How Far Up The Line (Shimano Guys Look And Speak) 2024
WiregrassRiverRat reply :
I have been a lews guy since the beginning. I just love that I can buy a 89 dollar reel and be happy .. or can spend 199 (full price) and have an awesome one... but now I am looking at spinning gear.. and I feel that lews falls short.. so I am looking at the symetre and saros stradic fj.. but then I started looking at shimano baitcasting line.. and seeing the show off your gear page with all the core reels and high end diawa.. and then for even the strongest of shimano supporters so much lack of support for the newer curado and citica and how the caenan at the price of the speed spool is barely ever mentioned.. so some of my questions.(shimano daiwa etc..)
How far up in the Shimano line in baitcasters do you feel you have to go to get a quality reel?
Why do you stick with a company that continues to cheapen their product and then charge more?
I like being brand specific and so going with the shimano spinning reel makes me consider at least looking at shimano baitcaster .. but then again seeing how most have to spend 199 full price for the lowest of the quality reels of a company.. I just dont see where it is worth it..
Hope this doesnt offend anyone.. just trying to consider my options and always had some questions.
bootytrain reply :
Who cheapened their product and charged more? Instead of listening to haters who talk bad about a product without even using said product(and that's probably 99% of people on the internet who complained about the Curado G) you should try one decide for yourself. As far as where to start? I'd probably go for the best reel you can afford.
roadwarrior reply :
The new Curado will be introduced next month. Rumor has it that both
the E and G will go for +/- $100 on closeout.
Crankinstein reply :
The lowest in shimano I have is the citica 201e and the highest is a core 101mg. I personally feel like they have quality in all of the reels and that higher end just offer extras like light weight, casting distance, and smoothness as well as just more refinement of the same tech found in lower line ups. I still use my citica quite a bit and it has never let me down. I agree with the above post as far your question goes, spend as much as you want and the quality will always be worth more whether its a $129.99 citica fishing like a $150 dollar reel or a 349.99 core fishing like a $500 reel. Just my opinion though
Darren. reply :
I think the issue came mostly with the change of the Curado and Chronarch, the latter being more like the previous Curado but with a white paint job...etc.
The other issue with the spinning reels was the change of certain parts from alloy to plastic. And yes, a lot of Shimano fans were upset over the perceived cheapening of the reels. If you read another form (TT), there's a Shimano rep that explains some of the changes made.
A friend of mine, and huge Shimano fan, BPS fishing manager, really likes the new Stradic FJ, said his Shimano rep assured that if the new plastic piece (can't remember what that piece was off hand) ever fails, Shimano would fix it free, they're that confident in the construction and parts used.
Just my take on the issue. I'm a Shimano fan, but also a Daiwa fan now. I don't have the money to throw around to every brand and manufacturer out there to be able to compare and contrast quality differences, etc. So pretty much found two I really like and will probably stick with (so long as the bait monkey stays in its cage where my wife put it).
Gaerith reply :
For spinning I wouldn't buy anything below Symetre, because I want x-ship. BC's I tend to not buy below the $100 price point regardless of brand, because I want something I know will work well.
My first *nice* reel was a Shimano and after trying a few other brands I find myself coming back to Shimano. One big reason is that they feel so...polished and well made. Then again, I have 0 complaints with the other reels I own, so I probably just have a soft spot for 'em.
Another big reason is that I don't like where the monopoly that is Pure Fishing is going. I would rather give my money to their competitors to keep things...competitive.
Alonerankin2 reply :
About spinning reels... The statement I will make is on shimanos... Last spring I bought a Saros 4000 and really loved the spec. Sheet on it... But after spooling it up and fishing light salt in Florida .. On a trip... Frame flex was pretty bad.. That's Ci4+ and I don't like it..(ci4+) at least on the 4000 size... A 1500 I would think you wouldn't notice. Returned mine... Got a magnesium framed reel and put 65$ back in my wallet to boot . That was a pfluger and I never ever owned one before and it has been flawless.. I mean some pretty hard use too. I wish you luck on you're search, you don't always have to spend bank on fishing equipment ! Good luck and as always,
Happy fishing
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Whether it's Shimano or any other line, $100> gets you into longer lasting, better performing reels. IMO Pflueger spinning reels are hard to beat on a bang-for-your-buck basis especially from the President model and up.
