Revo better than the Curado? 2024

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

Ok I was pretty mind set on one of the Revos when I just read all the GREAT reviews on the Curado but I also found a Revo SX vs. Curado review on TT and Micro was in it.

This post said that the SX is the better reel of the two

I also found a Bass Resouce post abt the Premier vs. Curado and this also said the Revo was better.

Is this personal preferance or is the Revos just better made reels?

roadwarrior reply :

Personal preference...

I have both the Revo STX and Curado 200E7.

I prefer Shimano.

8-)

bryand82487 reply :

I've got the revo permier and prefer my Curado over it any day.

Grey Wolf reply :

Personal preference.

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

OK thx guys

Glenn reply :

Definitely personal preference. I have an arsenal of Revo's. Sold all my Shimano's.

....the mods are watching.... :

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

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Definitely personal preference. I have an arsenal of Revo's. Sold all my Shimano's.
....the mods are watching.... :

The mods are here!!! HIDE!! they cant know about it!

K_Mac reply :

Abu or Shimano?

Pepsi or Coke?

Ford or Chevy?

White or wheat?

Blonde or brunette?

Some don't really care that much; others are ready to fight at the suggestion that one is superior to the other. Then there are the ones who will always pick one that isn't on the list...where is Dodgeguy when you need him? ;D

0119 reply :

Ive been a Shimano maniac all my fishing life. The Curado E series was a great disappointment to me. Great performer but highly cheapened from the series before it. Sadly Shimano now doesnt support the old series even though its just 2 years superceded. On a whim I bought a Revo SX. Ive found it better in every way to the E series. I hadnt bought an Abu since the Eon debacle but more Revo's are in my future. On a side note, the finish on my Stradic CI4 is rubbing off along the edge of the rotor even though its kept in a Shimano reel bag whenever its not in my hands. Im sad to say Im thinking of other brands first before Shimano now.

hitchhiker reply :

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Ive been a Shimano maniac all my fishing life. The Curado E series was a great disappointment to me. Great performer but highly cheapened from the series before it. Sadly Shimano now doesnt support the old series even though its just 2 years superceded. On a whim I bought a Revo SX. Ive found it better in every way to the E series. I hadnt bought an Abu since the Eon debacle but more Revo's are in my future. On a side note, the finish on my Stradic CI4 is rubbing off along the edge of the rotor even though its kept in a Shimano reel bag whenever its not in my hands. Im sad to say Im thinking of other brands first before Shimano now.

Just as I broke down and bought my first Shimano baitcasters. Curado 50 and a 200E7. Just wanted to try something different.

I'll give them a try, but hold on to my Daiwa Fuegos and Sol's and Revo Premiers (2010) and Winches then.

Dan: reply :

The Curado E has an incredibly positive reputation. It is highly regarded among the vast majority of its users. That being said, I have an STX and a Premier. The Premier is great but not that good with lighter baits. The STX is good with most baits but I've had maintenance issues with it.

SoFl-native reply :

Curado is a proven performer. I have an e7 sitting right next to my two 12 year old curado 200's. All of them performing flawlessly.

jeb2 reply :

It's critical in this discussion to understand exactly what year Revo folks are talking about. I have 2 of the newest, 10 bearing Premiers and they are fantastic reels. I also have a Curado 200 E7. It's a good reel, especially at the price point. Nothing special, but a good workhorse. Not as smooth as my Premiers, the drag is weaker and it does not like light baits nearly as well. The Premier has dual braking, is very adjustable, is much easier to adjust on windy days and is just a great, great all around reel.

The older Revo's, even last years, did not get near the positive reviews. Abu really stepped up this year and improved the line dramatically for most of the reels.

Big Tom reply :

I think they are both fine reels. Wouldn't mind having a whole bunch of both.

BASSclary reply :

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I think they are both fine reels. Wouldn't mind having a whole bunch of both.

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Micro reply :

Except for the Inshore, I've owned them all (Premier, STX, SX, SC, S and Winch). IMO, there is very little performance differences among them. They are strong, overbuilt reels. They cast great. They will haul up a lot of weight. And have great drags.

However, I have had a high frequency of bearing problems with them. I've had to remove bearings and clean factory grit out of them. I had to send two STXs back due to developing screeches. One of those also had metal shavings in it. Abu replaced both reels, no questions asked. I just sold my two replacements reels.

