New curado model!!! 2024
bass raider reply :
There is a new i model coming in February! Instead of a 50 model they're calling it a 70 size. Here's a picture. If it doesn't come up pm me and I can tell you the website.
Jrob78 reply :
It's nice to see them listen to their customers, can't wait to get my hands on one.
cddan reply :
This is gonna cost me more money.
I was hoping also for a 300 series
I have thoroughly enjoyed curado I all summer into winter.
PitchinJigz reply :
So, so, so hype! 
kickerfish1 reply :
I was going to get the new I but now I will probably just wait for this one. Guessing it would probably be about $20 more than the starndard size I. As I recall the Curado 50E was more than the 200E when it released.
Jon G reply :
Well shoot it looks my reel to rod ratio is going to be even more unbalanced than it already is
Jrob78 reply :
On 12/24/2015 at 1:15 PM, kickerfish1 said:I was going to get the new I but now I will probably just wait for this one. Guessing it would probably be about $20 more than the starndard size I. As I recall the Curado 50E was more than the 200E when it released.
You're right, I'm seeing $199.
http://www.*.com/Shimano-Curado-70-Reels-p/shimano-cu70.htm
PitchinJigz reply :
On 12/24/2015 at 1:15 PM, kickerfish1 said:I was going to get the new I but now I will probably just wait for this one. Guessing it would probably be about $20 more than the starndard size I. As I recall the Curado 50E was more than the 200E when it released.
It has the price in the site. $20 more. Retail is $199.99.
DesertBass reply :
Great,have to spend more money now!Looks like the line cap is about the same as their 50 size reels.
PitchinJigz reply :
On 12/24/2015 at 1:23 PM, DesertBass said:Great,have to spend more money now!Looks like the line cap is about the same as their 50 size reels.
The only thing I wish was possible is putting the 50 size aftermarket spools in it. It will be awhile before we get a good amount of aftermarket parts for this one.
DesertBass reply :
On 12/24/2015 at 1:29 PM, PitchinJigz said:
The only thing I wish was possible is putting the 50 size aftermarket spools in it. It will be awhile before we get a good amount of aftermarket parts for this one.
Haha that's the first thing I thought when I saw this!Still waiting for a spool to come out for the aldebaran...
GoCougs14 reply :
Sweet!!! I was gonna pick up a 200I but I think im gonna hold out..
On that website it shows that theres going to be a HG model and XG model. Would it be same to assume that the XG model would he in the 8:x:1 range?
GaterB reply :
YESSSSSS!!!!
Soooo...Scorpion 70 too?? 
bootytrain reply :
d**n that is sweet! A must buy and the JDM version too! lol
PitchinJigz reply :
On 12/24/2015 at 1:31 PM, DesertBass said:Haha that's the first thing I thought when I saw this!Still waiting for a spool to come out for the aldebaran...
KTF makes one.
On 12/24/2015 at 1:54 PM, GoCougs14 said:Sweet!!! I was gonna pick up a 200I but I think im gonna hold out..
On that website it shows that theres going to be a HG model and XG model. Would it be same to assume that the XG model would he in the 8:x:1 range?
The XG is going to be a 8.2:1 ratio.
Alonerankin2 reply :
Charge your phone bro..
Got to hold this rascal, it's sure to be sweet though.
bassbassontherange reply :
Glad they announced before Christmas. I still have time to take the wife and kids' presents back so I have cash to put a couple pre-orders in.
Goose52 reply :
Great news for fans of the smaller capacity Shimanos! Although, my first thought was that instead of paying $200 for this new reel, I'd if at all possible kick in another $70 and get another JDM 2015 Aldebaran...
For those that are patient, perhaps waiting for a while after release will yield some savings if that $200 retail prices ends up getting discounted eventually.