Alonerankin2 reply :
Let me add... I cannot for sure remember it may have been ci4.... Ci4+ was quickly introduced afterwards , also I love Shimano's reels but just not the ci4 material.
deputybc reply :
I have had every baitcaster that shimano has made. With that being said I have sold everyone of them and replaced them with Lews. As for spinning reels a $39 Dollar Pfleuger Trion is better than most of the shimano reals. I gave my $499 stella reel to my son and replaced it with a supreme pfleuger with 10 bearings.
J Francho reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 2:23 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Let me add... I cannot for sure remember it may have been ci4.... Ci4+ was quickly introduced afterwards , also I love Shimano's reels but just not the ci4 material.
Saros is graphite, not CI4.
Hogsticker reply :
Get what you like, buy what you can afford. These threads can get out of hand, and you will never get all non bias responses. The previous response made me chuckle. Gave a Stella to your son and bought a Plueger as it had 10 bearings. Pflueger makes nice bang for your buck spinning reels, but I'm shocked to see that people still believe if a reel has more bearings it must be better, even if the bearings used are total crap. Quality and innovation is what keeps me with Shimano and Daiwa. To me, OEM reels are a dime a dozen. My E series Citica is still the best 120 bucks I ever spent on a reel. No cookie cutters for me. You can spend 100 bucks on a Shimano spinning reel and it will last you a very long time and bring you years of enjoyment. My dad has Shimano spinning reels dating back to the early 90s that are still getting used. Let me know where you're Lews is in 20 years.
WiregrassRiverRat reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 3:07 AM, Hogsticker said:Get what you like, buy what you can afford. These threads can get out of hand, and you will never get all non bias responses. The previous response made me chuckle. Gave a Stella to your son and bought a Plueger as it had 10 bearings. Pflueger makes nice bang for your buck spinning reels, but I'm shocked to see that people still believe if a reel has more bearings it must be better, even if the bearings used are total crap. Quality and innovation is what keeps me with Shimano and Daiwa. To me, OEM reels are a dime a dozen. My E series Citica is still the best 120 bucks I ever spent on a reel. No cookie cutters for me. You can spend 100 bucks on a Shimano spinning reel and it will last you a very long time and bring you years of enjoyment. My dad has Shimano spinning reels dating back to the early 90s that are still getting used. Let me know where you're Lews is in 20 years.
not to spawn argument but my grandfather has an original bb-1 that still works fine.. I think gear lasts as long as you take care of it.. I never broke a guide on a rod until I spent money on a duckett and a guide flew off easy.. up to that point it was the most expensive rod I owned... I am just wandering what gives on some of the prices of shimano and diawa stuff
bootytrain reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 3:16 AM, WiregrassRiverRat said:not to spawn argument but my grandfather has an original bb-1 that still works fine.. I think gear lasts as long as you take care of it.. I never broke a guide on a rod until I spent money on a duckett and a guide flew off easy.. up to that point it was the most expensive rod I owned... I am just wandering what gives on some of the prices of shimano and diawa stuff
That Lews BB1 your grandfather has was made by Shimano. Just look at it this way, if Lews took their top of the line model and priced it $650 like the Calais DC do you think people would buy it? The only way Lews can compete is if they take a higher spec reel and put it in a lower price bracket. That's what Abu has been doing with their Revo line for a few years.
WiregrassRiverRat reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 3:24 AM, bootytrain said:That Lews BB1 your grandfather has was made by Shimano. Just look at it this way, if Lews took their top of the line model and priced it $650 like the Calais DC do you think people would buy it? The only way Lews can compete is if they take a higher spec reel and put it in a lower price bracket. That's what Abu has been doing with their Revo line for a few years.
that being the case... why would you pay for a core100 if it had similar quality and specs as a tourney pro for 100 dollars or more less...? I am just trying to figure this out
J Francho reply :
Take a few of these reels apart after a year's worth of use, and you can quickly see which reels are what. The results are actually surprising, and the good ones don't rest along specific price points, model numbers, or even brands for that matter - only time shakes out the good ones.
bootytrain reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 3:29 AM, WiregrassRiverRat said:that being the case... why would you pay for a core100 if it had similar quality and specs as a tourney pro for 100 dollars or more less...? I am just trying to figure this out
The core100 is made of magnesium, frame and both side plates. That's why it costs what it does. The all aluminum version was the now defunct Chronarch D which was priced at 299. I've never fished the 100 but I have the Core50. I can't speak on the performance of the lews, core 100 or chronarch d, because I've never fished them, but this where personal preferences come in. But I do think they should have at least put bearings in the handle on the core100.
tomustang reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 12:47 AM, WiregrassRiverRat said:so I am looking at the symetre and saros stradic fj..
