Quantum... Why The Hate? 2024
Jsinkic reply :
Today I was at a local fishing store and I was looking for a 5.3:1 reel for cranking. I was talking to a few sponsored guys that where there and
I told them what I was looking for so they gave me a few options like abu and Lew's. I ended up going with the lee's because it felt like a solid reel and I liked how it felt not to mention the price wasn't to bad (plus the sale they were having). Anyways I asked what about quantum and they said they didn't even carry them but didn't say why. They kinda laughed and it was like I was supposed to know why...? I have a few quantums and i love mine so does anyone know why some people don't like them.
jbsoonerfan reply :
Because the letter Q is one of the least used consonants in the English language. Therefore people have some angst toward words that start with Q.
Not really, but that makes as much sense as most of the replies you are bound to get. I have used (actually still do some) a Quantum code red on a KVD rod and I think it is a fine reel.
bigbill reply :
I just purchased two quantum code reds in both ratios. Plus I also picked up a new outdated quantum Bill Dance baitcaster too.
I removed the solid brass bushing on the outer side of the spool and replaced it with a ball bearing. Why just for ha, ha' s I wanted to see if I could upgrade it. It is what it is.
The quantum were my first decent spinning reels I still have them in my museum.
Stingray23 reply :
There is no logical explanation for the hate. It mostly comes from the "JDM only" people that think they're gonna catch more fish with their stuff. Also, the clueless sheep that follow what others say. Like I've mentioned a million times here and everywhere else, I've fished Quantum only reels for over 20 yrs and I have never had one issue with any of them. They have never failed me on the water. I use the higher end, PT models. A lot of other people that fish Quantum will attest to what I said.
gulfcaptain reply :
maybe it's because they used to be associated with Zebco back in the day. I have more Quantum reels then any other brand. I love all of them, Code's, Accurist's, Knetic's, and now have one of the EXO's. Fish other brands as well, but these are my work horses and have never had to try and make them better and none have ever let me down.
smalljaw67 reply :
I don't hate and I really don't take others words on anything much when it comes to equipment, you can usually tell if someone truly has had a bad reel or reels and doesn't like a product or there may have been longevity issues but I see a lot of parroting like, "I had a Smoke and the flipping switch locked up and the handle stopped turning, never buy anything other than Shimano". I see a lot of that but I also see reviews that I did believe but I see it in all brands, to me it has to work and I have a few Quantum reels and they are fine. I will say that the Smoke is the best casting reel Quantum has ever made, I have a 100 SPT and a 150 HPT and they are really good reels, I have, in my regular line up, the 2 Smoke reels, I lews Tourney Pro, a Revo Premier 2nd generation and a Pflueger Supreme that was out for 2 years before being discontinued. The Smoke 150 retired my Daiwa TD-X, and I have no complaints about the other reels in the line up. I also have an Okuma Induron round reel and a V-Syetem and I can say Okuma reels have been good to me. I left 7 or 8 reels out because this is enough to make my point, that point is that out of all the brands I have used at different price levels, I really haven't had the horrible experiences others have, the only one was a Shimano Symetre spinning reel, I had 2 bad ones and a bad experience so I no longer buy Shimano but I know they make good stuff, I just hold a grudge but not everyone is like that, some feel they have to bash and Quantum gets a lot and I really haven't figured it out either.
A-Jay reply :
I own several and I'm a Fan.
They handle the domestic and international work load flawlessly.
A-Jay
MCS reply :
The quantums I used and own worked great. I plan on purchasing more. I think they are the most underrated reels. Issues I hear about are no different than issues other brands have time to time. Oh well their loss I love mine
jhoffman reply :
My guess is that it has a lot to do with quantum being sold by major retailers and the fact that the masses use them. This leads to more failures and more abuse. Ive never opened one up to see whats on the inside. Ive opened daiwas, shimanos, lews but no quantums. I had 4 $100 daiwas fail in one form or another in rapid succession. Now, I am very leary on buying another daiwa unless its reaching into the near $200+ range.
Really when it all boils down, if you open one baitcaster you opened them all. The design doesnt differ that much. Materials yes but design not really. Id take a smoke if I got a good deal on it and give it a run. I dont know personally but I have heard that quantums cheaper reels have some of the worst bearings in the industry.
LuckyHandsINC. reply :
I don't own any quantums and will admit to being scared away by the hate. Even though I know it's kind of nonsense I do believe rumors and stereotypes are rooted in some kind of truth somewhere. Even if it was along time ago.
However all the quantums I have ever fished have been very nice. They are great casters with very little effort. When I went to the fishing expo I looked at every new reel and liked the quantum tour mg the best by a big margin. I think eventually this will be the quantum that I finally break down and buy.