Hogsticker reply :
On 12/24/2015 at 1:23 PM, Jrob78 said:You're right, I'm seeing $199.
http://www.*.com/Shimano-Curado-70-Reels-p/shimano-cu70.htm
That 150 of 10 lb has to be wrong. That's what the 200s hold. Then it reads 70 of 14 lb. Think it's supposed to read 105 of 10 lb. Looks like a nice little reel that should make a lot of folks happy.
Weld's Largemouth reply :
Can someone please tell whats the advantage and difference of this new curado I over the curado 200I ?
iabass8 reply :
On 12/24/2015 at 11:05 PM, Weld's Largemouth said:Can someone please tell whats the advantage and difference of this new curado I over the curado 200I ?
It isn't the "new curado I". It's a smaller framed version of the current Curado 200I. Same idea as the Curado/Chronarch 200e vs Curado/Chronarch 50e. Smaller frame, less line capacity, lighter spool, (now) faster gear ratio in the XG.
I'm curious why it is the "70" instead of the normal "50". Wonder if the frame isn't quite as small as the curado/chronarch 50.
Either way, high gear ratio is the only thing that peaks my interest on these. Otherwise..eh.
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
So this will be the best curado until next christmas ,,Shimano plays the game perfect and adds 20$
Jaheff reply :
On 12/25/2015 at 1:17 AM, Maxximus Redneckus said:So this will be the best curado until next christmas ,,Shimano plays the game perfect and adds 20$
And still give ya a short handle. Keeps Hawgtech Happy.
OkobojiEagle reply :
Looking forward to picking up another 51e... for $100
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mrpao reply :
Perhaps this reel will hold its value better than the 200i.
Just like the 50e normally holds better resale value than the 200e.
mrpao reply :
I also wonder if a citica 70 is coming ?
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
Maybe even a 75 !!
MarkH024 reply :
On 12/25/2015 at 6:28 PM, mrpao said:I also wonder if a citica 70 is coming ?
No that won't happen.
Cgrinder reply :
Not tickling me.
Bluebasser86 reply :
Like the high speed option in the smaller reel. Don't like that it cost $20 more for????? I guess it's harder to build a smaller reel or uses more parts?
Goose52 reply :
On 12/26/2015 at 4:15 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Like the high speed option in the smaller reel. Don't like that it cost $20 more for????? I guess it's harder to build a smaller reel or uses more parts?
OR, Shimano thinks that there will be a smaller market for the 70 size as compared to the 200 size and thus feels the need to increase the price a bit to amortize the tooling/startup/support costs over a smaller production quantity (just as it did with the CU50E).
OR, Shimano knows that it will be a popular model with a small number of anglers and charges more...because it can...
Regardless, perhaps down the road there will be some deals to be had.
At the end of the day, businesses are in business to make money...
OkobojiEagle reply :
On 12/26/2015 at 11:11 PM, Goose52 said:OR, Shimano thinks that there will be a smaller market for the 70 size as compared to the 200 size and thus feels the need to increase the price a bit to amortize the tooling/startup/support costs over a smaller production quantity (just as it did with the CU50E).
OR, Shimano knows that it will be a popular model with a small number of anglers and charges more...because it can...
Regardless, perhaps down the road there will be some deals to be had.
At the end of the day, businesses are in business to make money...
... or Shimano is living in the same inflationary world the rest of us live in.
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bootytrain reply :
On 12/26/2015 at 11:22 PM, OkobojiEagle said:... or Shimano is living in the same inflationary world the rest of us live in.
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What are you talking about? $199 is the same price as the previous Curado 50e and Chronarch 50e.
TorqueConverter reply :
Daiwa and Korean OEM guy here. Shimano noob. What exactly is this shallow spool in Daiwa terminology? A 1016 Daiwa type spool? What's the deal here? Looks like a Core 50 MG spool in a Curado. Whats the excitement? Is a 50 MG spool in a Curado I this exciting to the Shimano crowd?
iabass8 reply :
On 12/27/2015 at 2:33 PM, TorqueConverter said:Daiwa and Korean OEM guy here. Shimano noob. What exactly is this shallow spool in Daiwa terminology? A 1016 Daiwa type spool? What's the deal here? Looks like a Core 50 MG spool in a Curado. Whats the excitement? Is a 50 MG spool in a Curado I this exciting to the Shimano crowd?
