, this is currently a line I'm only considering for finesse tactics, so I'm not sure what advantages or disadvantages would be present for flipping or frogging, where you need immense strength and toughness. To be honest I almost never flip, but I do a fair amount of frogging. It's something I'll explore in the future though you can bet on it.
Master Bait'r reply :
I have a question- how does the waxy coating do with double palomars? It's all I'd use on fused line like that and the waxy coating on 832 really turns me off, as it is really grabby when tying knots ilke the DP- also I don't like how it wears off and then the line is completely different either. Looking forward to seeing how this line works out longer-term, especially concerning that coating.
Preytorien reply :
On 7/28/2015 at 10:06 PM, Master Bait said:I have a question- how does the waxy coating do with double palomars? It's all I'd use on fused line like that and the waxy coating on 832 really turns me off, as it is really grabby when tying knots ilke the DP- also I don't like how it wears off and then the line is completely different either. Looking forward to seeing how this line works out longer-term, especially concerning that coating.
I'm not totally sure that it's a coating. It FEELS like it, but it seems its more of just how the line feels. In spooling as well as tying knots, I didn't notice any loss of that wax feel. It made knots easier to cinch down in my opinion, especially a double palomar, which on some braids is a hard ask.
dolomieu reply :
I've read other reviews that that report very poor knot strength for Gliss, even with the recommended knots. The 18lb line, in particular, was breaking around 8.5 lbs at most.
I would love to see someone else repeat the strength tests.
Preytorien reply :
I gave it a decent test last night for abrasion resistance. I held the line taut and rubbed it against a few different materials. I ran it both horizontally WITH the grain of the line, and perpendicular to the line....in order to simulate as many real-life scenarios we might encounter.
Wood - unless you REALLY ran it over the wood, over and over again, in a rough spot, it did very well. It took about 5 minutes of really rubbing against the grain to get enough of a fray to break the line. Used a tree branch for this.
Sandpaper (simulate bass teeth) - it didn't take as long as the wood, but did well here. I could see that after maybe 10 fish or so you might want to re-tie, but you should be checking anyways after every couple fish
"Average" piece of limestone - surprisingly it took a decent amount of abrading to break the line, I would estimate about the same time as it took for the sandpaper. If you're fishing rock beds, rip rap, or river, you'd probably be checking your line anyways. This was your normal large-ish size of decorative landscape piece of limestone/granite.
Coarse rock - the line broke almost immediately, but only after considerable pressure. If the line wasn't taut, it just kind of moved around, but tighten the line, and BAM, it broke quickly, every time I tried it. I could see this being a problem if you're fishing submerged pilings or sharp edged items under the surface. I used the corner edge of a cinder block to simulate coarse rock.
So it seems that it's not quite as abrasion resistant as a 8-carrier high quality braid, but it's not that far off. I fish almost exclusively grass lakes, so these items are rarely a concern. I'll keep it on.
Look for my upcoming weight-bearing observations where I'll check out true line strength and comparable knot strength.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 7/23/2015 at 5:58 AM, A-Jay said:Spent 8 hours on the water today fishing the Gliss 40 lb green; first time with it.
Thinner than braid with comparable strength for superior management.
Already covered the diameter deal and the Management aspects were very good – trouble free. At least for today; which was pretty windy & quite gusty. Keep in mind that blade bait / trailer combo cast fairly well anyway but even still I was impressed.
Hope this helps
A-Jay
Does trouble free include no digging of the line on spool???
A-Jay reply :
On 7/30/2015 at 10:49 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Does trouble free include no digging of the line on spool???
Yes - Trouble free means No Digging in of the line on the spool.
An Angler who is a routine and confident user of braided line, and can benefit from a small diameter, long casting, strong and manageable product, should be very pleased with Gliss.
Additionally, first time users of braid may find the braided line learning curve a little shorter with Gliss.
Disclaimer - abrasion resistance and the short line shock profile of this line has not been challenged by me yet so I have no comment on these characteristics.
A-Jay
OkobojiEagle reply :
When using this Gliss line on bait casting reels, are you seeing the same increase in casting distance over PE lines that you see when spooled on spinning reels.
oe
A-Jay reply :
On 7/31/2015 at 8:04 PM, OkobojiEagle said:When using this Gliss line on bait casting reels, are you seeing the same increase in casting distance over PE lines that you see when spooled on spinning reels.
oe
I've only used the line on a casting reel.
The casting "distance" I've realized and reported here is relative. What I mean is - I'm not spooling my reel every time nor are the lures launching out of site. But it does seen that I'm able to get the same or more distance with less effort and when I do exert a touch more horsepower to the throw, the baits are traveling further.
As for a spinning reel, the smoothness and smaller diameter should equate to some distance gains, but like I said, I've yet to put that theory to the test - soon though.
A-Jay
OkobojiEagle reply :
On 7/31/2015 at 8:40 PM, A-Jay said:I've only used the line on a casting reel.
The casting "distance" I've realized and reported here is relative. What I mean is - I'm not spooling my reel every time nor are the lures launching out of site. But it does seen that I'm able to get the same or more distance with less effort and when I do exert a touch more horsepower to the throw, the baits are traveling further.
As for a spinning reel, the smoothness and smaller diameter should equate to some distance gains, but like I said, I've yet to put that theory to the test - soon though.
A-Jay
When I fished NanoFil (for 2 1/2 years) I saw significant gains in casting distance with spinning reels, but no increased distance with casting reels. Just wondering if Gliss offered the same results in casting distance with each type of reel.
oe
A-Jay reply :
On 7/31/2015 at 8:51 PM, OkobojiEagle said:When I fished NanoFil (for 2 1/2 years) I saw significant gains in casting distance with spinning reels, but no increased distance with casting reels. Just wondering if Gliss offered the same results in casting distance with each type of reel.
oe
I don't know what else to tell you. I've described it the best I can. I like the stuff.
I say try it.
