Will Loomis? 2024
burleytog reply :
Ever step into the 21st century with their rod design? Will we ever see a nice sleek looking rod from them?
LakeAnnaBasser reply :
I was thinkin the same thing. At least make them look as good as they perform.
Pigsticker reply :
I was just thinking about that... looking at their glx rods, 450bucks for an everyday looking rod :-? shouldn't they at least make it look like the newer much cheaper carrot sticks,dobyns,etc. etc. :-/
The_Natural reply :
No. I think they feel 'if it ain't broke...don't fix it'. I also want to see a contemporary GLX, but I think their customer base is mainly old school folks whom like a full cork grip.
Bassn Blvd reply :
But then again, when will the OTHER rod manufacturers stop trying to impress the consumer with pretty colors and wraps and concentrate on building a GREAT rod like the Loomis.
Better yet, I'll build you a Loomis with a custom Diamond or chevron wrap. I'll even weave the American flag or fish for ya but you're gonna pay more than 400 for it.
burleytog reply :
QuoteBut then again, when will the OTHER rod manufacturers stop trying to impress the consumer with pretty colors and wraps and concentrate on building a GREAT rod like the Loomis.
For my money, it if has a foregrip, it isn't a great rod. :-/
Bassn Blvd reply :
Peel the cork off then.
roadwarrior reply :
QuoteNo. I think they feel 'if it ain't broke...don't fix it'. I also want to see a contemporary GLX, but I think their customer base is mainly old school folks whom like a full cork grip.
I completely agree, but I am still surprised that they don't have an option for that market segment.
8-)
flechero reply :
Burley, just step up and have a rod built on a Loomis blank. It's not that much more expensive and you'll have a rod that even you can't complain about! ;D
Rewind things 12-18 months and there were like 4 rods made with split grips and 2 of them were JDM rods. Loomis was cutting edge for years... now there is a big corporate parent to reign in the spontaneity. I'm sure you will see it, just not on the front end of this craze.
dodgeguy reply :
i like full grips.i think these new designs are just a fad.not having cork behind the reel makes it slightly more tip heavy which is a negative in my book.
Aaron reply :
I like em just the way they are.
I personally do not like the split grip for my casting rods, but I think I might like a spinning rod with the split grip.
mattm reply :
I've heard from a guy that is sponsored by them that they feel split, zero foregrip rods are a fad, and that their sales aren't hurting so they aren't going to pursue it.
Raul reply :
QuoteEver step into the 21st century with their rod design? Will we ever see a nice sleek looking rod from them?
They haven 't hired me to design the rods. 
Jimzee reply :
QuoteEver step into the 21st century with their rod design? Will we ever see a nice sleek looking rod from them?
If they do, I will be one of the first in line for them. On second thought, I think I would rather have one custom built on a GLX blank.
5bass reply :
I'm not a big fan of the split rear grip on casting rods either but I do have a few. Loomis should at least lose the foregrip cork on some rods.
Tokyo Tony reply :
I think the GLX is the most beautiful rod on the market.
Bass Pro reply :
I doubt it because they offer their blanks for custom built rods. However, I think we might see something different down the road. But I don't think it will be on the GLX lineup. They will probably do a split grip or something on the mossyback, crankbait or spinnerbait rods.
Personally, I think they should do one of two things.. Either A, offer all their blanks to the custom rod builder. Or B, allow the buyer to select the type of grip, guides, etc of the rod.
djmax22 reply :
What is wrong with their rods now? I like the full grips better than the split grips. Cork does seem to get beat up over time so maybe offer a foam grip???
Still the best worm/jig rods I have ever used.
Micropterus salmoides reply :
It would be cool if they had an enthusiast line with split grip, no fore grip, etc.
I would rather have them get rid of the recoil guides and use Fuji titanium framed SiC guides.
Redlinerobert reply :
GLX blanks with Megabass finishes, I'd be all over that!
Pencil Pusher reply :
I hope NOT.
avid reply :
QuoteI've heard from a guy that is sponsored by them that they feel split, zero foregrip rods are a fad, and that their sales aren't hurting so they aren't going to pursue it.
I think this pretty much says it all. They make a great rod, loved by millions. So why change? There is something to be said for a "company philosophy" that is consistent throughout their designs. It makes it easy for repeat customers to assume the feel and action of the rod without having to buy it first or try one out before purchasing.
