Troubling YouTube Vid 2024

U-boat Aficionado reply :

Not going to say which one, but was watching a newly posted video from one of the popular channels and amid the clowning around and eating lunch footage a rod broke during a cast. Certainly rods break but the folks in the video were disparaging the brand and talking about getting a new sponsor which left me questioning the validity of the incident. This wasn't the first time I've seen a situation like this either.

Fishing is a big industry and traditional shows on TV are about pushing products. I just don't recall people saying a competitors product sucks in the process. If it's a straight up product review, that's fair game. But when you're being sponsored and paid to use something, isn't it a bit unseemly to trash a previous sponsors product?

Just curious what others think as the YouTube thing is exploding now and money is getting thrown around.

DesertBass reply :

I seen the vid and I think it's better than pushing something you don't believe in.He gave his honest opinion on the rod sponsor or no sponsor,which I can appreciate.

MassYak85 reply :

If he was only trashing it just because it was a previous sponsor, that's a bad look. But if that's how they genuinely feel, I cant blame them for speaking their mind.

U-boat Aficionado reply :

I'd agree with that but there's no way to know if there wasn't a new sponsor in waiting or a falling out with the old prompting the incident. It's all fun and games until there's money or the promise of money.

iabass8 reply :

On 7/18/2016 at 4:44 AM, U-boat Aficionado said:

I'd agree with that but there's no way to know if there wasn't a new sponsor in waiting or a falling out with the old prompting the incident. It's all fun and games until there's money or the promise of money.

He isn't sponsored and isn't paid by Powell rods. He just wants to use a different rod company because he keeps breaking his Powell rods. He only said he wanted to "switch rod companies" because he seemingly likes to use just one rod company for all his rods. The clown did the same thing when a quantum reel handle broke on him and he threw it in the lake. This youtube fishing stuff is becoming Keeping up /w the Kardashians esque. How these guys have more of a following and influence than the folks at, for example, T.aC.ticalBassin is mind boggling..

NathanDLTH reply :

On 7/18/2016 at 4:53 AM, iabass8 said:

He isn't sponsored and isn't paid by Powell rods. He just wants to use a different rod company because he keeps breaking his Powell rods. He only said he wanted to "switch rod companies" because he seemingly likes to use just one rod company for all his rods. The clown did the same thing when a quantum reel handle broke on him and he threw it in the lake. This youtube fishing stuff is becoming Keeping up /w the Kardashians esque. How these guys have more of a following and influence than the folks at, for example, T.aC.ticalBassin is mind boggling..

Cutting to the chase, the video in question is from LunkersTV and Rob who may seem a bit harsh at times I think gives an honest opinion. If a the handle of a reel hand broken off during fishing good chance I would of done the same. I understand your concern, but don't see it as you do. Whether you think it's turning into kardashians style or what, there is still plenty of people who can learn from these YouTubers. If rods were snapping on me during mid cast I would consider changing sponsors. One could argue that rods n reels are expendable such as barrels are to competitive to shooters, however I don't think a shooter who's barrel or gun that during middle of a competition throws the odd round that they would stay with that company or not have a serious conversation with their sponsor. If this is a continued behavior with LunkersTV then there would be concern.

MIbassyaker reply :

I'm going to see if I can muster enough effort to do the sponsor's job of caring about this sort of thing; Ok, here goes....

"mmmmnnnnnnnnnnh........uuuuuhhhhhnnhhnnnnnhhhhh!...."

Nope, can't do it.

trick worms reply :

I would be mad if a rod broke for no reason too

Mosster47 reply :

On 7/18/2016 at 4:53 AM, iabass8 said:

He isn't sponsored and isn't paid by Powell rods. He just wants to use a different rod company because he keeps breaking his Powell rods. He only said he wanted to "switch rod companies" because he seemingly likes to use just one rod company for all his rods. The clown did the same thing when a quantum reel handle broke on him and he threw it in the lake. This youtube fishing stuff is becoming Keeping up /w the Kardashians esque. How these guys have more of a following and influence than the folks at, for example, T.aC.ticalBassin is mind boggling..

