Boyd Duckett Dumps E21 2024

The_Natural reply :

Duckett basically stated that the quality was so poor, he felt he would damage his name if he kept supporting them. He stated the Carrot Sticks the public got are NOT the same rods that won ICAST, and aren't the rods he or other pro-staffers use. E21 was his biggest sponsor, so Kudos to Boyd for having high morals and doing what a lot of other pros would do.

mattm reply :

Wow. Where did this come from? I've really liked mine and haven't had the breakage issues i've been seeing more of on the internet lately. If the case is as you stated and he didn't have any other motive than good for him.

Bassn Blvd reply :

Is he saying the E21's are of less quality then originally advertised? False advertisement or scam? Very interesting and good for him if it's true.

Simp reply :

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Duckett basically stated that the quality was so poor, he felt he would damage his name if he kept supporting them. He stated the Carrot Sticks the public got are NOT the same rods that won ICAST, and aren't the rods he or other pro-staffers use. E21 was his biggest sponsor, so Kudos to Boyd for having high morals and doing what a lot of other pros would do.

Can we get a reference of where this came from please?

Edit- found the article at http://basszone.com/2009quickflips/duckett7.htm

It doesn't seem like BS but that website doesn't shout "breaking news" type of website. To me it seems the rod breakage is bothering him and that he's not sure about the "financial security" his words of the company. That brings up a whole other can of worms for why he might of left them. Possibly a money grab before ICAST. Possibly the company is in trouble like many other companies right now. Who knows but I'm enjoying my 7'8 heavy and this certainly won't stop that!

cart7t reply :

Duckett also said, In business sometimes you have to overlook profits to maintain the integrity of both the product and your reputation. And that's the position I feel I'm in. So I felt like even though it's going to be a financial loss, parting ways is the right thing to do.

There it is in black and yellow.

Obviously, E21 has found a threshold of acceptable returns in exchange for maximized profits from changes in the assembly end of the process or materials used. Those assembly/materials changes to the original carrot sticks Boyd was using are creating an inferior product. I would not want to be sponsoring a product such as a rod or reel that is so significantly different than what's on the shelf the consumer buys that the end results, the on the water performance between what Mr or Mrs. consumer uses is vastly different than mine.

Good on him.

Pantera61 reply :

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Duckett basically stated that the quality was so poor, he felt he would damage his name if he kept supporting them. He stated the Carrot Sticks the public got are NOT the same rods that won ICAST, and aren't the rods he or other pro-staffers use. E21 was his biggest sponsor, so Kudos to Boyd for having high morals and doing what a lot of other pros would do.

Can we get a reference of where this came from please?

Edit- found the article at http://basszone.com/2009quickflips/duckett7.htm

It doesn't seem like BS but that website doesn't shout "breaking news" type of website. To me it seems the rod breakage is bothering him and that he's not sure about the "financial security" his words of the company. That brings up a whole other can of worms for why he might of left them. Possibly a money grab before ICAST. Possibly the company is in trouble like many other companies right now. Who knows but I'm enjoying my 7'8 heavy and this certainly won't stop that!

Or it could simply mean Boyd Duckett is a man of integrity and that's such a rare commodity these days people don't recognize it when then hear it.

firefightn15 reply :

I have had nothing but great preformance from mine. I wonder if the components in the blank break down after a period, either from age or maybe uv rays? Either way I would say that Duckett is being straight up. Sounds like the man has morals and is willing to stick by them.

bass wrangler569 reply :

Wow, I'm really impressed with him. He seems to be a standup guy.

Iowa Matt reply :

The other thing to remember is that he owns a business that sounds pretty decent in size...........so I am sure that the E21 money he is turning down wasn't going to be relied upon to put food on the table. Morals are easier to uphold when you are already financially secure.

That said, I really like my E21 rod (7' med casting) and will keep catching fish on it unitl further notice.

I hope this shocks E21 into returning to a higher quality product and doesn't ruin them...........the rods really do feel different than any other I use (and the E21 is the cheapest among them).

Matt

old bassman reply :

Boyd Duckett is not their only sponsor. Henry Wasczuk of "Fins and Skins" and "Fishing the Flats" also endorses their salt water flats line of E21 rods. What's his take on this? i have not heard anything from Waszczuk. Just some more fuel for the Fire!!!! I have not heard anyone complaining about the saltwater line of rods breaking!!! I do not believe they're are any different than Ducklett's line.