A-Jay
OkobojiEagle reply :
On 7/31/2015 at 9:02 PM, A-Jay said:I don't what else to tell you. I've described it the best I can. I like the stuff.
I say try it.
A-Jay
Yup... probably will, but most likely next season. I'll continue to read reactions to the line until then.
oe
A-Jay reply :
On 7/31/2015 at 9:09 PM, OkobojiEagle said:Yup... probably will, but most likely next season. I'll continue to read reactions to the line until then.
oe
Good Luck
A-Jay
Master Bait'r reply :
On 7/31/2015 at 8:51 PM, OkobojiEagle said:When I fished NanoFil (for 2 1/2 years) I saw significant gains in casting distance with spinning reels, but no increased distance with casting reels. Just wondering if Gliss offered the same results in casting distance with each type of reel.
oe
This actually makes perfect sense to me. On a spinning reel the characteristics of the line itself dictates how it's going to come off the spool- which is not really a functional part of the cast in the way that a casting reel is.
On a casting reel, the dialing of the spool largely dictates how much line is going to come off. Sure, a lighter, smoother line will come off slightly easier but it is in large part a function of the resistance provided by the braking, spool tension and the weight of the spool & line itself- not to mention the rod loading up but that's another deal altogether.
Spinning reels will have a much more immediate and noticeable difference when you change lines so to answer at least part of your question it really depends on you and the casting setup you're using n respect to how it'll do on it.
I am actually really stoked to try this line. I would order some right now but I just respooled my spinning outfit with the dreaded Nano- which I like certain things about but I have limited confidence in overall. It really does sound good from the reviews and positive feedback here and I'm definitely going to be picking some up when it's time to spool up again.
Megastink reply :
I tried the 24lb Gliss yesterday on a drop shot yesterday, and holy cow, this stuff is for REAL! It reminds me of braid, but it's super smooth, and a lot thinner than my old 15lb Suffix 832.
I use a 1/4oz drop shot weight most of the time, and was effortlessly casting 35-40 yards. When you cast, you notice no noise, unlike the dragging sound braid makes, and that goes for line coming back to the reel as well. I was using a tungsten weight, and was counting pebbles: this line is super sensitive and had zero stretch from what I could tell. I was also using a 10lb invisx leader.
I didn't catch any fish, so I'm curious how this line will perform under fight pressure, but I'm very confident. I paid $28 for 300 yards: a great deal even for braided line, which this isn't, but it's similar.
Preytorien reply :
On 8/3/2015 at 8:08 PM, Megastink said:I tried the 24lb Gliss yesterday on a drop shot yesterday, and holy cow, this stuff is for REAL! It reminds me of braid, but it's super smooth, and a lot thinner than my old 15lb Suffix 832.
I use a 1/4oz drop shot weight most of the time, and was effortlessly casting 35-40 yards. When you cast, you notice no noise, unlike the dragging sound braid makes, and that goes for line coming back to the reel as well. I was using a tungsten weight, and was counting pebbles: this line is super sensitive and had zero stretch from what I could tell. I was also using a 10lb invisx leader.
I didn't catch any fish, so I'm curious how this line will perform under fight pressure, but I'm very confident. I paid $28 for 300 yards: a great deal even for braided line, which this isn't, but it's similar.
I've been using it (24lb) this weekend in some very weed-grown ponds. I've hooked a few north of 3lbs with what seems like 60lbs of weeds along with it. Pulled it in no problem. I've not had any breakoffs whatsoever yet. *fingers crossed*
WPCfishing reply :
I tried the 40# Gliss line. I like it for spinning reels. I'll stick with PP or 832 on my bait casters.
Preytorien reply :
I'm leaning more and more towards using Gliss as just a spinning reel line. Based on the mechanics that go into a baitcasting reel and the action of the line leaving the reel, spinning reels seem more suited to the advantages of this line. I've been using it for over a week now, 6 outings and still going strong. It's really impressive. I would say the only issue is that I notice a bit of fraying after several landed fish, probably occurring from their rough teeth.
Element22 reply :
Hi everyone,
I`ve been following your discussions. My question is which knots you use to connect Gliss with fluorocarbon and if you have some experience till now how well they work.
You`ve spoken of Uni-knot or Double Palomar, but it`s mostly used for connection things like a swirl or lure to the line.
Did anyone test the improved Albright-Knot? And if, is it good for connecting Gliss with fluorocarbon or did Gliss maybe cut into fluorocarbon? Or are the better knots for this two lines?
Best regards,
Ele
Megastink reply :
I use an Albright. Hasn't failed me yet.
faygo1979 reply :
I have it on one of my baitcasters and it is working out really well so far. Basically it feels like a smooth smaller braid. I have not had any digging issues that i sometimes run into with braid and it seems to cast well and hold up well. If it holds up I think this will replace braid for me on most of my reels. the only issue I have run into is it slipping the knot on my leader
OkobojiEagle reply :
When casting with a SPINNING REEL, does Gliss line lay on the water like a loose slinky?
oe
Nocturnal reply :
Looks like I'll be stripping some PP off of a spinning reel and trying some Gliss. If it works for me like it has for Preytorien on spinning gear then I'll be good with the only advantage being it's quiet cast and retrieve. For some reason that "braid noise" makes me twitch more with spinning gear than with casters. Then again I've only been using straight Fluro on most of my casters, so Gliss may be an all-around solution for me there as well. I've been looking for something that offers less stretch and a little more sensitivity that ISN'T braid for my casters. I'm intrigued enough to buy a couple spools worth to try for myself.
Thanks to A-Jay and Preytorien
God Bless
A-Jay reply :
On 8/21/2015 at 1:34 AM, Nocturnal said:Looks like I'll be stripping some PP off of a spinning reel and trying some Gliss. If it works for me like it has for Preytorien on spinning gear then I'll be good with the only advantage being it's quiet cast and retrieve. For some reason that "braid noise" makes me twitch more with spinning gear than with casters. Then again I've only been using straight Fluro on most of my casters, so Gliss may be an all-around solution for me there as well. I've been looking for something that offers less stretch and a little more sensitivity that ISN'T braid for my casters. I'm intrigued enough to buy a couple spools worth to try for myself.
