I am interested in trying out some big game mono for my mh-f casting rod mainly used for jigs, Texas rigs, chatterbaits, and spinnerbaits.
What lb test would be best for baitcasters? Mainly used from shore some laydowns and rocks. Was thinking 12-15lb.
Also clear vs green line, Any advantage either way?
Used to braid with leader but curious to try straight mono, something without too much stretch.
Yeah, either will work. I like 12 for smaller baits, 15 for larger ones and heavier cover. Chatters I always go with 15. Clear or green is a personal preference thing, I use green 12 and clear 15, so I can tell them apart at a glance, the fish don't care.
12-15lb Big Game sounds good. I even use 10lb from time to time as I try to get away with the smallest diameter line I can. I fish clear waters so I like lighter, clear line.
15lb big game would work well for the applications mentioned. Thats what I would prefer, although 12lb would probably do the job just fine
I would usually use 15lb for those lures so I'm ready if I'm throwing in some weeds. If you know you only fish clear water and don't have to worry about weeds, then 12lb is fine.
I personally almost always stick to the clear line but green is fine too, I don't think it's a big deal.
Man everyone is all about this stuff. I may have to try it out or the Berkley Trilene XL smooth casting line. How does the Big Game hold up for memory? Comparable to similar market price mono.
On 11/30/2018 at 10:48 PM, Tyler. said:Man everyone is all about this stuff. I may have to try it out or the Berkley Trilene XL smooth casting line. How does the Big Game hold up for memory? Comparable to similar market price mono.
It definitely has some memory. I would be very skeptical about using it for spinning, however, I don't even notice it when using bait casting. Pull the trigger on some big game, if your looking for great value you won't regret it.
On 11/30/2018 at 10:48 PM, Tyler. said:Man everyone is all about this stuff. I may have to try it out or the Berkley Trilene XL smooth casting line. How does the Big Game hold up for memory? Comparable to similar market price mono.
Tyler,
Both are the XL and the Big game are good line and have been around for years. 15-20 years ago Berkely and Stren were the two major players in the fishing line market.
The big game normally punches well above it weight class meaning 12 lb has a 15lb breaking strength and 15 lb may be 18-20#'s. The XL is also tests above advertised just not as much over as big game. Big game is more abrasion resistant and stiffer, XL is less abrasion resistant then big game but a more limp and manageable line. Both are very reasonably priced.
Take the above for what it is worth if you decide to try some out.
Tight lines,
Fishingmickey
On 11/30/2018 at 11:14 PM, Fishingmickey said:Tyler,
Both are the XL and the Big game are good line and have been around for years. 15-20 years ago Berkely and Stren were the two major players in the fishing line market.
The big game normally punches well above it weight class meaning 12 lb has a 15lb breaking strength and 15 lb may be 18-20#'s. The XL is also tests above advertised just not as much over as big game. Big game is more abrasion resistant and stiffer, XL is less abrasion resistant then big game but a more limp and manageable line. Both are very reasonably priced.
Take the above for what it is worth if you decide to try some out.Tight lines,
Fishingmickey
So the XL Smooth Cast in the red box may be more versatile for spinning and bait casting gear. It's easier to get a 6 or 8# test in the XL smooth cast vs big game.
On 11/30/2018 at 11:16 PM, Tyler. said:So the XL Smooth Cast in the red box may be more versatile for spinning and bait casting gear. It's easier to get a 6 or 8# test in the XL smooth cast vs big game.
Yes, I think the XL is much more applicable for spinning then Big game. I myself personally would not go down to that low of a pound test on a bait caster (gonna get jumped for that comment). Bait casterfor me is 10lb and up, spinning 10lb and down.
FM
On 11/30/2018 at 10:51 PM, ratherbfishin1 said:It definitely has some memory. I would be very skeptical about using it for spinning, however, I don't even notice it when using bait casting. Pull the trigger on some big game, if your looking for great value you won't regret it.
The little memory issues I have with Big Game on baitcasters is solved with a little KVD line and lure or Reel Snot application.
I am skeptical about using it on spinning gear as well. I prefer 8# Sufix Elite mono for my spinning gear.