MarauderYak reply :

I've mentioned before that I'd have just a little concern over buying a Carrot Stix rod; but I'm not sure I'd jump right into commending Duckett on this move.

It's no coincidence that he's doing this right before I-Cast. It's more than a little likely that this move was strictly a financial one. If that's the case, I can understand it completely, but I don't see how it qualifies as a "stand-up" move.

I'm certainly not bad-mouthing Duckett, just pointing out his decision is more than likely spurred by financial reasons.

flechero reply :

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The rods are different from the prototypes that won iCast in 2007. The rods are also different than the Carrot Stix rods Duckett uses while fishing on tour.

What... he didn't use rack rods??????

shocking. :

Dock Master reply :

Wow!!!!! I can't believe this.

So far my Carrot Stix has held up nicely, the guides seem to be strong and the whole blank it self seems to be pretty strong also.

flechero reply :

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It's no coincidence that he's doing this right before I-Cast. It's more than a little likely that this move was strictly a financial one. If that's the case, I can understand it completely, but I don't see how it qualifies as a "stand-up" move.
I'm certainly not bad-mouthing Duckett, just pointing out his decision is more than likely spurred by financial reasons.

Interesting post...

It appears to me that you've made several assumptions... It just might be a "stand up move" but you've jumped to these conclusions before any evidence is out. It could simply be that his contract renewal date coincides with ICAST. I'm sure by the very nature of this business- many contracts originate about this time each year.

bass wrangler569 reply :

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Boyd Duckett is not their only sponsor. Henry Wasczuk of "Fins and Skins" and "Fishing the Flats" also endorses their salt water flats line of E21 rods. What's his take on this? i have not heard anything from Waszczuk. Just some more fuel for the Fire!!!! I have not heard anyone complaining about the saltwater line of rods breaking!!! I do not believe they're are any different than Ducklett's line.

No disrespect to "Wasczuk" but I highly doubt that he is drawing anywhere near the publicity for E21 that Duckett was. :-X

Dan: reply :

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I've mentioned before that I'd have just a little concern over buying a Carrot Stix rod; but I'm not sure I'd jump right into commending Duckett on this move.
It's no coincidence that he's doing this right before I-Cast. It's more than a little likely that this move was strictly a financial one. If that's the case, I can understand it completely, but I don't see how it qualifies as a "stand-up" move.

I'm certainly not bad-mouthing Duckett, just pointing out his decision is more than likely spurred by financial reasons.

watch out, we don't want another Ike thread...

rubba bubba reply :

It's interesting that he didn't bow out of the deal quietly as other possible sponsors will be concerned that he may trash their gear too for whatever reason. He's an exec, so he knows this, which makes it that much more intriguing to me.

Tin reply :

This is really depressing to hear. > Good for him though..

Still love and have not had a problem with mine though. Maybe next he will dump Lazer Lure. ;D

grimlin reply :

Just to show how much farther he will go. My E21 Edge promo rod came from him after it was found out to be something wrong with it.He gave me a new one out of his personal stock pile.Since these rods are not for sale by public,meaning there isn't a warranty on these rods.

I really,really admire Boyd Duckett.

It's my favorite rod to this date right now.

cart7t reply :

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It's interesting that he didn't bow out of the deal quietly as other possible sponsors will be concerned that he may trash their gear too for whatever reason. He's an exec, so he knows this, which makes it that much more intriguing to me.

exactly. I can't remember the last time any sports figure walked away from an endorsement deal and made comments of the tone Boyd did here. Not exactly the kind of thing any future sponsor would want to hear and the kind of thing that could bring legal repercussions from E21. He could've walked away quietly, he chose to let folks know his reasons.

I suspect his words were chosen wisely.

MarauderYak reply :

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It's no coincidence that he's doing this right before I-Cast. It's more than a little likely that this move was strictly a financial one. If that's the case, I can understand it completely, but I don't see how it qualifies as a "stand-up" move.
I'm certainly not bad-mouthing Duckett, just pointing out his decision is more than likely spurred by financial reasons.

Interesting post...

It appears to me that you've made several assumptions... It just might be a "stand up move" but you've jumped to these conclusions before any evidence is out. It could simply be that his contract renewal date coincides with ICAST. I'm sure by the very nature of this business- many contracts originate about this time each year.

