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The Most Sensitive Rod Money Can Buy 2024


fishing user avatarBasshunterJGH reply : 

What is the most sensitive rod money can buy in your opinion? Just curious.


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 

I'm sure you'll get brands and models all over the map, but here's the bottom line. Sensitivity of a blank is determined by the stiffness:weight ratio. number one. Then the "speed", not in action but rather recovery speed or resonance frequency. Next, the lightest possible guide train will protect as much as possible of the blank's inherent properties. You're talking about Titanium frame micros or Recoils. The grip needs to built with solid graphite arbors for the seat matched to a carbon fiber grip with a butt length that is comfortable and as close to neutral balance as you can get without adding weight. To achieve all this you're looking at a custom build on a high quality blank of which there are a few. Granted some of this may be beyond the point of diminishing returns cost wise, but addresses the original question. 


fishing user avatarMaster Bait'r reply : 

DVT's "0-solved time" is quite Veyron-esque haha nice response!    


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Off the shelf Megabass Aaron Martin's '71 pushes $700.

Loomis NRX series are in the $550 range

Lamiglas INF series meets most of DVT's goals off the shelf at $280 range.

Tom


fishing user avatarRaul reply : 

Sensitivity depends on two factors:

 

1.- The rod and line: materials and construction have vibration transmiting properties, graphite has better vibration transmition properties than fiberglass, spectra fibers have better vibration transmitting properties than nylon. Blank thru handle design and construction has better properties than blank and handle, skeletal reel seat has better properties than just a single opening in the reel seat ( more contact with the fingers ) all those are thos parameters can be measured.

 

2.- You: here´s where the most sensitive rod money can buy hits a brick wall, the rod may have the materials and construction that optimize it´s capability to transmit even the slightest vibration, the line too but you can´t quantify PERCEPTION, how your nervous central system processes the information is highly subjective.

 

So what´s the most sensitive rod money can buy ? that will depend on who you ask.

 

I can´t feel the difference between an IMX and a NRX, so there´s no point in me paying twice as much if I can´t feel the difference.


fishing user avatarTywithay reply : 

A properly built custom on an SC5, K2, or NFC HM, will be as sensitive as any person would ever need. At that point, any difference is basically just personal preference, as far as action, power, balance, etc. That's why I recommend custom. You get exactly what you want.


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/142505-custom-rod-from-d-v-t/


fishing user avatarFishTank reply : 

The most sensitive I have fished is the G.Loomis GLX line of rods. I can't imagine it getting any better but there is the NRX.  There will be one in my future.....


fishing user avatarthehooligan reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 3:46 AM, Tywithay said:

A properly built custom on an SC5, K2, or NFC HM, will be as sensitive as any person would ever need. At that point, any difference is basically just personal preference, as far as action, power, balance, etc. That's why I recommend custom. You get exactly what you want.

My thoughts exactly. Can't wait for my first custom...


fishing user avatarJrob78 reply : 

I have 2 customs built on SCV blanks with spiral wrapped micro guides.  They are the most sensitive rods I have ever fished.  I've never fished a NRX or any Megabass rods though.  


fishing user avatarSenkoGuru reply : 

 A great deal of that sensitivity is going to come from the Line you are using. If you use Fluorocarbon and a Tungsten weight, it will add volumes to sensitivity on Texas-rig's/Jig's.


fishing user avatarmjseverson24 reply : 

The most sensitive Rod that I have ever used is the Shimano Cumara. the reel seat is designed for maximum contact with your hand to the blank, the front and rear grips are minimalistic resulting in the least ammount of vibration dampening of any rod I have seen. The blank material may not be the best on the market, but it is maximized to get the most out of the materials used in the construction of it. you put the same design features on a magabass blank, or a SCV blank and you would truly have something special...

 

Mitch


fishing user avatarJrob78 reply : 

I am curious how the Edge rods perform in the sensitivity department.  I would think the carbon fiber grips would really transmit vibration well.  I imagine the NFC HM blanks would compete with the others mentioned but I don't really know.  


fishing user avatarTywithay reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 11:52 AM, Jrob78 said:

I am curious how the Edge rods perform in the sensitivity department. I would think the carbon fiber grips would really transmit vibration well. I imagine the NFC HM blanks would compete with the others mentioned but I don't really know.