Abu's customer service is completely impersonal. Their customer service reps don't know fishing, and in my experience can't answer basic questions about reels. Detailed questions need to be refered to other people who may or may not call you. Their solution to any problem is to send the reel back for replacement. I once ordered a bearing for a spinning reel that was in warranty and they insisted I send it in for replacement. Can't argue with that, but it certainly suggests that their reels aren't worth repairing - whether they are or not. Over the last few years, Abu has gotten a big-box-store feel about them. For me, that's a major turn off.

Is the Curado better? I have experience with the Curado BSF and that was the reel that made me start buying Revos. I've owned three 200Ds and kick myself all the time for selling them. They were fabulous performers and exceptionally well built. I currently own a Castaic and love it. I replaced a Revo S with that reel. And I just bought two 200E7s and can say they cast any weight bait as well or better than my best Revo STXs. I think the Revos were more robustly built, but the Curado's robustness is entirely sufficient for bass fishing.

Choose whichever you like. Both are good reels. It's the companies that the deciding factor for me, now. For me, I sort of wish I had started where I ended up - with Shimano and Daiwa. I woulda saved a helluva lot of money and probably fewer headaches.

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

Thx everyone

Quillback reply :

I have a 2010 Premier and a 200 E7, I use them both to pitch finesse jigs, using same weight jigs (5/16-3/4) same weight floro, the Premier outperforms the E7 as far as casting distance and ease. Dual spool controls on the Premier are also much more refined. E7 is a good workhorse reel, but it's my backup reel when pitching. Maybe there are other techniques where the E7 is better reel, but I haven't found one yet.

BigGame0892 reply :

I think it comes down to personal preference like a lot of other guys. That being said, I have Shimanos and have yet to have them fail me. They may not have the most bearings, and they may not be the smoothest - but, I think their durability, all around performance and Shimano's customer service speak for themselves.

Big Bait Fishing reply :

of course Revo's are better than shimano's . as far as what Micro said , i have to tell you that in my experience with Abu garcia/pure fishing has been fantastic , the people really help you and are actually enthused to help you and make sure everything is right . and as far as bearings go , it amazes me that all these guys with a bunch of reels and big tackle connoisseurs don't replace their reel bearings with upgraded ceramic ball bearings when they do their first cleaning of their reels :-? at least put some ABEC 5 or prefferably ABEC 7 bearings in it . do that to a Revo and put in a Smoooth drag washer lightly greased with Cal's drag grease and you have a reel that is every thing you want in a reel .............

burleytog reply :

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of course Revo's are better than shimano's . as far as what Micro said , i have to tell you that in my experience with Abu garcia/pure fishing has been fantastic , the people really help you and are actually enthused to help you and make sure everything is right . and as far as bearings go , it amazes me that all these guys with a bunch of reels and big tackle connoisseurs don't replace their reel bearings with upgraded ceramic ball bearings when they do their first cleaning of their reels :-? at least put some ABEC 5 or prefferably ABEC 7 bearings in it . do that to a Revo and put in a Smoooth drag washer lightly greased with Cal's drag grease and you have a reel that is every thing you want in a reel .............

Why should you have to do that in order to get everything you want in a reel?

All of my Shimano reels are bone stock and will handle any fish you want to catch.

Sam reply :

No.

I have a Revo and like all of my Shimano's better.

Set up the Revo on a G. Loomis cranking stick for crankbaits but the rig works better with a Curado.

Big Bait Fishing reply :

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of course Revo's are better than shimano's . as far as what Micro said , i have to tell you that in my experience with Abu garcia/pure fishing has been fantastic , the people really help you and are actually enthused to help you and make sure everything is right . and as far as bearings go , it amazes me that all these guys with a bunch of reels and big tackle connoisseurs don't replace their reel bearings with upgraded ceramic ball bearings when they do their first cleaning of their reels :-? at least put some ABEC 5 or prefferably ABEC 7 bearings in it . do that to a Revo and put in a Smoooth drag washer lightly greased with Cal's drag grease and you have a reel that is every thing you want in a reel .............

Why should you have to do that in order to get everything you want in a reel?

All of my Shimano reels are bone stock and will handle any fish you want to catch.

so will a basspro shops megacast reel ;D

doesn't mean i would want to fish with it .......

TBendBassin reply :

really its personal preference

imho i think the curado out performes the revo sx in every single way.. i think the revo s is a better reel than the sx. like i said before maybe i got a dud but my sx has more use as a paper weight than it does on the deck of my boat..

northern basser reply :

Have or have had every shimano from citica to core. No complaints. Just picked up my 1st revo (2010 sx 6.4 to 1) yesterday. Excited to use it, will post opinions.