I need evidence to support the thought this was a financial decision? He mentions the financial aspect several times in that article, and I do happen to know that E-21 is having payment issues. The breakage issue was actually worse in early production, and has improved. The financial issues have only recently arose.

I don't even think him making a financially based decision is a bad thing. I'm just saying I don't find it a reason to lay accolades on him. It's just a "normal" business decision. In fact, I would say his decision was smart. I just don't see it as making him either good OR bad. Anyone who feels otherwise is certainly free to.

jimmieO reply :

Boyd Duckett gained lots of respect points from me for this move!!!! Its very refreshing to see someone only want to endorse something that they truly believe in!

Muddy reply :

It's all about hype and dollars. The pros depend on the tackle and boating industries and these industries use the pros to sell stuff to the fishing/boating world. It is that way by design, the pro circuit is more important as a marketing platform than as a sport. You can't judge a business man by what he does, the nature of business is to hide the money fellas, it happens with every professional sport, why would fishing be any different.

The major movers and shakers in this sport are about money, selling products, trips, boats, tackle and guides, even forums such as these , bottom line is profit.

Pros are not saints or sinners, they are business men, you only know their images and those images are made to sell

Lucky Craft Man reply :

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It's interesting that he didn't bow out of the deal quietly as other possible sponsors will be concerned that he may trash their gear too for whatever reason. He's an exec, so he knows this, which makes it that much more intriguing to me.

exactly. I can't remember the last time any sports figure walked away from an endorsement deal and made comments of the tone Boyd did here. Not exactly the kind of thing any future sponsor would want to hear and the kind of thing that could bring legal repercussions from E21. He could've walked away quietly, he chose to let folks know his reasons.

I suspect his words were chosen wisely.

I actually think the opposite would be true. Imagine if Boyd started using Lamiglas rods. People now think that Boyd is more about integrity, principle and quality, therefore people might think that Lamiglas must be good a good if Boyd is using it. I think this could work in Boyd's favor as well as in the favor of any potential sponsor (I am hoping G Loomis picks him up)

roadwarrior reply :

I don't know: Nano-vegetable molecules; no-name mystery components;

quality control issues from the get-go; semi-secret blank replacement;

widespread reports of breakage...the list goes on and on. Even the Carrot

fans admit that the originals sucked or on a positive spin, the second

generation were much better than the first, until another issue popped

up.

With all the issues surrounding these rods, the novelty is wearing thin.

More importantly, if the company goes under, so does the warranty. I'm

sure we will have a ton of information as this story continues to develop.

8-)

Dan: reply :

I thought they were selling like hotcakes? How can they possibly be going under?

Lucky Craft Man reply :

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I thought they were selling like hotcakes? How can they possibly be going under?

Selling alot of products can't help you when you are replacing alot of already sold ones (though, it can help slow down the bleeding).

Dan: reply :

are they really having that many replacement issues?

MarauderYak reply :

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I thought they were selling like hotcakes? How can they possibly be going under?

Their high-end golf club shafts have NOT been selling like hotcakes. Doesn't mean they're going under, but they're hurting. Having your top pro leave & say negative things about the company & the product right before I-Cast WILL hurt them further.

Bassaholic84 reply :

I just bought one last week and that alone is why i am taking it back

cart7t reply :

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It's interesting that he didn't bow out of the deal quietly as other possible sponsors will be concerned that he may trash their gear too for whatever reason. He's an exec, so he knows this, which makes it that much more intriguing to me.

exactly. I can't remember the last time any sports figure walked away from an endorsement deal and made comments of the tone Boyd did here. Not exactly the kind of thing any future sponsor would want to hear and the kind of thing that could bring legal repercussions from E21. He could've walked away quietly, he chose to let folks know his reasons.

I suspect his words were chosen wisely.

I actually think the opposite would be true. Imagine if Boyd started using Lamiglas rods. People now think that Boyd is more about integrity, principle and quality, therefore people might think that Lamiglas must be good a good if Boyd is using it. I think this could work in Boyd's favor as well as in the favor of any potential sponsor (I am hoping G Loomis picks him up)

Generally, if a pro(regardless of sport) walks from a product, even if he doesn't like it anymore, it's not standard practice to begin spilling the dirt so to speak, like he did here. That often gets said pro into trouble signing with the next sponsor.

