White Rod Invisible To Fish? 2024
Felix77 reply :
A friend of mine bought the Duckett and Veritas rods on two separate purchases. He said he is slowly converting to white rods because the fish can't see it. When the fish looks up it sees the sky, clouds or the waves which all have white tones to them. As opposed to a black rod which shows up as a big contrast in the sky.
IMO it doesn't matter what color the rod is. All of them will contrast against the sun exactly the same and look black.
Who's right?
What's your take on this idea?
J Francho reply :
It's a VERY silly notion.
PABASS reply :
If a bass is looking up at me holding my rod that means the bass is on my line already, sounds like your friend is having some fun.. With that said I do wear earth tone colors when I fish especially clear waters..
0119 reply :
Fly fishermen had to have black anodized reels, they said the silver ones were detected by the fish. So white rods would be more detectable than black ones, with that logic. Id say a fish is most likely to see my "majestic" sized physique before he noticed the stick in my hand.
Felix77 reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 12:28 AM, 119 said:Fly fishermen had to have black anodized reels, they said the silver ones were detected by the fish. So white rods would be more detectable than black ones, with that logic. Id say a fish is most likely to see my "majestic" sized physique before he noticed the stick in my hand.
... Exactly! LOL
Felix77 reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 12:21 AM, PABASS said:If a bass is looking up at me holding my rod that means the bass is on my line already, sounds like your friend is having some fun.. With that said I do wear earth tone colors when I fish especially clear waters..
He was dead serious! I tried convincing him otherwise but I guess it all boils down to confidence.
webertime reply :
Shiny white surface, no glare reflecting into the water for bass to see there... Especially standing on the red/gold/green/blue/white/silver flaked boat hull.
Felix77 reply :
Decided to do some research on the Aby Veritas rod and found a quote which described why they chose white ...
"Abu Garcia did not pick the color white out of a hat. They looked at the history of rod colors and the two most common classic colors were black and white. And as mentioned earlier the name Veritas, truth, purity, and white all go together. BMW owners might appreciate this as the white isn't just any white. This is actually the same BMW car paint color called Alpine White III (color code 300). If you look at the overall rod and it's color scheme, it's very attractive compared to say the unnamed white rods with clear guide wraps. The black wraps on the guides on the Veritas along with the unique handle and graphics put on the blank all give it a nice appeal."
Veritas = Truth, purity = white color. Nothing more ... nothing less.
So does this mean that fishing this rod = driving a white BMW??? 
SudburyBasser reply :
I used to drive a BMW and this sounds like just the dbag thing that a BMW owner who works for Abu would probably say.
flyfisher reply :
Seems silly to me but hey whatever floats your boat. I mean you are standing in a boat that is huge and the fish are going to get scared because of a small sliver in the air that is black, green, white or whatever?
PABASS reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 1:26 AM, flyfisher said:Seems silly to me but hey whatever floats your boat. I mean you are standing in a boat that is huge and the fish are going to get scared because of a small sliver in the air that is black, green, white or whatever?
But that is why boat bottoms are white because the fish see them as a cloud, since fish know what clouds are, right.... lol
flyfisher reply :
I have seen sky blue rods for inshore fishing under the same premise of blending in with the sky
J Francho reply :
Mind blowing.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
I think a fish would worry more about the 16-21ft aircraft carrier about to buzz its dorsal fin. 
If you are close enough to a fish that the color of your rod is going to scare it away, you either got too close to begin with or you weren't going to catch that fish in the first place.
00 mod reply :
I fish colored rods, because they look like the different airplanes flying through the sky.
Jeff
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 1:47 AM, 00 mod said:I fish colored rods, because they look like the different airplanes flying through the sky.
Jeff
You sure your rainbow rods aren't for something else? LOL
tomustang reply :
Whenever I hear/see reasons like this I think of Pink Floyd and Acid..
B@ssCrzy reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 1:47 AM, 00 mod said:I fish colored rods, because they look like the different airplanes flying through the sky.
Jeff
Hahaha..... 