The 1016 is a significantly deeper spool than the smaller versions (50, 70) of the Curado/Chronarch in terms of how much line it holds. The 1016 is also a much more controlled spool due to it's breaking. The 50 size shimanos have a strong following due to their much smaller profile than their counterpart (200+ series) and capability of throwing lighter baits better than a 200 but still very capable of throwing upper end weights well. I felt the 50 size reels responded better to tuning as well. In the past, these were only offered in a single 6:4 gear ratio and you had to drop core gears into them to get the higher IPT. The excitement surrounding these is that the new curado is finally being offered again in the very popular smaller frame size that we haven't seen since the chronarch 50(hence the 70), X ship on a smaller reel, and 2 different gear ratios; with the higher end being something like 8:1 or 8:3. It also has Shimanos new(?) hagane stamp. I haven't read enough about it to give a through explanation of what Hagane is aside from that it has to do /w gearing.
k3bass reply :
Hagane is nothing more than a sales gimmick that means metal. The sustain fg used to say paladin gearing on the shimano site, now the same reel says hagane gearing and body. Hahaha. I've seen people rave about the new stradic because it has this new special hagane body material, lol its just aluminum! What a joke.
bootytrain reply :
On 12/27/2015 at 4:23 PM, k3bass said:Hagane is nothing more than a sales gimmick that means metal. The sustain fg used to say paladin gearing on the shimano site, now the same reel says hagane gearing and body. Hahaha. I've seen people rave about the new stradic because it has this new special hagane body material, lol its just aluminum! What a joke.
Every company has marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas.. heres some info on the Hagane Concept.. why don't you educate yourself http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/technology/hagane2/index_en.html
roadwarrior reply :
On 12/27/2015 at 4:39 PM, bootytrain said:Every company has marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas.. heres some info on the Hagane Concept.. why don't you educate yourself http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/technology/hagane2/index_en.html
Very interesting read
jwhiteney reply :
Just yesterday I bought myself a second curado i. Would i be better off trying to return and wait for this one? Or is really just preference?
fishballer06 reply :
This should mean they're discontinuing the Chronarch 50e series.
mrpao reply :
They have already discontinued the chronarch 50e .
Most places have just slowly sold them out. Some places had them on clearance sale.
They are not even on Tackle warehouse anymore
k3bass reply :
On 12/27/2015 at 4:39 PM, bootytrain said:Every company has marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas.. heres some info on the Hagane Concept.. why don't you educate yourself http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/technology/hagane2/index_en.html
Seriously? Educate myself? My silly daiwas?
Go to tackle tour and read bantam 1's answer when he was asked what hagane means.
Can you explain how reels that were produced years ago like the sustain fg suddenly have this new hagane technology when nothing about the reel has changed???? It's nothing more than a sales gimmick. You can't seriously be naive enough to believe any of that shimano ad you posted can you?
bass raider reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 2:28 AM, k3bass said:Seriously? Educate myself? My silly daiwas?
Go to tackle tour and read bantam 1's answer when he was asked what hagane means.
Can you explain how reels that were produced years ago like the sustain fg suddenly have this new hagane technology when nothing about the reel has changed???? It's nothing more than a sales gimmick. You can't seriously be naive enough to believe any of that shimano ad you posted can you?
Whether it's new or not it still beats the junk lews and Abu put out. ?
Jon G reply :
Let's try not to get this post locked down.......
bass raider reply :
On 12/27/2015 at 4:39 PM, bootytrain said:Every company has marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas.. heres some info on the Hagane Concept.. why don't you educate yourself http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/technology/hagane2/index_en.html
Great read!!
k3bass reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 2:45 AM, bass raider said:Whether it's new or not it still beats the junk lews and Abu put out. ?