I'm die hard shimano, but wanted to try a revo. I'm not afraid to try anything once. Might get a premier in the future.

baluga reply :

I have the revo inshore and curado e5, both are good reels, but I like the curado e5 better just because less maintenance is needed. Just rinse after use and it still good for the next outing. The Revo Ins, needs spool bearing cleaning and oiling after 2 outings to maintain a good casting distance.

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

Do yall think the Weight diference between the Curado and the Premier (1.1 ounces) will be noticably heavier?

SPEEDBEAD. reply :

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Do yall think the Weight diference between the Curado and the Premier (1.1 ounces) will be noticably heavier?

If that makes a difference to you, put an extra scoop of wheaties in your morning breakfast. ;D

rubba bubba reply :

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Do yall think the Weight diference between the Curado and the Premier (1.1 ounces) will be noticably heavier?

Also a personal preference thing. Many here pay top dollar for as light a reel as possible. Others prefer the heft of a Zillion as it adds to the "overbuilt" feel/nature of the reel.

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

BassThumb reply :

I think the Revo STX and Curado E are comparable reels, both in quality and durability, retail and used price, and value. These are the two reels I've settled on and I own quite a few of each.

I prefer the feel of the Curado over the Revo by just a hair, and the Curado is easier to do a complete breakdown for cleaning, so it gets the edge in my book.

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1277522242

Either one would be a good choice, IMO. It's hard to pass up either reel for $140 or less, especially those 2009 STXs that went on closeout last year for $100 and are now in the used markets for $120-130 shipped.

jeb2 reply :

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of course Revo's are better than shimano's . as far as what Micro said , i have to tell you that in my experience with Abu garcia/pure fishing has been fantastic , the people really help you and are actually enthused to help you and make sure everything is right . and as far as bearings go , it amazes me that all these guys with a bunch of reels and big tackle connoisseurs don't replace their reel bearings with upgraded ceramic ball bearings when they do their first cleaning of their reels :-? at least put some ABEC 5 or prefferably ABEC 7 bearings in it . do that to a Revo and put in a Smoooth drag washer lightly greased with Cal's drag grease and you have a reel that is every thing you want in a reel .............

Why should you have to do that in order to get everything you want in a reel?

All of my Shimano reels are bone stock and will handle any fish you want to catch.

Good question. I've never had to do anything to my 2010 Premier's except the normal clean and lube thing, like my Shimano's. They fish awesome right out of the box.

jeb2 reply :

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imho i think the curado out performes the revo sx in every single way.. i think the revo s is a better reel than the sx. like i said before maybe i got a dud but my sx has more use as a paper weight than it does on the deck of my boat..

Boy, I hear that. I bought an 09 SX on closeout last year. Piece of junk. Worst reel I've ever owned, personally. And I've been buying baitcasters for bass since the late 70's! My 2010 Premier's are so far and away better, it's hard to believe they were made by the same company.

0119 reply :

My 2010 SX outcasts and is smoother from the get go than the 6 curado D's and 2 E's Ive owned. I see no difference in the degree of difficulty in stripping either brand down for maintenance. Knock on wood Ive yet to have a backlash on the Revo either.

bilgerat reply :

I'm gonna print up a bunch of decals to sell; one of a Revo peeing on a Curado and the other one a Curado peeing on a Revo. I'll make so much money it'll make your head swell.... :

Boogey Man reply :

I was a big time Abu fan until they were bought by Pure Fishing. Anyone who had one before knows those Swedish built reels were a completely different reel than the one's now. They had a distinct feel. Yes, they were bigger and heavier but they were built like tanks. To me, the last good reel they built was the Torno. Some of their reels (Tournament, Tournament Pro, Royal Extreme) even had dual cast control, which is popular nowadays. I know some will disagree with me but that's cool, to each his own. I'm not bashing Abu Garcia, I'm just stating my opinion.

Another thing, I've read people talk about Bass Pro and Pfueger reels and lack of parts availability because they change models so often. But what about parts for Abu Garcia since they roll of the same line now?

Anyway, back to the original question, my vote is for Shimano.