Alpha Male reply :
I currently only have spinning reels (Smoke pt30 & Accurist PT30) By FAR may favorite spinning reels! I didnt have the lsat gen Smoke baitcaster that I didnt like. DISCLAIMER: i bought it used and it wasnt as smooth as i thought a 200$ reel should be. and yes the smoke was the same as the Revo, Lews, and phlueger i have opened.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Quantum has some really nice design features as do each of the other name brands. The upper end reels seem smooth and free. The problem, in my experience, is that QC is lacking compared to the others. The finish is sometimes an issue, the Smoke gears get a little rough after relatively short for example. Other issues you wouldn't see or necessarily be a problem unless you work on the reel. The ones with the latch up by the level wind can be a bear to get the side plate off and are unessarily difficult to disassemble. Sometimes poor fit of parts makes reassembley harder than it should be. None of these are huge, but the market is terribly competetive with so many great reels they just miss the mark by a little bit. I kind of see them as the "worst of the best" so to speak. Every brand has fans and haters rightfully or not. If you like Quantums (or whatever) , buy and enjoy.
retiredbosn reply :
I currently have four, I really like my energy pt's, I also have a Kinetic and I used to have an Accurist. The best thing about Quantum is they always produce too many its really easy to get them cheap during winter when stores are clearing old stock. I only paid around 80 bucks each, NIB. Reels I've owned are, in no particular order, Shimamo Curado and Chronarch E series (still have the Chronarch), Pro Qualifiers (BPS), Abu Garcia round and lp (EXT Pro and Revo), and Lews Speed Spool MG. The quality of the Energy is as good or better than every reel I listed, the exception being the Chronarch/Curado but its close. I think allot of the bad rap comes from the low end reels that are sold at department stores.
FlipSide reply :
On 4/6/2014 at 10:56 AM, retiredbosn said:I currently have four, I really like my energy pt's, I also have a Kinetic and I used to have an Accurist. The best thing about Quantum is they always produce too many its really easy to get them cheap during winter when stores are clearing old stock. I only paid around 80 bucks each, NIB. Reels I've owned are, in no particular order, Shimamo Curado and Chronarch E series (still have the Chronarch), Pro Qualifiers (BPS), Abu Garcia round and lp (EXT Pro and Revo), and Lews Speed Spool MG. The quality of the Energy is as good or better than every reel I listed, the exception being the Chronarch/Curado but its close. I think allot of the bad rap comes from the low end reels that are sold at department stores.
I had an energy pt for 5 years. Never cleaned it once and it worked just fine up until I tried to take it apart and couldn't put it back together lol. It was my favorite reel until I bought a Lews tp. I also own shimano and Abu reels in the $200 price range.
IMO the stereotype is from the lower end reels sold pretty much everywhere that sells tackle.
mjseverson24 reply :
I have three brands that I really have been impressed with lately...
1) Daiwa----> I believe they are the most original and innovative reel company one the market... but they are expensive for what you get
2) Lews ----> the Superduty is one of the best work horse reels i have ever used... and they are affordable...
3) Quantum ----> Best bang for your buck... I have been buying the new model Kinetic PT putting hawgtech bearings and the Lews handle on them, once they are dialed in for the lure being used they outcast every reel I have ever used... including upgraded Daiwa T3's... are they super refined??? no... Are they the smoothest reel on the market??? No... Are they a reliable workhorse reel at a super affordable price(<60)??? Absolutely... this goes for the accurist, energy and smoke lineups as well... My biggest issue with quantum is the short handle that comes stock on most of their reels...
Mitch
Raul reply :
I don't "hate" the Q, I purchased 1 Q baitcasting reel many years ago and ..... I'll never purchase a Q again, also, I purchased a Q spinning rod, thank you for your service but .... No more. The lack of consistent quality in the brand is phenomenal. You like it or have luck with it ? Go ahead, me ? No more
Hogsticker reply :
JDM only people who think they are gonna catch more? That's not even remotely accurate and just ridiculous. As already mentioned there are a lot of QC issues with too many lemons. Fit, finish, longevity. There are just to many other options who have far less issues. And the big thing IMO Is the bulge on the side plate. Very uncomfortable compared to most other designs. I've seen some last years and others only weeks. I'm not much the gambling type, but its your money.
Arv reply :
tick tick tick...
frogflogger reply :
I bought quantums on sale at bps several times for clients use(I thought) now I'm ret'd from guiding - they still perform beautifully - paints worn off, handle nut covers missing - I use them all the time - absolutely no complaints - makes me wonder why I have $200-$300 reels.
iabass8 reply :
I was given a kinetic a year or so ago as a gift. I took a lot of flushing and removing all the shields but i got this 55$ reel to cast and retrieve like a dream. Im not a fan of the acs braking system but its fairly consistent and this reel will cast very well. I, however, would not ever buy one.