The Edge 705 is the best balanced, most sensitive rod I've ever handled. I'd take an NFC HM over any other blank on the market. It's easily on par with the NRX, with better build quality.
fishing user avatarisland bassin reply : 

I will go for a JDM , Major Craft Volkey


fishing user avatarTywithay reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 2:31 PM, island bassin said:

I will go for a JDM , Major Craft Volkey

That's more of an entry level rod. Considering the cost of importing, you can find a better rod on this side of the pond, for less money.
fishing user avatarsmalljaw67 reply : 

Braided line will make even a Berkley Cherrywood feel as sensitive as a GLX, yeah, I know, I'm exaggerating a bit but it does increase sensitivity by a lot. I only use braid for flipping super heavy cover and for frogs but the feel of even a heavy power rod is very good, on normal bottom contact rods it really adds to the sensitivity. Don't always go by price.


fishing user avatarthehooligan reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 8:51 PM, smalljaw67 said:

Braided line will make even a Berkley Cherrywood feel as sensitive as a GLX, yeah, I know, I'm exaggerating a bit but it does increase sensitivity by a lot. I only use braid for flipping super heavy cover and for frogs but the feel of even a heavy power rod is very good, on normal bottom contact rods it really adds to the sensitivity. Don't always go by price.

 

Thats the reason ive always been so happy with my cumaras & cumulus rods. Definitely not as sensitive as an nrx or other highend blank, but with 10lb braid and a short flouro leader, i really dont think i need anything more sensitive then that. 

 

I have been using less braid lately, and more flouro/copoly, makes me wonder how that would feel on an nrx/custom.

 

Id really like to get the SC5, K2, or NFC HM blank in my hand to see what feels best...


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 

I have a K2 and an SCV blank, both still in tubes, standing up in the corner, waiting for some spare time.

 

The SCV is a spinning blank, to built as a bait finesse casting rod for a new SS SV that's on the way.

 

The K2 has a custom painted, tuned up TD-Z waiting in the wings. This one's gonna be my new tube rod.

 

An NFC HM blank will probably be next. Haven't decided which one I want to try first. Probably the 705


fishing user avatarthehooligan reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 9:55 PM, .ghoti. said:

I have a K2 and an SCV blank, both still in tubes, standing up in the corner, waiting for some spare time.

 

The SCV is a spinning blank, to built as a bait finesse casting rod for a new SS SV that's on the way.

 

The K2 has a custom painted, tuned up TD-Z waiting in the wings. This one's gonna be my new tube rod.

 

An NFC HM blank will probably be next. Haven't decided which one I want to try first. Probably the 705

 

^  Nice, im wondering out of those 3 blanks which offers the most options for lengths and powers. Im looking for a 6'6-6'8 medium light blank for a finesse casting rod...


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 

St Croix has the most robust line up and I'd throw the MHX HM into the mix. MHX makes a DS822 which they call a Mag ML. Loads well with light baits but has some power in the butt.


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 10:20 PM, thehooligan said:

^  Nice, im wondering out of those 3 blanks which offers the most options for lengths and powers. Im looking for a 6'6-6'8 medium light blank for a finesse casting rod...

I have the 5S70MLFG  7' ML-F, lure rating down to 1/8oz. I'll probably trim two or three inches off the butt to get what I want.

 

St Croix has the most comprehensive line of blanks for freshwater fishing. I don't think you can go wrong with an SCIV or SCV blank.


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 

I think all of these blanks along with a custom build on the NRX have the potential to be very sensitive.   But I would also bet that if we took a sampling of 10 individuals from this site and let them all test rods from these manufacturers that we would not have a unanimous winner.  Much like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so is sensitivity.

 

What we need is some wily engineer type to develop a tool that can truly measure sensitivity.


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 11:02 PM, aavery2 said:

I think all of these blanks along with a custom build on the NRX have the potential to be very sensitive.   But I would also bet that if we took a sampling of 10 individuals from this site and let them all test rods from these manufacturers that we would not have a unanimous winner.  Much like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so is sensitivity.

