I can see I am going to need to be more familiar with this technique.
What should I look for in a chatterbait rod, in terms of length, action, taper, line type, etc. You guys that fish chatterbaits alot...is there a set-up that you use that doubles up as your chatterbait set-up (i.e. spinnerbaits/squarebills/etc..)
Look forward to your responses.
Funny thing about me I like a 7 MH casting when coming to my spinnerbaits and buzzbaits but I use a 7' M-F spinning for my chatterbaits.
Ive used them both on rods that i normally use for spinner baits and ive used them on my jig rod. Either way a 7MH fast should do the trick. I wouldnt go buy a rod just for chatterbaits.
I also prefer a MH for SB's but I prefer to throw chatterbaits on a H stick with braid.
Just make sure to take into account how heavy is the lure you plan on using the most, and how thick is the cover that you will be chucking it to... mh is normally in the middle
If you look at the rods that Iaconelli and one of the big FLW guys (I think it's Dudley) are using there's a ton of bend. Before I saw them using those rods, I tended to lean in that direction to give fish more time to take it in. I would sometimes recommend the 7'6" crankbait rod, but most of time I would recommend a composite to still get enough backbone to punch-pull those awful (z-man) hooks into the mouth. Either way I would say always 7'6" or bigger. You should also check out major league fishing's current season for some good tips. Ike pulls out a great technique which he calls "feathering" the bait and mentions why he prefers fluorocarbon over mono for those type baits. Bladed jig trailers is another really interesting topic to get into. I'm still searching for a clear number one. Alot of the FLW guys seem to prefer the swimming senko which is a solid choice. Dudley says he has done really well on the berkley rocket craw.
Same thing I throw jigs or spinnerbaits on a 7ft mh or 73 mh
Same as spinners and swim jigs, 7'MH/F
I just picked up the new M1 Phenix MH/F rod for spinners and chatterbait's.
Haven't used it yet maybe next week
Mike
On 1/19/2013 at 3:36 AM, froggerbass said:If you look at the rods that Iaconelli and one of the big FLW guys (I think it's Dudley) are using there's a ton of bend. Before I saw them using those rods, I tended to lean in that direction to give fish more time to take it in. I would sometimes recommend the 7'6" crankbait rod, but most of time I would recommend a composite to still get enough backbone to punch-pull those awful (z-man) hooks into the mouth. Either way I would say always 7'6" or bigger. You should also check out major league fishing's current season for some good tips. Ike pulls out a great technique which he calls "feathering" the bait and mentions why he prefers fluorocarbon over mono for those type baits. Bladed jig trailers is another really interesting topic to get into. I'm still searching for a clear number one. Alot of the FLW guys seem to prefer the swimming senko which is a solid choice. Dudley says he has done really well on the berkley rocket craw.
Froggerbass,
Great response! The reason for my post was for exactly the same reason you mentioned. The BASS/FLW pros I have seen using chatterbaits are using much more parabolic rods than I would have guessed. Seems like they are using crankbait rods in many cases.
I am going to search for the Ike episode online. (Ike, if you're still cruising these forums...feel free to jump in here! )
I have no intention of buying a dedicated chatterbait rod...just wondering which of my existing rods would be best suited for chatterbait use. I have a 7'10" cranking stick (MH/Mod action) with 14lb mono and a 7'0" spinnerbait rod (M/XF action) with 20lb braid. I'm guessing that one of those two will probably work for me.
Spinnerbait rod on #16 FC. Most are 3/8 but i will throw a 1/2 from time to time. The hooks on chatterbaits are stout and to drive them home I want some power.
I fish them on the same rod I fish spinnerbaits on, 6' 6" MH/F.
I fish mine on my spinnerbait rod which is a 6'8" MH fast action rod. I love throwing them on that set up however a friend of mine uses a Dobyns Champion 685 CB which I know he likes a lot when using chatterbaits.