I have no problem with it. His move was sudden and it's obvious there are problems at E21. I'm sure he's wanting to distance himself.

South FLA reply :

Boyd Duckett is IMO a stand up guide and I value his opinion. Did Skeet Reese bad mouth Lamiglass when he left regarding quality issues. When money is on the line Boyd doesn't want his rod to be a Carrot! I feel sorry for those members who bought one based on they hype, how confident must they be with the lifetime warranty? I am glad the Bait Monkey did not convince me to try a carrot though

bilgerat reply :

As with cars, electronics and most other goods : Stay away from the first generation of any new technology. Be patient. Price comes down, quality goes up. Buying anything solely because a "pro" uses it is stupid.

KYntucky Warmouth reply :

I have two, one ltx and one gold. I honestly like the rods, the gold more so than the ltx, and have not had any problems with them and the gold gets fished alot, i use it or cranks, the ltx is a worm rod and I have 4 so it gets rotated. The sensitivity of the ltx leaves something to be desired but is an all around good rod.

DINK WHISPERER reply :

It was about time he moved away from those junk rods!

Sam reply :

We do not know the entire story. Only Boyd's position.

There could have been contract negotiations that went sour or a personality clash or Boyd has some insider information from inside sources that made him make the move.

Remember when Ranger dumped Ike for going nuts at the Classic? I am sure there was more to that story, like Ranger finding an excuse to let Ike go based on a financial concern that Ranger did not want to publicize, rather than an ethical concern that was used as an excuse.

And Bass Cat moved fast to sign Ike after the split.

All I can say is what my old LSU economics prof told us...."follow the money."

bass wrangler569 reply :

I find it sad that so many of you cannot accept that maybe for once somebody is actually making a decision for ethical, and not financial reasons. I'm not a naive person and I realize that money is the influence behind of a lot of decisions but how about we stop making assumptions until we have evidence to base those assumptions on.

I'm not a Duckett fan in the least, and my decision to buy my carrot stix had nothing to do with his endorsement, but I think its depressing that our society can no longer accept that somebody might actually be a decent person.

oh, and Cart... I like your new avatar ;D

Sam reply :

Poor financials? Check out this story.

Element 21 is On Target to Double Its Revenues in the 2008-2009 Fiscal Year

Press Release

Source: Element 21 Golf Company

On Monday July 13, 2009, 4:00 pm EDT

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TORONTO, July 13, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Element 21 Golf Company (OTCBB:ETGF - News; Frankfurt:BJQ - News), the leading manufacturer of advanced Scandium Alloy golf and biofiber fishing equipment, announced today that preliminary revenue figures as of June 30, 2009 year-end indicate that Element 21 is on target to double its revenue as compared to June 30, 2008.

Element 21's revenue has been growing at an annualized growth rate of 343% and 705% for fiscal year 2006 and 2007, respectively. This trend is continuing based on the preliminary revenue figures for the fiscal year 2008. The three year average growth rate for the recent past is 204%. (www.e21sports.com)

Element 21 has experienced significant growth, since the introduction of its Carrot Stix line of fishing rods. The rods are being sold in the major specialty retailers such as Bass Pro, Cabela's, Academy and West Marine.

Pantera61 reply :

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Poor financials? Check out this story.
Element 21 is On Target to Double Its Revenues in the 2008-2009 Fiscal Year

Press Release

Source: Element 21 Golf Company

On Monday July 13, 2009, 4:00 pm EDT

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TORONTO, July 13, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Element 21 Golf Company (OTCBB:ETGF - News; Frankfurt:BJQ - News), the leading manufacturer of advanced Scandium Alloy golf and biofiber fishing equipment, announced today that preliminary revenue figures as of June 30, 2009 year-end indicate that Element 21 is on target to double its revenue as compared to June 30, 2008.

Element 21's revenue has been growing at an annualized growth rate of 343% and 705% for fiscal year 2006 and 2007, respectively. This trend is continuing based on the preliminary revenue figures for the fiscal year 2008. The three year average growth rate for the recent past is 204%. (www.e21sports.com)

Element 21 has experienced significant growth, since the introduction of its Carrot Stix line of fishing rods. The rods are being sold in the major specialty retailers such as Bass Pro, Cabela's, Academy and West Marine.

