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Shimano Metanium Dc Reel - Initial Review / Impressions 2024


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 

NOTE: Some of the text and photos below were originally posted in the “Show off your Stuff” thread; it is being re-posted here to support this review.

 

Introduction:

 

I ordered a Metanium DC from Japan Lure Shop on February 16 and received it on February 20;  four days from the time I ordered until it was at my door in rural Tennessee – pretty good shipping time.  Spooled it up, put it on a rod, learned how to set it up, and didn't do much else with it for a couple weeks due to hard water and ice storms.

 

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Met DC has the same open-ended knobs as the Conquest14 - some folks like 'em, some don't:

 

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Reel Set-Up:

 

To set up the reel - select the "OPEN" position on the external dial on the bottom of the sideplate and then thumb over the sideplate latch (located to the rear of the dial):

 

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With the sideplate removed, select your line type from the dial visible on the top edge of the sideplate: N = nylon, F = flouro, PE = braid:

 

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While the sideplate is off you can see the I-DC5 control module. :

 

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End of spool shaft with several grooves milled in the length. The control module (when installed) extends quite a way into the recess in the spool:

 

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Re-install the sideplate and adjust the external dial to match the weight of your bait. There are 5 positions: 1, 2, 3, 4, and A (auto):

 

1 = 18 - 30 grams

2 = 10 - 20 grams

3 = 8 - 12 grams

4 = 5 - 8 grams

A = 7 - 30 grams

 

The AUTO position will provide adequate braking for that wide range of baits (1/4 to 1 oz), but selection of one of the numbered brake positions will give a more optimum braking profile.

 

I selected position two (~ 3/8 to between 5/8 and 3/4 oz):

 

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And the AUTO position:

 

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On-The-Water Impressions:

 

We finally got our ice storms behind us and had an ice-out here a couple days ago so I finally got the Met DC on the water.    This reel is the basic model with a 6.2:1 gear ratio; it is out-of-the box stock, no spool bearing flushing or any other tinkering.
 
The reel handles and feels the same as the regular Met.  If you were blindfolded, you wouldn’t know which version you were using on the RETRIEVE. However on the CAST, you immediately know what you’ve got….the musical “DC whine” is there… :thumbsup:
 
The I-DC5 braking system on this reel is not a max range system like what you can get with the appropriate settings on the 4x8 DC system on the Calais DC. Instead, the braking system is optimized to give you practical, effective cast lengths, under varying wind conditions.  As mentioned in the set-up section above, there are only 5 adjustment settings with this DC system – none of them are labeled as a “long range” setting.  You either select the numeric value that corresponds to the weight of your bait, or select the AUTO position that covers a wide range of baits. The only remaining adjustment you have is spool tension. So, how does this work on the water?
 
For a test bait, I selected the easy to toss ½ ounce Red Eye Shad.  I set the reel to setting number 2 to match the bait, set minimal spool tension, and wailed on the rod with the first cast.  Good distance, as good as many of my BC reels, but not as far as the Calais DC could do with conservative settings.  No line fluff on the spool, a perfectly braked, practical cast; no thumb used except to stop the spool when the bait hit the water.  I made numerous casts at setting 2 with varying casting strokes, still couldn't make it backlash.  There was only about a 10mph breeze, but I cast directly into that – no worries.
 
After working with setting number 2, I started experimenting with the other settings.  Setting number 4 gave the most braking and could be considered a max wind setting for this weight bait.  Number 3 was somewhat less braking than 4, number 2 was optimum.  Setting 1 gave added distance compared to setting 2, but with quite a bit of line fluff.  So, for practical purposes, setting 1 might be considered a de-facto long-range setting for this bait – with the proviso that you might have to manage the cast (thumbing), and if tossing directly into a good wind, you might not have enough braking.  The AUTO position seems to provide braking that falls between setting 3 and 4.  So, AUTO might cost you some range compared to setting the numeric value for your bait weight, but if you are mostly doing short-range work it will be a handy setting when continually swapping baits of varying weights or perhaps when dealing with varying wind conditions.
 
 
Summary:
 
So, what do we have here? An excellent, general purpose reel; providing practical, controlled casts, with little to no operator input. Not an extreme long-range reel, but good for most other purposes.  I’m thinking my application for this reel may end up being for spinnerbaits – those pesky baits that when they “helicopter” you often end up in backlash city.
 