The Sahara is a good reel but for $20 more the symetre is where I'd go. You can find the stradic cheaper than retail but the stradic is fantastic reel for the money but much more.
On 1/25/2014 at 12:47 AM, WiregrassRiverRat said:How far up in the Shimano line in baitcasters do you feel you have to go to get a quality reel
The citica. And that hasn't changed unless they discontinue it.
bootytrain reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 3:07 AM, Hogsticker said:Get what you like, buy what you can afford. These threads can get out of hand, and you will never get all non bias responses. The previous response made me chuckle. Gave a Stella to your son and bought a Plueger as it had 10 bearings. Pflueger makes nice bang for your buck spinning reels, but I'm shocked to see that people still believe if a reel has more bearings it must be better, even if the bearings used are total crap. Quality and innovation is what keeps me with Shimano and Daiwa. To me, OEM reels are a dime a dozen. My E series Citica is still the best 120 bucks I ever spent on a reel. No cookie cutters for me. You can spend 100 bucks on a Shimano spinning reel and it will last you a very long time and bring you years of enjoyment. My dad has Shimano spinning reels dating back to the early 90s that are still getting used. Let me know where you're Lews is in 20 years.
Yeah.. My ex gf bought me a pflueger spinning reel a few years ago solely based on bearing count.. It has 10 but it still wasnt as smooth as my Sonora that has 3 or maybe 4 bearings lol.
craww reply :
As tomustang said, start at the citica and go up from there. The "D"s were tanks and the E's were far better than anything in they're price range. Don't know anything about the G, other than its going away and is based on the caenan platform. They can be had brand new for $60 right now.
Much has been said about the curado's. There's a reason the "greenies" (CU-200s) are still on boat decks everywhere. Traditionally chronarchs were special reels. I have a 12 year old all original SF purchased from a buddy that used it on several tournament tours years ago. I can get that spool going with less effort than any reel I own (its a pitching beast).
Another thing to consider is resale value. It's like buying a car. If you plan on keeping it for a long time, maybe the Hyundai (pure fishing) and its 100K warranty and bells and whistles at a better sticker price are worth it, to you. A comparable Honda or Toyota (shimano/daiwa) SUV may lack a few gadgets here and there, but will bring a lot more when you part with it because of the name/reputation.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
I would take shimano over lew's every single day of the week. Lew's was a bad experience 3 times over, and I will not go down that path ever again.
Shimano has been very good to me, and that is why I am a shimano fan. I love daiwa as well. Some of you are going to think "he is just a shimano fan club member who has never tried other reels" but that is not the case. I have tried abu, lews, daiwa, shimano, pflueger, and pinnacle, and the only two that impressed me were Daiwa and shimano. Pinnacle was so far below the quality I hoped, and I will never buy from them again (optimus xi-hs).
If you are looking to try a shimano reel, the curado G will be on sale for around $75, and the chronarch E for 99. I would go for the E or an older shimano like the D series, which IMO were the best.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 5:07 AM, craww said:As tomustang said, start at the citica and go up from there. The "D"s were tanks and the E's were far better than anything in they're price range. Don't know anything about the G, other than its going away and is based on the caenan platform. They can be had brand new for $60 right now.
Much has been said about the curado's. There's a reason the "greenies" (CU-200s) are still on boat decks everywhere. Traditionally chronarchs were special reels. I have a 12 year old all original SF purchased from a buddy that used it on several tournament tours years ago. I can get that spool going with less effort than any reel I own (its a pitching beast).
Another thing to consider is resale value. It's like buying a car. If you plan on keeping it for a long time, maybe the Hyundai (pure fishing) and its 100K warranty and bells and whistles at a better sticker price are worth it, to you. A comparable Honda or Toyota (shimano/daiwa) SUV may lack a few gadgets here and there, but will bring a lot more when you part with it because of the name/reputation.
The greenies were awesome reels. I don't know how they are so good, but they can outfish most reels on the market today. I have never used a reel that can cast a 3/4 oz rattletrap as far as the old greenie. I can just about spool it on a cast.
Rangerphil reply :
Shimano stradic fj on eBay for under 140.00! This is the best spinning reel for the money on the market today! Of course that is just my opinion!!