I use a 7'6" crankin duckett ghost, the tip feels so moderate, and I seem to miss more fish off of chatterbaits on my 6'9" medium heavy rod than on my 7'6" duckett. Paired it with a Lew's tour mg 6.4.1. I haven't lost a single fish on my Duckett with chatterbaits. It's my chatterbait rod because chatterbaits are so effective for me where I fish. I use flourocarbon or mono because braid seems to rip the hooks out. But a you still need a line with a little less stretch than mono so Id go with flouro
If I'm throwing a 1/2 oz one with a swimbait trailer I'll use a 7'1" Heavy
thought id bring this topic back to life because i love chatterbaits
On 1/19/2013 at 2:58 AM, piscicidal said:I can see I am going to need to be more familiar with this technique.
What should I look for in a chatterbait rod, in terms of length, action, taper, line type, etc. You guys that fish chatterbaits alot...is there a set-up that you use that doubles up as your chatterbait set-up (i.e. spinnerbaits/squarebills/etc..)
Look forward to your responses.
I throw mine on a 7'3" Heavy custom glass rod. Length can be whatever you want it to be, but I would never throw them on anything other than glass after using this rod. It has the bend of a crankbait rod, but it has more backbone because of it's heavy power. This also doubles as my hollow bodied swimbait stick. I throw 17 lb. Seaguar Invizx on a Shimano Chronarch 200E6 with a 94 mm Hawgtech handle
HAHAHA I didn't notice this post was from January of 2013 till after I posted. Thanks guys for making me feel stupid...
I just started throwing them this fall and have been using my 6'8" MHF rod with braid and have no complaints.
Caught this guy on one yesterday actually
A good cheap chatterbait rod is the Berkley Lightning Rod Shock. I use the 6'6" mh for close quarters work, and the 7'mh for everything else.
I use my flipping setup (7'6" Heavy Baitcaster W/ a 7.1:1 Reel and 50# braid) because I usually fish them in pretty thick cover. Braid will help the chatterbaits action IMO.
On 1/19/2013 at 5:55 AM, piscicidal said:Froggerbass,
Great response! The reason for my post was for exactly the same reason you mentioned. The BASS/FLW pros I have seen using chatterbaits are using much more parabolic rods than I would have guessed. Seems like they are using crankbait rods in many cases.
I am going to search for the Ike episode online. (Ike, if you're still cruising these forums...feel free to jump in here! )
I have no intention of buying a dedicated chatterbait rod...just wondering which of my existing rods would be best suited for chatterbait use. I have a 7'10" cranking stick (MH/Mod action) with 14lb mono and a 7'0" spinnerbait rod (M/XF action) with 20lb braid. I'm guessing that one of those two will probably work for me.
If you look at guys who use flipping a lot they also use those parabolic bend rods similar to the ones used for chatterbaits. There are plenty of specialized rods with this action.
by far the best chatterbait rod on the markett has to be the g loomis gl2 med hvy worm and jig i used to use a duckett cranking rod witch is still very awsome but not realy for chatter baits but i didnt know any differnt at the time but when i got my gl2 it was softer the i expected but between medhvy and med it perfect for chatterbaits and i have it paired with a shimano chronarch ci4=+
I enjoy fishing chatterbaits on my 7'1" Medium Heavy Duckett White Ice. While this rod is rated as a fast action it really is not, it is more of a Mod-fast action and has the perfect tip for chatterbaits.
I'm thinking of going with a Tatula MH-Regular (modfast) for moving single hook applications like chatterbaits, swim jigs, spinnerbaits and hollow bodied swimbaits. Thoughts?
Two Years Old and still going strong . . . .
A-Jay
If you want a good set up listen to brett hite. He masters the chatter bait using fluorocarbon. He also uses i think like a 7'3'' or 7'6'' heavy action, maybe bigger, fiberglass rod. Fluoro gives a good sink it has some stretch and the glass rod really gives you time to load up on the open hook. He claims to land about 95% of his fish. He has won some real money using this outfit too.
Resurrected again.
I use a Phenix XG3 fiberglass rod, paired with a Revo STX Gen 2 spooled with 20lb Sniper fluoro. Can cast chatterbaits a mile, feels like a crankbait on the retrieve.
I am interested in the Dobyn's 736 Glass that is supposed to be made for bladed jigs.
I heard the mh/r tatula glass rods were awesome for that. Or if you don't like composite rods, the tatula 721mhrb or 711mhrb would be a solid choice. The 711 is the one I use, but I use it with braid for jigs, worms, and spinnerbaits, too.