 
Goose’s Approval Rating:
 
Surface water temp this morning was 39 degrees. I did catch two bass with the standard Metanium tossing a plastic craw, but NO score for the Met DC tossing the lipless crank. So, I cannot at this time give the Met DC my ultimate approval rating of “seems to work, reels in fish”!   I'll update this post after I catch a fish with the reel to give it the final stamp of approval...   :lol:
 
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fishing user avatarWar Eagle 44 reply : 

Nice review, thanks.


fishing user avatarDelcoSol reply : 

Nice write up Goose. I have the same one on the way. For now it's goine on my NRX803 for my dock skipping, light jigs and T-rigs. How well do you think the DC will help with the backlashes while skipping? I have a Conquest for my crankbait rod but if I do not like it the Metanium DC will go on that. I have a Metanium XG for my main jig rod but never cast with it, just pitch and flip. I can't wait to see how well this thing can cast. 


fishing user avatarHogsticker reply : 

Nice write up. Enjoy the whine. I think I'd be a little more stoked if it the a DC system of braking similar to the Excense. That would be one expensive side plate to drop in the drink.


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 

Superior review my Man.

 

I like the looks of both of them.

 

Killer photos too.

 

Tackle Tour who ?

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

Thank you, that was great!

 

 

 

:respect-040:  :respect-040:


fishing user avatarDwight Hottle reply : 
  On 3/9/2015 at 1:03 AM, Hogsticker said:

Nice write up. Enjoy the whine. I think I'd be a little more stoked if it the a DC system of braking similar to the Excense. That would be one expensive side plate to drop in the drink.

 

I agree. But the only time you have to take the side plate off is to choses line type. Ordinarily you would to that prior to or just after spooling up.


fishing user avatarkickerfish1 reply : 

Nice write up and on the water testing! Always a good read!


fishing user avatarMarkH024 reply : 

Excellent review Goose. I would love to add one to the line up. I think ill be getting the new Aldebaran first.


fishing user avatarfisherrw reply : 

Good job one the right up. I'm considering getting one soon.


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 

Goose, you are really good at this. Am I sensing another five year "grind it out test"?

Hootie


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 

Thanks everyone !

 

  On 3/9/2015 at 12:47 AM, DelcoSol said:

Nice write up Goose. I have the same one on the way. For now it's goine on my NRX803 for my dock skipping, light jigs and T-rigs. How well do you think the DC will help with the backlashes while skipping? I have a Conquest for my crankbait rod but if I do not like it the Metanium DC will go on that. I have a Metanium XG for my main jig rod but never cast with it, just pitch and flip. I can't wait to see how well this thing can cast. 

 

I'm not good enough to skip with baitcasting gear so I won't have any personal experience with skipping capability!  Play with the brake settings - perhaps the setting that gives max braking might work...

 

  On 3/9/2015 at 1:07 AM, A-Jay said:

Superior review my Man.

 

I like the looks of both of them.

 

Killer photos too.

 

Tackle Tour who ?

 

A-Jay

 

Thanks Andy!  But trust me - we still need TT... :lol:

 

  On 3/9/2015 at 4:01 AM, *Hootie said:

Goose, you are really good at this. Am I sensing another five year "grind it out test"?

Hootie

 

No way!  I'm now too old to start any more FIVE-year tests. Let someone young, like in their 50s, take on the next five-year test... ;)


fishing user avatarbootytrain reply : 

Nice review Goose! What other DC's do you have?


fishing user avatarWar Eagle 44 reply : 

I own 2 DC reels, the Calais & Calcutta, I haven't picked up any of the newer reels because I've been disappointed in the direction Shimano has gone with the DC unit. I think the 4x8 unit in the Calais is by far the best they've offered. I really like being able to pick the setting that's "right" for me instead of them practically choosing for me. I just feel they limit the newer reels to much in this regard. Otherwise the newer reels are great.  

 

Good luck with your new Metanium and I hope you get many great years of fishing with it. I know I've certainly enjoyed my two, especially the original DC, the Calcutta TE DC.


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/9/2015 at 11:23 AM, bootytrain said:

Nice review Goose! What other DC's do you have?

CTE-100DC

Calais DC


fishing user avatarbootytrain reply : 
  On 3/9/2015 at 11:37 AM, War Eagle 44 said:

I own 2 DC reels, the Calais & Calcutta, I haven't picked up any of the newer reels because I've been disappointed in the direction Shimano has gone with the DC unit. I think the 4x8 unit in the Calais is by far the best they've offered. I really like being able to pick the setting that's "right" for me instead of them practically choosing for me. I just feel they limit the newer reels to much in this regard. Otherwise the newer reels are great.  

 

Good luck with your new Metanium and I hope you get many great years of fishing with it. I know I've certainly enjoyed my two, especially the original DC, the Calcutta TE DC.