It's very simple. Matt and Tim go out and catch fish on a daily basis that would be most people's PB or a fish they only catch once a year at best. They do fish some of the best water on the planet, but they do better than most on that water.

There isn't any drama and there aren't any tricks. They put in a ridiculous amount of time and it pays off, which is the only way to become a good stick.

With all of this most people don't have the time like Matt (fishing guide) and Tim (game warden & guide) to always be out there.

These YouTube "stars" go out on normal water and catch 2lb fish all day. That's a thing that most guys can relate to. Watching guys boat flip 8 pounders on Top 10 lakes with 10" lures is very hard to relate to. Also, Matt & Tim are swim bait guys which is hard for people to relate because they don't want their couple days a month to end up with a couple bites at best.

Matt does just enough to keep his boat loaded with clients. These other guys are trying to make a living being normal fisherman. Legit vs. Pretend.

The West Coast Big Baiters should have a insane following too, but they don't for the same reason.

lakeannaangler reply :

I understand that rods breaking is frustrating and you get angry when things you paid for break. He is entitled to his opinion and if a companies rods keep breaking over and over I would stop using them too. It is his choice to switch to a different brand . Rods breaking isn't a new thing.

EvanT123 reply :

Bad reviews are everywhere. Check out amazon or tw's review section. I'm not worried about what someone on YouTube says. If they don't like a rod that's good for them.

Fishinthefish reply :

If I had a rod snap on me mid cast the verbal tyrade that would follow would most likely end up having my videos require that you are 18 plus to watch them. And everyone I talk to about fishing would know how I felt about the company. I don't blame him at all for losing it just the little that he did.

S. Sass reply :

First thing that comes to mind is childish. Second is immature.

Acting like a brat is one thing. Not editing the brat out of your video before posting is another.

Shock n aww to get ratings "likes" "subscribers" may be great as you trash one company. Kids like it and some young adults get kicks from it.

But what this mentality doesn't show is the fact ALL the other sponsors are watching thinking what if we sponsored this kid?

So while the instant gratification of his channel may be great he may very well be cutting off the very hands he wishes feed him. Most all the companies with big money to sponsor are ran by mature adults. Might want to consider that.

There are ways to handle issues adult and mature like.

Delaware Valley Tackle reply :

On 7/18/2016 at 9:38 AM, trick worms said:

I would be mad if a rod broke for no reason too

Rods don't break for no reason. Unless it was a new Rod and never been fully loaded, 90%> chance it had been compromised by poor handling, or by accident.

Grantman83 reply :

I recently broke a rod on the water simply unhooking a jig from the hook keeper. Snapped about 6 inches off. Silent shock for a second. No tirade necessary as it isn't going to accomplish anything.

Called the company, explained the situation and exactly how it happened. Because I was honest and nice, guy sent me a new rod without asking for a receipt or proof of purchase. Had the rod for a year and it had been used sparingly. It was during a tournament, I simply switched rods for the rest of the day.

Point is, being calm and rational usually gets you a much further than flipping out over something you cannot change at the moment. Rods break and as has been said, usually it's user error or abuse. No company goes out to intentionally make rods which break as they wouldn't be in business long.

FrankN209 reply :

I just watched the video, if you look at the 4:30 mark, they was on a golf cart and it went under some trees and you can hear the rod hitting the branches. I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it breaking..

Bluebasser86 reply :

If you've watching any of the other videos from any of the guys in that particular video, it's no surprise they break rods. High-sticking, boat flipping, slamming rods around, literally throwing rods, dead-lifting fishing while holding the rod a foot from the tip, yeah, it was probably the companies fault.

new2BC4bass reply :

On 7/18/2016 at 11:07 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Rods don't break for no reason. Unless it was a new Rod and never been fully loaded, 90%> chance it had been compromised by poor handling, or by accident.

Have to agree with Mike. If you've been using a rod right along and one day it snaps on a cast, I highly doubt it is the company's fault for making bad rods. I have rods from at least 14 companies. The only one I ever broke came from falling face first into a pile of rocks....and the company (Falcon) gave me a $200 rod for $80 even though I told them exactly what happened.