Darren. reply :
While I agree, there is hate for Quantum...and every other brand by brand lovers, my baitcasting adventures started with a BPS Tourney Pro (awful experience), then was "rescued" by Quantum via the Shaw Grigsby combo from DSG. Believe his reel is an Accurist, correct me if I'm wrong.
Bought another Accurist 570(?) later during a BPS Spring Classic. I barely use either of these anymore. I left Quantum for Shimano and Daiwa, and now, I'm back to Shimano. Chronarch 50e models, specifically on the BC side. Stradics, others on the spinning side. Never had a Quantum spinning reel although they have a nice feel to them - the models I have looked at.
I now choose to stick with Shimano due to the consistent quality I've had with them on the spinning side, and now the casting side. Daiwa is also good, the Lexas are a fine reel, although the recent experience i've had with mine soured me on any future purchases (of the baitcaster). Nonetheless, I loved it prior to the casting issue.
I think Quantum makes some of the best-looking reels on the market, I just won't buy one. Personal preference. So that makes me a Shimano brand guy, I suppose, but I won't pooh pooh someone else's decision to buy Quantum. If my opinion is asked, I'll give it. Everyone's experience will be unique.
Stingray23 reply :
On 4/6/2014 at 7:31 PM, Hogsticker said:JDM only people who think they are gonna catch more? That's not even remotely accurate and just ridiculous. As already mentioned there are a lot of QC issues with too many lemons. Fit, finish, longevity. There are just to many other options who have far less issues. And the big thing IMO Is the bulge on the side plate. Very uncomfortable compared to most other designs. I've seen some last years and others only weeks. I'm not much the gambling type, but its your money.
What I meant by that, is that the JDM crowd scoff at other brands that are not JDM. And that goes for rods, lures, line and whatever else. I couldnt care less about what anyone chooses to fish. I just dont like how false info is spread and the sheep believe it. The higher end Quantum PT line is great. The fit and finish and longevity on my reels is flawless. Dont blame the reel, blame the careless owners. Any reel will look like crap if not taken care of. I have a Quantum Pro 2C that I bought new in 1992. My first "real" baitcaster. Still looks new. Still performs flawlessly. In the end, buy what you like. We're all here to fish and have a good time.
SirSnookalot reply :
I really like my 3 Cabos. More to a reel company that just performance, service too. I had little problem with a Quantum Boca still under warranty. Quantum did not fix my reel, they sent me a new Cabo as replacement in 24 hours. Between the outstanding performance of their reels and the stellar customer service, I have love not hate for them.
Master Bait'r reply :
I bought a smoke spinning reel and the d**n thing squeaked so hard right out of the box I sent it right back. It sounded like a tiny little turkey call with every handle turn and although I'm sure it could have been remedied by taking it apart and greasing it all up but I'm not into that on a brand new reel. That was my last interaction with Quantum. For that much money, it should at least be better than that of a reel in a $35 DSG combo- and it was not.
For the same money, I like my Floog Supreme XT much MUCH better. Infinitely smoother operating and all the parts just look, feel and interact nicer than the smoke reel. So in the end it's not so much that I hate Quantum, it's just that at just about any price point I think there are better options.
Master Bait'r reply :
On 4/7/2014 at 1:10 AM, Stingray23 said:What I meant by that, is that the JDM crowd scoff at other brands that are not JDM. And that goes for rods, lures, line and whatever else.
That's just because people who know they may want to customize down the road or color coordinate for fun or "something special" will almost always go with a JDM reel. Go ahead, find me more custom handle options for a Quantum than a Shimano... Not gonna happen.
It's just another flavor in any case, there's no need to feel looked down on. Some people just like that flash and the sexiness of custom options for stuff. Can't blame them either, since they're not really spending a ton more on a JDM reel anyways in most cases. I would never purchase a Quantum over a Shimano of similar price. Just my .02.
Paul Peixoto reply :
I am not a fan of the acs braking system (it only has 4 adjustments in the smoke100) with that being said, i use the smoke for my frog rod. the thing cast a mile long. Its a little more difficult to dial in for weightless senkos for my untrained thumb lol but a good reel all around
S Hovanec reply :
I almost pulled the trigger on a Smoke 30 spinning reel yesterday, til I saw the CI-4 3000 on clearance next to it. I still need at least one more, so, maybe next time!
Tim Kelly reply :
Nearly all my reels are Shimano or Daiwa now. Every now and then I see a new reel by Quantum, Okuma or ABU and sometimes give one a try. Every time it has been a disappointment! They're either too heavy for their price point (compared to the equivalent D or S) or have some problem with the drive train after very little use and start feeling rough. How many times do you have to get burned before you stop poking the fire?