Big Bait Fishing reply :

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I'm gonna print up a bunch of decals to sell; one of a Revo peeing on a Curado and the other one a Curado peeing on a Revo. I'll make so much money it'll make your head swell.... :

hitchhiker reply :

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I'm gonna print up a bunch of decals to sell; one of a Revo peeing on a Curado and the other one a Curado peeing on a Revo. I'll make so much money it'll make your head swell.... :

Then you could go and buy all JDM Daiwas.

jeb2 reply :

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My 2010 SX outcasts and is smoother from the get go than the 6 curado D's and 2 E's Ive owned. I see no difference in the degree of difficulty in stripping either brand down for maintenance. Knock on wood Ive yet to have a backlash on the Revo either.

I've heard the 2010 version is much improved. Much like the Premier line was also improved.

northern basser reply :

Going to use my new revo sx today. Have been using the e7 all year so far. My unbiased opinion will be posted tonight. Untill now all my current reels were shimano

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

Awesome cant wait to hear what you think about it

lightsout reply :

Ive been an abu guy for 5+ years, but the new curado has converted me. Out of the box I was VERY disapointed with its casting, after flushing/relubing the spool bearings its insane how far it will cast. It palms great, is light and does everything I could ever want a baitcaster to do.

My 08' sx left a bad taste in my mouth. I collect ambassaduers and would like to try a revo again, but why bother if Im so blown away from a somewhat lower level shimano?

I would really like to see abu's take on a reel geared for lighter weights. We have seen 9 models of revos but nothing to fill that niche.

0119 reply :

I agree the old Swedish Abu's are something else. I too dont like Pure Fishing. I wont buy Berkely lines and baits. The parts for those swedish Abu's are still available and Jerry Foran custom makes those old reels to your specs. He'll even make it a C5 bearing wise and add custom JDM idle gears and such.

grimlin reply :

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I'm gonna print up a bunch of decals to sell; one of a Revo peeing on a Curado and the other one a Curado peeing on a Revo. I'll make so much money it'll make your head swell.... :

Kinda reminds me of a classic car argument that still goes on even to this day. Ford vs. Chevy

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

I am planning on buying both a Revo and a Curado, im just trying to figure out which one to buy (when I say buy I mean ask my dad and him pay for it for my B-Day lol) first. The Curado is better for light baits and I have heard nothing but good on this thread, what are the Cons?

lightsout reply :

You will want 5 more! Seriously, some will gripe about the graphite sideplate, but in real world fishing it doesnt matter.

0119 reply :

Maybe in a real world of only bass fishing! Aluminum sideplates have alot to do with the smoothness and longevity of a reel. All to do with alignment of the internals. Thats why they have to supplement it by putting in those cross pins across the center of the frame.

Micro reply :

I have a friend with a bevy of all-graphite Diawa reels from the early '80s. They have no bearings at all, just bushings. They used anti-reverse dogs. Those reels have been used, abused and when he gave them to me to clean I pulled 2+ decades of old congealed grease and dried snot out of them. These reels have been dropped, used in salt-water, and caught bass, catfish, sea trout, redfish. Once clean they were, except for scratches, as good as new.

Graphite in bass reels is a non-issue.

rubba bubba reply :

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Maybe in a real world of only bass fishing! Aluminum sideplates have alot to do with the smoothness and longevity of a reel. All to do with alignment of the internals. Thats why they have to supplement it by putting in those cross pins across the center of the frame.

Are you saying graphite warps or something causing an alignment issue?

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

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I am planning on buying both a Revo and a Curado, im just trying to figure out which one to buy (when I say buy I mean ask my dad and him pay for it for my B-Day lol) first. The Curado is better for light baits and I have heard nothing but good on this thread, what are the Cons?

Skip Abu Garcia and Shimano and go straight to Quantum

Naw, I might go buy a Kinetic or Accurist if I want something cheap, this post was not a comparison thread I was just wondering why nobody talked about these brands.

Ok I have seen ALOT of talk about daiwa and I have seen that I like the way Feugos look, how much are these reels and what Daiwa reel is comparable to a Revo or Curado?

Vinny Chase reply :

I started out using only Curados until i tried the SX because i wanted the free Wiley X glasses......WOW! I am now a REVO fan for life and will only by Abu's from now on.

K_Mac reply :

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I started out using only Curados until i tried the SX because i wanted the free Wiley X glasses......WOW! I am now a REVO fan for life and will only by Abu's from now on.

What if in a year or two Daiwa offers free Wiley X-II glasses with their latest and greatest? ;D When it comes to quality reels, I pretty much like whatever I've got in my hands... 8-)

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

I have noticed that when im fishing I dont really notice my reel its more about the rod. Im gonna get one of these reels or a Caenan or BPS CL or PQ and just get more of those

lightsout reply :

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Maybe in a real world of only bass fishing! Aluminum sideplates have alot to do with the smoothness and longevity of a reel. All to do with alignment of the internals. Thats why they have to supplement it by putting in those cross pins across the center of the frame.