S Hovanec reply :

On 7/18/2016 at 4:53 AM, iabass8 said:

He just wants to use a different rod company because he keeps breaking his Powell rods.

Disclamer: i did not see the video in question, so i don't know the circumstaces.

If he keeps breaking them, one needs to question if it's not actually him instead of the rods. How they're transported and stored. Breaking on the cast or hookset is nothing new when talking about a compromised blank. Was it impacted prior? Whacked on the gunnell? Stepped on? People are quick to trash a rod for breaking when in fact, operator error is the real reason it broke.

BassThumbAddict reply :

I love when the Youtube fishing world gets brought up on here. You get to see a plethora of strong opinions.

Senko lover reply :

If you've watched his other videos, you'll know that he's broken like it has to going on 7-8 other Powells too. He does do a lot of moving around and traveling with his rods and I guarantee he puts a lot of abuse onto them. So I'm sure that has something to do with it. But he gets more frustrated each time lol

I'll be interested to see how his next company of choice's rods do against the Lunkers TV torture test. Maybe he'll finally figure out it's probably just him, not the rods.

Big-Bass reply :

Link?

new2BC4bass reply :

On 7/18/2016 at 9:05 PM, S Hovanec said:

Disclamer: i did not see the video in question, so i don't know the circumstaces.

If he keeps breaking them, one needs to question if it's not actually him instead of the rods. How they're transported and stored. Breaking on the cast or hookset is nothing new when talking about a compromised blank. Was it impacted prior? Whacked on the gunnell? Stepped on? People are quick to trash a rod for breaking when in fact, operator error is the real reason it broke.

I haven't seen the video either, but I know Powell has a good reputation for making very nice rods at decent prices. They wouldn't have that reputation very long if they had a rod breaking problem. Just ask the manufacturer of the old Carrot Sticks. I've only got one Powell, but would not hesitate to buy more. This guy's video wouldn't change my mind either.

FrankN209 reply :

It wasn't lunker who broke it, it was Jon B. who did. Jon usually uses Cousins rods.

J Francho reply :

I got three minutes in, couldn't stomach it anymore.

.ghoti. reply :

On 7/18/2016 at 10:02 PM, J Francho said:

I got three minutes in, couldn't stomach it anymore.

You're a better man than I. Didn't make it close the three minute mark. I can't say, in this setting, what I truly think.

Hez reply :

On 7/18/2016 at 11:07 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Rods don't break for no reason. Unless it was a new Rod and never been fully loaded, 90%> chance it had been compromised by poor handling, or by accident.

If you watch the video - this is the same rod that he got caught in the tree while riding in the golf cart - I honestly thought that possibly could have contributed to the breakage.

With that being said - I took notice how he made mention of Powell rods...didn't really think a lot about it. It did make me wonder if Powell was sponsoring them or what. But...it's a free world - if he wasn't happy with the performance of the rod, and this has truly happened multiple times - you have the right to express your opinion, even if it is for 150K subscribers to see.

Just my opinion

Rhino68W reply :

It's his channel, his opinions. Definitely didn't look to be staged in my opinion. The dude went to cast a swimbait and SNAP! By the sounds of their conversation that wasn't the first rod of that brand to do that.

Master Bait'r reply :

On 7/18/2016 at 11:07 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Rods don't break for no reason. Unless it was a new Rod and never been fully loaded, 90%> chance it had been compromised by poor handling, or by accident.

This is to a T what I was going to say haha... Defects generally are a "break the first time" sort of thing. If their warranty claim starts with "I was just fishing along like normal when..." That claim is bunk. Lol.

On 7/18/2016 at 10:30 PM, hezeez@gmail.com said:

If you watch the video - this is the same rod that he got caught in the tree while riding in the golf cart - I honestly thought that possibly could have contributed to the breakage.

Possibly?? He should throw *himself* out of the boat in a tantrum. Having a legit problem is fine. Creating a problem and then blaming someone else is weak sauce.

blckshirt98 reply :

Can someone PM me a link to the video, I just tried searching for it quickly but couldn't find it!