Who said anything about lews or abu? I'm just trying to point out that shimanos "hagane" technology or "concept" is nothing more than a sales catch phrase. I'm interested in the truth not some childish my reels are better than yours game. Never said shimano was junk.
bootytrain reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 2:28 AM, k3bass said:Seriously? Educate myself? My silly daiwas?
Go to tackle tour and read bantam 1's answer when he was asked what hagane means.
Can you explain how reels that were produced years ago like the sustain fg suddenly have this new hagane technology when nothing about the reel has changed???? It's nothing more than a sales gimmick. You can't seriously be naive enough to believe any of that shimano ad you posted can you?
I'm not saying its not marketing terminology, I'm saying everybody has just as much marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas, which by the way is probably has the most gimmicky "tech" out of all the reel companies lol. Apparently though you will only call Shimano out for using marketing terms? I'm very familiar with Tackletour as I'm much more active there.
iabass8 reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 2:51 AM, k3bass said:I'm just trying to point out that shimanos "hagane" technology or "concept" is nothing more than a sales catch phrase. I'm interested in the truth not some childish my reels are better than yours game. Never said shimano was junk.
Every company has their own sales catch phrase. You aren't pointing out something that every other company hasn't done themselves in the past or won't continue to do. It's part of sales. You started this whole stupid argument with how your initial comments came off. malicious or not.
k3bass reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 3:17 AM, bootytrain said:I'm not saying its not marketing terminology, I'm saying everybody has just as much marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas, which by the way is probably has the most gimmicky "tech" out of all the reel companies lol. I'm very familiar with Tackletour as I'm much more active there.
You must be mistaking me with someone else when you say my silly daiwas. I don't use daiwa reels exclusively or say they are better. And why are they silly?
I hate to break it to you but no other reel manufacturer even comes close to shimano when it comes to gimmicky sales catch phrases. But yes daiwa would come in second place in that category.
I'd still like someone to answer my question as to how older shimano reels suddenly have this new hagane technology.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 12/16/2015 at 3:07 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:What gets me is this was suppose to be fanboys for Shimano commenting. The TRUE FANBOYS shine through with their raging jealousy of yet once again Shimano getting all the attention. It eats at their craw that Shimano is always the brand other brands are compared to and Shimano most times is the brand that shines on top. Any commenters that posted thats not a Shimano fanboy by default is off-topic and shouldnt have replied. But see, as a TRUE FANBOY would do, they had to try to take down the one on TOP, to no avail.
guess highlighted text applies
k3bass reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 3:17 AM, bootytrain said:I'm not saying its not marketing terminology, I'm saying everybody has just as much marketing terminology including your silly Daiwas, which by the way is probably has the most gimmicky "tech" out of all the reel companies lol. Apparently though you will only call Shimano out for using marketing terms? I'm very familiar with Tackletour as I'm much more active there.
I like how you go back and change and add to your post after I've already quoted it.
Please explain how I will only call out shimano for using marketing terms.
I was simply stating the fact that hagane is a sales gimmick. Someone was questioning what it actually meant and said he thought it had something to do with the gearing.
Some people actually care about facts and what a reel is actually made of.
bootytrain reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 3:25 AM, k3bass said:You must be mistaking me with someone else when you say my silly daiwas. I don't use daiwa reels exclusively or say they are better. And why are they silly?
I hate to break it to you but no other reel manufacturer even comes close to shimano when it comes to gimmicky sales catch phrases. But yes daiwa would come in second place in that category.
I'd still like someone to answer my question as to how older shimano reels suddenly have this new hagane technology.
No, I know exactly who I'm addressing when I say "silly Daiwas". And I hate to break it to you, but Ive bought the Daiwa Japan fishing catalogs for the past 7+ years and they have just as many if not more marketing terms as Shimano.
bootytrain reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 4:03 AM, k3bass said:I like how you go back and change and add to your post after I've already quoted it.
Please explain how I will only call out shimano for using marketing terms.