Spinnerbait, buzzbait, chatterbait should work equally well on the same rod. I like the Dobyns 734 for these.
Dobyns 704 is what I have on the way for just this. Unless you tend to throw light spinners, you can use the same rod for chatterbaits. For most spinners I'd recommend a medium (Dobyns 3 power) and since chatterbaits have much more vibrations, I would recommend a medium-heavy (4 power).
7' MH/F Carbonlite is what works for me.
6'10"-7' MH H20 Ethos works great and rings it at $40!!
On 9/15/2015 at 10:00 PM, gardnerjigman said:6'10"-7' MH H20 Ethos works great and rings it at $40!!
I plan on getting one next time they're on sale to use specifically as my bladed jig rod.
On 9/14/2015 at 7:55 AM, Jrob78 said:I am interested in the Dobyn's 736 Glass that is supposed to be made for bladed jigs.
It'll be a spin off a 765 CB Glass that LOTS of people prefer for chatters
On 9/16/2015 at 11:56 AM, benthinkin said:It'll be a spin off a 765 CB Glass that LOTS of people prefer for chatters
Well, it will be 3" shorter and 1 power heavier. It should be great for more accurate casting and have the power to fish around grass and get good hook sets with a big, single hook.
QUANTUM TOUR KVD SIGNATURE SERIES TKVD746MA 7'4" MEDIUM HEAVY CRANKING ROD in combination with 30 lb braided line
And this one can be had for less that $80
I have two.
A-Jay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231183054483?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
On 9/15/2015 at 3:35 AM, BassThumb said:Spinnerbait, buzzbait, chatterbait should work equally well on the same rod. I like the Dobyns 734 for these.
I would agree with that, and for me that is a 7' MH/F with 50 pound braid.
On 9/16/2015 at 12:03 PM, Jrob78 said:Well, it will be 3" shorter and 1 power heavier. It should be great for more accurate casting and have the power to fish around grass and get good hook sets with a big, single hook.
agreed i think it will be an improvement
I like a MH moderate for all single hook applications (spinner, chatter, swim. I use a 6' 6'' but anything that length or longer works as well. The MH gives enough power to drives the hook home and the moderate action gives enough play for a moving bait.
Whereas for medium or small sized cranks (not deep) I like just a M moderate (7' or longer) for the same reasons above but with a little less power so I don't rip treble hooks too hard.
I use a fenwick med heavy moderate and I love it. I've had my best days fishing this year using this with a curado and 30lb braid. I've tried a regular med heavy but I really think the moderate action helps hook and land fish. And the only chatterbaits I use are from bluebasser do yourself a favor and pm him. I caught one this morning on one and it was such a cool bite soon as the bait landed it got smashed.
It's funny after reading these recent posts how many peole advocate the fiberglass rods or moderate action. I had been sayin I like them for all my moving baits that I can use them on for a long time now. It was crazy talk but now it seems like there are many more converts. Peole have seen the light I guess.
On 9/21/2015 at 10:45 AM, hatrix said:It's funny after reading these recent posts how many peole advocate the fiberglass rods or moderate action. I had been sayin I like them for all my moving baits that I can use them on for a long time now. It was crazy talk but now it seems like there are many more converts. Peole have seen the light I guess.
Lol same here Hatrix I was saying the same thing as you
It's a lot of personal preference and using what works for you like everything else. I tried a glass rod and it just did not work for me. I went back to my MH/F and doing just fine. Maybe I'll try one of these glass rods built specfically for bladed jigs though and change my mind.
I like my 7-1 MF ***, just enough backbone and a softer tip. It can be very accurate or throw it for distance. In heavier cover though I like MHF. 12 lb FC on the M and 14 FC on the MH
What is a good bait cast rod, length, action, taper for throwing chatter baits and spinnerbaits, 1/4 oz to 1/2oz?
7' Medium Heavy/ Fast Action
Actually in that comment I was going to say there was only one other guy I knew of who was saying the same thing. But I couldn't remeber their name. It was you though who was also praising the slower action rodsOn 9/21/2015 at 8:30 PM, JGBassinAL said:Lol same here Hatrix I was saying the same thing as you
I also agree it is your personal preference. If something is workin for you and you like it then go with it. There is no right or wrong way to fish. Keep trying stuff until you find what you like I supppse. I just got to a point where I felt I was missing fish.