Thanks to A-Jay and Preytorien
God Bless
You're most welcome and please let us know how it goes.
A-Jay
Nocturnal reply :
Will do.
Thanks again!
Steveo-1969 reply :
I just want to thank A-Jay and Preytorian for their in-depth reviews of this line. I saw this line mentioned on another forum (I know - SACRILEGE!!) but it was barely mentioned. Immediately came here and wouldn't you know it, lots of great information!!
I've been using 10# Sufix 832 for the past several years and I've been happy with it except for casting distance. My son can easily outcast me with 8# mono using same rod specs and bait weight. This thread has me itching to try the 24# on my spinning rod!!
A-Jay reply :
On 8/21/2015 at 3:50 AM, Steveo-1969 said:I just want to thank A-Jay and Preytorian for their in-depth reviews of this line. I saw this line mentioned on another forum (I know - SACRILEGE!!) but it was barely mentioned. Immediately came here and wouldn't you know it, lots of great information!!
I've been using 10# Sufix 832 for the past several years and I've been happy with it except for casting distance. My son can easily outcast me with 8# mono using same rod specs and bait weight. This thread has me itching to try the 24# on my spinning rod!!
You're welcome ~
I also use the 10lb 832 and it's very good.
I think this is a little better.
A-Jay
Steveo-1969 reply :
On 8/21/2015 at 3:58 AM, A-Jay said:You're welcome ~
I also use the 10lb 832 and it's very good.
I think this is a little better.
A-Jay
Good to hear, thanks!
Preytorien reply :
No problem guys. A-Jay got the ball rolling, and his review convinced me to try it out. So a big shout out to his excellent review.
I've been using it for a while now. I feel like I've got a good handle on the goods and bads. The goods outweigh the bads, trust me.
Good...
Very long casting - it's literally shocking
Smooth and noiseless - a welcome thing since I seem to always end up using a 4 carrier braid
Seems to be at/very close to rated weight specs
Inexpensive - $15 from Ardent and TW
No coating - notihng to rub off and cause discoloration
Bads...
Slick-ness of line means you have to find a strong and no slip knot. Fail to do this and it'll break your heart. I found a 10+ wrap SDJ or double Palomar to be the ones I don't have slippage with
Prone to fraying after several fish, I Just re-tie after every other fish. Again, fail to do this and your heart will ache and you'll probably say bad words
Things I've not tried...
This line on a casting reel
This line + leader
This line for any kind of saltwater application
I'll keep updating as I find more details on this line.
Penguino reply :
On 8/21/2015 at 7:48 PM, Preytorien said:No problem guys. A-Jay got the ball rolling, and his review convinced me to try it out. So a big shout out to his excellent review.
I've been using it for a while now. I feel like I've got a good handle on the goods and bads. The goods outweigh the bads, trust me.
Good...
Very long casting - it's literally shocking
Smooth and noiseless - a welcome thing since I seem to always end up using a 4 carrier braid
Seems to be at/very close to rated weight specs
Inexpensive - $15 from Ardent and TW
No coating - notihng to rub off and cause discoloration
Bads...
Slick-ness of line means you have to find a strong and no slip knot. Fail to do this and it'll break your heart. I found a 10+ wrap SDJ or double Palomar to be the ones I don't have slippage with
Prone to fraying after several fish, I Just re-tie after every other fish. Again, fail to do this and your heart will ache and you'll probably say bad words
Things I've not tried...
This line on a casting reel
This line + leader
This line for any kind of saltwater application
I'll keep updating as I find more details on this line.
Just a few questions. Does it sink in the water, like a fluorocarbon, or does it sway in the wind like a braid when fishing weightless? Also, would you fish it in heavily weeded areas with no rocks or wood? Also, any wind knots?
Preytorien reply :
It floats on the water like braid. It quite literally feels like dental floss, kind of slick like that. I even used white, since I mainly use it as a finesse on soft plastics, and it looks just like floss, kind of comical.
It's very thin, and thus is wispy so the wind will bow it like it would a braid, however, SINCE it's so thin it's able to cut the wind and I fish weightless (I usually fish weightless senkos and flukes) without any problems
I almost exclusively fish it in very weedy ponds. It doesn't have any issues. I'm using the 24lb and I've hauled in my fair share of salad along with fish. That said, I've fished over logs and over rocks in the river without breakoffs. But be mindful of fraying. Like with any other thin braid-like material, check it every so often.
I've not had one wind knot surprisingly I've fished Slick 8 for a few years, which I get a lot of wind knots on, but Gliss has given me no trouble. Even with jerking style retrieves that put varying loads on the line while wrapping it, I haven't had a single tangle, it's very very manageable.
On a side note, I fish a weird pond that's very weedy and shallow, and the fish here are unusually skittish, so I often use a finesse rod with a smaller (1/8oz) frog, and even when using topwater, where a decent hookset is needed to action-ize the hooks, the Gliss pulls very well since it has zero stretch, I get some great topwater hooksets.
Steveo-1969 reply :
Quick question. Has anyone used a uni-to-uni with this line to connect a fluorocarbon leader? I can tie this knot in my sleep and would like to hear feedback on how well it worked.
TIA
Element22 reply :
On 7/23/2015 at 7:27 AM, A-Jay said:...
As for the knot used - I use a Uni-knot almost exclusively... for EVERYTHING. This line ties great and that knot works perfectly. It's also the recommended knot on the Line's packaging.
...
A-Jay
A-Jay seems to. Maybe he`ll tell if it still works perfectly.