 

What we need is some wily engineer type to develop a tool that can truly measure sensitivity.

 I've been thinking about doing that. I have LabView software, and a couple of DAQ cards with inputs which will accept just about any type of sensor's output signal. Also have a few low range accelerometers. It would not be difficult to develop an application to measure vibration transmission.

 

At this point, I have no time for such a project. And, I don't really know what I would use to apply a realistic input signal to the rod blank. I've put some thought into this this and have conceived, and discarded, several ideas. I'd be interested to hear some of your ideas. Keep in mind, that for this to have any relevance at all, whatever I use to apply a signal to the rod will have to be controlled down to a very fine level. Tapping the end of the blank with a stick is not going to work. LOL


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 

Due to the differences in sensory perception among individuals, it's probably an exercise in futility to try to measure sensitivity any more than you could measure taste. What would be nice though is for rod and blank makers to embrace Dr Hannemen's "Common Cents" system which measures rod power, action, speed (frequency) with the weight of a US Penny as the unit of measure. A lot of blank makers wont even list physical weight as they don't want their offerings compared to others. 


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 11:32 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Due to the differences in sensory perception among individuals, it's probably an exercise in futility to try to measure sensitivity any more than you could measure taste. What would be nice though is for rod and blank makers to embrace Dr Hannemen's "Common Cents" system which measures rod power, action, speed (frequency) with the weight of a US Penny as the unit of measure. A lot of blank makers wont even list physical weight as they don't want their offerings compared to others. 

 This!!!!

 

I've been thinking about this measurement thing off and on for a couple of years. Ever since I had to buy, and learn, LabView for a project. In talking to an engineer friend, who is also a fisherman (he's mechanical, I'm electrical) he thought that by applying a steady state vibration, all I would accomplish would be to establish the resonant frequency for each blank. Interesting, but ultimately of no practical use. I don't think a bass, or any other fish, vibrates. A strike would be an impulse.

 

That has been my dilemma. How to apply a repeatable, variable, controlled impulse. This is a solvable problem, but one I have put on the shelf for a while. I will get back to it sometime soon.

 

Sensitivity, being subjective, would not be what I would be trying to measure. What I would be after would be quantifiable data, for comparative purposes. Objective data, which could possibly be correlated to subjective perceptions across a wide sampling of people. I do believe this could yield some useful results.

 

By the way DVT, the project which got me started with LabView was to measure taste. I signed a rigid nondisclosure agreement to get this project, so I can't discuss details, but I can say the measurements recorded for analysis, were relative rather than absolute.


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 
  On 9/17/2014 at 12:58 AM, .ghoti. said:

 This!!!!

 

I've been thinking about this measurement thing off and on for a couple of years. Ever since I had to buy, and learn, LabView for a project. In talking to an engineer friend, who is also a fisherman (he's mechanical, I'm electrical) he thought that by applying a steady state vibration, all I would accomplish would be to establish the resonant frequency for each blank. Interesting, but ultimately of no practical use. I don't think a bass, or any other fish, vibrates. A strike would be an impulse.

 

That has been my dilemma. How to apply a repeatable, variable, controlled impulse. This is a solvable problem, but one I have put on the shelf for a while. I will get back to it sometime soon.

 

Sensitivity, being subjective, would not be what I would be trying to measure. What I would be after would be quantifiable data, for comparative purposes. Objective data, which could possibly be correlated to subjective perceptions across a wide sampling of people. I do believe this could yield some useful results.

 

By the way DVT, the project which got me started with LabView was to measure taste. I signed a rigid nondisclosure agreement to get this project, so I can't discuss details, but I can say the measurements recorded for analysis, were relative rather than absolute.

"What I would be after would be quantifiable data, for comparative purposes. Objective data, which could possibly be correlated to subjective perceptions across a wide sampling of people. I do believe this could yield some useful results."

 

Exactly. That's what the Common Cents System's intention is as well. Taking subjective terms like ML, M, MH, Fast, Moderate, 5wt, 1/4-3/4 oz etc and replacing them with quantifiable terms that can be measured the same as 7', 4 oz etc. I think you'll find this interesting .ghoti : http://www.common-cents.info/ 


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 
  On 9/17/2014 at 12:58 AM, .ghoti. said:

 

That has been my dilemma. How to apply a repeatable, variable, controlled impulse. This is a solvable problem, but one I have put on the shelf for a while. I will get back to it sometime soon.