Hez reply :

On 7/19/2016 at 1:30 AM, blckshirt98 said:

Can someone PM me a link to the video, I just tried searching for it quickly but couldn't find it!

- I think it is in this one

4:30 he hits the tree

5:10 he breaks the pole

blckshirt98 reply :

Thanks for the link! I dunno how anyone can watch this stuff, or why. Nothing informative or entertaining.

Hez reply :

I watch it with my kids - we get a kick out of it...it's a lot better than some of the other junk on TV

Fun4Me reply :

I don't mind the fishing videos, if they stick to fishing. It's the *look at me*, *look at where I'm eating*, *look at my attempt at being a comedian* etc. that I find less than enjoyable. Sadly Flukemaster is heading in that direction as well.

S. Sass reply :

On 7/19/2016 at 2:15 AM, Fun4Me said:

I don't mind the fishing videos, if they stick to fishing. It's the *look at me*, *look at where I'm eating*, *look at my attempt at being a comedian* etc. that I find less than enjoyable. Sadly Flukemaster is heading in that direction as well.

You ever see Ducks with their ducklings? This is how the YouTube crowd runs. You see one do a video on something and within a week all of them are doing something very similar.

Fluke guy is old enough to be these kids dad he's running around with. Or dang close. I keep thinking of Jared from Subway when I see that crowd.

U-boat Aficionado reply :

On 7/19/2016 at 2:05 AM, blckshirt98 said:

Thanks for the link! I dunno how anyone can watch this stuff, or why. Nothing informative or entertaining.

Wanted to see footage from iCast, and there wasn't really much. Also, like it or not, acts like this are going to be a bigger part of the industry and I want to know what it's all about.

WPCfishing reply :

Powell sent me a couple 3D rods to try. I thought they were excellent to say the least. The one deal breaker for me was the minimal reel seat. It was extremely uncomfortable. Biting in to my hand and fingers. If they offered the ACS seat I'd own 6 of them. Great rods and workmanship.

Big-Bass reply :

Well this video sucks...at 5:00 he is walking with what looks like a chronarch lefty and 10 seconds later the rod he breaks has a Curado E on it and its righty. Looks set up.

Hez reply :

On 7/19/2016 at 2:59 AM, Big-Bass said:

Well this video sucks...at 5:00 he is walking with what looks like a chronarch lefty and 10 seconds later the rod he breaks has a Curado E on it and its righty. Looks set up.

wow...good eye

buzzfrog reply :

I watch most of the said kids. I don't wanna get deep, but all them present themselves as yuppies. I know what options are like. Yada yada.

Delaware Valley Tackle reply :

On 7/19/2016 at 2:15 AM, Fun4Me said:

I don't mind the fishing videos, if they stick to fishing. It's the *look at me*, *look at where I'm eating*, *look at my attempt at being a comedian* etc. that I find less than enjoyable. Sadly Flukemaster is heading in that direction as well.

When you get big the pressure is on to post more and more. The content tends to suffer.

DesertBass reply :

Imo it's a lot better than the crap on tv.

If you stay away from his vlogs he has a lot of good content.

I also enjoy 1rod1reel because it's just fishing with all the crap thrown out of the mix.

kickerfish1 reply :

People who abuse their gear get what they deserve.

CastingLures reply :

For everyone wondering here's the link.

I love the MTB fishing group and I'd be frustrated if a 200 dollar rod broke too. Stop giving these great guys trash, they put a ton of time into these vids. And what kind of "huge controversy are you talking about?"

Fun4Me reply :

On 7/19/2016 at 10:31 AM, CastingLures said:

For everyone wondering here's the link.

I love the MTB fishing group and I'd be frustrated if a 200 dollar rod broke too. Stop giving these great guys trash, they put a ton of time into these vids. And what kind of "huge controversy are you talking about?"

Interesting first post. Welcome to BR

Bluebasser86 reply :

On 7/19/2016 at 10:31 AM, CastingLures said:

For everyone wondering here's the link.