South FLA reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 2:21 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:Whether it's Shimano or any other line, $100> gets you into longer lasting, better performing reels. IMO Pflueger spinning reels are hard to beat on a bang-for-your-buck basis especially from the President model and up
Ditto
Hogsticker reply :
The specs may seem the same on paper, aside from a magnesium frame. Real time differences can be seen on the water in terms of performance and longevity. We are talking stamped mass produced parts vs. Machined quality high tolerance parts. I have no problem with Lews reels, they are good, but to me there is a noticable difference between good and great. When comparing Lews highest offering to say a Core, the Lews just doen not have that "it" factor that I personally desire. A person can't draw this conclusion until they have actually used both reels for a fair amount of time. Just making claims based off specs is useless, however most of the reviews you see are exactly that. Why pay 100 dollars more for a Shimano when I can get the same thing rolled into a Lews package? It boils down to labor, quality control, quality of parts used, etc.
roadwarrior reply :
If anyone else has a Stella and wants to trade it for any Pflueger model,
NIB and shipped direct, I'm in!
Back to the original question: The Symetre is where to start. On the baitcasting
side, Citica
Oregon Native reply :
Have owned Shimano for years. Was given a Stella for a gift and it has been awesome for year after year. It's both light and smooth. Have the older model Curado's and Chronarchs and they are still working smooth and have no need for new ones. Also have several other models and I liked them all. Clean and oil they're good for another year.
Tight Lines
South FLA reply :
Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge vs Toyota vs Honda
I personally like Shimano and Daiwa reels, I have tried and still own other brands (Pflueger, Penn, Ryobi, Abu Garcia, Ardent, Quantum, etc) and I go through stages of likes. For example when the Smoke first came out and I saw Mike casting frogs a country mile compared to my Revo Premiers I had to get one, and it was great for about six months of HEAVY use, after that it had more slop and play in it than a Ford Pinto's gas tank. From my experience the higher priced point reels tend to hold up better and of the higher priced point manufacturers its my opinion that Shimano and Daiwa hold up better after time. Nevertheless, I really think there is a value play for most recreational fishermen with Revos, Pfluegers, Shimano, and Daiwa. around the $120 price point. KVD will still out fish me with a Zebco though!
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 1:37 PM, Hogsticker said:The specs may seem the same on paper, aside from a magnesium frame. Real time differences can be seen on the water in terms of performance and longevity. We are talking stamped mass produced parts vs. Machined quality high tolerance parts. I have no problem with Lews reels, they are good, but to me there is a noticable difference between good and great. When comparing Lews highest offering to say a Core, the Lews just doen not have that "it" factor that I personally desire. A person can't draw this conclusion until they have actually used both reels for a fair amount of time. Just making claims based off specs is useless, however most of the reviews you see are exactly that. Why pay 100 dollars more for a Shimano when I can get the same thing rolled into a Lews package? It boils down to labor, quality control, quality of parts used, etc.
The problem with lews is that all of their reels use the same platform/frame. For the consumers, there is not much incentive to jump up to the higher end reels from a TP because they are basically the same thing.
If shimano were to do this, the shimano citica/curado frame would be used in the core, met, or antares.
Jon G reply :
On 1/25/2014 at 1:09 AM, roadwarrior said:The new Curado will be introduced next month. Rumor has it that both
the E and G will go for +/- $100 on closeout.
Wow i havent heard of this until now. Does this mean any 200E's they possibly may have left will run for 100 or is it the 300E and EJ. Because if I see a 200E7 for $100 I probabllly wont get the new curado...
Hogsticker reply :
I've never seen a discontinued Shimano sale for 50% off. No idea where and how these rumors get generated. I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I'm not holding my breath.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
Academy sports and bass pro both had the curado 200e/50e for $99 when they were discontinued and on clearance.. I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen again. I will be getting a few when it happens.
Goose52 reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 2:29 AM, Hogsticker said:I've never seen a discontinued Shimano sale for 50% off. No idea where and how these rumors get generated. I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I'm not holding my breath.
Not rumors - people are thinking back to when the Citica and Curado "E" models were discontinued. I got a Curado 50E for $98 shipped (50% off). Some of the last Curado 200Es were clearanced under $100 as well (40% off). The final clearance price on Citica E that I saw was $60 or so (50% off).