Yeah, I think Shimano purposely didn't surpass the 4x8 DC system in the lower models because they need the best unit in the flagship model. I think you would like the Exsence DC. They didn't neuter it as much as the other DC offerings.


fishing user avatarMaico1 reply : 

G,

   Thanks for your review on the new Met DC. I for one was waiting to see what this reel would produce in the distance category and came up somewhat disheartened. Since I am a DC fan owning the Calais DC 4X8,Calcutta DC,Conquest DC+ and Conquest IDC4, I was hoping the new Met DC would perform it that category. When you take into consideration the spool rpm's alone that are created by a DC equipped reel it sort of contradicts the purpose of it. Why rev it up just to shut it down and not use it to the fullest potential that it creates . Now I realize there is a market out there for users other than just distance but to some degree you would think by now they could have improved upon their best performer which was born in 2006 the 4X8. This is not to say I do not enjoy using the other models I own however I for one was once again hoping to see a different result.


fishing user avatarHogsticker reply : 
  On 3/9/2015 at 1:13 AM, Dwight Hottle said:

I agree. But the only time you have to take the side plate off is to choses line type. Ordinarily you would to that prior to or just after spooling up.

Very true!


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/9/2015 at 2:26 PM, bootytrain said:

Yeah, I think Shimano purposely didn't surpass the 4x8 DC system in the lower models because they need the best unit in the flagship model. I think you would like the Exsence DC. They didn't neuter it as much as the other DC offerings.

 

Sure. For all we know there is a 2015 or 2016 Antares DC on the way with something even better than the 4x8 DC system.  Bantam1 even hinted at that possibility over on TT.

 

  On 3/9/2015 at 8:47 PM, Maico1 said:

G,

   Thanks for your review on the new Met DC. I for one was waiting to see what this reel would produce in the distance category and came up somewhat disheartened. Since I am a DC fan owning the Calais DC 4X8,Calcutta DC,Conquest DC+ and Conquest IDC4, I was hoping the new Met DC would perform it that category. When you take into consideration the spool rpm's alone that are created by a DC equipped reel it sort of contradicts the purpose of it. Why rev it up just to shut it down and not use it to the fullest potential that it creates . Now I realize there is a market out there for users other than just distance but to some degree you would think by now they could have improved upon their best performer which was born in 2006 the 4X8. This is not to say I do not enjoy using the other models I own however I for one was once again hoping to see a different result.

 

For sure, this reel won't match a Calais DC (or even the new Antares) on distance...but as I said in my report, it DOES match many of my other BC reels in distance. It might even keep up with my CTE-100DC.  But very long-range casting capability represents a relatively small slice of the overall performance needs for all the varying presentations. Sure, the Calais has 32 possible settings, but I think Shimano engineered the Met DC for those that want something simpler to use and that gives effective casts that address the majority of presentations, 

 

I have lots of tools in the box so I can use the right tool for the right job, so for me the Met DC is a nifty tool.  For others, if very long-range casting performance (and in some cases the capability to outcast your hooksetting range) is important, then this might not be the tool for the job.


fishing user avatarDarren. reply : 

Excellent review, Goose. Those are sweet reels.


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 

Thanks Darren !


fishing user avatarDelcoSol reply : 

I got mine and have only casted it in the yard and have mixed feelings about it. This is the first DC reel I have used and I guess I was expecting a little more. I have mine on an 803NRX with 12# Abrazx casting a 3/8 jig. I have adjusted the brakes on every setting and still seem to get bad backlashes if doing a harder cast. If I do an easier cast is seems fine but I get no distance. Pitching it seems to do great but just regular roll casting seems to be hit or miss. 


fishing user avatarJohn G reply : 
  On 3/22/2015 at 10:35 PM, DelcoSol said:

I got mine and have only casted it in the yard and have mixed feelings about it. This is the first DC reel I have used and I guess I was expecting a little more. I have mine on an 803NRX with 12# Abrazx casting a 3/8 jig. I have adjusted the brakes on every setting and still seem to get bad backlashes if doing a harder cast. If I do an easier cast is seems fine but I get no distance. Pitching it seems to do great but just regular roll casting seems to be hit or miss. 

How tight/loose is your cast control knob? Have you tried a different line?


fishing user avatarBassmanDan reply : 

Great job on the review. I feel better about buying the three XG reels at the price I paid...the difference alone paid for a NRX and line. As far as casting goes I have already flew a jig into the neighbors yard without any effort other than some thumbwork. Maybe one day I will spring for the DC system but like I've said before I like to keep the skill of the hands involved..besides a good thumb education is a terrible thing to waste lol.