I've been using Big Game for decades. I like the Solar Collector (12# or 15#) for bottom contact baits like jigs and T-rigs because I'm an incurable line watcher and it's MUCH easier for my old eyes to see. I use 10# clear for crankbaits, jerkbaits, topwater and spinnerbaits.
Lately, I've been trying BPS Excel mono and I'm liking it pretty well also.
Tom
Well 15lb it is then. Thanks for the replies. How do you guys find the sensitivity?
I use BG 15# for all my baitcast trebles (including topwaters) and spinnerbaits/buzzbaits/chatterbaits. Reaction baits that I want the fish to get a really good bite on before I set the hook. It is very tough stuff. I also use about a 5 ft. leader of it for my jig rod for low visibility-my main line on that rod is 30# braid. I caught my PB on the aforementioned spinnerbait rod and I've had to literally drag big fish as heavy as 7 lb. out of heavy brush and from under a dock with the jig rod. Since it's so cheap, I usually change it out twice a year. I also use it for a cheap backing on my reels that I use braid on to save $$$. Also, keep a check on the end of it when you catch multiple fish. If you store your rods where it can get really hot/cold or near a heater, check it before heading out. It can get brittle from the elements.
I use the clear line. Since I'm using it mainly for moving baits, I'm not concerned with the sensitivity. I use 20# braid on my spinning combos. But I will still use a leader of BG sometimes.
My #1 line of choice is 15# Big Game Mean Green ????
Berkley Big Game is the highest abrasion resistance mono on the market.
With any monofilament the less you fish the more coils you will experience.
As for line conditioners, throw that in the trash!
For the price of Big Game I simply re-spool
On 11/30/2018 at 10:48 PM, Tyler. said:Man everyone is all about this stuff. I may have to try it out or the Berkley Trilene XL smooth casting line. How does the Big Game hold up for memory? Comparable to similar market price mono.
I've tried XL on BCs, but its a bit too stretchy for me, and no where near as rugged as BG. For cranks or JBs in open water it works ok. BG is about par with most other monos for memory, but it's not an issue unless its really cold out, then it becomes a wonderful toy that's fun for a girl and a boy.
I don't recommend big game unless your using it for backing now all the old timers here will push mono on you because they are accustomed to it or used to it but I found myself asking this very question not to long ago and I'm telling you go with copoly, floro or briad always, times have changed and mono is useless in my opinion.
I've fished braided Cotton, Dacron, Micron, Suture Material (Silk), Micro Dyneema®, Kevlar, & Spectra.
Fluorocarbon has as much stretch as mono with far less abrasion resistance & shock absorption.
Copolymers in my opinion does nothing that Impresses.
On 12/1/2018 at 1:21 AM, Catt said:My #1 line of choice is 15# Big Game Mean Green ????
Berkley Big Game is the highest abrasion resistance mono on the market.
With any monofilament the less you fish the more coils you will experience.
As for line conditioners, throw that in the trash!
For the price of Big Game I simply re-spool
My favorite for casting reels also. Tough, affordable- seems like it's tailor made for baitcasters.
Old timer... Humph young whippersnappers thinking we don't know nothing bout them new falooting high dollar expensive scientific lines.
I have loved using braid, but my favorite rod has micro guides and leader through the guides doesn't work for me regardless of knot.
So it's either short leaders or spool up with straight big game mono. Fluorocarbon is too much trouble for my liking.
Figured it's cheap enough to try it out for a season. Still haven't made up my mind if fish care about line (braid, colors, etc).
On 12/1/2018 at 1:44 AM, Burrows said:I don't recommend big game unless your using it for backing now all the old timers here will push mono on you because they are accustomed to it or used to it but I found myself asking this very question not to long ago and I'm telling you go with copoly, floro or briad always, times have changed and mono is useless in my opinion.
They are so cute at that age....
On 11/30/2018 at 10:51 PM, ratherbfishin1 said:It definitely has some memory. I would be very skeptical about using it for spinning, however, I don't even notice it when using bait casting. Pull the trigger on some big game, if your looking for great value you won't regret it.
*I recently saw Big Game #8 lb. in Academy , I couldn't believe it as #10 lb. was as small as I thought Big Game came .