If these companies want to be taken seriously they need to stop producing rubbish! I was at a tackle show the other day and a sponsored guy proudly showed me his new $300 baitcaster. Black with gold and silver spots, the spool spun for ages on a flick and it weighed less than a butterfly's wing, but there was about 1/4" backplay in the handle. If you got a $300 D or S you wouldn't have that! The price points they choose to compete at are wrong. If that Okuma had been a $100 reel it would have been acceptable and it's other features would have made up for the poorly engineered AR bearing, but not for 3x the price.
smalljaw67 reply :
On 4/7/2014 at 11:05 PM, Tim Kelly said:Nearly all my reels are Shimano or Daiwa now. Every now and then I see a new reel by Quantum, Okuma or ABU and sometimes give one a try. Every time it has been a disappointment! They're either too heavy for their price point (compared to the equivalent D or S) or have some problem with the drive train after very little use and start feeling rough. How many times do you have to get burned before you stop poking the fire?
If these companies want to be taken seriously they need to stop producing rubbish! I was at a tackle show the other day and a sponsored guy proudly showed me his new $300 baitcaster. Black with gold and silver spots, the spool spun for ages on a flick and it weighed less than a butterfly's wing, but there was about 1/4" backplay in the handle. If you got a $300 D or S you wouldn't have that! The price points they choose to compete at are wrong. If that Okuma had been a $100 reel it would have been acceptable and it's other features would have made up for the poorly engineered AR bearing, but not for 3x the price.
Heavy??? This is what got me away from Daiwa reels, it seems Daiwa can't make a sub 8oz reel unless it is $400 and go ahead and look, they seem to have forgotten how to work with aluminum as all the other companies have passed Daiwa when it comes to aluminum models. I will be the first to admit, that in the high end line Daiwa is tough to beat, to me they are the most innovative but Shimano, Abu Garcia, Lews, Pflueger, and even Quantum can make good solid aluminum baitcasting reels that are under 8 ounces in weight. I remember the names of a few people hammering Ardent reels because of how "heavy" they were and they are so far behind making these reels and then the same people, who will also remain nameless, were singing the praises of the Tatula, the Tatula is a BRICK!!!! It is wide, clumsy and is HEAVY, and it some how gets a pass from brand loyalist. I have no dog in this fight, I own 3 Quantums, 2 Abu Garcias, 1 Lews, 2 Okumas, 3 Daiwas, 1 Pflueger, and 1 Mitchell, these are the casting reels I own and the only brand I don't have is Shimano because I was told to buy another a better reel by their customer service after I had 2 Symetre spinning reels break within 1 month of each other. I don't bash Shimano because I know they make some good reels but I will never buy anymore because of how I was treated because to me, $100 is a mid tier spinning reel and if your customer service thinks my problem is their "cheap" reel, then it is obvious they don't value me as a customer for not buying the Stella and to me, every customer needs to be treated with respect. That is my only bash and only in these cases do I bring it up but plese don't say you use Daiwa because other reels are heavy and don't compare a $400+ Steez to a $150 work horse from another brand, Daiwa is trying to gain share in the mid tier market and while doing a dencent job, they still have catching up to do because they seem to have forgot that market and it shows, like I said, 8oz reels are a thing of the past and Daiwa can't make a sub 8oz reel anymore unless it is over $300 and made of Zaion or Magnesium, the Tatula is a brick and the Lexa is $40 too high for what you actually get other than the name, sorry.
Tim Kelly reply :
I was actually thinking of the spinning reels with reference to weight. You can get an excellent Daiwa 2500 aird reel for about £80 and it weighs something like 8.5oz. A similar sized ABU soron at much more money is over 10oz. My aird is still acceptably smooth, my soron lasted about a month before developing a tick in the drivechain. If you look at the spinning reels you'll find that until very recently most of the "other" manufacturers reels were 10oz + for a 2500 size, where even the cheapest Shimanos and Daiwas were under 10. Makes a difference with light spinning outfits.
Baitcasters, I don't mind if they've got a little more heft, but still an 8oz baitcaster is really not that heavy on a rod you will generally be fishing heavier techniques.