That is quality stuff!!
To answer the question...If they are close enough to see my fishing rod they are close enough to see my fat gut. I think the latter would be more frightening.
Dave P reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 12:28 AM, 119 said:Fly fishermen had to have black anodized reels, they said the silver ones were detected by the fish. So white rods would be more detectable than black ones, with that logic. Id say a fish is most likely to see my "majestic" sized physique before he noticed the stick in my hand.
While they (and by they, I mean me) throw neon green line with blaze orange backing. That's why they make mat black forceps and line clippers too. Might be an issue if you are fishing at close quarters in the smokies or somewhere like that. On a tailwater or lake, I really don't think that's an issue. It got me curious, so I looked. My flyrod blanks are black, maroon, green, blue, dark red and kind of a burnt orange. The reels are black, gunmetal and two silvers.
Darren. reply :
Strikes me as humorous.
Colors may blend with the clouds, sky, but I don't think the fish see too many super thin, linear clouds that are 6'6" long that close to the water, moving in erratic motions.
Of course, the smart fish obviously see things differently... 
Teal reply :
Thats the craziest thing i ever heard.
flyfisher reply :
Now I will say that I like my veritas for river trips because they are much easier to see if you turtle your kayak and the rod decides to take a swim 
Darren. reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 7:14 AM, flyfisher said:Now I will say that I like my veritas for river trips because they are much easier to see if you turtle your kayak and the rod decides to take a swim
That's probably the best reason right there! 
MarkH024 reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 12:09 AM, J Francho said:It's a VERY silly notion.
This
00 mod reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 1:48 AM, SPEEDBEAD. said:You sure your rainbow rods aren't for something else? LOL
I thought you bought the last of my rainbow rods? Said they were for you and your "friends"??
Jeff
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 9:59 AM, 00 mod said:I thought you bought the last of my rainbow rods? Said they were for you and your "friends"??
Jeff
If by "friends" you mean the Megastrike crew, then yes those rods were for them. LMAO
DINK WHISPERER reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 1:37 AM, PABASS said:But that is why boat bottoms are white because the fish see them as a cloud, since fish know what clouds are, right.... lol
Crap, my boat bottom is black! No wonder i aint catchin em....
Jay Ell Gee reply :
Your friend needs to man up and invest in some W&M S-Glass series rods. Ninja cranking action on the cheap, on clearance at TW!
deaknh03 reply :
What about night fishing?
katmandew reply :
Even if you had an invisible rod, if they are that close and looking up, they will see the boat.
xbacksideslider reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 1:23 AM, SudburyBasser said:I used to drive a BMW and this sounds like just the dbag thing that a BMW owner who works for Abu would probably say.
Now THAT is funny
On the other hand, did you ever point at a crow and watch him fly away in fear?
Maybe there are some angles, some fish eye points of view, where they can see a long black rod flailing around against the sky, while the reflection off the underside of the surface, from their point of view, prevents them from seeing the boat or the angler.
I mean, when you are under water, you can see the sky fairly well if you are looking straight up, but if you look off to the side, all you see is the underside of the surface, like a mirror.
J Francho reply :
If anyone thinks a bass sees anything the way we see it, they're missing a ton.
xbacksideslider reply :
I didn't say that. I didn't say anything about "the way we see."
Search you tube - Bill Siemantel on "window paning" - how angles/perspective matters.
Can't paste the youtube link, or I would.
J Francho reply :
I'm talking in general. If I meant "you," then I would have quoted you. That my post followed yours is purely coincidental.
Maico1 reply :
On 3/6/2013 at 11:50 PM, Felix77 said:A friend of mine bought the Duckett and Veritas rods on two separate purchases. He said he is slowly converting to white rods because the fish can't see it. When the fish looks up it sees the sky, clouds or the waves which all have white tones to them. As opposed to a black rod which shows up as a big contrast in the sky.
IMO it doesn't matter what color the rod is. All of them will contrast against the sun exactly the same and look black.
Who's right?
What's your take on this idea?