I heard Bernie Madoff had good ###s too.

cart7t reply :

OMC didn't look too bad towards the end either.

Too many overlapping boat companies and exploding FICHTS did them in.

Koop reply :

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Poor financials? Check out this story.
Element 21 is On Target to Double Its Revenues in he 2008-2009 Fiscal Year

Press Release

Source: Element 21 Golf Company

On Monday July 13, 2009, 4:00 pm EDT

Buzz up! 0 Print

TORONTO, July 13, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Element 21 Golf Company (OTCBB:ETGF - News; Frankfurt:BJQ - News), the leading manufacturer of advanced Scandium Alloy golf and biofiber fishing equipment, announced today that preliminary revenue figures as of June 30, 2009 year-end indicate that Element 21 is on target to double its revenue as compared to June 30, 2008.

Element 21's revenue has been growing at an annualized growth rate of 343% and 705% for fiscal year 2006 and 2007, respectively. This trend is continuing based on the preliminary revenue figures for the fiscal year 2008. The three year average growth rate for the recent past is 204%. (www.e21sports.com)

Element 21 has experienced significant growth, since the introduction of its Carrot Stix line of fishing rods. The rods are being sold in the major specialty retailers such as Bass Pro, Cabela's, Academy and West Marine.

I heard Bernie Madoff had good ###s too.

Jeff H reply :

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A novelty rod at a popular pricing point is all I see. :

I see a good bit of "fugly" there too.

=Matt 5.0= reply :

I'll keep swinging those four and five pounders in the boat with my gimmick rods.

Muddy reply :

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Poor financials? Check out this story.
Element 21 is On Target to Double Its Revenues in the 2008-2009 Fiscal Year

Press Release

Source: Element 21 Golf Company

On Monday July 13, 2009, 4:00 pm EDT

Buzz up! 0 Print

TORONTO, July 13, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Element 21 Golf Company (OTCBB:ETGF - News; Frankfurt:BJQ - News), the leading manufacturer of advanced Scandium Alloy golf and biofiber fishing equipment, announced today that preliminary revenue figures as of June 30, 2009 year-end indicate that Element 21 is on target to double its revenue as compared to June 30, 2008.

Element 21's revenue has been growing at an annualized growth rate of 343% and 705% for fiscal year 2006 and 2007, respectively. This trend is continuing based on the preliminary revenue figures for the fiscal year 2008. The three year average growth rate for the recent past is 204%. (www.e21sports.com)

Element 21 has experienced significant growth, since the introduction of its Carrot Stix line of fishing rods. The rods are being sold in the major specialty retailers such as Bass Pro, Cabela's, Academy and West Marine.

Lets see Enron,Lehman Brothers,Merrill Lynch,GM all were in good shape according to one article or shyster accountant also. Also gotta give props to Uncle Bernie in his new blue suit

The Yankee Fist reply :

Hmmmm....let me say this from a complete newbie's point of view. There is no offense meant.

There are cheap rods and they all feel the same within their price point.

There are slightly more expensive rods and they all feel the same within their respective price point.

There are step up rods slightly more expensive and they all feel the same within their respective price point.

As we get to the middle upper end they still all feel the same within their marketing ploy.

I must have checked out hundreds of rods this year and most felt the same..some a little different but basically like they came out of the same factory with the same thick finish and different hardware.

When I finally got a hold of the top end...IMX, other brand equivalents and above I started to realize what the hoopla is all about. It's the quality, the feel, craftsmanship and then when you fish them you really know.

I guess my point is, it doesn't really matter what make, if it's in your budget and works well then it's the perfect rod for you, hell it was for me for many many years.

Only, and only when you get to the cream of the crop do you really "feel" a difference amongst the brands and the separation from the others is quite apparent....even to a newbie. No sense fighting over what basically all comes out of the same factories in those price points.

firefightn15 reply :

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As with cars, electronics and most other goods : Stay away from the first generation of any new technology. Be patient. Price comes down, quality goes up. Buying anything solely because a "pro" uses it is stupid.

X2 I think that their 1st generaton rods may have had bugs to work out. Same thing in the firearms industry, an example would be Ruger when they intro'd the P85 back in the 80's a few of their subsequent 1st run Models had issues that took Ruger 2 or 3 years to work through. S&W also had the same type of issues when they dove deeper into the semi-auto side arms.