Of course if sales drop......well then all bets are off.
flechero reply :
Loomis became great by addressing the market proactively not reactively. Fiberglass and low modulous graphite rods were catching fish just fine from the early 1900's until the 1980's. I don't think current ownership will allow much risk taking with the brand name.
Raul reply :
QuoteGLX blanks with Megabass finishes, I'd be all over that!
Has Dennis shown you one of his custom builts ? next time you meet with him ask him to bring that rod Matt had built for him.
Chad. reply :
Dennis a.k.a. Cal is ballin how much rods/ reels does he have?
Raul reply :
QuoteDennis a.k.a. Cal is ballin how much rods/ reels does he have?
For what I remember, Dennis has all the collection of Custom TDZs in his power, that makes at least 9 custom TDZs, has at least one of each limited edition Pixys so that would make 3 ( 3 colors ), has at least one TDZ Type R, at least one TDZ Type R+, at least one Alphas 103, at least 1 Alphas Itö, at least 1 TD Itö and so on, every single Megabass, Evergreen, Palms rod reviewed on TT is his property.
How many rods and reels Dennis has ? haven 't got the slighest clue. :-? But no problem, I can ask him.
Chad. reply :
QuoteQuoteDennis a.k.a. Cal is ballin how much rods/ reels does he have?For what I remember, Dennis has all the collection of Custom TDZs in his power, that makes at least 9 custom TDZs, has at least one of each limited edition Pixys so that would make 3 ( 3 colors ), has at least one TDZ Type R, at least one TDZ Type R+, at least one Alphas 103, at least 1 Alphas Itö, at least 1 TD Itö and so on, every single Megabass, Evergreen, Palms rod reviewed on TT is his property.
How many rods and reels Dennis has ? haven 't got the slighest clue. :-? But no problem, I can ask him.
Yeah im chadv2 on tt, but i don't like their forum very much :-X
Lucky Craft Man reply :
Message to G Loomis:
To Whom It May Concern,
Please do not alter your design (especially changing to Split Grips). Your products have outperformed the competition for a long time (and continue to do so). Please don't stoop to the level of other manufacturers who feel they need to alter the way their rods look in order to sell products (which I guess is a way to make up for their lacking in performance). I own 20+ rods manufactured by your company and I could not be more pleased (though, I think you missed the boat a little when designing the Frog Rod). Thanks again for producing such fine products and for increasing my enjoyment while on the water.
PS I hope you continue to have the Xpeditor Warranty Service long into the future, which is another reason I purchase your rods.
burleytog reply :
QuotePlease don't stoop to the level of other manufacturers who feel they need to alter the way their rods look in order to sell products (which I guess is a way to make up for their lacking in performance).
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Lucky Craft Man reply :
QuoteQuotePlease don't stoop to the level of other manufacturers who feel they need to alter the way their rods look in order to sell products (which I guess is a way to make up for their lacking in performance).:
I thought you would enjoy that one.
Bass Pro reply :
Just some food for thought...
It's a little known fact that back in the '90's, Loomis went to a sprial wrapped guide design. But sales took a sharp drop as most customers didn't know what the heck it was. So, they went back to conventional designs.
dantatro49 reply :
QuoteI doubt it because they offer their blanks for custom built rods. However, I think we might see something different down the road. But I don't think it will be on the GLX lineup. They will probably do a split grip or something on the mossyback, crankbait or spinnerbait rods.Personally, I think they should do one of two things.. Either A, offer all their blanks to the custom rod builder. Or B, allow the buyer to select the type of grip, guides, etc of the rod.
They do offer there blanks to the custom rod builders.
The whole split grip design isn't about looking cool it is for better senceitvity. If your rod feels to tip heavy you just need to balance your rod by putting some weight in the back of the blank.
Bass Pro reply :
QuoteQuoteI doubt it because they offer their blanks for custom built rods. However, I think we might see something different down the road. But I don't think it will be on the GLX lineup. They will probably do a split grip or something on the mossyback, crankbait or spinnerbait rods.Personally, I think they should do one of two things.. Either A, offer all their blanks to the custom rod builder. Or B, allow the buyer to select the type of grip, guides, etc of the rod.
They do offer there blanks to the custom rod builders.