A-Jay reply :
On 8/22/2015 at 4:23 AM, Steveo-1969 said:Quick question. Has anyone used a uni-to-uni with this line to connect a fluorocarbon leader? I can tie this knot in my sleep and would like to hear feedback on how well it worked.
TIA
On 8/22/2015 at 10:43 PM, Element22 said:A-Jay seems to. Maybe he`ll tell if it still works perfectly.
The recommended knots that accompany the product are the uni-knot and the Palamar.
Both have worked perfectly, displaying no slippage or unusual binding.
Please note - I use monofilament leader line and not fluorocarbon line.
A-Jay
OkobojiEagle reply :
On 8/20/2015 at 11:11 PM, OkobojiEagle said:When casting with a SPINNING REEL, does Gliss line lay on the water like a loose slinky?
oe
still wondering...
oe
Preytorien reply :
Nope. It's totally loose. You won't see any coiling. Looks just like braid
OkobojiEagle reply :
On 8/23/2015 at 2:02 AM, Preytorien said:Nope. It's totally loose. You won't see any coiling. Looks just like braid
Thanks
oe
Element22 reply :
Maybe you are interested in other "reviews", hope it`s ok to post the link: http://www.lureanglers.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29569
Last posts dosen`t sounds so good. But as I have a spool since early 2015 I´ll test it next week.
Steveo-1969 reply :
On 8/22/2015 at 10:53 PM, A-Jay said:The recommended knots that accompany the product are the uni-knot and the Palamar.
Both have worked perfectly, displaying no slippage or unusual binding.
Please note - I use monofilament leader line and not fluorocarbon line.
A-Jay
Thanks A-Jay. I must have missed the part about using a uni-to-uni for main line to leader connection.
Couple more weeks and I'll be able to order some Gliss line for my spinning rod. I'm very excited to try it out!
Preytorien reply :
On 8/27/2015 at 9:41 PM, Element22 said:Maybe you are interested in other "reviews", hope it`s ok to post the link: http://www.lureanglers.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29569
Last posts dosen`t sounds so good. But as I have a spool since early 2015 I´ll test it next week.
I'll admit I've not tried my spool of it for as long as most of those guys, but it seems to me that 99% of their problems (which I've not had yet), could be alleviated by using a mono/flouro leader. I'm still testing out some leader knots to ensure that slippage isn't observed, and it's been good so far. But I can attest that there was some fraying at the ends of mine, very close to the lure, so that's the reason I've added a leader. I fish some very rocky shallow river bottoms, I wouldn't want to lose fish from a frayed line.
OkobojiEagle reply :
On 8/28/2015 at 12:14 AM, Preytorien said:seems to me that 99% of their problems (which I've not had yet), could be alleviated by using a mono/flouro leader.
Your suggestion is a valid work-around to a noted short-coming. It's the short-comings I'm looking for in product reviews. On the strength of several reviews (yours' included), I'm trying two different diameters of this line and hope that it has more durability that NanoFil which it sounds very similar to.
oe
Preytorien reply :
On 8/28/2015 at 9:20 PM, OkobojiEagle said:Your suggestion is a valid work-around to a noted short-coming. It's the short-comings I'm looking for in product reviews. On the strength of several reviews (yours' included), I'm trying two different diameters of this line and hope that it has more durability that NanoFil which it sounds very similar to.
oe
I did post one test I did about the abrasion resistance of the line, because I had heard Nanofil had its issues, and I found Gliss to probably be similar, where it lacked. My point was to make that while I'm not going to take the line off my reel, for the folks that consistently fish abrading conditions, a flouro/mono leader will probably be the only way you'll be confidently able to fish this line (or Nanofil, or most other braids) and have confidence that fraying won't break your heart.
That said, I've had fraying and abrading, and have not yet had a breakoff, so the line even when frayed seems very tough, but I'd rather eliminate the chance and use a leader, to which I do all the time anyways with other braids.
Hope this helps.....like I said, I'm still not taking it off. The benefits of this line so far outweigh the apparent only flaw I've found yet in it.
1099gl reply :
I love the small diameter but I don't really want 24 pound test on my spinning reel, only problem is if you went any smaller it would be like tippet for trout fishing.
Hollada reply :
I fish ultra clear smallie waters. Does this line require a leader - or is the clear truly clear?
A-Jay reply :
On 12/27/2015 at 10:29 AM, Hollada said:I fish ultra clear smallie waters. Does this line require a leader - or is the clear truly clear?
Gliss line is a monotex which basically means the line is made up of extruded polyethylene fibers. This results in strands of fiber fused together to form one monotextiled line. So it has the properties of braid in its strength and smaller diameters, but it casts better than braid because it doesn’t have a woven texture and it’s so incredibly limp.
All of that said, the "Translucent" version in my opinion, is not Fluorocarbon like clear if that's what you're asking.
One could make this comparison - If Fluorocarbon is similar to a sheet of clear glass then Gliss line compares to a sheet of Frosted glass - not completely clear or transparent but clear enough to allow light to pass through; but you probably wouldn't walk into a sheet of it.
A-Jay
Bluebasser86 reply :
Bought a spool of 24lb Gliss to use on my Ned Rig rod about a month ago. After the last month of use, all I can think is, "Why did I wait so long to try this stuff?" Casting distance is amazing, incredibly thin, very similar to braid in a lot of other aspects. Leaders are no problem to tie and I've had no problems with fraying or knots slipping. Only issue is the wind catches it badly but it's the same way with other superlines in the wind. I'll be buying at least one more spool to do another rod with it.
OkobojiEagle reply :
My experience with Gliss appears to be somewhat different than many of the reports I've read. Mid August I purchased two spools of Gliss, one that was labeled 11lb. and one that was labeled 19lb. (I've read reviews of 12lb. and 18lb. so I assume those are the same diameters of Gliss, but the company can't come to a consensus about what to label the various strengths of their line.) I spooled them onto two spinning reels and began using these two rod/reels exclusively fishing open water smallmouth from a boat and shallow walleye from a smooth bouldered shoreline.