On 12/1/2018 at 2:03 AM, Catt said:I've fished braided Cotton, Dacron, Micron, Suture Material (Silk), Micro Dyneema®, Kevlar, & Spectra.
Fluorocarbon has as much stretch as mono with far less abrasion resistance & shock absorption.
Copolymers in my opinion does nothing that Impresses.
*FC line is like an ex- girlfriend that you have a love / hate relationship with ! ... I appreciate how invisible it can be in clear water along with the sensitivity - but that is all . FC line doesn't rebound after stretching the way a good mono / co-poly does ; too many stretches and the FC line will break . FC Knots ? - Don't even get me started ...
up here in Canada we can get 8 and 6 pound big game in the 1/4 spools (at Canadian tire for example). I have used the 8 on spinning gear.
I have used 12 on baitcasting gear, but I found that another 'tough' line Sufix Siege is just as strong and abrasion resistant but it is much more limp and more slick so it casts way farther on casting gear. So I switched to Siege from Big Game.
however, it is much more expensive as you cannot get it in the cheap bulk spools like you can Big Game. However, for me its, worth it, I use 10 on spinning and 12 on casting gear. its awesome stuff.
On 12/1/2018 at 3:41 AM, ChrisD46 said:*I recently saw Big Game #8 lb. in Academy , I couldn't believe it as #10 lb. was as small as I thought Big Game came .
*FC line is like an ex- girlfriend that you have a love / hate relationship with ! ... I appreciate how invisible it can be in clear water along with the sensitivity - but that is all . FC line doesn't rebound after stretching the way a ghood mono / co-poly does ; too many stretches and the FC line will break . FC Knots ? - Don't even get me started ...
I wouldn’t mind some 8# as you know the lighter the line the easier it is to cast.
How about this stuff? Anyone tried it? You get quite a bit for the price.
Have you heard of McCoys brand Mean Green or Clear copolymer?
It's so much more limp than even Trilene XL. It's really fantastic line and reasonably priced too.
I used to use XL for ever but two years ago I switched to McCoys and have to say is much better on casting and spinning rods. It's excellent for texas rigs and jigs too.
I also use Big Game sometimes for a leader on braided line.
I use 8lb BG on some of my smaller abus its a nice size for baitcasters and 4000 size spinning reels .you wont be disappointed with any BG line ive used it the last 30 yrs with never a fail..8 lb comes in 1500yrds also for 7$
On 12/1/2018 at 1:44 AM, Burrows said:I don't recommend big game unless your using it for backing now all the old timers here will push mono on you because they are accustomed to it or used to it but I found myself asking this very question not to long ago and I'm telling you go with copoly, floro or briad always, times have changed and mono is useless in my opinion.
I can tell you don't fish poppers and walking baits very often. Or, maybe you fish a rod that is a wet spaghetti noodle with some 20# braid. Because flouro SINKS and braid will bend out EVERY hook on a smaller topwater bait upon hooks. IMO, mono is the best of both worlds in most topwater applications. Tough, floats, and yet has enough stretch to keep you from bending hooks and missing fish.
On 12/1/2018 at 10:23 AM, waymont said:Have you heard of McCoys brand Mean Green or Clear copolymer?
It's so much more limp than even Trilene XL. It's really fantastic line and reasonably priced too.
I used to use XL for ever but two years ago I switched to McCoys and have to say is much better on casting and spinning rods. It's excellent for texas rigs and jigs too.
I also use Big Game sometimes for a leader on braided line.
Does this line actually have less memory than trilene xl? I’ve been meaning to try a spool preferably 6 and 8lb on spinning reels
On 12/1/2018 at 1:44 AM, Burrows said:I don't recommend big game unless your using it for backing now all the old timers here will push mono on you because they are accustomed to it or used to it but I found myself asking this very question not to long ago and I'm telling you go with copoly, floro or briad always, times have changed and mono is useless in my opinion.
Man I'm only 32, not quite an old timer yet, I use a lot of mono, and I catch a few fish sometimes ????
On 12/1/2018 at 1:44 AM, Burrows said:I don't recommend big game unless your using it for backing now all the old timers here will push mono on you because they are accustomed to it or used to it but I found myself asking this very question not to long ago and I'm telling you go with copoly, floro or briad always, times have changed and mono is useless in my opinion.