 

Enjoy your new reel...hope it puts many hawgs in the boat for you.


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 

I've had my Met DC on the water numerous times now, in winds up to 20mph.  Had it in the boat today.  I can't make mine backlash.  I'm still tossing a 1/2oz RES which does cast well into wind.  I use the #2 setting most of the time, but if the wind is still or I have the wind at my back I can use setting #1 and get more distance.  The reel has "loosened" up some since the first report and I'm getting about all the distance I can use and still get a good hookset with the 12lb mono that's on the reel right now.

 

The casts are effortless, I don't have to worry about backlash, and I can use any casting stroke from a light toss to just wailing on the rod on the cast.

 

Great reel.  BUT, I still have to catch a bass with it before I can give it my highest approval rating.  I did catch an 8" bluegill with it the other day but since this isn't the "Bluegill Resource" board...I didn't bother to post a photo... :lol:


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 3/23/2015 at 6:51 AM, Goose52 said:

I've had my Met DC on the water numerous times now, in winds up to 20mph.  Had it in the boat today.  I can't make mine backlash.  I'm still tossing a 1/2oz RES which does cast well into wind.  I use the #2 setting most of the time, but if the wind is still or I have the wind at my back I can use setting #1 and get more distance.  The reel has "loosened" up some since the first report and I'm getting about all the distance I can use and still get a good hookset with the 12lb mono that's on the reel right now.

 

The casts are effortless, I don't have to worry about backlash, and I can use any casting stroke from a light toss to just wailing on the rod on the cast.

 

Great reel.  BUT, I still have to catch a bass with it before I can give it my highest approval rating.  I did catch an 8" bluegill with it the other day but since this isn't the "Bluegill Resource" board...I didn't bother to post a photo... :lol:

 

Hey Pal, Picture or it didn't happen . . . . .

 

:eyebrows:

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/23/2015 at 9:42 AM, A-Jay said:

Hey Pal, Picture or it didn't happen . . . . .

 

:eyebrows:

 

A-Jay

As soon as I put that brim back in the water, I realized that I should have got a photo........! :lol:


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 3/23/2015 at 10:32 AM, Goose52 said:

As soon as I put that brim back in the water, I realized that I should have got a photo........! :lol:

 

Nah ~ You're got a Respected Solid Rep - you're good.

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/23/2015 at 10:48 AM, A-Jay said:

Nah ~ You're got a Respected Solid Rep - you're good.

 

A-Jay

 

Up until today, the Met DC had only managed to reel in an 8" bluegill - thanks A-Jay for giving me credit for that monster on the "honor system" ;)

 

I've had this reel on the water quite a bit, both from the bank and in the boat. Today, while out in the boat, I finally cut off the lipless crank and tied on a snap so I could start tossing various crankbaits. I normally don't use a reel with this IPT for cranking but by golly I wanted to catch some bass with it.

 

Lipless cranks are very easy to toss; crankbaits can be a bit tougher.  Also, the wind today was 10mph steady with gusts to 20mph so the reel got a bit better test for casting ability in wind.  On setting 2, in moderate wind, I had no real issues tossing crankbaits from 3/8oz to 5/8oz.  If I was tossing directly into those 20mph gusts, I selected setting 3 with good results. If the wind was still or at my back, setting 1 gave max range.

 

I did finally have my first backlash today. I was making a quick cast with a Wiggle Wart and sorta short-stroked the cast, the rod didn't load, and the bait just sort of fluttered downrange with no real velocity...JUST as one of the strong wind gusts popped up. Backlash, but easily cleared.

 

The reel continues to be an all-around performer and a delight to use. Too bad they don't offer it in a lower gear ratio more suitable for cranking. I still haven't tossed any spinnerbaits with it which, in the wind, would be a pretty good test of the reels wind-bucking abilities.

 

Oh, the Met DC reeled in three bass today so I can FINALLY give the reel my ultimate approval rating - SEEMS TO WORK, REELS IN FISH... :lol:

 

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fishing user avatarbootytrain reply : 
  On 3/26/2015 at 6:53 AM, Goose52 said:

Up until today, the Met DC had only managed to reel in an 8" bluegill - thanks A-Jay for giving me credit for that monster on the "honor system" ;)

 

I've had this reel on the water quite a bit, both from the bank and in the boat. Today, while out in the boat, I finally cut off the lipless crank and tied on a snap so I could start tossing various crankbaits. I normally don't use a reel with this IPT for cranking but by golly I wanted to catch some bass with it.