I love the MTB fishing group and I'd be frustrated if a 200 dollar rod broke too. Stop giving these great guys trash, they put a ton of time into these vids. And what kind of "huge controversy are you talking about?"

Trash talking a rod company because a rod broke, doesn't look great. They have a big enough following, I bet if they talked to the company about the issue, they'd be happy to try to resolve the issue to continue getting the exposure. However, I know if I was in charge of a company and saw that video, it would make me a bit worried about sponsoring them, especially if it was a newer/smaller company.

I had a $250 rod break on me suddenly a couple weeks ago, even got it on video. I've owned it for several years, caught probably thousands of fish on it, it's not the companies fault and I know that. I saved the video, but didn't throw a tantrum and trash talk their rods because of it. I sent it in along with my money to get it replaced this morning. I know it was something I had to have done to the rod and accept that instead of the ever so popular "It's someone else's fault", mentality that seems to be so prevalent anymore.

MediumHeavy reply :

You think that was an epic tirade?? Sure, that break was almost certainly due to previous wear and tear on the rod. But a break like that combined with the timing was probably an extra bummer. Didn't seem too over the line and giving his comments on Powell are his prerogative. Have you seen Iaconelli have a meltdown? Now those are intense! Sure, he doesn't trash sponsors, but to say these kids are out of line seems a bit harsh. I've never seen intentional equipment abuse in any of their vids.

These guys are all in the 19-25 age range and are finding some success because they have so many followers and posting videos like theirs is good marketing to the younger set. That's the way things are going, like it or not. They beat the banks a lot, search out small ponds, travel around, and recently are getting to travel around. They're having fun doing something they enjoy, and learning and growing as they go along. Companies are paying attention.

Its fine if you don't like their videos, to each their own. But a lot of folks in this thread sound like a bunch of old sticks in the mud, being pretty harsh on these kids.

Anyway, they're promoting something we all have in common--a love for fishing.

doyle8218 reply :

On 7/19/2016 at 6:43 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

When you get big the pressure is on to post more and more. The content tends to suffer.

Isn't that the truth!

Fun4Me reply :

I'm willing to look past who is complaining in an attempt to understand their accusation.

It seems that the problem the guys are talking about is with the new Powell rods.

Skip to 2:55 in this video.

The question is, are these guys just really hard on equipment (the admission that an older Powell rod was slammed on by a locker) or are Powell rods suffering in quality, and prone to breaking from no abuse in the new versions?

faygo1979 reply :

I am not a fan of their newer style videos but I don’t see an issue with them whining about a rod company that they have had issues with Just because it is a popular company does not really mean anything. Look at all the whining about the orange rods on this site, Same thing in my opinion.

Jaderose reply :

On 7/19/2016 at 1:57 AM, hezeez@gmail.com said:

- I think it is in this one

4:30 he hits the tree

5:10 he breaks the pole

THIS is the video you guys are arguing about? These are children and children act like morons. I didn't watch and I won't watch it because I have no interest in something titled "Fishing from a golf cart". Of course they are acting like idiots. 18 (or whatever) year olds ARE idiots. I certainly was.

sarcazmo reply :

I really don't enjoy ANY of their stuff. At all. The whole 'vlog' format in general seems really... Stupid? I don't care about what you ate or whatever else you're doing that day, I'm looking for specific fishing content.

I guarantee you the way they treat their equipment, it doesn't really matter what brand they use they'll all end up broken. (Sans good ole ugly stiks perhaps)

If you want to send a message don't subscribe or watch their videos. That's what I've done.

fissure_man reply :

3 pages, 1500+ views and counting (not including guests?), links to videos, on the biggest fishing forum on the internet...

All good publicity.

lmbfisherman reply :

Personally I admit I watched them a lot especially during the winter. However they were actually pretty good until they all got sponsored or too big for their britches. i no longer watch them. They all use to be honest and cool.

Bluebasser86 reply :

I think this one has more than run it's course.

LOCKDOWN!!

2361

Troubling YouTube Vid 2024

related Fishing Rods Reels Line Knots topic

previous topic

next topic

most viewed Fishing Rods Reels Line Knots topic