Just curious did your friend by a white jump suit to go along with his rods......
Felix77 reply :
On 3/8/2013 at 2:41 AM, Maico1 said:Just curious did your friend by a white jump suit to go along with his rods......
Now that's funny!!!
I don't think so but I am going to "strongly" recommend that he do it. At the very least white pants and a white shirt. I will tell him I researched it and found that it works. If I get a picture of it this spring I will post pictures. LOL
If he ever joins Bassresource and finds this post I am dead meat ... 
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
Get him to put on the "white suit" and then tell him he doesn't look enough like the sky. Produce some blue spray paint and offer to "camo him up a bit" as you heard that this can directly lead to putting more fish in the boat. Insist that it is in his best interest and then take pics, explaining to him that he is an innovator and you want to show others how well they can catch fish.
Wow, what a slow day at work....
BrettD reply :
This thread My stomach is burning Im lauging so hard.
Felix77 reply :
On 3/8/2013 at 4:16 AM, SPEEDBEAD. said:Get him to put on the "white suit" and then tell him he doesn't look enough like the sky. Produce some blue spray paint and offer to "camo him up a bit" as you heard that this can directly lead to putting more fish in the boat. Insist that it is in his best interest and then take pics, explaining to him that he is an innovator and you want to show others how well they can catch fish.
Wow, what a slow day at work....
This brought me to tears ... I can't breathe I am laughing so hard!
WRB reply :
Same silly thinking that red hooks are invisible to bass when bass see colors better then we do!
Tom
slonezp reply :
If I pee off the side of the boat does the bass think its a lemonade fountain?
tomustang reply :
So I wonder if a red rod looks likes it bleeding or invisible if it drops in 
mod479 reply :
How do people get away using carrot stix then? BLAZE ORANGE...
This thread was gold, thanks fellas.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
On 3/8/2013 at 10:57 AM, slonezp said:If I pee off the side of the boat does the bass think its a lemonade fountain?
Only if you are well hydrated.
I like when my medications turn it the neon color of Mt. Dew. I basically can't go fishing because who wouldn't love a Mt. Dew fountain?
S Hovanec reply :
I don't buy it being invisible to fish, but a white rod would be more visible and easier to locate if you happen to toss it overboard!
Maico1 reply :
On 3/8/2013 at 4:16 AM, SPEEDBEAD. said:Get him to put on the "white suit" and then tell him he doesn't look enough like the sky. Produce some blue spray paint and offer to "camo him up a bit" as you heard that this can directly lead to putting more fish in the boat. Insist that it is in his best interest and then take pics, explaining to him that he is an innovator and you want to show others how well they can catch fish.
Wow, what a slow day at work....
This same thought went through my head as well.........
Blues19 reply :
It takes a complex mind to come up with that thought. Anyway, the white would look grey because the sun is not shining on the bottom of the rod, its shaded by the top of the rod.
xbacksideslider reply :
I've done too much bank fishing, too much sight fishing; I know that, depending on where the sun is, wiley fish look for and can see what's going on above the surface of the water. Ever see a fish dive when a bird flies overhead?
The fact that bait fish have white bellies is relevant too. Their silvery sides may also offer camoflage relative to the mirrory underside of the surface when viewed from some angles from below; this depends on the sun's position relative to the point of view of the predator fish and the location of the bait fish. Bait fish, and predator fish, play those angles.
So, IMO, when the angles are right, a fish's eye can see and will be drawn to that motion, that stick waving around, in the air. Most predators' eyes evolved to detect and focus on movement.
Jig Meister reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 1:41 AM, J Francho said:Mind blowing.
mind bottling.
Jig Meister reply :
if you really want your rod to look like the sky, you can have all the wallpaper from the house I just bought, it is 80's sky patterned wall paper, and would be great rod camo for you buddy
S Hovanec reply :
Those white rods still throw a shadow! Don't let my comment make you think that I'm against white rods though. Actually, I'm gonna build myself a couple once I get caught up. Only because I think they look cool looking
TBendBassin reply :
Somebody kill this thread please!!! This is just ridiculous
JohnnyRebTX reply :
I'm resurrecting this old thread for a different reason. I have considered switching to all white blanks because I fish a lot at night. I fish for catfish and bass from the bank, and I can see the white rods better under the moonlight.