My guess is that E21 had their issues worked out and to that point, decided to get cheap. Now if this is the case, why wouldn't someone who tagged their name to the product want to walk away? And why wouldn't he give his reasons? He walks, his name would still be associated with the product.

Geez, heaven help us if anyone comes out with another rod that isn't black or brown. And for the record, I still haven't had anyone tell me how the "cheap" guides have failed them. If E21 ever comes out with a multi-tool, I know who I am buying one for! Ahem

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And for the record, I still haven't had anyone tell me how the "cheap" guides have failed them.

Exactly. I will bet anyone all of my money that my Carrot Stix will never lose or crack a ceramic insert.

No ceramic isn't necessarily bad.

DINK WHISPERER reply :

Slap some braid on it and fish it in some nasty cover and than see what happens........................

Big Bait Fishing reply :

gimmick rods ???? , PLEASE , i catch 3-7 lb. fish on my carrot stix all the time . my carrot stix is super light and has a ton of backbone . people need to stop , do you see me complaining about g.loomis rods ( i actually would never buy one cause they are heavy and have funky grips ) but i don't go bashing . do you really expect me or other people to stop liking and fishing our carrot stix cause of this or things that other people say , guess again ........... 8-)

rubba bubba reply :

And so with this and the snookums thread Bassresource has come full circle. 2 months ago you couldn't read anything but "I love Carrot Stix" threads. The hype machine was at its finest.

Not saying the rod is good or bad as I've never seen or used one. Just the herd mentality that seems to crop up here a lot. Now the herd is on the downside of the Carrot stix love....

bass wrangler569 reply :

Exactly, I've landed several 4.5lb smallmouth and this guy on my carrot stix. I'll keep catching fish on mine.

The Yankee Fist reply :

Given budget was no limit would you choose the Carrot Stix over all other? If so, you have the VERY BEST rod you will ever need or want and that's what really matters.

Big Bait Fishing reply :

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Slap some braid on it and fish it in some nasty cover and than see what happens........................

i do that every time i fish , have you tried it ??? mine works perfectly 8-)

5bass reply :

Unless I read the article wrong, the problems are showing up more now as opposed to the early rods. The early Carrots were the better rods.

Tin sent me two of his Carrots to try out shortly after they were released and although I never ended up buying any, I thought about it real hard. I caught several bass and even some 10-12# stripers with the ones he sent and they performed very well. Ultimately, I just couldnt get past the ugliness.

DINK WHISPERER reply :

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Slap some braid on it and fish it in some nasty cover and than see what happens........................

i do that every time i fish , have you tried it ??? mine works perfectly 8-)

Nope, mine never made it past mono than it broke!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tin reply :

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Slap some braid on it and fish it in some nasty cover and than see what happens........................

i do that every time i fish , have you tried it ??? mine works perfectly 8-)

Nope, mine never made it past mono than it broke!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yea usually, people who don't know how to flip a fish into the boat or enjoy setting hooks into immovable objects have problems with rods.

And I vote Muddy for ownage of the year....

Dan: reply :

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Unless I read the article wrong, the problems are showing up more now as opposed to the early rods. The early Carrots were the better rods.
Tin sent me two of his Carrots to try out shortly after they were released and although I never ended up buying any, I thought about it real hard. I caught several bass and even some 10-12# stripers with the ones he sent and they performed very well. Ultimately, I just couldnt get past the ugliness.

I agree. I think I can get past the orange, but the red bands are unforgivable.

Tin reply :

When I look at them and feel them I want vomit. I just wish they made some ML actions and such for my finesse stuff and were not orange. And those guides suck. So does the reel seat. And knowing how many people have busted them swinging 10" fish in the boat makes me not want them. Then when I see that $200, I mean $150 price tag, I have to buy them.

ArcticCat500 reply :

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Slap some braid on it and fish it in some nasty cover and than see what happens........................

I've seen it happen, I fish with a fellow member in here, whom pitches a jig on 65lb PP braid into spots some guys wouldnt think of in FEAR of getting hung up, or perhaps running the risk of damaging thier pretty & expensive rods. And yes, its all done on an E21.

roadwarrior reply :

Well now, the other Carrot Stix thread went 4 pages and this one 5.

Seems like a total of nine might be enough for awhile.

Good night Irene.

-Kent a.k.a. roadwarrior

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