We old timers use it because we know it work in certain applications, we call it experience. ????
On 12/2/2018 at 7:04 AM, tander said:We old timers use it because we know it work in certain applications, we call it experience. ????
And what are those certain applications?
On 12/2/2018 at 1:00 PM, pauldconyers said:And what are those certain applications?
Cranking and top water.
I always use green Big Game. I have no idea whether it's true or not, but I was told long ago that the dyes added to nylon to color it also make it more UV resistant. That's important to me in June, July and August. jj
Whatever you may fish with, fish with confidence and you will bring in more fish!
On 12/2/2018 at 1:00 PM, pauldconyers said:And what are those certain applications?
Everything except frogs and deep drop shot.
I've used fluoro for years now on bottom contact baits and a couple months ago I tried big game just to see if I would like it. Blew my mind how much more sensitive straight fluoro was. I had stayed on the lake after dark one day and wasnt able to watch my line like I normally do. Had a fish on at one point and never felt a thing whereas fluoro the majority of the time will send a jolt up the rod. Berkley 100% fluoro is a very strong, sensitive and shock resistant line and it isnt crazy expensive. It's a larger diameter line but is the strongest I've tried. I will say the less stretch marketing hype of fluoro is complete crap. It does stretch but is more dense than mono making it way more sensitive and being less visible in water is a bonus. That sufix advance line is one that in my mind would be a good alternative to mono and much cheaper than fluoro. I have some but havent fished it yet but have spooled some up and dragged baits along my rock driveway at my shop and it to me is more sensitive than regular mono. Can you still catch bass flip'n mono? Dang right you can but if you've gotten used to fluoro there's just no comparison.
On 11/30/2018 at 10:48 PM, Tyler. said:Man everyone is all about this stuff. I may have to try it out or the Berkley Trilene XL smooth casting line. How does the Big Game hold up for memory? Comparable to similar market price mono.
For better or worse, Memory is a trait expected with mono.
In my opinion it fares about the same as any typical memory so I’d say yes to your question, and I’ve used trilene xl, Xt, spiderwire, and, even omniplex.
They all eventually acquire memory but you have to ask yourself, is it really an issue that affects performance? Unsightly? Perhaps. Performance or show stopping? Not in my book. I don’t mind memory one bit, on spinning or casting reels.
One line of mono that to me seems to acquire memory the “slowest” and this is just loose observation, is suffix elite or siege. However, both will still acquire it.
Bottomline, big game and the others I’ve mentioned are excellent monofilament lines that you can’t go wrong with.
I also like monofilament for its economic impact on my wallet.
All monofilament, copolymer & fluorocarbon lines have memory to various degrees.
What I found is the more you fish the less memory they have but let any of them sit they all coil bad.
This is another reason I've chosen Big Game, at $6.79 for a 900 yd spool I change line often.
Heres my question about floro . It is not elastic like mono and does not snap back . Does that mean once it is stretched , a person is now fishing with damaged line ?
On 12/6/2018 at 11:15 PM, scaleface said:Heres my question about floro . It is not elastic like mono and does not snap back . Does that mean once it is stretched , a person is now fishing with damaged line ?
Yup.
On 12/6/2018 at 11:15 PM, scaleface said:Heres my question about floro . It is not elastic like mono and does not snap back . Does that mean once it is stretched , a person is now fishing with damaged line ?
Fluoro does have some elasticity, but short answer to your question, yes.
So I had a reel that neededsome new line. So when my shift was over I swung by Walmart. I got the usual couple packs of rage swimmers, SK senkos, even got a couple 2.50$ Plano trays.
And then it happened. I seen the 30lb power pro. My pride and joy. Favorite line ever. Right below it, this stuff called 15lb big game trilene. Strangely enough I bought it. A whole 900yds of the stuff.
I haven't used mono for 10yrs. Why now? Why did I buy it? I blame the old guys on bass resource...
On 12/7/2018 at 1:03 PM, NittyGrittyBoy said:I haven't used mono for 10yrs. Why now? Why did I buy it? I blame the old guys on bass resource...
You're welcome
Of my six rods/reels, 3 have mono, 1 has fluoro and 2 have braid...depends on the situation as to what I use.