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 4/7/2014 at 11:57 PM, smalljaw67 said:Heavy??? This is what got me away from Daiwa reels, it seems Daiwa can't make a sub 8oz reel unless it is $400 and go ahead and look, they seem to have forgotten how to work with aluminum as all the other companies have passed Daiwa when it comes to aluminum models. I will be the first to admit, that in the high end line Daiwa is tough to beat, to me they are the most innovative but Shimano, Abu Garcia, Lews, Pflueger, and even Quantum can make good solid aluminum baitcasting reels that are under 8 ounces in weight. I remember the names of a few people hammering Ardent reels because of how "heavy" they were and they are so far behind making these reels and then the same people, who will also remain nameless, were singing the praises of the Tatula, the Tatula is a BRICK!!!! It is wide, clumsy and is HEAVY, and it some how gets a pass from brand loyalist. I have no dog in this fight, I own 3 Quantums, 2 Abu Garcias, 1 Lews, 2 Okumas, 3 Daiwas, 1 Pflueger, and 1 Mitchell, these are the casting reels I own and the only brand I don't have is Shimano because I was told to buy another a better reel by their customer service after I had 2 Symetre spinning reels break within 1 month of each other. I don't bash Shimano because I know they make some good reels but I will never buy anymore because of how I was treated because to me, $100 is a mid tier spinning reel and if your customer service thinks my problem is their "cheap" reel, then it is obvious they don't value me as a customer for not buying the Stella and to me, every customer needs to be treated with respect. That is my only bash and only in these cases do I bring it up but plese don't say you use Daiwa because other reels are heavy and don't compare a $400+ Steez to a $150 work horse from another brand, Daiwa is trying to gain share in the mid tier market and while doing a dencent job, they still have catching up to do because they seem to have forgot that market and it shows, like I said, 8oz reels are a thing of the past and Daiwa can't make a sub 8oz reel anymore unless it is over $300 and made of Zaion or Magnesium, the Tatula is a brick and the Lexa is $40 too high for what you actually get other than the name, sorry.
Just so you will be a little bit more educated the next time you decide to post misinformation. The Tatula weighs 7.9 oz and the Tatula Type R weighs 7.6. In my most recent brush with math, those are both under 8 oz. The Curado I (which is already being hailed as the GREATEST reel ever) also weighs 7.6 oz.
I own 4 tatulas and they don't feel any heavier than my Citicas or Curado G series reels. However, I am not one of those guys who can tell the difference in .3 oz or the equivalent of a few quarters.
So, I wouldn't consider 7.9 oz a BRICK, but what do I know, I actually use them instead of just picking one up in the store and have to worry about crying over the sheer weight of 7.9 oz almost crushing my hand.
A-Jay reply :
On 4/6/2014 at 4:42 AM, Jsinkic said:Today I was at a local fishing store and I was looking for a 5.3:1 reel for cranking. I was talking to a few sponsored guys that where there and
I told them what I was looking for so they gave me a few options like abu and Lew's. I ended up going with the lee's because it felt like a solid reel and I liked how it felt not to mention the price wasn't to bad (plus the sale they were having). Anyways I asked what about quantum and they said they didn't even carry them but didn't say why. They kinda laughed and it was like I was supposed to know why...? I have a few quantums and i love mine so does anyone know why some people don't like them.
Interesting sentiment. There's a certain "sponsored" angler from Michigan who has been using Quantum Tackle for quite a while. He seems to do OK with that laughable gear. Additionally, he can't seem to find the time to hang out at the local shop, too busy winning Classics. Those guys must know something he doesn't . . . . . . . .
A-Jay
Stingray23 reply :
On 4/7/2014 at 9:54 PM, Master Bait said:That's just because people who know they may want to customize down the road or color coordinate for fun or "something special" will almost always go with a JDM reel. Go ahead, find me more custom handle options for a Quantum than a Shimano... Not gonna happen.
It's just another flavor in any case, there's no need to feel looked down on. Some people just like that flash and the sexiness of custom options for stuff. Can't blame them either, since they're not really spending a ton more on a JDM reel anyways in most cases. I would never purchase a Quantum over a Shimano of similar price. Just my .02.
Hardly. Like I said, I dont care what people use, I just dont like misinformation to be spread. And its always from the shimano and daiwa guys.
roadwarrior reply :
What is the "misinformation" you are referring to?
Shimano and Diawa build great products which includes
superior design and engineering, components and craftmanship
and most notably, quality control.
Master Bait'r reply :
On 4/8/2014 at 1:22 AM, Stingray23 said:Hardly. Like I said, I dont care what people use, I just dont like misinformation to be spread. And its always from the shimano and daiwa guys.
Well for the record I think Quantums are inferior to Lew's and Pfleuger too... and don't own either Daiwa or Shimano reels. 
AK-Jax86 reply :
There are "fanboys" out there all over that will either over hype or over hate brands.
I have 3 Abu Garcia Reels (Silvermax & Revo STX baitcasts, and Orra spinning) heard a bunch of fanboys knocking Abu. I have 2 Quantum Smoke spinning reels (25 & 30) head a bunch of fanboys knocking Quantum. And I have a Pflueger Patriarch spinning reel.