Within a week of fishing the 11lb. line I concluded it was two "whispy" for my fishing and I removed it from my reel and replaced it with the spool of 6lb. fused Fireline I previously had on that reel. By whispy I mean it was so thin and light I couldn't see where it entered the water and it floated during a cast even on calm days. I gave that spool to an angler on this board who wanted to try it for his crappie fishing. I've never heard back from him about his experience with it.
The 19lb. version I continued to fish almost exclusively through Sept., Oct. and Nov. It behaved very similarly to the 6lb. Fireline I'm very familiar with except the casting distance was initially improved. As I got into Oct. I noticed the coating was wearing off and it began to fray. By the end of Oct. I found and cut off significant abrasions, some 20' - 30' up the line. On a couple of occasions I lost ~2lb. walleye to line breakage several feet above the terminal connection. Along with the abrasions I noticed the line no longer out distanced the 6lb. Fireline when casting. I ended my fishing season being disappointed with the 19lb. Gliss when comparing it to the 6lb. Fireline and will throw this well worn line away before spring. I have never thrown any other PE line away because of wearing... even after several years of fishing it.
That's my story with Gliss.
(edit: the 19lb Gliss was always fished with a 6lb. mono-filament leader of 6' - 2' length)
oe
A-Jay reply :
On 12/27/2015 at 11:13 PM, OkobojiEagle said:My experience with Gliss appears to be somewhat different than many of the reports I've read. Mid August I purchased two spools of Gliss, one that was labeled 11lb. and one that was labeled 19lb. (I've read reviews of 12lb. and 18lb. so I assume those are the same diameters of Gliss, but the company can't come to a consensus about what to label the various strengths of their line.) I spooled them onto two spinning reels and began using these two rod/reels exclusively fishing open water smallmouth from a boat and shallow walleye from a smooth bouldered shoreline.
Within a week of fishing the 11lb. line I concluded it was two "whispy" for my fishing and I removed it from my reel and replaced it with the spool of 6lb. fused Fireline I previously had on that reel. By whispy I mean it was so thin and light I couldn't see where it entered the water and it floated during a cast even on calm days. I gave that spool to an angler on this board who wanted to try it for his crappie fishing. I've never heard back from him about his experience with it.
The 19lb. version I continued to fish almost exclusively through Sept., Oct. and Nov. It behaved very similarly to the 6lb. Fireline I'm very familiar with except the casting distance was initially improved. As I got into Oct. I noticed the coating was wearing off and it began to fray. By the end of Oct. I found and cut off significant abrasions, some 20' - 30' up the line. On a couple of occasions I lost ~2lb. walleye to line breakage several feet above the terminal connection. Along with the abrasions I noticed the line no longer out distanced the 6lb. Fireline when casting. I ended my fishing season being disappointed with the 19lb. Gliss when comparing it to the 6lb. Fireline and will throw this well worn line away before spring. I have never thrown any other PE line away because of wearing... even after several years of fishing it.
That's my story with Gliss.
(edit: the 19lb Gliss was always fished with a 6lb. mono-filament leader of 6' - 2' length)
oe
Great Feedback
Thank you for sharing it.
A-Jay
Retired@176 reply :
On 12/27/2015 at 11:14 AM, A-Jay said:Gliss line is a monotex which basically means the line is made up of extruded polyethylene fibers. This results in strands of fiber fused together to form one monotextiled line. So it has the properties of braid in its strength and smaller diameters, but it casts better than braid because it doesn’t have a woven texture and it’s so incredibly limp.
All of that said, the "Translucent" version in my opinion, is not Fluorocarbon like clear if that's what you're asking.
One could make this comparison - If Fluorocarbon is similar to a sheet of clear glass then Gliss line compares to a sheet of Frosted glass - not completely clear or transparent but clear enough to allow light to pass through; but you probably wouldn't walk into a sheet of it.
A-Jay
and braid with trade names advertised as "Spectra or Dynema is woven extruded polyethylene fibers so Gliss (mono) is basically fused polyethylene fibers and thus has similar properties but it is not Fluro clear, well stated A-Jay
Steveo-1969 reply :
My experience with Gliss is similar to OkobojiEagle. I've been using 24# on a spinning rod since September and initially I loved the casting distance. But the coating is wearing off and the line has started to fray and the casting distance is now no better than I was getting with 10# Sufix 832. I always tie on a FC leader, but I've had to cut off yards and yards to get to unfrayed line. It was a nice experiment, but I'm going back to 832 when it's time to replace the line.
Further North reply :
Great topic - I appreciate all the info.
I'm going to try 40# on a bait-casting rig, and 24# on a spinning rig. I will most likely be running both with fluorocarbon or co-polymer leaders.
I have a couple of questions:
- Has anyone tried the FG knot for tying on leaders with Gliss?
- When the business end of the line gets frayed...has anyone tried the old trout fisherman's trick of pulling the line off, swapping ends and spooling it back on?
...are there any other updates?
Bluebasser86 reply :
I've been fishing it for a few months now and have had no breakage/fraying issues. I tied and Albright knot with mine and it's worked just fine. I've fished it quite a bit and caught a lot of fish with it in the time I've used it, mostly fishing a Ned Rig. I don't feel it would be a good option for casting gear, but that's just my opinion.
aquaholik reply :
Here is a work in progress. Since line diameter is hard to measure, we weighted a 10ft section instead. For spinning reel, you can bet almost 100% that the lighter the line weight, the further it will cast. There will be a difference with new slick super smooth line VS coarse and wiry line of the same diameter but generally, all braids get softer with use including stiff and wiry fireline so line weight should give a good idea of it's castability in spinning reel where line diameter is almost everything.
Line weight/ft will give you an idea of it's diameter, especially if you are have two line like Gliss 24lbs and Suffix 832 in 10lbs to compare. Yes, Gliss is indeed thinner, but it's also weaker. There's also FG knot test done for some of those line listed. Generally, FG knot is 80-90% depending on the braid. Softer braid like Gliss, Samurai Braid, J Braid, and Suffix 832 tends to do very well.
