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Catt reply :
Over the years I have tried many different types of fluorocarbon lines & quite honestly wasn't really impressed with any of them.
I recently bought a spool of Seaguar InvizX 17# test & while I have not fished with it I'm pretty impressed!
Just pitching & casting in the bayou across the street it handles very well, cast smooth, & generates feel really well.
The real test will be in ten days flipping-n-pitching jigs in buck brush to pre-spawn/spawning bass on Toledo!
ResoKP reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 2:53 AM, Catt said:Seaguar InvizX 17#
On 3/7/2019 at 2:53 AM, Catt said:flipping-n-pitching jigs in buck brush
... maybe should've gotten AbrazX instead?
Catt reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 3:02 AM, ResoKP said:... maybe should've gotten AbrazX instead?
Nope!
When I get there at daylight I will be fishing creek channel swings with scattered buck brush & standing timber but when I move shallower into the thicker brush it will be with braid.
ResoKP reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 3:26 AM, Catt said:
Nope!
When I get there at daylight I will be fishing creek channel swings with scattered buck brush & standing timber but when I move shallower into the thicker brush it will be with braid.
lol okay, you do your thing man but if you start to break off constantly or have issues setting the hook or not getting the sensitivity you were expecting, don't blame it on fluoro... ????
Catt reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 3:38 AM, ResoKP said:lol okay, you do your thing man but if you start to break off constantly or have issues setting the hook or not getting the sensitivity you were expecting, don't blame it on fluoro... ????
InvizX comes highly recommended by an friend who has won 40% of every BFL tournament held on Toledo Bend. It's his opinion & that others that InvizX is only second to Tatsu.
But thanks for the insight, you aint the first to suggest AbrazX!
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riverbasser reply :
Flurocarbon still and will probably never be my favorite line but the positives have outweighed the negatives. So until they make something better it's what I'll use for the few techniques it excels at
J Francho reply :
I much prefer Invisx to AbrasX.
ratherbfishin1 reply :
Got my first spool if invisx this winter and like @Catt I have been just tried flipping and pitching it around a tad while waiting for the ponds to unfreeze. I am also extremely impressed. I have used quite a few other brands and a friend swore by this stuff and bought me some and dang it’s nice. I am so excited for the ice to go away so I can really put it to use. If anybody’s considering new flouro I would also highly recomend this stuff, at the same time though, I still have to put it to the test.
RyneB reply :
I love Invizx. I use it as for leaders on my drop shot and is also my favorite jig line.
Tizi reply :
I got my first spool of Invisx this year too. 12 pound test. I am very impressed with it. Casts well, low memory, good knots, I use it on my t-rig/jig rod.
lo n slo reply :
i made the switch to InvisX last year ????
Drew03cmc reply :
Fluoro is for leaders in my mind. I hate it as a mainline.
fishwizzard reply :
I have 12lb Inzivx on 4-5 rods and it’s by far my most used line. I really like it and am often surprised at how much abuse it can take. Some of my less-used reels have had the same line on for like two seasons and As always I remember to squirt a little L&L on it the night before, it still handles great.
ResoKP reply :
InvizX is a great line but I cannot stand the stretch using it for jigs/bottom baits.
Personally I use FC Sniper 20# for jigs if I'm going the straight fluoro set up.
Else, Sufix 832 braid 30# with 15# Blue Label leader.
I'll happily use InvizX for finesse stuff like dropshots but for setting the hook with a jig or big single hooks... no stretch is better (for me anyways... apparently I'm alone in this? lol)
jbrew73 reply :
Can anyone else give an opinion on how invizx compares to sunline sniper?
A-Jay reply :
A very good friend of mine & superior stick in his own right, is a Stout InvisX Deciple.
In fact it was his performance & results with the line south of the border a couple of years ago - that had me finally make the switch. Especially after witnessing him do this with that line - (20lb)
And @Catt if you like the InvisX and I'm somewhat hesitant to tell you this but - The Tatsu might be a little 'better'.
Have Fun
A-Jay
dodgeguy reply :
I hated flouro for years but have finally fallen in love with invisx. Going to try Tatsu.