I would get a lot of really hard and quick hits where they almost take the rod or I would have fish come off when i really didn't think it shouldnt of. I just came to the conclusion I could eithet use a line like a rubberband or change my rod. I wasn't about to change my line so I started using a rod that me or most people I guess would of never considered for all kinds of things.
I don't mean to be rude...but there is a 4 page thread on chatterbait rods at the very top of this forum
I tried one extra fast jig rod and didn't like it at all. It didn't feel right casting or pitching, didn't give me much in the way of distance or accuracy, sensitivity wasn't any better, if I actually managed a solid hook set, I couldn't play the fish correctly and if they jumped, they'd managed to throw the hook more often than not. So mod-fast for me all day, every day. Even my flip rod is on the fast side of mod fast. And my cranking rod has a mod-fast action, but the tip is like butta, baby.
On 9/22/2015 at 6:18 AM, hatrix said:Actually in that comment I was going to say there was only one other guy I knew of who was saying the same thing. But I couldn't remeber their name. It was you though who was also praising the slower action rods
I also agree it is your personal preference. If something is workin for you and you like it then go with it. There is no right or wrong way to fish. Keep trying stuff until you find what you like I supppse. I just got to a point where I felt I was missing fish.
I would get a lot of really hard and quick hits where they almost take the rod or I would have fish come off when i really didn't think it shouldnt of. I just came to the conclusion I could eithet use a line like a rubberband or change my rod. I wasn't about to change my line so I started using a rod that me or most people I guess would of never considered for all kinds of things.
Another HUGE advantage for a glass rod that people who haven't used one don't usually realize is that the when the hook is set with the glass rod, it doesn't rip a huge hole in the mouth of the fish. With stiffer rods it will rip a big hole and the hook can pop out that way, with a glass rod you do not have to worry about that. That's why I throw my paddle tail swimbaits on a glass rod as well.
On 9/22/2015 at 6:29 AM, Montanaro said:I don't mean to be rude...but there is a 4 page thread on chatterbait rods at the very top of this forum
I just saw that! Wish I had seen it sooner. Thanks!
On 9/21/2015 at 8:36 PM, Bluebasser86 said:It's a lot of personal preference and using what works for you like everything else. I tried a glass rod and it just did not work for me. I went back to my MH/F and doing just fine. Maybe I'll try one of these glass rods built specfically for bladed jigs though and change my mind.
I have one of those glass rods built specifically for bladed jigs and it is exceptional I can get you one built for a great price as well. If you are interested shoot me a PM.
On 9/22/2015 at 6:38 AM, JGBassinAL said:Another HUGE advantage for a glass rod that people who haven't used one don't usually realize is that the when the hook is set with the glass rod, it doesn't rip a huge hole in the mouth of the fish. With stiffer rods it will rip a big hole and the hook can pop out that way, with a glass rod you do not have to worry about that. That's why I throw my paddle tail swimbaits on a glass rod as well.
Ya if you switch you do notice a lot lot less of the holes from a hook set in their mouth. I also kinda feel sometimes I have better sensitivity on baits. Anything that makes some kind of vibration or wobble and that transfers all the way to the tip. You can just watch that tip go back and forth way more then it would on graphite and to me it almost seems like it amplifies the feel of the bait.
Hmm...
Glass or more generally, Moderate or Slow Action for treble hooks.
Fast Action for single hooks. You will NEVER rip a hook out of a
bass on the hook-set unless it is next to your foot.
6'10 mh fast tatula for spinnerbaits chatterbaits and square bills. Hasn't failed me yet
On 9/22/2015 at 8:10 AM, roadwarrior said:Hmm...
Glass or more generally, Moderate or Slow Action for treble hooks.
Fast Action for single hooks. You will NEVER rip a hook out of a
bass on the hook-set unless it is next to your foot.
No one ever said you would rip a hook out on the hook set with a fast action rod. A stiffer rod will cause a bigger hole when the hook is set which makes it easier for the hook to pop out during the fight.