Not saying that it will happen again...but with the Curado G's baggage (deserved or not), I think people are predicting pretty hefty clearance prices. OTOH - perhaps the major retailers just don't have that high of inventory to have to blow them out that cheap. In a month or so...we'll see how it all pans out.
Gaerith reply :
Dick's already had a sale on the Curado G's for $98 recently, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them clearance for that amount or lower (everywhere) when they get discontinued. I'm curious to see what the Chronarch's go for if they get discontinued. If the Chronarch's end up going for $100, I think it will make for a tough decision whether to get a clearanced Chronarch or the new Curado.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
I think you mean TWO clearanced chronarchs vs a new curado 
WiregrassRiverRat reply :
I went and played with all the shimano and daiwas that my local stores had.. I felt the type R tatula was "loose" compared to the standard tatula.. oddly the reel that blew me away and made me salivate was the chronarch ci4+ or whatever its called.. didnt like the spinning ci4 I like the stradic fj better.. I feel like the chronarch is nice.. but not as nice as the lews tp.. BUT the ci4+ imho and the core stuff beats anything lews could possibly put out... BUT THAT PRICE TAG THOUGH!!
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
The loose type R was probably a lemon.. There is no reason that the type R could be looser than the standard cause there are no differences between the reels actual build, except the drag configuration is a bit different on the type-r.
The price tag isn't too bad on the core/ci4+ if you wait for a nice deal to come around. You can get a ci4+ for $180, and a core for about $270.
JigMe reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 5:18 AM, aprw1 said:The loose type R was probably a lemon.. There is no reason that the type R could be looser than the standard cause there are no differences between the reels actual build, except the drag configuration is a bit different on the type-r.
The price tag isn't too bad on the core/ci4+ if you wait for a nice deal to come around. You can get a ci4+ for $180, and a core for about $270.
Do share? How to get them for that cheap?
bootytrain reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 4:54 AM, WiregrassRiverRat said:I went and played with all the shimano and daiwas that my local stores had.. I felt the type R tatula was "loose" compared to the standard tatula.. oddly the reel that blew me away and made me salivate was the chronarch ci4+ or whatever its called.. didnt like the spinning ci4 I like the stradic fj better.. I feel like the chronarch is nice.. but not as nice as the lews tp.. BUT the ci4+ imho and the core stuff beats anything lews could possibly put out... BUT THAT PRICE TAG THOUGH!!
My suggestion is if you like the Chronarch CI4 then save up the money to get it or you will always have that nagging in the back of your mind what you really wanted when you are fishing something else you bought. Good news is that the new Curado will be out in a month and it looks like its got all the Chronarch Ci4 features but made of aluminum and the reports are that its going to cost about $179.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 5:39 AM, JigMe said:Do share? How to get them for that cheap?
Gander Mtn had the ci4+ for $210 around christmas time.. If you buy from other people, you can get a NIB ci4+ for under $200. Most people sell stuff for 55-70% of retail price..
5dollarsplash reply :
I'm very leery of in store models. Was it out of a box or one mounted to play with? Lots of kids and the like beat on those.
WiregrassRiverRat reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 8:23 AM, 5dollarsplash said:I'm very leery of in store models. Was it out of a box or one mounted to play with? Lots of kids and the like beat on those.
the Tatula R was sadly the only one I could find and it was a display 
But the CI4 they didnt have a display.. BUT I FOUND ONE.. and it was KILLER! I just need a cheaper option so I wonder if I would be happy with citicas and the occasional ci4.. I currently have speed spools.. and am moderately happy.. was thinking of the occasional tourney pro.. which would put me in a cheaper price range over all... unless they marked the chronarchs to 100 bucks.. I would maybe buy 3... I will admit lews speed spool feels cheaper in the hand than a chronarch but there is a HUGE price difference there..
iabass8 reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 2:29 AM, Hogsticker said:I've never seen a discontinued Shimano sale for 50% off. No idea where and how these rumors get generated. I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I'm not holding my breath.
Guess you missed TW sale of the curado E series when the G came out.
I really doubt the chronarch E will be 99$. 120ish maybe. It took a few drops in prices anyway before the curado E hit 99$. Dicks would be the place to look for the huge early discontinued sale of the chronarch.
WiregrassRiverRat reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 9:32 AM, iabass8 said:Guess you missed TW sale of the curado E series when the G came out.