I ABSOLUTLY love my smoke reels hence why I have 2, got the 30 for a steal with a Abu Garcia Veritas rod (heard bad things from fanboys too about this rod lol I love it too).
I plan on getting the smoke baitcast reel when I master it more... I am starting with the Silvermax to get the hang of it right now and then the STX when the frog bite turns back on!
But like I said I am a huge fan of the Quantum reels especially the Smoke series.
Raul reply :
Like I said I owned a Q, I also own several Abu reels from the 80´s and after the XLT & Cardinal series from that era Abu took a nose dive from the ugly tree, I got a Törno and it was probably, in the company of that Q the worse reel I´ve ever owned, hell, even a Silstar reel I had was better than those, until the Revos I wouldn´t have purchased an Abu low profile ever again. Daiwa did have some flaws too, that computerized reel ..........innovative and pieceofcrappy.
Every rose has it´s thorn.
Stingray23 reply :
On 4/8/2014 at 1:42 AM, Master Bait said:Well for the record I think Quantums are inferior to Lew's and Pfleuger too... and don't own either Daiwa or Shimano reels.
Well, for the record, I think its all in your head.
Stingray23 reply :
On 4/8/2014 at 1:36 AM, roadwarrior said:What is the "misinformation" you are referring to?
Shimano and Diawa build great products which includes
superior design and engineering, components and craftmanship
and most notably, quality control.
The misinformation is that their CS sucks, the build quality is inferior, they stop working right away, stuff like that.
mjseverson24 reply :
they apparently last long enough for a few very good pro's to win millions of dollars fishing them...
Mitch
MCS reply :
On 4/8/2014 at 2:28 AM, Stingray23 said:The misinformation is that their CS sucks, the build quality is inferior, they stop working right away, stuff like that.
Bro it is ok, some people need to make themselves feel better for paying $400 so their reels can weigh less than a brick and they can pay another $100 in parts for the reel because they didnt like the parts it was engineered with lol. It helps them sleep better. Leaves more quantums for us. Bwahahaha
It is kinda, no exactly, like Ford/chevy/dodge versus Honda/toyota.
roadwarrior reply :
Shimano is renown for both customer service and quality build.
Strong, smooth, silent and reliant. A reputation built over time with
a broad following of talented anglers. In popularity polls conducted
here over the past decade or so, it always arounf 60+% Shimano
versus the combined field.
Master Bait'r reply :
On 4/8/2014 at 2:28 AM, Stingray23 said:The misinformation is that their CS sucks, the build quality is inferior, they stop working right away, stuff like that.
Oh mine worked... They even included a turkey call into the gearing at no extra charge! I mean, that right there is something Shimano can't mess with, that's for sure. Yep, once fishing season is over, just bring that smoke reel out into the field and give it a few cranks, those toms will be strutting in no time hahaha
I kid, but seriously... I bought a pretty expensive reel from Quantum and it came up WAY short of even my pretty low expectations. It didn't even work as nice as my cheapo combo reels I had bought up until then. Oh well. I'm pretty sure I got a lemon but oh well, that's why they should step it up- Most people won't give them a second shot when there are so many awesome alternatives.
Also, KVD could outfish all of us with a snoopy pole, dry rotted mono and a stiff gulp minnow.
jbsoonerfan reply :
So why does KVD choose Quantum? Do they pay more than the others? I would think they couldn't since they produce junk that nobody wants.
bflp3 reply :
On 4/8/2014 at 4:13 AM, jbsoonerfan said:So why does KVD choose Quantum? Do they pay more than the others? I would think they couldn't since they produce junk that nobody wants.
Well, he's not doing it to be nice.
mjseverson24 reply :
^^^ no its because he believes in their product, and they are happy to pay him to fish it...
Mitch
Nice_Bass reply :
I think I own a couple of almost every major brand of reel some cheap some way too expensive. I will say for one thing, the quantum's I did have actually did suck. I kind of figured it was due to that years line/styling, bad batch, whatever you want to call it- but it was enough that now I buy and use everything but quantum. I am sure if I bought another it would be just fine, but I don't think I will ever find out. no real reason to.
John G reply :
On 4/8/2014 at 4:13 AM, jbsoonerfan said:So why does KVD choose Quantum? Do they pay more than the others? I would think they couldn't since they produce junk that nobody wants.
I hope KVD isn't using the WalMart combo that carries his name!
I consider myself to be very proficient at using a baitcaster and trying to cast using that combo made me look like a rookie!
smalljaw67 reply :
On 4/8/2014 at 12:13 AM, jbsoonerfan said:Just so you will be a little bit more educated the next time you decide to post misinformation. The Tatula weighs 7.9 oz and the Tatula Type R weighs 7.6. In my most recent brush with math, those are both under 8 oz. The Curado I (which is already being hailed as the GREATEST reel ever) also weighs 7.6 oz.