More often than not, the graphite sideplated low pro reels are cheap to begin with. Sloppy tolerances, and poor build quality overall are blamed on the graphite. There was a guy on here not long ago blaming the poor performance of his BPS tourney reel on the graphite side plates ;D

Funny micro mentioned that, I inherited a Daiwa Procaster (forget the model) from my grandfather that was the reel he used for 20+ years. And to this day it works great...Again its the design, not the matierial.

roadwarrior reply :

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I have noticed that when im fishing I dont really notice my reel its more about the rod. Im gonna get one of these reels or a Caenan or BPS CL or PQ and just get more of those

Hmm...

For "catching" the rod is probably more important, but a good

reel makes "fishing" fun!

8-)

Big Tom reply :

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What if in a year or two Daiwa offers free Wiley X-II glasses with their latest and greatest? ;D When it comes to quality reels, I pretty much like whatever I've got in my hands... 8-)

This is exactly how I feel. I don't know if I have ever used a higher end offering from any of the major brands that I hated.

BASSclary reply :

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I have noticed that when im fishing I dont really notice my reel its more about the rod. Im gonna get one of these reels or a Caenan or BPS CL or PQ and just get more of those

They are good reels for the money and you will enjoy them, but you will definately notice how much you enjoy your Zillion or Revo or Curado better. But if you really want to save some money and just get more PQ's or CL's , I recommmend the CL's. They're just a lighter more comfortable reel than the PQ (I say comfort for the EVA knobs!) 8-)

Hot n Tot reply :

I've had both Revo STX and Shimano Chronarch. Both were disappointments and were returned for Zillions. Personally, I went to look at reels to get one to use only with braid and frogs. I thought this would be a good application for a Curado E7, because they are inexpensive. But, just looking at the Curado from a cosmetic perspective, just looks like an inferior reel, so I couldn't pull the trigger and ended up with another Zillion. Over $100 bucks more, but sometimes you get what you pay for.

flippin and pitchin reply :

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What if in a year or two Daiwa offers free Wiley X-II glasses with their latest and greatest? ;D When it comes to quality reels, I pretty much like whatever I've got in my hands... 8-)

This is exactly how I feel. I don't know if I have ever used a higher end offering from any of the major brands that I hated.

This is a COMPETETIVE industry. I can think of five brands that would or have already served me well. I go back to what I have said over and over again. I want value in what I buy. Avoid the term "best." I recall Burly saying that some time back.

Nibbles reply :

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I am planning on buying both a Revo and a Curado, im just trying to figure out which one to buy (when I say buy I mean ask my dad and him pay for it for my B-Day lol) first. The Curado is better for light baits and I have heard nothing but good on this thread, what are the Cons?

Skip Abu Garcia and Shimano and go straight to Quantum

Naw, I might go buy a Kinetic or Accurist if I want something cheap, this post was not a comparison thread I was just wondering why nobody talked about these brands.

Ok I have seen ALOT of talk about daiwa and I have seen that I like the way Feugos look, how much are these reels and what Daiwa reel is comparable to a Revo or Curado?

I got a Fuego from some dude for a steal. It beats my Revo STX hands down.

Brand new they run around $210.

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

OK thanks

Nottoway reply :

OK, Ill end this!!! Revo SX are the way to go. Very fast reel, more then some people can handle. I own 6 of them, and use them to throw 1/16 shakyheads all the way to flipping mat with 1 1/2 oz. GreenTop here in Virginia, has last year model $129. You buy this reel and send it to Bassman13reelservice.com and have them Super Tuned, $17, You got a reel that will out preform , whatever else you can buy!!!

ww2farmer reply :

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I am planning on buying both a Revo and a Curado, im just trying to figure out which one to buy (when I say buy I mean ask my dad and him pay for it for my B-Day lol) first. The Curado is better for light baits and I have heard nothing but good on this thread, what are the Cons?

Skip Abu Garcia and Shimano and go straight to Quantum

Naw, I might go buy a Kinetic or Accurist if I want something cheap, this post was not a comparison thread I was just wondering why nobody talked about these brands.

Ok I have seen ALOT of talk about daiwa and I have seen that I like the way Feugos look, how much are these reels and what Daiwa reel is comparable to a Revo or Curado?

I got a Fuego from some dude for a steal. It beats my Revo STX hands down.