 

Lipless cranks are very easy to toss; crankbaits can be a bit tougher.  Also, the wind today was 10mph steady with gusts to 20mph so the reel got a bit better test for casting ability in wind.  On setting 2, in moderate wind, I had no real issues tossing crankbaits from 3/8oz to 5/8oz.  If I was tossing directly into those 20mph gusts, I selected setting 3 with good results. If the wind was still or at my back, setting 1 gave max range.

 

I did finally have my first backlash today. I was making a quick cast with a Wiggle Wart and sorta short-stroked the cast, the rod didn't load, and the bait just sort of fluttered downrange with no real velocity...JUST as one of the strong wind gusts popped up. Backlash, but easily cleared.

 

The reel continues to be an all-around performer and a delight to use. Too bad they don't offer it in a lower gear ratio more suitable for cranking. I still haven't tossed any spinnerbaits with it which, in the wind, would be a pretty good test of the reels wind-bucking abilities.

 

Oh, the Met DC reeled in three bass today so I can FINALLY give the reel my ultimate approval rating - SEEMS TO WORK, REELS IN FISH... :lol:

 

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Sweet bass! Was this caught on the resort lakes?
fishing user avatarDwight Hottle reply : 

Nice bass Goose. I'm still trying to figure out how all your bass have such green backs & perfect white bellies. Really beautiful fish & never a mark on them except for your tag. I guess you never ever catch any ugly ones.


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/26/2015 at 6:57 AM, bootytrain said:

Sweet bass! Was this caught on the resort lakes?

 

From one of my neighborhood lakes - yes. (When you live here, it's just a neighborhood...we don't think of it as a resort... :lol:)

 

  On 3/26/2015 at 7:05 AM, Dwight Hottle said:

Nice bass Goose. I'm still trying to figure out how all your bass have such green backs & perfect white bellies. Really beautiful fish & never a mark on them except for your tag. I guess you never ever catch any ugly ones.

 

Thanks Dwight.  Most of the bass here in my lakes have that classic LMB color scheme. I've never caught a bass here in TN that has that very dark green/black color like what I used to catch when I lived in Florida.  We DO have ugly bass here - stunted, black marks, malformed, etc....but those usually don't warrant posting on the board unless the thread deals with "skinniest or ugliest bass" and I've posted some of those.

 

This PARTICULAR bass REALLY was just a beautiful fish. I didn't realize until I got home that the photo was being shot from the belly of the fish towards the top. I should have stood directly over the bass to get a better profile shot.  This lake is one where I'm tagging and by the time I get length, weight, and then tag it, I'm running out of time for good photos.  Anyway, it just had to be one of the nicest, healthiest looking fish that I've caught since last summer.


fishing user avatarkickerfish1 reply : 

Great follow up on this product Goose! If I had my way you would be the offiical review source for all new products. After reading said review I always feel like I have a much better grasp on the product being reviewed. And to top things off the ultimate approval rating just seals the deal!

Please continue posting such reviews as time, money, health, and weather allow...


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/26/2015 at 10:07 AM, kickerfish1 said:

Great follow up on this product Goose! If I had my way you would be the offiical review source for all new products. After reading said review I always feel like I have a much better grasp on the product being reviewed. And to top things off the ultimate approval rating just seals the deal!

Please continue posting such reviews as time, money, health, and weather allow...

 

Thanks for the kind words.  I'm able to fish (nearly) every day so I have the opportunity to put some time-on-water on the new gear.

 

I'm not planning on getting much else this year (except perhaps the high-speed Conquest due in May) so there shouldn't be any more reviews for a while.


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/26/2015 at 6:53 AM, Goose52 said:

I still haven't tossed any spinnerbaits with it (the Met DC) which, in the wind, would be a pretty good test of the reels wind-bucking abilities.

 

OK, it was a nice windy day today so I pulled the Met DC off of the MH-Mod rod and put it on a 6'10" MH-XF rod - the ubiquitous "spinnerbait" rod.  Tied on a 1/4oz Booyah spinnerbait (actual weight about 5/8oz) and headed for a lake.  The wind was running directly towards the bank - at least 15mph steady - some gusts well over 20mph.  Had the reel on brake setting #2 and cast directly into the steady wind - good distance considering the headwind, and just a little line fluff on the spool.  Kept casting into the steady wind and worked down the bank.  Got a bit cocky and heaved the spinnerbait out there in the middle of one of the gusts. Backlash - but not bad.  Humbled, I selected brake setting #3. NO worries then, cast directly into the gusts and minimal to no line fluff on the spool. Not much distance between the headwind and the braking profile, but still totally usable distance for most spinnerbait purposes from a boat.