I use minnows on bobbers, and chicken liver a lot.
NYWayfarer reply :
On 3/24/2018 at 12:16 AM, JohnnyRebTX said:I'm resurrecting this old thread for a different reason. I have considered switching to all white blanks because I fish a lot at night. I fish for catfish and bass from the bank, and I can see the white rods better under the moonlight.
I use minnows on bobbers, and chicken liver a lot.
You would see a Berkley Glow Stick at night even better.
http://www.berkley-fishing.com/berkley-rods-casting-rods-berkley-glowstik/berkley-glowstik-casting/1405223.html#start=1
JohnnyRebTX reply :
Thanks. I own one Berkley Glowstik, and the rod stopped glowing after one year of use. I wished that part lasted longer. Otherwise it's a decent rod for mid to small cats. I own the old version, and I see they updated the rod since. I may give the new one a look.
Otherwise I'm considering Ugly Stik Catfish, Okuma Battlecats, and Team Catfish Thundercat spinning for their white blanks for catfishing.
Then Abu Garcia Veritas, Duckett Ghosts, and Shimano Sellus rods for their white blanks for bass.
BassWhole! reply :
On 3/6/2013 at 11:50 PM, Felix77 said:A friend of mine bought the Duckett and Veritas rods on two separate purchases. He said he is slowly converting to white rods because the fish can't see it. When the fish looks up it sees the sky, clouds or the waves which all have white tones to them. As opposed to a *** which shows up as a big contrast in the sky.
IMO it doesn't matter what color the rod is. All of them will contrast against the sun exactly the same and look black.
Who's right?
What's your take on this idea?
It's actually a thing, but he's got it backwards, most fish will see a rod against a green, brown or other neutral color. Unless its deep and straight up and down which will negate the effect anyway. I have spooked fish with a cast before, and white is way more visible to fish than darker more neutrall colors. It's really only an isue in secluded clear water locations though.
Further North reply :
On 3/7/2013 at 12:09 AM, J Francho said:It's a VERY silly notion.
A-yup. Just nuts...
Fish don't spend a lot of time swimming around looking up through the water's surface for fishing rods...
...but if it boosts his confidence and helps him catch fish...don't tell him...it'd be mean.
Turkey sandwich reply :
I was hoping this thread would turn to rival the Sasquatch thread. I'm sorely disappointed 
Burke reply :
So....White Rods are the "FAD" of today's fishing ?
Im sticking with my black rods. They are just like ninjas, gotta keep avoid detection using a variety of the stealth approach.
FishDewd reply :
Lol this is funny!
There is a problem with the logic proposed by the OP's friend, based on what physics tells us. I would think if anything that a white rod would stand out more more than a black one. Allow me to explain. Colors do have characteristics when it comes to light and heat. Light colored surfaces (namely white, chrome, etc) are known to be poor absorbers of heat/light but good reflectors. Darker colors (black, brown, dark greens) are the opposite. These are good absorbers and poor reflectors. So when it comes to contrast: both would create a shadow looking up from below the water since the rods are going to block a tiny portion of sunlight, but the white rod could also possibly be reflecting light back down onto the water, and/or at angles from the rod, through subtle movements from the wielder, causing a shimmering light effect. This is why the white rods are easier to see at night, as stated earlier.
With this said, do I think it would matter? I really don't think so... I mean, I don't consider fish to be completely stupid, but how would they know what a fishing rod is? Would they have the intelligence to link the pole to the line to the lure that caught them? I'm pretty skeptical of that personally lol. But... whatever floats his boat I guess! Confidence can be useful. I own 2 white rods and 2 black rods that I use a lot for various fishing, but I have never once considered either one to be more or less "invisible" to a fish looking up.
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