Brand new they run around $210.

As some one who owns a Fuego, Curados, and most of the Revo's.................the Fuego is for sale, the others are not. And to the original ?, I would take the 2010 DBS Revo STX's and Premiers over ther Curado, but the Curado over the SX, or the S

BlaineFred reply :

no one has compared the drags of the two reels...

Micro reply :

Has the drag on any of the reels mentioned ever been insufficient?

Dan: reply :

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Has the drag on any of the reels mentioned ever been insufficient?

NOPE!

Unless you are asking Abu Garcia, then the obvious answer is that anything less than 20lbs in iunsufficient.

Hammer 4 reply :

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I've had both Revo STX and Shimano Chronarch. Both were disappointments and were returned for Zillions. Personally, I went to look at reels to get one to use only with braid and frogs. I thought this would be a good application for a Curado E7, because they are inexpensive. But, just looking at the Curado from a cosmetic perspective, just looks like an inferior reel, so I couldn't pull the trigger and ended up with another Zillion. Over $100 bucks more, but sometimes you get what you pay for.

Geez, why was the Chronarch a disappointment..?

I have the chronarch, and a 301E Curado. I find they both work great..Upgraded the drag in both. I use the chronarch for flippin, pitchin, and smaller swimbaits. The 301 see's duty 9n my heavy swimbait rig, and some saltwater duty.

I'm not trying to compare them to anything, just sayin they are imho good reels.. 8-)

Hot n Tot reply :

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I've had both Revo STX and Shimano Chronarch. Both were disappointments and were returned for Zillions. Personally, I went to look at reels to get one to use only with braid and frogs. I thought this would be a good application for a Curado E7, because they are inexpensive. But, just looking at the Curado from a cosmetic perspective, just looks like an inferior reel, so I couldn't pull the trigger and ended up with another Zillion. Over $100 bucks more, but sometimes you get what you pay for.

Geez, why was the Chronarch a disappointment..?

I have the chronarch, and a 301E Curado. I find they both work great..Upgraded the drag in both. I use the chronarch for flippin, pitchin, and smaller swimbaits. The 301 see's duty 9n my heavy swimbait rig, and some saltwater duty.

I'm not trying to compare them to anything, just sayin they are imho good reels.. 8-)

Just fishing a new Chronarch and a new Zillion side by side, I much prefered the Zillion. I returned the Chronarch and bought another Zillion. Nvery subjective I know, but I thought the Zillion casted better and was noticeably smoother.

0119 reply :

A reel in the price range of the Chronarch shouldnt need a drag upgrade. Heck no reel worth buying should need a drag upgrade out of the box. Frankly no reel we are talking about should be made to be JUST sufficient enough for ONLY bass fishing either.

I cant imagine a 300DSHV or 300E needing more or better drag. But every other Curado Ive had, has had the dartanium disks break apart while in the reel after some water intrusion after a heavy rain storm.

Pikesnogle reply :

shimano. period.

Hammer 4 reply :

BYW, I took my Chonarch to get it cleaned and lubed, they replaced the drag washers with carbontex under warranty. 8-)

0119 reply :

If you got your drag washers replaced under warranty they werent carbontex. Shimano would replace them with their propritory dartanium washer. Carbontex is an aftermarket product of the Smooth Drag Company.

northern basser reply :

been using a e7 all summer and got a revo sx last week. I've used the sx a lot in the last week. 1st off, I like both those reels. Definitely 2 different reels however. Personally I liked the revo's retrieve and drag a little better. As far as casting goes, the curado wins hands down. This might be because I'm more used to the shimano braking system. The more I used the revo the better at casting it I got.

I'd probably give the nod to the curado because its smaller, lighter and casts better. It's a close contest though. Very close.

I was wishing that I would have bought the premier instead of the sx. When I went back to cabelas a lifelong friend that works there told me to look at the new pflueger patriarch xt. I bought it and love it. I need to use it a little more to be completely convinced though. i think pflueger scored on this reel.

Hammer 4 reply :

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If you got your drag washers replaced under warranty they werent carbontex. Shimano would replace them with their propritory dartanium washer. Carbontex is an aftermarket product of the Smooth Drag Company.

Shimano didn't do the work. My local tackle shop did it..and, yes they are Carbontex..