 

Kept working down the bank, hoping to get a fish for a photo op. Then on one cast, the thump-thump-thump feedback was gone. Reeled in and found the top willowleaf blade on the spinnerbait missing so that ended the spinnerbait test but gave me a chance for a photo showing the bait and the wind condition on the water.

 

I think I've given this reel a pretty good shakedown now.  Nice reel, great performance, reels in fish.  Works for me... :thumbsup:

 

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fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 3/28/2015 at 6:49 AM, Goose52 said:

OK, it was a nice windy day today so I pulled the Met DC off of the MH-Mod rod and put it on a 6'10" MH-XF rod - the ubiquitous "spinnerbait" rod.  Tied on a 1/4oz Booyah spinnerbait (actual weight about 5/8oz) and headed for a lake.  The wind was running directly towards the bank - at least 15mph steady - some gusts well over 20mph.  Had the reel on brake setting #2 and cast directly into the steady wind - good distance considering the headwind, and just a little line fluff on the spool.  Kept casting into the steady wind and worked down the bank.  Got a bit cocky and heaved the spinnerbait out there in the middle of one of the gusts. Backlash - but not bad.  Humbled, I selected brake setting #3. NO worries then, cast directly into the gusts and minimal to no line fluff on the spool. Not much distance between the headwind and the braking profile, but still totally usable distance for most spinnerbait purposes from a boat.

 

Kept working down the bank, hoping to get a fish for a photo op. Then on one cast, the thump-thump-thump feedback was gone. Reeled in and found the top willowleaf blade on the spinnerbait missing so that ended the spinnerbait test but gave me a chance for a photo showing the bait and the wind condition on the water.

 

I think I've given this reel a pretty good shakedown now.  Nice reel, great performance, reels in fish.  Works for me... :thumbsup:

 

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Excellent  Goose ~

 

Wrap it up, I'll take it.

 

:eyebrows:

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/28/2015 at 7:03 AM, A-Jay said:

Excellent  Goose ~

 

Wrap it up, I'll take it.

 

:eyebrows:

 

A-Jay

 

Andy - I'm starting to loose track...but I think this would be the 4th entry in my will for you, after the Morrum, Conquest 100, and Calcutta TE-100GT ;)


fishing user avatarDwight Hottle reply : 
  On 3/28/2015 at 7:31 AM, Goose52 said:

Andy - I'm starting to loose track...but I think this would be the 4th entry in my will for you, after the Morrum, Conquest 100, and Calcutta TE-100GT ;)

.

Goose your intruding into my space. I had him down for a Calais DC , Conquest 100 & Conquest 50.


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/28/2015 at 8:40 AM, Dwight Hottle said:

.

Goose your intruding into my space. I had him down for a Calais DC , Conquest 100 & Conquest 50.

Sounds like Andy is trying to double dip...............

..............................................................................smart man ! :lol:


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 3/28/2015 at 7:31 AM, Goose52 said:

Andy - I'm starting to loose track...but I think this would be the 4th entry in my will for you, after the Morrum, Conquest 100, and Calcutta TE-100GT ;)

 

 

  On 3/28/2015 at 8:40 AM, Dwight Hottle said:

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Goose your intruding into my space. I had him down for a Calais DC , Conquest 100 & Conquest 50.

 

LOL ~ 

 

You guys are The Best -

 

And Just for the record - your book keeping is Perfect !

 

:eyebrows:

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarHooligan reply : 

Goose, you're killing me. I've wanted one for as long as I've seen it. Now I'm going to have to spend the money...


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/29/2015 at 2:32 PM, Hooligan said:

Goose, you're killing me. I've wanted one for as long as I've seen it. Now I'm going to have to spend the money...

 

It's a nice reel...

 

Where the heck have you been?


fishing user avatarHooligan reply : 

Just extraordinarily busy. I read a lot of the posts, yet, just don't always have the time to post.


fishing user avatarhoosierbass07 reply : 

  Do I understand this right - those reels have a computer chip inside of them?  Are they powered with a battery or something?  And, can you get them wet or a little wet like normal reels?  


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/30/2015 at 7:20 AM, hoosierbass07 said:

  Do I understand this right - those reels have a computer chip inside of them?  Are they powered with a battery or something?  And, can you get them wet or a little wet like normal reels?  