On 11/30/2018 at 10:51 PM, ratherbfishin1 said:It definitely has some memory. I would be very skeptical about using it for spinning, however, I don't even notice it when using bait casting. Pull the trigger on some big game, if your looking for great value you won't regret it.
X2
On 11/30/2018 at 9:43 PM, NYWayfarer said:12-15lb Big Game sounds good. I even use 10lb from time to time as I try to get away with the smallest diameter line I can. I fish clear waters so I like lighter, clear line.
I also use 12-15 pound test Big Game Mono for bass fishing and like how abrasion resistant it is.
On 12/1/2018 at 1:44 AM, Burrows said:I don't recommend big game unless your using it for backing now all the old timers here will push mono on you because they are accustomed to it or used to it but I found myself asking this very question not to long ago and I'm telling you go with copoly, floro or briad always, times have changed and mono is useless in my opinion.
I am still young and prefer fishing with Big Game mono over any other type of mono. Hard to argue with results when most experienced members on this forum who like Big Game mono tend to catch plenty of +6 pounders on this line.
On 12/2/2018 at 11:29 PM, Tyler. said:Whatever you may fish with, fish with confidence and you will bring in more fish!
This is true and it is easy to be confident in a line if you spent many years catching big fish on it.
On 12/2/2018 at 7:04 AM, tander said:We old timers use it because we know it work in certain applications, we call it experience. ????
Well said!
Back in the early 2000s I tried Berkley Big Game in 15 or 20lb test, for jigs. I spooled up one time with Big Game and I couldn't believe how stiff the line was. I couldn't even get it to lay down properly on a Baitcasting reel ? Is it possible they changed their formula between 2002 and now ?
Once upon a time, before fluorocarbon became available and affordable in large spool sizes, I used only Big Game. That was probably a 20 year period of time. Caught loads of fish on it using it for about every application and technique available. Nothing wrong with the stuff at all. However, once I made the switch to fluoro, I'm now pretty much "all in." If I ever have to switch back or use mono (nylon) for any applications, it will probably still be Big Game for me.
Back in the 80's BASS used to cover their Opens in Bassmaster magazine with an added feature. The top five finishers gear was provided. I noted a huge trend because sponsorship's were far less then. Casting reels were Shimano Curado B series and line was Berkely Big Game. When anglers had to foot their own bill, that made a statement. #15
Wow I got this stuff spooled up today and it's not near as bad as I remember. The memory ain't bad as I remember either!
I have high hopes for this mono!!
By the way, can I tie a Palomar knot with mono?
On 12/9/2018 at 7:24 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:By the way, can I tie a Palomar knot with mono?
A correctly tied Palomar knot is one of the strongest knots you can make with mono. The biggest thing to remember is when you double your line thru the eye of your bait don't allow the lines to cross at the eye when you tie your overhand knot. As long as the lines lay parallel on the eye of the bait you'll never have the line bite into itself and cause weakness. This isn't a major problem with mono anyway. Mostly floruo.
On 12/9/2018 at 7:24 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:Wow I got this stuff spooled up today and it's not near as bad as I remember. The memory ain't bad as I remember either!
I have high hopes for this mono!!
By the way, can I tie a Palomar knot with mono?
You can tie and use a Palomar knot with any line type. Works very well with mono.
Based on all the positive responses, I stopped by bass pro today and grabbed a spool of big game 15lb clear mono and of course a few other goodies. Thanks for all the helpful opinions.
On 12/9/2018 at 3:34 AM, Team9nine said:Once upon a time, before fluorocarbon became available and affordable in large spool sizes, I used only Big Game. That was probably a 20 year period of time. Caught loads of fish on it using it for about every application and technique available. Nothing wrong with the stuff at all. However, once I made the switch to fluoro, I'm now pretty much "all in." If I ever have to switch back or use mono (nylon) for any applications, it will probably still be Big Game for me.
exactly!!! why go back in time though?
On 12/9/2018 at 7:24 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:Wow I got this stuff spooled up today and it's not near as bad as I remember. The memory ain't bad as I remember either!
I have high hopes for this mono!!
By the way, can I tie a Palomar knot with mono?
nice micro magic!!!!!
Thanks! I'm a duckett fan haha! Great rods