Hitch reply :

I have used Shimano's all my life.I have had about 6 or so revos from s to stx and sold them all.To me as others have stated the reel throughs the line and brings it back.All the money should go to the rod and line.IMO.I have friends that fish in some major tourney's and throw nothing but a h20 express from Academy that is $50.00. and can out cast or pitch anyone.So I will tell you that no one can tell you what you will like until you go and hold or fish them both side by side.

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

WOW 6 PAGES!!! Ok I see that the contest is very close I fished with a Used curado once and I dont remember it being super smooth. Drag really isnt a big deal to me.

My dads SX is really smooth, These reels sound very alike some people will swear theres has magic powers and some ask why theres dont so...

It is gonna come down to stuff as small as looks.

Hot n Tot reply :

Well, the Curado E must fish better than it looks, because it does not look good as far as fit and finish go. OTOH, it is Shimano's base reel. When you move up to the Chronarch you get more than just increased smoothness.

Scorcher214 reply :

Daiwa.

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

Scorcher I KNEW if you posted on this thread you would say that lol. If i get a daiwa it will probably be a Advantage or Agrest but im leaning towards Abu right now.

Hammer 4 reply :

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Well, the Curado E must fish better than it looks, because it does not look good as far as fit and finish go. OTOH, it is Shimano's base reel. When you move up to the Chronarch you get more than just increased smoothness.

I agree. But I have to say again..my 301 cast's pretty dang well for still having the factory lube in it. I also feel that the fit & finish is fine for a reel in that price range, I'm not out to win a beauty contest.. ;D

I will say, that I intend to have the 301 semi super tuned, and upgrade the drag..I'll post back on how that works out.

hitchhiker reply :

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Scorcher I KNEW if you posted on this thread you would say that lol. If i get a daiwa it will probably be a Advantage or Agrest but im leaning towards Abu right now.

That is a FINE choice. Light baits, heavy baits, will do it all.

WanaBe_Like_IKE reply :

Like I said I am leaning towards Abu unless I am somhow amazingly convinced that daiwa or shimano is better or is way lighter or somthing im probably gonna ask for a Premier

J Francho reply :

The Premier is a nice reel, but a bit delicate. I've had to rebuild more than two with broken nose bezels, thumbars, worn out handle knobs and other minor issues.

bwell reply :

I think the Premier would be a nice choice, I have a STX and love it. It cast light baits with ease, and is very very smooth. I think my next purchase will be a Premier....

As far as Shimano or Abu, I have to say Abu... I have a Revo Silvermax that just wont quite and cast a crankbait a mile, and a STX that I love. Abu is just easier to cast, and on windy days I can dial it in without having to adjust the C brakes...

I have a Citica 200D and a Citica 200E, I prefer the D over the E because to me it cast better and is smoother... The E can give me trouble sometime, it might need a cleaning to fix it but who knows. My silvermax has never been cleaned and is still casting great.

So my vote goes to Abu.

BASSclary reply :

IMO get a Daiwa Zillion. Smooth as glass and casts well I hear. And its 10 dollars cheaper than the Premier but I dont thinks its gonna make a difference to you. They are SOOO super comfortable and palmable. Probably the most ergonomic reel out there IMO and there is literally a Bajillion upgrades out there for it. And I think it would look sick with your Vendetta's IMO 8-) Im buying a Zillion as soon as I get the cash

jeb2 reply :

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The Premier is a nice reel, but a bit delicate. I've had to rebuild more than two with broken nose bezels, thumbars, worn out handle knobs and other minor issues.

That's the first I've heard of any issues like that with a new Premier! Was this the older, 6 bearing black anodized one or a new 2010, 10 bearing one?

I've been fishing my 2010 Premier's pretty hard since I bought the first one around Xmas last year. I fish 4-6 days a week, and have even boated a 19lb striper with one of them (no sweat at all). It has shown zero signs of wear or any problems whatsoever.

Incheon Basser reply :

for all th abu guys... only reason i don't like revos is because the worm gear cover plate is so dang small that the nut is exposed and rubs on my fingers. funny thing is they changed this on the orra sx so i was hoping that they were going to fix it on the new revos but they did not. I have two curado 200e7s and they are ok. i have heard that abu is having some qc problems with there oem here in korea and have been sending there top guys lately at least once a month to get it fixed. clutch problems from what i hear. any way they are working on it so they do care.... i'm looking forward to the smoke release....... so sweet

jeb2 reply :

Sorry, I don't understand. The only nut that is exposed on the reel is the one holding the handle on. Is that what you mean?