 

 

How 'bout a violin bow?

 

I thinking a secure rod holder with the rod at 10:00 and 10' of line tied to a 1/2 oz jig. Can the vibration be measured in the line and the 

blank?


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 11:32 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Due to the differences in sensory perception among individuals, it's probably an exercise in futility to try to measure sensitivity any more than you could measure taste. What would be nice though is for rod and blank makers to embrace Dr Hannemen's "Common Cents" system which measures rod power, action, speed (frequency) with the weight of a US Penny as the unit of measure. A lot of blank makers wont even list physical weight as they don't want their offerings compared to others. 

It may be splitting hairs but there is a difference.  If you devised a device that could accurately measure what we commonly call sensitivity, then you could truly say which rod has the greatest.   As it is now it is entirely subjective and opinion based.  

 

This should not be confused with what feels best in your hand, because I am sure we would soon find out that the two are not usually the same.


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 11:17 PM, .ghoti. said:

 I've been thinking about doing that. I have LabView software, and a couple of DAQ cards with inputs which will accept just about any type of sensor's output signal. Also have a few low range accelerometers. It would not be difficult to develop an application to measure vibration transmission.

 

At this point, I have no time for such a project. And, I don't really know what I would use to apply a realistic input signal to the rod blank. I've put some thought into this this and have conceived, and discarded, several ideas. I'd be interested to hear some of your ideas. Keep in mind, that for this to have any relevance at all, whatever I use to apply a signal to the rod will have to be controlled down to a very fine level. Tapping the end of the blank with a stick is not going to work. LOL

In my mind it would involve a freq. generator so that the input could be controlled in very small graduation and reproduced for comparison.  The problem with this is that it would only tell you which rod was better at certain frequencies.   I wonder if after enough testing, if a range of frequencies would be preferred by a majority of anglers  and based on that you could label one rod better than the other or if a test could be developed to determine which freq. individual anglers could feel the best and a rod could be selected for an individual  based on that information.

 

Now you have done it, I will be thinking about this for the next couple of days.


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 

Kent, that would produce a steady state vibration. The frequency would depend on the size of, and the tension on, the line. This could easily be measured, but, as I said before, I don't think it would give me anything useful, other than resonant frequency.

 

I totally agree with DVT, that the Common Cents System is the way to go. This system yields easily measured numbers which, while being of only some value as absolute numbers, can be of great value for comparative purposes. The system does not ,however, make any determination of sensitivity. Still, a great concept, developed by a creative thinker. But, I don't think we will ever get rod and/or blank manufacturers to measure and publish this data. Hell, a lot of them won't even publish rod or blank weights.

 

When I started thinking about this, what I first had in mind was taking some response measurements from a blank, and then taking the same measurements after the rod was built. Then start putting together a data base, or spreadsheet, showing what effect different materials had on the numbers. ie, does EVA damp the rod more than cork, or foam arbors vs tape vs graphite, different reels seat, split vs full grip, guides, etc,etc,etc.

 

I think many of those comparisons would show slight differences measurable by precise instruments, but imperceptible to the human hand. But, and here's a big but, maybe several of those measured differences added together would produce something we could feel.

 

That's where I was going with this initially. But all these discussions about sensitivity maid me start thinking along those lines as well.


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 
  On 9/17/2014 at 4:39 AM, aavery2 said:

In my mind it would involve a freq. generator so that the input could be controlled in very small graduation and reproduced for comparison.  The problem with this is that it would only tell you which rod was better at certain frequencies.   I wonder if after enough testing, if a range of frequencies would be preferred by a majority of anglers  and based on that you could label one rod better than the other or if a test could be developed to determine which freq. individual anglers could feel the best and a rod could be selected for an individual  based on that information.

 

Now you have done it, I will be thinking about this for the next couple of days.