As far as fishing with Gliss 24lbs, I have no trouble with it's handling or strength, but I do agree that long term durability is questionable since it's so thin and the coating does wear off quickly and with that, a 10 to 20% drop in knot strength. I don't see it being a problem in fresh water fishing where the Fluro leader will be less than 15 lbs.
I spooled up a Stradic FK 4000 with it and went Pompano fishing with 25lbs Fluro leader and had no trouble landing 2 to 3 lbs Pompanos with drag set at 3lbs. Also no wind knot even in a fully spooled reel. I was casting 3/8 oz jig a good 60-65 yds and the line cuts thru the water/current well since it's so thin. It's sensitive like any super thin braid.
Felix77 reply :
Just got a pack of 12lb Gliss to test out. I didn't realize how small it was. Definitely going to try on spinning gear to see how it works out.
aquaholik reply :
On 3/18/2016 at 3:37 AM, Felix77 said:Just got a pack of 12lb Gliss to test out. I didn't realize how small it was. Definitely going to try on spinning gear to see how it works out.
That would probably be the thinnest braid you can get in the US market, probably thinner than Kanzen 10lbs which is already thinner than Power Pro 3lbs. Wouldn't surprise me if the knotted strength of Gliss 12 lbs is 5-8 lbs.
Oklahoma Mike reply :
I was thinking about picking up some 40lb Gliss and spooling it up on a topwater baitcasting setup. Any thoughts or insights on this application from those who have used this line?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/20/2016 at 1:26 AM, Oklahoma Mike said:I was thinking about picking up some 40lb Gliss and spooling it up on a topwater baitcasting setup. Any thoughts or insights on this application from those who have used this line?
I don't feel like Gliss would be a good option for casting gear from my experience with it. Or maybe I should say I think you'll negate the benefits of a line like Gliss with casting gear.
Preytorien reply :
I definitely won't be using it on my casting outfits. To me Gliss is purely a spinning line. It's really slick, so I can imagine that given it's already super thin diameter and add the slick coating, you could get some wicked dig.
Molay1292 reply :
I just wanted to add a little to the two great reviews that have already been presented. I have had the opportunity to use the 18# test Gliss line on a spinning reel. The lakes that I used the line in are both heavily infested with Zebra Muscle. My normal choice of line for these lakes is PP Slick 8 in 10# test and a long 6-8# test FC leader. I decided that I would test this line with no leader at all just to get a feel for what it was actually capable of. I tied the line using the recommended knots on the packaging, uni to uni for tying to my backing and palomar to the bait. The fishing was slow, so I went to a bait that has always produced well for me on these lakes, I tied on a Kietech 4" Easy Shiner, it wasn't long before I had the first fish on, it was not the smallmouth that I had hoped for but instead a fish that truly give the line and knots a good test, a 6# wiper. It was not long before I had a second fish hooked up and again it was a nice 5# wiper, the line and knots performed perfectly. The fishing slowed to almost nothing so we decided to move to lake #2, a lake that is even more infested with razor sharp Zebra Muscle, I retied checking my line, I noticed no nicks, cuts, or fraying from the previous lake. For the new lake I chose to use the Ned Rig, it is a good bait for numbers and I have had great luck with it. The fishing was extremely slow, without much to show for about 4hrs of fishing, however, fishing the Ned Rig in heavy rip rap and having many snags that I was able to free I checked my line frequently, it held up great, no fraying, no unexpected break offs, just good fishing.
At the end of the day I showed my line to my fishing partner and it did have a small cut in the line, after fishing for more than an hour without re-tying. He was as amazed as I, I highly recommend this line, it is everything they say it is, in my opinion. I have opted to move to the 24# test because of it's slightly larger diameter, makes knot tying a little easier, I have no doubt about this line and it's performance as of now, will report if something changes.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/22/2016 at 3:02 AM, Molay1292 said:I just wanted to add a little to the two great reviews that have already been presented. I have had the opportunity to use the 18# test Gliss line on a spinning reel. The lakes that I used the line in are both heavily infested with Zebra Muscle. My normal choice of line for these lakes is PP Slick 8 in 10# test and a long 6-8# test FC leader. I decided that I would test this line with no leader at all just to get a feel for what it was actually capable of. I tied the line using the recommended knots on the packaging, uni to uni for tying to my backing and palomar to the bait. The fishing was slow, so I went to a bait that has always produced well for me on these lakes, I tied on a Kietech 4" Easy Shiner, it wasn't long before I had the first fish on, it was not the smallmouth that I had hoped for but instead a fish that truly give the line and knots a good test, a 6# wiper. It was not long before I had a second fish hooked up and again it was a nice 5# wiper, the line and knots performed perfectly. The fishing slowed to almost nothing so we decided to move to lake #2, a lake that is even more infested with razor sharp Zebra Muscle, I retied checking my line, I noticed no nicks, cuts, or fraying from the previous lake. For the new lake I chose to use the Ned Rig, it is a good bait for numbers and I have had great luck with it. The fishing was extremely slow, without much to show for about 4hrs of fishing, however, fishing the Ned Rig in heavy rip rap and having many snags that I was able to free I checked my line frequently, it held up great, no fraying, no unexpected break offs, just good fishing.
At the end of the day I showed my line to my fishing partner and it did have a small cut in the line, after fishing for more than an hour without re-tying. He was as amazed as I, I highly recommend this line, it is everything they say it is, in my opinion. I have opted to move to the 24# test because of it's slightly larger diameter, makes knot tying a little easier, I have no doubt about this line and it's performance as of now, will report if something changes.
Wolf to Melvern? I've been using the stuff on both and have yet to get cut off with it. Had a couple pretty good tussles with some wipers, cats, and drum as well.