 

Yes - DC stands for digital control.  There is a sensor that monitors spool speed (said to be at 1/1000 sec. intervals) and when the chip determines that braking is necessary it will apply an appropriate amount of braking.  The system allows a higher spool rpm than other braking systems and often you can watch the spool on the cast and see a single coil of loose line on the spool...but no more - the braking applied is that precise.  The power comes from energy generated during the cast (and stored in a capacitor I would guess).  The DC module is sealed and is not affected by the usual moisture that migrates under the sideplate and you can fish with them in the rain.  However, I wouldn't recommend routinely dunking a DC reel in the lake... :lol:   I'll have to admit that I'm winging it here on the method of operation as I haven't read a detailed essay of exactly how the system works.

 

Bantam1, the Shimano Rep over on TT, has reported a number of times that the DC modules are very robust and rarely fail or require service (other than making sure that the sensor is clean and not covered with dust/grime/etc.).

 

It's just another kind of braking system.  Depending on which iteration of the DC system you're looking at, they can give increased distance, less casting effort, more wind-bucking capability, and finer braking adjustments than some other braking systems.  The Shimano Exsence DC even has a mode, intended for fishing at night, that senses spool deceleration and will auto-stop the spool when the bait hits the water (no thumb required).

 

DC braking is nifty stuff, with proven capabilities, but can be a bit spendy...


fishing user avatarhoosierbass07 reply : 

  How come all baitcasters aren't digital controlled now?  The micro technology is there.  I'm surprised only the high end reels offer this and not all the other reels.  Is there a downside to digital controlled baitcasters?  


fishing user avatarHooligan reply : 

I have several first gen Calcutta DCs from eons ago. The DC unit itself has never failed. I've had bearings go bad and other parts lose their luster, but never the DC units.


fishing user avatarDwight Hottle reply : 
  On 3/30/2015 at 7:41 AM, Goose52 said:

Yes - DC stands for digital control. There is a sensor that monitors spool speed (said to be at 1/1000 sec. intervals) and when the chip determines that braking is necessary it will apply an appropriate amount of braking. The system allows a higher spool rpm than other braking systems and often you can watch the spool on the cast and see a single coil of loose line on the spool...but no more - the braking applied is that precise. The power comes from energy generated during the cast (and stored in a capacitor I would guess). The DC module is sealed and is not affected by the usual moisture that migrates under the sideplate and you can fish with them in the rain. However, I wouldn't recommend routinely dunking a DC reel in the lake... :lol: I'll have to admit that I'm winging it here on the method of operation as I haven't read a detailed essay of exactly how the system works.

Bantam1, the Shimano Rep over on TT, has reported a number of times that the DC modules are very robust and rarely fail or require service (other than making sure that the sensor is clean and not covered with dust/grime/etc.).

It's just another kind of braking system. Depending on which iteration of the DC system you're looking at, they can give increased distance, less casting effort, more wind-bucking capability, and finer braking adjustments than some other braking systems. The Shimano Exsence DC even has a mode, intended for fishing at night, that senses spool deceleration and will auto-stop the spool when the bait hits the water (no thumb required).

DC braking is nifty stuff, with proven capabilities, but can be a bit spendy...

Goose you took the words right out of my mouth.

Good job on the explanation.


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 3/30/2015 at 8:36 AM, hoosierbass07 said:

How come all baitcasters aren't digital controlled now?  The micro technology is there.  I'm surprised only the high end reels offer this and not all the other reels.  Is there a downside to digital controlled baitcasters?

I think the only downside is cost - both in initial purchase price and, possibly, repair cost in the event the DC module ever did fail.

As to why all BC reels don't have this technology, I would think that , no matter the economy of scale, you can't build a DC system as cheap as centrifugal or magnetic braking systems. There could also be Shimano patents protecting the technology as well.


fishing user avatarDylan Aiken reply : 

Thank you so much! This review helped me so much to set up my Met DC. Also the only instructions I could find in English haha.


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 12/28/2015 at 2:31 AM, Dylan Aiken said:

Thank you so much! This review helped me so much to set up my Met DC. Also the only instructions I could find in English haha.

Have fun with the reel and welcome to BR !


fishing user avatarbigfruits reply : 

Great review, Goose52!

After having spent more time on the water with the reel would you still prefer a lower gear ratio for medium depth crankbaits? I have heard several people say that even the HG version of can handle medium depth cranks just fine so I assumed the 6.2:1 version would be perfect.


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 

Thanks for the kind words...

I cranked with this reel as part of the "shake-down" process and it works fine for that.  As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I normally don't crank with a 26" IPT and prefer 22-24 IPT for shallow- or medium-depth cranks and have a bunch of reels with that lower IPT. That's a personal preference though - there's no doubt that this 6.2:1 / 26" IPT reel would handle the job.