 

You've hit the nail on the head. A steady state vibration would tell us the resonant freq; where in the spectrum the rod or blank was most efficient at vibration transmission. I don't think that would be of much use. I would also be very disturbing to find that an Ugly stick at 2.5KHz was better than a GLX. Which again, would prove nothing.

 

You sound like we may speak the same language, so here's my best thought so far. I considered using an LVDT. Instead of hooking up an excitation voltage to the coil and reading the output windings for distance measurement, I would configure a DAQ card for ac voltage output and connect it to the output coils. take a little experimentation and probably a buffer amp, but it should stroke the plunger in and out. It would have a limit on upper freq, but I don't think I need to measure high freqs. Impulses are what I'm after. What do you think?

 

At this time, this is all blue sky thinking. I have way too much going on to be able to do anything other than think about it.


fishing user avatarOkobojiEagle reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 1:23 AM, BasshunterJGH said:

What is the most sensitive rod money can buy in your opinion? Just curious.

 

 

First of all, it would be a spinning rod...

 

 

oe


fishing user avatarhawgenvy reply : 

Though not an engineer, and though probably very naive on the matter, it occurs to me that an objective measure of sensitivity might favor rigidity, whereas castability requires flexibility. Selection for sensitivity may be selection against castability. Nevertheless, I admire you brave scientists for attempting the feat, and wish you success in coping with the many variables.


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 
  On 9/17/2014 at 6:27 AM, OkobojiEagle said:

First of all, it would be a spinning rod...

 

 

oe

I'm curious OE why do you feel this way.


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 
  On 9/17/2014 at 11:39 AM, hawgenvy said:

Though not an engineer, and though probably very naive on the matter, it occurs to me that an objective measure of sensitivity might favor rigidity, whereas castability requires flexibility. Selection for sensitivity may be selection against castability. Nevertheless, I admire you brave scientists for attempting the feat, and wish you success in coping with the many variables.

 

Had the very same thoughts myself.

 

Is this a case of great minds think alike, or feeble minds never differ?


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 

Tom Kirkman, and some of the guys on the rodbuilding forum have been building a Common Cents System database. It has a considerable amount of information freely available. It would be a fine thing, if all of us who are interested would sign up at rodbuilding.org and contribute to the database.


fishing user avatarOkobojiEagle reply : 
  On 9/17/2014 at 11:44 AM, aavery2 said:

I'm curious OE why do you feel this way.

 

 

ergonomics (and my walleye fishing background)... a spinning rod/reel will balance in your hand with no grip necessary allowing the lightest of touches pinching the blank above the weight of the reel (assuming no foregrip).  When balanced properly, the slightest of weight change from the bait can be both felt and seen.  The lighter the spinning combo the better.

 

 

oe


fishing user avatarwarpath58 reply : 

Megabass ARMS Challenge ? at least that's what I hear. I will never know as I'm not going to be spending $1200 + for just a rod.


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 

Who would ever thought that simply going fishing could be so "DANG COMPLICATED".

 

Hootie


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 
  On 9/18/2014 at 12:48 AM, *Hootie said:

Who would ever thought that simply going fishing could be so "DANG COMPLICATED".

 

Hootie

 

That's the beauty of it. It can be as simple, or complex, as you'd like it to be.


fishing user avatarIAY reply : 
  On 9/18/2014 at 12:48 AM, *Hootie said:

Who would ever thought that simply going fishing could be so "DANG COMPLICATED".

 

Hootie

 

  On 9/18/2014 at 1:18 AM, .ghoti. said:

That's the beauty of it. It can be as simple, or complex, as you'd like it to be.

 

You can catch bass perfectly fine with their 20 dollar Walmart combo, but we choose to play the game!


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 

Have at it. You play, and I'll fish....lol.

 

Hootie


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 

Just kidding guys. This stuff is rather fascinating.

 

Hootie


fishing user avatarBassCats reply : 

As soon as ya'll get all this technical stuff figured out will you tell the rest of us what it is you find out?


fishing user avatarAK-Jax86 reply : 

My waterloo Salinity spinning rod is ultra sensitive it's $170 but I am sure you can break the bank and get something a lot more sensitive, I can only go by my experience


fishing user avatar.ghoti. reply : 
  On 9/18/2014 at 1:52 AM, BassCats said:

As soon as ya'll get all this technical stuff figured out will you tell the rest of us what it is you find out?