OkobojiEagle reply :
On 3/22/2016 at 3:02 AM, Molay1292 said:I just wanted to add a little to the two great reviews that have already been presented. I have had the opportunity to use the 18# test Gliss line on a spinning reel. The lakes that I used the line in are both heavily infested with Zebra Muscle. My normal choice of line for these lakes is PP Slick 8 in 10# test and a long 6-8# test FC leader. I decided that I would test this line with no leader at all just to get a feel for what it was actually capable of. I tied the line using the recommended knots on the packaging, uni to uni for tying to my backing and palomar to the bait. The fishing was slow, so I went to a bait that has always produced well for me on these lakes, I tied on a Kietech 4" Easy Shiner, it wasn't long before I had the first fish on, it was not the smallmouth that I had hoped for but instead a fish that truly give the line and knots a good test, a 6# wiper. It was not long before I had a second fish hooked up and again it was a nice 5# wiper, the line and knots performed perfectly. The fishing slowed to almost nothing so we decided to move to lake #2, a lake that is even more infested with razor sharp Zebra Muscle, I retied checking my line, I noticed no nicks, cuts, or fraying from the previous lake. For the new lake I chose to use the Ned Rig, it is a good bait for numbers and I have had great luck with it. The fishing was extremely slow, without much to show for about 4hrs of fishing, however, fishing the Ned Rig in heavy rip rap and having many snags that I was able to free I checked my line frequently, it held up great, no fraying, no unexpected break offs, just good fishing.
At the end of the day I showed my line to my fishing partner and it did have a small cut in the line, after fishing for more than an hour without re-tying. He was as amazed as I, I highly recommend this line, it is everything they say it is, in my opinion. I have opted to move to the 24# test because of it's slightly larger diameter, makes knot tying a little easier, I have no doubt about this line and it's performance as of now, will report if something changes.
Please come back this coming fall and write us a time tested review...
oe
Oklahoma Mike reply :
Picked up some 25lb and some 40lb yesterday.
Looking at the sizes, I did some comparing to Trilene XL:
Gliss XL
24lb 0.007 4lb 0.008
40lb 0.010 8lb 0.010
I'm going to spool up the 24lb on a 2500 size reel and put the 40lb on a 3500. Currently on these reels I have 8lb Fireline (.007in) on the 2500 and 20lb PP (.009in) on the 3500, so size-wise there is not going to be much change from what I'm using currently. Will I still see some benefits to casting distance, or am I primarily gaining breaking strength and a quieter line?
Also, regarding leaders: I usually fish pretty stained waters and I don't worry much about line viability, but I do typically use a leader if I feel my braid may inhibit the action of my lure. So my questions are, do you feel that this line is okay for tying direct to most baits (say a Ned Rig or wacky style Senko, or topwater baits)? And if a leader is needed, what is the recommended line, flouro or mono?
Thanks for any input on this. I'm really excited to try this line out. I love the feel of braid but the noise drives me nuts.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/22/2016 at 9:57 PM, Oklahoma Mike said:Picked up some 25lb and some 40lb yesterday.
Looking at the sizes, I did some comparing to Trilene XL:
Gliss XL
24lb 0.007 4lb 0.008
40lb 0.010 8lb 0.010I'm going to spool up the 24lb on a 2500 size reel and put the 40lb on a 3500. Currently on these reels I have 8lb Fireline (.007in) on the 2500 and 20lb PP (.009in) on the 3500, so size-wise there is not going to be much change from what I'm using currently. Will I still see some benefits to casting distance, or am I primarily gaining breaking strength and a quieter line?
Also, regarding leaders: I usually fish pretty stained waters and I don't worry much about line viability, but I do typically use a leader if I feel my braid may inhibit the action of my lure. So my questions are, do you feel that this line is okay for tying direct to most baits (say a Ned Rig or wacky style Senko, or topwater baits)? And if a leader is needed, what is the recommended line, flouro or mono?
Thanks for any input on this. I'm really excited to try this line out. I love the feel of braid but the noise drives me nuts.
The casting distance increase in significant with spinning gear.
You should have no issues if you choose to tie direct. I use a leader regardless for the extra abrasion resistance. I opt for copolymer or mono personally.
Molay1292 reply :
On 3/22/2016 at 2:11 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Wolf to Melvern? I've been using the stuff on both and have yet to get cut off with it. Had a couple pretty good tussles with some wipers, cats, and drum as well.
Yes, Wolf to Melvern, figure if it holds up at those places it is probably good stuff.
Molay1292 reply :
On 3/22/2016 at 8:17 PM, OkobojiEagle said:Please come back this coming fall and write us a time tested review...
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I have spooled a couple more spinning reels with the Gliss, both in 18 and 24 lb. test. I will report back after I have had a chance to put some time on the line. Hope it ends up as good as I think it is going to be.
Oklahoma Mike reply :
Okay, so I did spool up some 40lb on a 3500 size reel and have taken it out for 3 outings. It was difficult to judge how much backing to put on in order to get the entire 150 yards on, and I ended up having to waste the last 20 or so yards.
i used a double uni for tying to the backing and a palomar for tying baits. I did not use a leader. I was bombing casts like I never thought possible. I am truly amazed at the difference it makes in casting distance. It was also very quiet, unlike braid.
On one particular outing it was very windy, and I experienced quite a bit of wind whip, but that was to be expected. I did notice some line twist, and a few times the line would wrap the pole between the last two guides in a strange way that I've never encountered with any other type of line.
Knots were not difficult at all to tie. Sensitivity was good but not quite as good as braid. No problem with hook sets - it seemed to fish just like braid in that regard. I didn't fish any areas where abrasion was an issue so not sure about that.
At the end of the day, I think the 40lb is a bit heavy. I really enjoyed the castability and how quiet it was, but the line did not seem as supple as I was expecting. I'm going to put some 24lb on a 2500 size and see if I like that better.
Further North reply :
I bought some in 24 lb. and 40 lb., but have not had time to spool it up or try casting it.