The whole split grip design isn't about looking cool it is for better senceitvity. If your rod feels to tip heavy you just need to balance your rod by putting some weight in the back of the blank.
They only offer SOME of their blanks to custom rod builders. You can't get the BCR GLX blanks and a host of others.
Like I said, I think they should offer all their blanks or either offer the customer his/her choice of grips and components on the rod.
Chad. reply :
QuoteQuoteI doubt it because they offer their blanks for custom built rods. However, I think we might see something different down the road. But I don't think it will be on the GLX lineup. They will probably do a split grip or something on the mossyback, crankbait or spinnerbait rods.Personally, I think they should do one of two things.. Either A, offer all their blanks to the custom rod builder. Or B, allow the buyer to select the type of grip, guides, etc of the rod.
They do offer there blanks to the custom rod builders.
The whole split grip design isn't about looking cool it is for better senceitvity. If your rod feels to tip heavy you just need to balance your rod by putting some weight in the back of the blank.
I guarantee you the same rod with split grip and non split grip in your hands you cant tell the difference in sensitivity don't fool your self buddy :-X :
dantatro49 reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteI doubt it because they offer their blanks for custom built rods. However, I think we might see something different down the road. But I don't think it will be on the GLX lineup. They will probably do a split grip or something on the mossyback, crankbait or spinnerbait rods.Personally, I think they should do one of two things.. Either A, offer all their blanks to the custom rod builder. Or B, allow the buyer to select the type of grip, guides, etc of the rod.
They do offer there blanks to the custom rod builders.
The whole split grip design isn't about looking cool it is for better senceitvity. If your rod feels to tip heavy you just need to balance your rod by putting some weight in the back of the blank.
I guarantee you the same rod with split grip and non split grip in your hands you cant tell the difference in sensitivity don't fool your self buddy :-X :
Well I own both split grip and full grip rods and there is a difference its not a huge difference. So don't fool yourself buddy.
Chad. reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI doubt it because they offer their blanks for custom built rods. However, I think we might see something different down the road. But I don't think it will be on the GLX lineup. They will probably do a split grip or something on the mossyback, crankbait or spinnerbait rods.Personally, I think they should do one of two things.. Either A, offer all their blanks to the custom rod builder. Or B, allow the buyer to select the type of grip, guides, etc of the rod.
They do offer there blanks to the custom rod builders.
The whole split grip design isn't about looking cool it is for better senceitvity. If your rod feels to tip heavy you just need to balance your rod by putting some weight in the back of the blank.
I guarantee you the same rod with split grip and non split grip in your hands you cant tell the difference in sensitivity don't fool your self buddy :-X :
Well I own both split grip and full grip rods and there is a difference its not a huge difference. So don't fool yourself buddy.
So do I and rod builders have clamied it makes no difference they use split grip to save on cork cost, and because customers fell it's m0ore comfortable. In fact a full grip balances the rod better which a balanced rod will feel more sensitive Bud, 
dodgeguy reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI doubt it because they offer their blanks for custom built rods. However, I think we might see something different down the road. But I don't think it will be on the GLX lineup. They will probably do a split grip or something on the mossyback, crankbait or spinnerbait rods.Personally, I think they should do one of two things.. Either A, offer all their blanks to the custom rod builder. Or B, allow the buyer to select the type of grip, guides, etc of the rod.
They do offer there blanks to the custom rod builders.
The whole split grip design isn't about looking cool it is for better senceitvity. If your rod feels to tip heavy you just need to balance your rod by putting some weight in the back of the blank.
I guarantee you the same rod with split grip and non split grip in your hands you cant tell the difference in sensitivity don't fool your self buddy :-X :
Well I own both split grip and full grip rods and there is a difference its not a huge difference. So don't fool yourself buddy.
So do I and rod builders have clamied it makes no difference they use split grip to save on cork cost, and because customers fell it's m0ore comfortable. In fact a full grip balances the rod better which a balanced rod will feel more sensitive Bud,
i agree with that last comment %100!!!
TournyFish001 reply :
I think they are amazing just the way they are- on their spinning rods the front cork foregrip is comfy when touching the rod blank with my index finger.
bronzeback01 reply :
i have 3 loomis rods 1 daiwa steez and a st croix legend tournament
and you can keep those fancy split grip rods , sure they look fancy but i'll take my full cork loomis over any of my other rods .