 

You bet. Just don't hold your breath. It's gonna be a while before I have any time to devote to this. I'm teaching five courses this semester, working on a plant-wide power monitoring system as a side job, and trying to get a cabin fixed up before it gets too cold. I'm coming up for breath sometime, just not sure when.

 

On a positive note, at the cabin I have my rod building / reel tuning bench almost ready to put in service.


fishing user avatarSirSnookalot reply : 
  On 9/16/2014 at 8:51 PM, smalljaw67 said:

Braided line will make even a Berkley Cherrywood feel as sensitive as a GLX, yeah, I know, I'm exaggerating a bit but it does increase sensitivity by a lot. I only use braid for flipping super heavy cover and for frogs but the feel of even a heavy power rod is very good, on normal bottom contact rods it really adds to the sensitivity. Don't always go by price.

I probably don't use a rod much better than a cherrywood, I'm using a med 6'6 daiwa spinning rod with braid.  Don't feel I'm losing out on the sensitivity at all.  I don't do this kind of fishing very often but when I do I'm keeping my rod tip low to the water and out of the wind, reduces the "bow" in the line quite a bit.


fishing user avatarHogsticker reply : 

I wouldn't consider a Major Craft Volkey one piece rod entry level. The rods are built well with quality components and a blank that has a bit more advanced materials such as Mitsubishi rayon and Toray graphite. These are actually a great value if you exclude shipping charges.


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 

Good Luck Ghoti, if you find that human intuition machine you will surely be a rich man!!! But I don't see how any machine can be as different as a human nervious system is from one individual to another??? :Idontknow:

 

I have to agree this is very subjective. There are several blanks that would be hard to distinguish more or less sensitivity from one to the other when built with the same components in comparative power and action!! DVT said it pretty well, these top blanks require certain components to withdraw their best sensitivity. Most would not be using many of these components as they would not enhance the rest of the rods fish ability, or personal preference's. I think if anyone chose a SCV, NRX, and maybe NFC, but haven't used an NFC blank as of yet, any of these three I believe you could build your PERFECT,,, most sensitive rod. But most would not be happy with the components needed to create the MOST sensitive!

 

Like I said I think the ultimate in sensitivity can be had with any of these blanks I mentioned, I also would only pick one, and that is because I believe it is not only as sensitive as the other two, but am convinced it is the toughest of the three, it is available in more options than the others, it is lighter in comparable length power and action, than the others, and is backed better with more options if you ever needed the warranty, that is the SCV more sensitive than I need, and pretty sure the Loomis NRX can't even be had with a warranty unless purchased their way!!!

 

Lastly I have to think that once you get past a SCIII Croix or IMX Loomis, quality blank's you are using a more than is necessary to to distinguish what you feel on the end of the line blank!! I have aprox. 23 Avids, Legend Elites & Extremes, and G. Loomis IMX rods, and have owned NRX & GLX, any one of them will let me instantly tell the slightest difference in bottom or bites. I have several custom Legend, Elites, Extremes, and Avids. I am building a custom rod now in a 6' LF Avid blank, I used this blank because I can't see how I would benefit from any more sensitivity than this rod will transmit, and it is a more forgiving action than the SCV or other custom blanks in fast action without going to a slower moderate action. Many times people look for sensitivity and choose to fast a tip to get it, when their are better blanks available for the type of fishing they are wanting it for and end up with an over sensitive rod that doesn't serve it's pupose as well as a rod with plenty of sensitivity and more rounded to the purpose they are using it for.  :thumbsup:  


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Take a look at Hydra Fishing, Scrimless rod blanks.

Tom


fishing user avatarFish_Whisperer reply : 

You could setup a device that would run a test to determine the most sensitive rod on paper, but I am in agreement with others that it boils down to the end user and their bodies' ability to interpret the signals sufficiently enough to warrant having the most sensitive rod on the market, custom or otherwise.

 

In the spirit of discussion, I applaud Ghoti for being willing to think outside the box and apply his resources to getting some data if time allows.  Here is my take on what could be done to gather data (only a HS graduate so my thinking may be a bit simpler than others.)...