I just went out to the garage and compared my E7 to one of my '10 Premiers, and the E7 has a rounded nut keeper on the handle where it's more exposed on the Premier. I read a post by one other guy saying the swept handle on the '10's cause him to catch that nut with his finger. Just shows we're all different and have different ways of holding/reeling our reels, I guess. I've never once contacted that nut on any reel I've ever owned. But I guess it might be a good idea for Abu to think about a Shimano style keeper for the handle nut since it does seem to be an issue for a few folks.

J Francho reply :

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The Premier is a nice reel, but a bit delicate. I've had to rebuild more than two with broken nose bezels, thumbars, worn out handle knobs and other minor issues.

That's the first I've heard of any issues like that with a new Premier! Was this the older, 6 bearing black anodized one or a new 2010, 10 bearing one?

I've been fishing my 2010 Premier's pretty hard since I bought the first one around Xmas last year. I fish 4-6 days a week, and have even boated a 19lb striper with one of them (no sweat at all). It has shown zero signs of wear or any problems whatsoever.

I don't know about any black Premiers, these were all gray. The new ones are pretty much still under warranty, so I won't get any sent in for service yet.

I see all kinds of broken parts, on many different reels. For whatever reason, I had a bunch of Premiers on the bench. Not what I'd use myself, but I still think they're a nice reel, especially when they're on sale.

J Francho reply :

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Sorry, I don't understand. The only nut that is exposed on the reel is the one holding the handle on. Is that what you mean?
I just went out to the garage and compared my E7 to one of my '10 Premiers, and the E7 has a rounded nut keeper on the handle where it's more exposed on the Premier. I read a post by one other guy saying the swept handle on the '10's cause him to catch that nut with his finger. Just shows we're all different and have different ways of holding/reeling our reels, I guess. I've never once contacted that nut on any reel I've ever owned. But I guess it might be a good idea for Abu to think about a Shimano style keeper for the handle nut since it does seem to be an issue for a few folks.

He's talking about the pawl cover on the line carriage. It moves back and forth, and certain reels aren't compatible with the way some people hold the reel, and their fingers get pinched.

Micro reply :

I lay my left thumb on top of the reel. My index finger wraps around the front of the reel. And mt 3rd, 4th and 5th fingers are under the reel seat.

On some reels, the pawl cap is very exposed and rubs back and forth across my index finger when cranking. This doens't happen on any Daiwa reel I have. I can wrap my finger around the front of them and never touch the pawl cap. On the Curado I can feel it a bit. But on the Revo, I can really feel the pawl cap moving. That's a very irritating to me.

Incheon Basser reply :

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I lay my left thumb on top of the reel. My index finger wraps around the front of the reel. And mt 3rd, 4th and 5th fingers are under the reel seat.
On some reels, the pawl cap is very exposed and rubs back and forth across my index finger when cranking. This doens't happen on any Daiwa reel I have. I can wrap my finger around the front of them and never touch the pawl cap. On the Curado I can feel it a bit. But on the Revo, I can really feel the pawl cap moving. That's a very irritating to me.

thats exectly what i'm talking about

jeb2 reply :

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The Premier is a nice reel, but a bit delicate. I've had to rebuild more than two with broken nose bezels, thumbars, worn out handle knobs and other minor issues.

That's the first I've heard of any issues like that with a new Premier! Was this the older, 6 bearing black anodized one or a new 2010, 10 bearing one?

I've been fishing my 2010 Premier's pretty hard since I bought the first one around Xmas last year. I fish 4-6 days a week, and have even boated a 19lb striper with one of them (no sweat at all). It has shown zero signs of wear or any problems whatsoever.

I don't know about any black Premiers, these were all gray. The new ones are pretty much still under warranty, so I won't get any sent in for service yet.

I see all kinds of broken parts, on many different reels. For whatever reason, I had a bunch of Premiers on the bench. Not what I'd use myself, but I still think they're a nice reel, especially when they're on sale.

Sounds like they're older ones, then. It'll be interesting to see if you have many of the newer ones come in.

jeb2 reply :

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I lay my left thumb on top of the reel. My index finger wraps around the front of the reel. And mt 3rd, 4th and 5th fingers are under the reel seat.
On some reels, the pawl cap is very exposed and rubs back and forth across my index finger when cranking. This doens't happen on any Daiwa reel I have. I can wrap my finger around the front of them and never touch the pawl cap. On the Curado I can feel it a bit. But on the Revo, I can really feel the pawl cap moving. That's a very irritating to me.

thats exectly what i'm talking about

Interesting. I never notice that, so I guess I hold my reels differently.

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