I own 4 tatulas and they don't feel any heavier than my Citicas or Curado G series reels. However, I am not one of those guys who can tell the difference in .3 oz or the equivalent of a few quarters.
So, I wouldn't consider 7.9 oz a BRICK, but what do I know, I actually use them instead of just picking one up in the store and have to worry about crying over the sheer weight of 7.9 oz almost crushing my hand.
I will say this once, I'm not going to argue but almost every reel will be off 2 tenths of an ounce which makes no difference in my book. The Tatula is listed at 7.9, actual weight is over 8 and that was confirmed by Tackle Tour and as for telling the difference in weight of a few quarters, on a sub 4oz rod, you will notice 1/2oz really easy unless you don't want to. I own Daiwa reels, I have nothing against them, the point I'm making is there are those who mocked and ridiculed the Ardent elite or one of those as being an 8oz brick and the same person claimed that the Tatula was so aweome and I find it funny how one company makes an 8oz reel and it is a brick while another is perfectly fine. Not only the weight but also the width, if you can't tell that the Tatula in noticabley wider than a Citica or Curado then perhaps you are biased, I have no brand loyalty when it comes to fishing reels which is why I have all but Shimano and I was wanting a Tatula because I like reels in the $120 to $200 range but the $150 to $175 is the magic mark where you get performance and some refinement and when it came out I was really mad at Daiwa, another sub $300 dollar reel that is large and after using the Abu Garcia 2nd generation Revo Premier, the Lews Tournament pro, and the Quantum Smoke the Tatula feels like a brick, sorry. I have, and love my Team Daiwa Advantage but when they came out with the Steez they dropped the ball on work horse reels, the Aggrest was over priced junk, the Lexa isn't bad and at right around $100 isn't bad but others make better in that range and the Tatula may be a great reel, it probably is an excellent reel but too big and clumsy for me and while Daiwa is slowly learning how to do better in this price range they are still behind Abu Garcia and pure fishing in general. The whole deal is that we all have personal preference, but there are a lot of claims and bad reviews but on certain brands by brand loyalists, it is always going to happen.
FishinDaddy reply :
I have two KVD quantums. I bought them on sale a few years ago for $100 a piece. I have 7 Revo SX's that cost around $140 each. If I pick up one of the KVD's after fishing with a revo if feels like a cheap piece of plastic not solid at all. But that's not a fair comparison.
My buddy has a PT smoke that was $200 which fishes great. If I fish with it and them pick up a Revo, the Revo feels like a brick. Again, not a fair comparison.
I would probably not buy one again, (just a personal preference) but they are good reels in their price point. I have had zero problems with mine.
A-Jay reply :
These brand threads serve No purpose and routinely illicit the same type of responses that Political & Religious threads receive.
Asking members to list why they Hate something and then being surprised by the negative responses seems seriously counter productive.
A-Jay
jhoffman reply :
Lets be honest here folks. KVD is one of the if not the best angler on the planet. Yeah he has a quantum deal but lets say they ship him a case and a half of them and one breaks. What does he do? He probably has a 55 gallon drum full of broken quantums, not his problem.
Id fish em too if I could use them like toilet paper without worry. Id fish any reel for that deal.
bflp3 reply :
Seriously, KVD's name is everywhere. Its pretty clear he will put his name on anything for the right price. I take anything a paid spokesman says about the product he is paid to sell with a tiny, tiny grain of salt. Ike's not fishing cheap Abu rods because he loves them, this is how these guys make a living. Linder and Bill Dance also are sponsored by Quantum, so its obvious they have a large sponsorship budget (or blew it all on a few expensive names).Lets be honest here folks. KVD is one of the if not the best angler on the planet. Yeah he has a quantum deal but lets say they ship him a case and a half of them and one breaks. What does he do? He probably has a 55 gallon drum full of broken quantums, not his problem.
Id fish em too if I could use them like toilet paper without worry. Id fish any reel for that deal.
I've never fished a Quantum anything, but they don't really have anything that catches my eye in my price range. I am intrigued by the Exo lineup, but they are out of my price range, and I've also seen a lot of negative reviews.
jbsoonerfan reply :
Not only the weight but also the width, if you can't tell that the Tatula in noticabley wider than a Citica or Curado then perhaps you are biased,
I guess I am biased that I can't tell that the Tatula is noticeably wider. But here are a couple pics for you to point out the vast differences.