Chad. reply :
I think loomis will stay the way they are until the have real competiton new st.croix????
dantatro49 reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI doubt it because they offer their blanks for custom built rods. However, I think we might see something different down the road. But I don't think it will be on the GLX lineup. They will probably do a split grip or something on the mossyback, crankbait or spinnerbait rods.Personally, I think they should do one of two things.. Either A, offer all their blanks to the custom rod builder. Or B, allow the buyer to select the type of grip, guides, etc of the rod.
They do offer there blanks to the custom rod builders.
The whole split grip design isn't about looking cool it is for better senceitvity. If your rod feels to tip heavy you just need to balance your rod by putting some weight in the back of the blank.
I guarantee you the same rod with split grip and non split grip in your hands you cant tell the difference in sensitivity don't fool your self buddy :-X :
Well I own both split grip and full grip rods and there is a difference its not a huge difference. So don't fool yourself buddy.
So do I and rod builders have clamied it makes no difference they use split grip to save on cork cost, and because customers fell it's m0ore comfortable. In fact a full grip balances the rod better which a balanced rod will feel more sensitive Bud,
The price of cork is peanuts. The are not saving that much maybe few dollars depends on the quality of the cork. The st. croix legend is any where from 220 to 270 so you think they made it a spit grip to save money on cork you are nuts. A company like st. croix or lommis get the cork for pennies. Think what you want.
Chad. reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI doubt it because they offer their blanks for custom built rods. However, I think we might see something different down the road. But I don't think it will be on the GLX lineup. They will probably do a split grip or something on the mossyback, crankbait or spinnerbait rods.Personally, I think they should do one of two things.. Either A, offer all their blanks to the custom rod builder. Or B, allow the buyer to select the type of grip, guides, etc of the rod.
They do offer there blanks to the custom rod builders.
The whole split grip design isn't about looking cool it is for better senceitvity. If your rod feels to tip heavy you just need to balance your rod by putting some weight in the back of the blank.
I guarantee you the same rod with split grip and non split grip in your hands you cant tell the difference in sensitivity don't fool your self buddy :-X :
Well I own both split grip and full grip rods and there is a difference its not a huge difference. So don't fool yourself buddy.
So do I and rod builders have clamied it makes no difference they use split grip to save on cork cost, and because customers fell it's m0ore comfortable. In fact a full grip balances the rod better which a balanced rod will feel more sensitive Bud,
The price of cork is peanuts. The are not saving that much maybe few dollars depends on the quality of the cork. The st. croix legend is any where from 220 to 270 so you think they made it a spit grip to save money on cork you are nuts. A company like st. croix or lommis get the cork for pennies. Think what you want.
I said rod builders, ex reel mech, for top of the line cork after 10 rods you can save some money may not be a lot, but still money saved and st.croix wen't with a split grip because "everyone else is doing it" it's a fad
ArcticCat500 reply :
ok so I jumped on the Loomis bandwagon this year, after never thinking I'd spend more then $200 a single off the shelf rod Im totally pleased with my purchases, and I hope to god they dont lower the quality to make them look pretty....and yes I've owned and still own custom rods......but I love my Loomy's
.RM. reply :
Let me tell you and your friend dantatro49 about cork.QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI doubt it because they offer their blanks for custom built rods. However, I think we might see something different down the road. But I don't think it will be on the GLX lineup. They will probably do a split grip or something on the mossyback, crankbait or spinnerbait rods.Personally, I think they should do one of two things.. Either A, offer all their blanks to the custom rod builder. Or B, allow the buyer to select the type of grip, guides, etc of the rod.
They do offer there blanks to the custom rod builders.
The whole split grip design isn't about looking cool it is for better senceitvity. If your rod feels to tip heavy you just need to balance your rod by putting some weight in the back of the blank.
I guarantee you the same rod with split grip and non split grip in your hands you cant tell the difference in sensitivity don't fool your self buddy :-X :
Well I own both split grip and full grip rods and there is a difference its not a huge difference. So don't fool yourself buddy.
So do I and rod builders have clamied it makes no difference they use split grip to save on cork cost, and because customers fell it's m0ore comfortable. In fact a full grip balances the rod better which a balanced rod will feel more sensitive Bud,
The price of cork is peanuts. The are not saving that much maybe few dollars depends on the quality of the cork. The st. croix legend is any where from 220 to 270 so you think they made it a spit grip to save money on cork you are nuts. A company like st. croix or lommis get the cork for pennies. Think what you want.