This reel ended up on an Edge 705-1 Black Widow MH-F rod - an extremely versatile stick that can be used for just about anything, including shallow- and mid-depth cranking if needed. Starting this Spring it will be "the one" rod that will always be in the boat, primarily as  a t-rig rod, but able to back up just about any other rod in the boat except for deep cranking and heavy-power kind of stuff.  So, that will be the Met DCs mission from here on out.

FYI, I note your footer "WTB or trade for your MBR 842c GLX" and thought I'd mention that before the Edge 705-1 came along, my MBR 842C used to be "the one" in the boat.  And no, even though it's out of a job right now...I'm not selling or trading it...;)


fishing user avatarbigfruits reply : 
  On 12/30/2015 at 7:25 AM, Goose52 said:

 there's no doubt that this 6.2:1 / 26" IPT reel would handle the job.

I was wondering if I would be happy with another HG version with maybe 25% of its time spent on medium cranks but I think i might get the 6.2:1 after reading your review. 

 

  On 12/30/2015 at 7:25 AM, Goose52 said:

FYI, I note your footer "WTB or trade for your MBR 842c GLX" and thought I'd mention that before the Edge 705-1 came along, my MBR 842C used to be "the one" in the boat.  And no, even though it's out of a job right now...I'm not selling or trading it...;)

Come on, you need the BSR 852 GLX to have that follow up Senko always tied to. ;)


fishing user avatarGot1Fishing reply : 

My 2015 met dc (8.5:1) just came in yesterday and I'm just in "awe" with this reel. I'll post a more in depth review on it after a week of use. This reel is on a different level! The reel is so light and the free spoil is UNREAL right out of the box. I can't wait to see how it performs after I break it in some  I ordered a Shimano Zodias MH to pair this reel with - should be here today. 

Goose I pitched with it for a bit and I can see where you stand with saying if this what you plan to use it for just stick with the regular met. The brake doesn't even really come on in that situation. 

 


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 6/2/2016 at 7:25 PM, Got1Fishing said:

My 2015 met dc (8.5:1) just came in yesterday and I'm just in "awe" with this reel. I'll post a more in depth review on it after a week of use. This reel is on a different level! The reel is so light and the free spoil is UNREAL right out of the box. I can't wait to see how it performs after I break it in some  I ordered a Shimano Zodias MH to pair this reel with - should be here today. 

Goose I pitched with it for a bit and I can see where you stand with saying if this what you plan to use it for just stick with the regular met. The brake doesn't even really come on in that situation. 

 

Yep - it's a nice reel indeed. Mine has been in the boat just about every trip since I bought it...:thumbsup:


fishing user avatarWalkerJD reply : 

I just bought this real and read this thread to understand how to use the reel. If your using mono filament you can use the flourocarbon setting. 

Here are american weight sizes to grams fyi with settings

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1 = 4/6 (basically 3/4)= 1 1/16 (basically 1)
2 = 3/8 = 3/4 
3 = 1/4 = 3/8
4 = 1/8 = 1/4
A = 1/4 =  1 1/16 (basically 1)

4/6(between 1/2 and 3/4)

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You can get more accurate but in all reality you wont find weights that are that specific.


fishing user avatarDP82 reply : 

Hey guys been following old thread. I appreciate the effort in the review! I just got a Doybns 745DX and wanted a great reel for it. Almost went zillion but for that money 7.4oz was too heavy. I'll be doing jigs and light Trig stuff. This guy says I can get either one 325 shipped. I may jump on it. Which one should I get? Recommend gear ratio? How do you feel about it a year latter?

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fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 

@DP82 - this thread was a review of the Met DC - not the MGL.

 

Here's a thread from last year where there was discussion about Met vs. Aldebaran - of course this is the 2013 Met not the MGL.

 

Here's a recent thread on MGL vs. Aldebaran (you might want to post your questions on this thread) :

 

AND, here's a recent thread about MGL vs. everything else!

 

There's enough reading to tide you over for a while...:lol:


fishing user avatarRoLo reply : 

Thank you for a fantastic review regarding a fantastic reel   :thumbsup:

Lots of luck with her

 

Roger


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 
  On 2/4/2017 at 9:29 AM, RoLo said:

Thank you for a fantastic review regarding a fantastic reel   :thumbsup:

Lots of luck with her

 

Roger

 

Thanks Roger. That reel has been in the boat nearly every trip for coming on two years now - it reels in bass every trip...;)


fishing user avatarWalkerJD reply : 

I have been playing with this reel for a couple of months now and i have to say i dont know if its me but i know for  a fact i can cast further with my shimano curado than this reel




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