I really doubt the chronarch E will be 99$. 120ish maybe. It took a few drops in prices anyway before the curado E hit 99$. Dicks would be the place to look for the huge early discontinued sale of the chronarch.
looked today and not on sale yet .. hehe I went to academy, dicks and gander.. but I am also waiting on a quote from my local guy.. he is always a help.. getting 3 champs for 562 shipped to my door.. and I feel that is a great deal... I just didnt like the curado.. and I think.. if I wanted to change my whole arsenal to shimano or even diawa.. it would cost me a good 900 dollars.. including trading or selling my speed spools 
iabass8 reply :
The new curado isnt available yet so you obviously wont find them on clearance until they are released at the classic in a month. This is also assuming the chronarch is being diacontinued,
WiregrassRiverRat reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 10:02 AM, iabass8 said:The new curado isnt available yet so you obviously wont find them on clearance until they are released at the classic in a month. This is also assuming the chronarch is being diacontinued,
I will just see what my local guy says.. price wise.. its just going to be hard to sell off all my good lews reels.. lol
dam0007 reply :
Shimanos are not perfect by any means, I've had a few fail but shortly after purchase. Hands down they
last, and last they do. I have the whole spectrum from $30 to $400 of their reels. They all do their job well. I don't knock other brands I own others as we'll but for salt all I use are shimanos. The original bait runner 6500 I have still goes strong over 12 years of being beaten to hell in Long Island sound. But I would like to emphasize maitnence. Take the 2 mins to clean off your reels after every use. For 20/25 once a year send them to a tech to do a full cleaning job if you don't want to DIY. - $0.02
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 2:29 AM, Hogsticker said:I've never seen a discontinued Shimano sale for 50% off. No idea where and how these rumors get generated. I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I'm not holding my breath.
I post about them when I see them like the 50E at BPS $99.97 only afer I ordered mine
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/95067-curado-cu50e-bps-9997/
also posted when the core 50 at Gander was 270 and the core100 was $210 couple months ago.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 5:39 AM, JigMe said:Do share? How to get them for that cheap?
Gander right now core100mg $270 free shipping "low stock"
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Shimano-Core-Baitcast-Reel-100MG&i=410604
JigMe reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 1:17 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Gander right now core100mg $270 free shipping "low stock"
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Shimano-Core-Baitcast-Reel-100MG&i=410604
d**n, I might have to pull the trigger on this and I already have two cores. I was going to get the new Chronarch, but this is a good deal.
OK Bass Hunter reply :
The placement of the bearings in a reel has more to do with quality than the amount of bearings.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 9:07 PM, JigMe said:d**n, I might have to pull the trigger on this and I already have two cores. I was going to get the new Chronarch, but this is a good deal.
Plus take extra 10% off code GME0122 til midnight 26th
for around $243 total
http://www.gandermountain.com/?cID=GME0122
Jon G reply :
I just got back from Dicks and I talked to a guy about the chronarch. He said that they are most likely to sell the chronarch anywhere from $100-160 once the new curado comes out. Lets just hope this is true....
bootytrain reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 9:56 AM, WiregrassRiverRat said:looked today and not on sale yet .. hehe I went to academy, dicks and gander.. but I am also waiting on a quote from my local guy.. he is always a help.. getting 3 champs for 562 shipped to my door.. and I feel that is a great deal... I just didnt like the curado.. and I think.. if I wanted to change my whole arsenal to shimano or even diawa.. it would cost me a good 900 dollars.. including trading or selling my speed spools
Why do you have to change your whole arsenal? Just buy one first and if you like it great, if not you can sell it.
Jon G reply :
Weird that the curado is no longer green
KritterGitter reply :
On 1/26/2014 at 2:29 AM, Hogsticker said:I've never seen a discontinued Shimano sale for 50% off. No idea where and how these rumors get generated. I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I'm not holding my breath.
I see a few other guys have posted on this but my local Gander has their last Citica 200E for 69.99.... I bought the last 201E when it was 79.99....I shouldve waited!!! Oh well, keep lookin ya can find em...
WiregrassRiverRat reply :
On 1/28/2014 at 3:31 AM, Jon G said:Weird that the curado is no longer green
On 1/28/2014 at 3:18 AM, bootytrain said:Why do you have to change your whole arsenal? Just buy one first and if you like it great, if not you can sell it.
That looks sharp ..
I am just saying if I did like it... the switch would be pretty expensive.. and I like my stuff to match as best as possible
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