 

A device could be built that would hold a completed rod by the grip that a fisherman would typically hold.  Sensors would be placed on the part that holds the rod as the last line of signals would be at the grip before being computed by the human body.  So....  have a device that attaches to the end of the line, and will pull line taut very quickly up until a certain point (maybe 2lbs of pressure) at which point the device is tripped and lets the line go, or just goes completely slack.

 

Where I am lost at, is how to compute or translate the data the machine gathers into a useful figure for the average angler.  Also, for this to be as objective as possible, absolutely everything would have to be the same for each test other than the completed rod itself; same reel, same exact amount of line, levelwind in same place during testing, same pressure on the line before initiating test with the 2 lb "bite".   


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 

What if instead of one machine, you had two.  The first would measure at what frequency the subject rod resonates the best.  The other machine would measure what frequency an angler can feel best.   This would lead to rods that were very customized based on the frequency of vibration an angler could feel the best and would be the most sensitive rod for him.

 

Just thinking.....


fishing user avatarFrogFreak reply : 

I once felt a Bass sneeze my rod was so sensitive!


fishing user avatarFish_Whisperer reply : 
  On 9/20/2014 at 3:37 AM, aavery2 said:

What if instead of one machine, you had two.  The first would measure at what frequency the subject rod resonates the best.  The other machine would measure what frequency an angler can feel best.   This would lead to rods that were very customized based on the frequency of vibration an angler could feel the best and would be the most sensitive rod for him.

 

Just thinking.....

 

That would be a game changer.  You'd see test machines at bass pros everywhere to get your personalized sensitivity rating, similar to the dr scholls foot mapping machines lol.


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 
  On 9/20/2014 at 3:44 AM, FrogFreak said:

I once felt a Bass sneeze my rod was so sensitive!

you sure it wasn't a fart, unless you are using an NRX it is hard to tell the difference.     :laugh5:


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 
  On 9/20/2014 at 3:47 AM, Fish_Whisperer said:

That would be a game changer.  You'd see test machines at all bass pros everywhere to get your personalized sensitivity rating, similar to the dr scholls foot mapping machines lol.

The problem is once you have the information regarding what you can feel the best, would you be able to get a rod in the matched frequency in the power and action that you would like, or would your choice be  limited to maybe just a couple.


fishing user avatarFrogFreak reply : 
  On 9/20/2014 at 3:48 AM, aavery2 said:

you sure it wasn't a fart, unless you are using an NRX it is hard to tell the difference.     :laugh5:

 

Good point, I was using a St. Croix Triumph so I really just assumed. I suppose we could set up a machine to measure the frequency of a Bass fart vs. a Bass sneeze and then we could figure it out once and for all.


fishing user avatarFish_Whisperer reply : 
  On 9/20/2014 at 3:50 AM, aavery2 said:

The problem is once you have the information regarding what you can feel the best, would you be able to get a rod in the matched frequency in the power and action that you would like, or would your choice be  limited to maybe just a couple.

 

If something got as far as to warrant putting machines like that in big box stores, then I would think so.   


fishing user avatarSteveo-1969 reply : 
  On 9/18/2014 at 1:52 AM, BassCats said:

As soon as ya'll get all this technical stuff figured out will you tell the rest of us what it is you find out?

 

And explain it in "Rod Sensitivity for Dummies" jargon? 


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 
  On 9/20/2014 at 3:53 AM, FrogFreak said:

Good point, I was using a St. Croix Triumph so I really just assumed. I suppose we could set up a machine to measure the frequency of a Bass fart vs. a Bass sneeze and then we could figure it out once and for all.

Nah, your making it too difficult, all you need to know is if it stank or not.


fishing user avatarchris55552 reply : 

Everytime I look into buying a new rod, reel, fishfinder, bait, or whatever it maybe, im overwhelmed with how complex things have gotten in my 30 years of fishing... Best advice I can give anyone is try to stay with the new trends and technologies because if you step out for just a moment...BAM!!!! your lost!!!! I just hope all the new fisherman who have taken on this great sport will practice catch and release and other good conservation methods!!!




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