I was simply stating the fact that hagane is a sales gimmick. Someone was questioning what it actually meant and said he thought it had something to do with the gearing.
Some people actually care about facts and what a reel is actually made of.
Editing a post to prove my point a bit better and you think you've stumbled upon some great revelation? lol And show me where you've called out another company's marketing terminology. Since I don't think anyone on this board is fluent in Japanese then nobody is going to be able to explain what the exact definition is but that link I provided gives the best explanation I could find but I doubt you even went to it.
Jaheff reply :
Geez...
Darren. reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 2:28 AM, k3bass said:Go to tackle tour and read bantam 1's answer when he was asked what hagane means.
Have to agree. According to what I read, Bantam1
said the gearing is cold-forged aluminum.
However, he also says this:
QuoteThere are several other improvements on the FK over the previous models. Also with each generation they improve the gearing. The new drive gear is thicker than the previous model and Sustain. It is still a cold forged aluminum gear, but with some improvements. This was mainly done for the inshore applications to boost gear durability even further.
So there are some differences, but by and large,
Hagane is a new trademark for their cold forged
gearing.
QuoteHagane is the new global TM for the cold forged gear.
k3bass reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 6:52 AM, bootytrain said:No, I know exactly who I'm addressing when I say "silly Daiwas". And I hate to break it to you, but Ive bought the Daiwa Japan fishing catalogs for the past 7+ years and they have just as many if not more marketing terms as Shimano.
On 12/28/2015 at 7:01 AM, bootytrain said:Editing a post to prove my point a bit better and you think you've stumbled upon some great revelation? lol And show me where you've called out another company's marketing terminology. Since I don't think anyone on this board is fluent in Japanese then nobody is going to be able to explain what the exact definition is but that link I provided gives the best explanation I could find but I doubt you even went to it.
Dang man relax. And I still don't know what you mean by saying my silly daiwas. I own all brands of reels.
Yes I went to the shimano ad you posted. It just proves my point, it's nothing more than a marketing gimmick.
offsidewing reply :
*skims over 2.5 pages of Ford vs Chevy Butt Hurt posts* Can't wait to pick one up! I'll have to hit all the usual websites to pre-order one!
k3bass reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 7:29 AM, Darren. said:Have to agree. According to what I read, Bantam1
said the gearing is cold-forged aluminum.However, he also says this:
So there are some differences, but by and large,
Hagane is a new trademark for their cold forged
gearing.
It's not just for the gearing though. Reels with an aluminum or magnesium frame are now listed as having a hagane body.
iabass8 reply :
I thought Hagane is now taking the place of their older "Paladin technology"..if I read what little I could find on it correctly. So if their Paladin gearing was cold forged aluminium..and Hagane is a slight upgrade or w/e to it..their gearing is Hagane but some of their body materials are also Hagane as well making their framing materials (that are alluminium) made of the same materials that their gears are even if the reels /w xship are using brass gears? I'm so F$%#$ing confused. I quit.
.ghoti. reply :
You gents want to keep this civilized, or do you want me to try out out all the new tools I have at my disposal?
k3bass reply :
On 12/28/2015 at 10:56 AM, .ghoti. said:
On 12/28/2015 at 10:49 AM, iabass8 said:I thought Hagane is now taking the place of their older "Paladin technology"..if I read what little I could find on it correctly. So if their Paladin gearing was cold forged aluminium..and Hagane is a slight upgrade or w/e to it..their gearing is Hagane but some of their body materials are also Hagane as well making their framing materials (that are alluminium) made of the same materials that their gears are even if the reels /w xship are using brass gears? I'm so F$%#$ing confused. I quit.
But see the thing is the Hagane gear technology is not an upgrade! All they did was change the name. The sustain fg was listed as having paladin gearing since it came out on shimano's site. Now the same reel is listed as having hagane gearing, it's not upgraded they just changed the name. The sustain is also listed as having a hagane body now also.
Bluebasser86 reply :
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