HUUUUGE difference, lol. Once again though, this is an actual example of the size. Not internet talk.
bflp3 reply :
I think what makes the Tatula feel wider is that while most reels taper in at the line guide, the Tatula tapers outward. The Tatula is at the top of my list for reels I want to get, but I still thought it felt wider than what I'm used to when handling it in store.
iabass8 reply :
Not only the weight but also the width, if you can't tell that the Tatula in noticabley wider than a Citica or Curado then perhaps you are biased, I have no brand loyalty when it comes to
That Tatula is just about the exact same width as the Curado and Tatula. It's height off the reel seat is the issue some people have. how it tapers in the middle to the top isn't for everyone.
SirSnookalot reply :
With exception of one brand, that being Pflueger, every single reel I own has needed repair work at some time, including Quantum, Shimano and Daiwa. I'm not condemning any of these companies, but I have needed repairs on items that I wonder why they failed. Bails that get floppy, have a reel in service for that right now, line stacking problems, anti reverse not working properly and bearings that have been corroded. I have dealt with companies that have addressed these problems in a professional manner with super fast service, also companies with a less than stellar performance with customer service. That doesn't mean I won't by their product again, just know what to expect. I'm passed the point of thinking that if a reel is smoother and lighter it's better. As of late my most used combo is a 14 oz Cabo reel on an 8' rod that weight nearly 10 oz, it feels really good and I've been banging out some real nice fish with. Is this reel as smooth as some others, no it isn't, but when a 20# + fish is on the line that's when I really appreciate it. As much distaste that I have for Shimano I'm going to buy another, it is a very a smooth reel but that isn't the reason. I've yet to have a windknot on any Shimano product, I get ton of them freshwater fishing. I'm not overly concerned with durability, freshwater fishing doesn't seem to take the same kind of toll on my equipment.
Grantman83 reply :
Can we just say that quantum seems to be more polarizing compared to shimano, daiwa, Abu even lews?
Those 4 seem to receive almost universal acclaim whereas quantum has a rep which falls on both sides.
1.I have owned 5 quantum reels at one point. The smoke 100 I used for one season and it performed well. However, the sideplate was d**n near impossible to take off. It was also finicky on the cast. The smoke 150 was loud and geary out of the box and got returned.
2. I had a tour pt (old silver finish and $300) and it was okay. Nothin get to write home about. To give a comparison, the chronarch d's I have were 300 and are vastly superior, ditto to the $300 zillions I have. No contest.
3. I bought a smoke spinning reel which I returned THAT day for a stradic fj which also was much smoother and quieter.
4. A DSG shaw grigsby accurist that was my first "nice" reel. Heavy but it was solid. Big props to this reel.
Overall, not the best in my book and I won't buy again. I also found the bulge to be very uncomfortable for me. To show I'm not a fanboy, I sold my tatula the day after I got it because I found it uncomfortable to hold so I do apply the same standards to other companies. Same reason I wouldn't buy a new revo because of how the gearbox sits.
Regarding sponsorships, you can just throw it out the window. They are salesmen for their product. KVD can get a new reel any time he wants and doesn't have to worry about longevity. Ditto skeet reese with his reels/rods. I don't buy into sponsorships even with guys who are sponsored by brands I use. They could outfish us with any rod, reel or line because they are THAT good, regardless of gear. Look at Edwin Evers who uses pro qualifiers and carbonlite rods vs Ish Monroe who is fishing STEEZ rods and reels. One guy may do well once and awhile, but the other guy is always near the top.
roadwarrior reply :
All good points. Equipment has very little to do with "catching', but it can make
the "fishing" more enjoyable. What I am always looking for is consistancy. With
Shimano it's basically one and done. I have recently started fishing Pinnacle
and have had a similar experience once the reels are dialed in.
.ghoti. reply :
I've had several Quantum reels. Three of the 600 series PT casting reels; the first reels designated PT; three of the 700 series PT casting; and two PT spinning reels.
All were solid performers. I had no problems with any of them. All were in good working order when I sold them. A buddy of mine bought the three 600 reels, and they are all still working just fine.
I still have the two spinning reels. They are my wife's reels, and they are still going strong ten years in.
rawjuice reply :
I currently own a couple quantums, an older spinning reel Quantum Pulse which i used for a few years, now sits in my closet but still works and I have a quantum code burner baitcast that I have owned for 5 years and still to this day use it on my frog rod because it still works great!!
Although, I do think they are good, their are times when I check some out at the store wether its display model or even one in the box, there has been many times that they dont feel right, but, the ones i do own, are great. Its all about keeping up and clean/oil religiously!!
Cgrinder reply :
If the smoke had a fifth ACS setting, I would be loving it. My only gripe with the smoke 100 is that I can't go under 3/8 oz with it. It's either the third setting with too much brake or the second setting with backlash city. It's possible that I am spoiled by VBS and magforce but I just can't make it work. Nice light and smooth reel otherwise.
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