I said rod builders, ex reel mech, for top of the line cork after 10 rods you can save some money may not be a lot, but still money saved and st.croix wen't with a split grip because "everyone else is doing it" it's a fad
It is getting hard to find. The best of cork these days is going into wine bottles and flooring.
Big rod companies aren't trying to save on cork cost or supplies, but on the overall weight and balance of the rod.
I don't use cork, I use a burl that is man made and produced here in the US. It is more dense than cork and helps me with the ability to balance the rods I make a lot easier.
Just my .02¢ from my rod bench..
Tight Lines!!!!
Chad. reply :
I got my info from matt at otterods.
dantatro49 reply :
thats what I have been trying to say reel mechanic.
The_Natural reply :
Man...some serious quoting goin' on! I just remembered a few people on Tackle Tour stated there was someone that was building split grip glx's with black foam, aluminum winding checks, and the works. They supposedly had the JDM appeal. I'd love to see a pic of one of these rods. We internet conassuires love a search challenge...who can produce a pic and win the prize? (maybe I'll send you a couple of jigs or something just for the hell of it)
dantatro49 reply :
this is what I found
http://www.tackletour.com/reviewicast2008gloomis.html
The_Natural reply :
Quotethis is what I foundhttp://www.tackletour.com/reviewicast2008gloomis.html
Yep...hence the point of our discussion; nothing nothing new and exciting from the Loomis camp. Now lets see if someone finds pics of these JDM inspired GLX's...
5bass reply :
QuoteMan...some serious quoting goin' on!
You aint lyin'.....
dantatro49 reply :
QuoteQuotethis is what I foundhttp://www.tackletour.com/reviewicast2008gloomis.html
Yep...hence the point of our discussion; nothing nothing new and exciting from the Loomis camp. Now lets see if someone finds pics of these JDM inspired GLX's...
From what I found they don't exist I looked at alot of info and couldnt find anything if you have any luck let us know I like to see them.
Raul reply :
QuoteMan...some serious quoting goin' on!
No s*t ? :-?
QuoteI just remembered a few people on Tackle Tour stated there was someone that was building split grip glx's with black foam, aluminum winding checks, and the works. They supposedly had the JDM appeal. I'd love to see a pic of one of these rods. We internet conassuires love a search challenge...who can produce a pic and win the prize? (maybe I'll send you a couple of jigs or something just for the hell of it)
There you go:
Chad. reply :
Now where the drool smiley, I will own a rod like that one day glx and jdm look makes for a dynamic duo.
Raul reply :
QuoteNow where the drool smiley
Here 's one:
dodgeguy reply :
hate the foam.looks like an ugly stick!!! ;D
billbrum reply :
Quotehate the foam.looks like an ugly stick!!! ;D
Looks like syncork to me. :
Chad. reply :
QuoteQuotehate the foam.looks like an ugly stick!!! ;DLooks like syncork to me. :
I think it was a poke instead of a serious statement.
billbrum reply :
QuoteQuoteQuotehate the foam.looks like an ugly stick!!! ;DLooks like syncork to me. :
I think it was a poke instead of a serious statement.
So was mine.
Chad. reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotehate the foam.looks like an ugly stick!!! ;DLooks like syncork to me. :
I think it was a poke instead of a serious statement.
So was mine.
K with the roll eyes it makes it difficult to tell
billbrum reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotehate the foam.looks like an ugly stick!!! ;DLooks like syncork to me. :
I think it was a poke instead of a serious statement.
So was mine.
K with the roll eyes it makes it difficult to tell
Not a problem Chad.
Just don't take most of what I say serious. I am a very laid back guy.
Chad. reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotehate the foam.looks like an ugly stick!!! ;DLooks like syncork to me. :
I think it was a poke instead of a serious statement.
So was mine.
K with the roll eyes it makes it difficult to tell
Not a problem Chad.
Just don't take most of what I say serious. I am a very laid back guy.
Makes 2 of us
Hookemdown. reply :
STOP THE QUOTING MADNESS!!!
;D
mike bat reply :
you guys COME ON ,,, they will never have a split grip ... if you want a loomis with a split grip you better have one made ... deal with it .. ;D
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