Initial impressions are favorable - I can see why some folks have compares the lighter lines to floss.
aquaholik reply :
Treat the 24lbs Gliss like you would treat most 8lb braids when it comes to strength. It will be about the same. Don't let the label mislead you in to thinking that it will be twice as strong as 10 lbs braid. It's not. Actually far weaker but of course it's also thinner and will cast a mile.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 3/27/2016 at 1:58 AM, aquaholik said:Treat the 24lbs Gliss like you would treat most 8lb braids when it comes to strength. It will be about the same. Don't let the label mislead you in to thinking that it will be twice as strong as 10 lbs braid. It's not. Actually far weaker but of course it's also thinner and will cast a mile.
I did some quick home style knot strength tests with some 40# Gliss I recently purchased. I haven't used the line yet these tests on fresh line. With double palomar I got 16-17 pounds, with through eye twice 6 turn uni knot 20 pounds and with line doubled then put through eye twice 6 turn uni knot 24 pound knot strength.
aquaholik reply :
On 11/7/2016 at 11:41 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:I did some quick home style knot strength tests with some 40# Gliss I recently purchased. I haven't used the line yet these tests on fresh line. With double palomar I got 16-17 pounds, with through eye twice 6 turn uni knot 20 pounds and with line doubled then put through eye twice 6 turn uni knot 24 pound knot strength.
You tied a good knot. Gliss 40 # unknotted strength is around 35 lbs but it's FG knot strength is only around 24 lbs. I tested two spools multiple time. I can get an FG knot strength of close to 30 lbs if I finish it with a bobbin finish using 18lbs Gliss. And the PR knot comes in at 33 lbs, about 92%.
I get similar result with Palomar Knot, 16-17 lbs. Every time I test Palomar knot in braid, it comes in no better than 58% with most results around the 50% mark. Palomar in mono comes in around 70%.
For example, J braid 20 lbs. ABS at 45 lbs , Palomar knot broke at 25.90 lbs
Suffix Superior mono 30 lbs test. ABS is 48 lbs, and Palomar knot broke at 31.55 lbs. Yes it breaks above the label strength but it is a long way from being a 100% knot in mono or braid.
BTW, the Benjamin knot shown below broke at 70% in braid and 100 % in mono:
30lbs Suffix Superior mono broke at 48 lbs and J braid 20 lbs broke at 32.95 lbs(ABS 45 lbs).
Preytorien reply :
I usually get good breaking strength with a San Diego Jam Knot - with about 8-10 loops in it. I use almost exclusively 24lb for my setup.
The Bassman reply :
Hi all. New member here. I've been following this thread for some time. A Jay's & Preytorian's input has influenced me to put this stuff into my spinning lineup. Here's my takeaway:
1. 24 lb. is the bomb for just about all my applications.
2. The stuff is great new but degrades fast. Not a big deal because cost is close to most 4 strands.
3. My go to knot is the double eye loop uni or "fishin' fool" knot. No slippage issues.
4. Abrasion resistance is on par with thin braids (not too great).
5. Don't use a leader. Just don't like the extra knot.
6. No wind knot issues if I don't overfill spool.
A-Jay reply :
On 11/17/2016 at 5:10 AM, The Bassman said:
Hi all. New member here. I've been following this thread for some time. A Jay's & Preytorian's input has influenced me to put this stuff into my spinning lineup. Here's my takeaway:
1. 24 lb. is the bomb for just about all my applications.
2. The stuff is great new but degrades fast. Not a big deal because cost is close to most 4 strands.
3. My go to knot is the double eye loop uni or "fishin' fool" knot. No slippage issues.
4. Abrasion resistance is on par with thin braids (not too great).
5. Don't use a leader. Just don't like the extra knot.
6. No wind knot issues if I don't overfill spool.
Hello and Welcome to Bass Resource ~
Thanks for your input.
A-Jay
Preytorien reply :
On 11/17/2016 at 5:10 AM, The Bassman said:
Hi all. New member here. I've been following this thread for some time. A Jay's & Preytorian's input has influenced me to put this stuff into my spinning lineup. Here's my takeaway:
1. 24 lb. is the bomb for just about all my applications.
2. The stuff is great new but degrades fast. Not a big deal because cost is close to most 4 strands.
3. My go to knot is the double eye loop uni or "fishin' fool" knot. No slippage issues.
4. Abrasion resistance is on par with thin braids (not too great).
5. Don't use a leader. Just don't like the extra knot.
6. No wind knot issues if I don't overfill spool.
I agree, I've attempted the leader option, and while I don't get any slippage, it's only because I have to do about 10 wraps each way on an Alberto knot, and that ends up making the knot more difficult to tie and more bulky than I like.
JediAmoeba reply :
Necromancy.
Anyway, is anyone still using this line? I bought 5 or 6 spools of this on clearance a few years ago and never tried it - I read all kinds of negative reviews after I bought it and decided against trying it. However, the line really piques my curiosity in regards to the great casting distance.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
You should try it yourself, you already have 5 spool of lines. Im still using it 18lb on my crappie rig. The line sink faster than braid and I think I feel crisper bite. The line frayed easily even with my rough finger and don’t get tangled it super hard to undone. I use it on my baitcaster, and I use a short length leader. What lbs do you have?
Choporoz reply :
After a few years, I still use it on spinning reels. 18 is the sweet spot for spinning, for me. Still love it for bass. With and without a leader. Only time I regretted having it spooled was on a trip to NW Ontario for walleye and pike. Even with a leader, super sharp rocky lakes make it pretty fragile. Down here in VA, the rocks are kinder. Holds up well in wood.
Whatever shortcomings it might have, are completely blown away by the superior manageability, castability, sensitivity. Pink is probably best all around color. Moss is nearly invisible....good for fish...bad for line watching. Chartreuse is bright, but if you are concerned bass might be line shy, well...this is blindingly bright.
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