Catt reply :
@A-Jay Yeah I watched that video on YouTube.
Been following you for a while ????
I had been looking at AbrazX, InvizX, & Tatsu trying to decide which one to try first. Where I live there is an Academy, Dick's, & two smaller tackle shops. So when I walked into Academy & saw InvizX on sale for $19.99 for a 200 yd spool it was an easy choice.
Mike L reply :
I tried InvisX a few years ago and used it for all techniques except 2 and liked it, until I tried Sniper and never spooled it again.
InvisX has too much stretch for my liking and not as manageable as Sniper.
Useing it for trebel hook moving baits would be ok, but for me Sniper is superior to all other flouro lines except Tatsu.
Mike
Catt reply :
FYI InvizX is now on sale at Academy for $14.99!
@Mike L y'all need to quit that...I don't wanna buy more line!
Glenn reply :
InvisX has been a staple in my arsenal for a number of years. I'm very impressed with it. I use it for a variety of techniques. I also use Tatsu for those techniques that require super supple line, such as finesse tactics and Senko fishing. Never had any issues since making the switch.
Given Seaguar invented fluorocarbon fishing line, I'd say they have the upper hand on this area.
Mike L reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 9:20 PM, Catt said:FYI InvizX is now on sale at Academy for $14.99!
@Mike L y'all need to quit that...I don't wanna buy more line!
Sorry Pal!
InvizX is good line if you don't mind it's inordinate amount of stretch.
If you like mono for moving treble hook baits but want the advantages of flouro, it would be your best option.
On 3/7/2019 at 9:43 PM, Glenn said:InvisX has been a staple in my arsenal for a number of years. I'm very impressed with it. I use it for a variety of techniques. I also use Tatsu for those techniques that require super supple line, such as finesse tactics and Senko fishing. Never had any issues since making the switch.
Given Seaguar invented fluorocarbon fishing line, I'd say they have the upper hand on this area.
Seaguar may have invented it but in my opinion any advantage that gave has been long surpassed by others.
Mike
J Francho reply :
Invisx is SUPPOSED to stretch. If you think Sniper is that great, you probably haven't used Tatsu. I've tried so many fluoros, and they vary widely in stretch, stiffness, and abrasion resistance. Sniper is good, but not the end all. Fact is, I can't settle on just one line as a general fluoro recommendation, though Invisx comes close, for the guys coming from Big Game, Yo-zuri, or some other popular line. I'm not surprised @Catt likes it in 17 lb. size. I'm working through a 15 lb. 1000 yd. spool since last year. It's been my go to for general purpose, "I don't know what I'm going to use this rig for" setups. It's funny, the longer I fish, the less specialized my gear has become. But that's a whole 'nother topic...
microotter reply :
Does it work well as leader? (8lb for spinning reel)
Mike L reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 10:27 PM, J Francho said:Invisx is SUPPOSED to stretch. If you think Sniper is that great, you probably haven't used Tatsu. I've tried so many fluoros, and they vary widely in stretch, stiffness, and abrasion resistance. Sniper is good, but not the end all. Fact is, I can't settle on just one line as a general fluoro recommendation, though Invisx comes close, for the guys coming from Big Game, Yo-zuri, or some other popular line. I'm not surprised @Catt likes it in 17 lb. size. I'm working through a 15 lb. 1000 yd. spool since last year. It's been my go to for general purpose, "I don't know what I'm going to use this rig for" setups. It's funny, the longer I fish, the less specialized my gear has become. But that's a whole 'nother topic...
Well then there you go.
If you want a stretchy flouro InvisX is for you.
And Yes, as a quality fluorocarbon line that has all the attributes I want/need it Sniper is that "great" for me.
Also, as I said before Tatsu is the gold standard especially for lighter finesse presentations, which as I've also said before I do not do.
In my opinion Sniper and for different requirements Shooter, has an overall advantage.
But as you put it..the end all?
Until something else better than Sniper/Shooter for larger diameter lines and Tatsu for smaller lines comes along, yes I guess for me it is.
Mike
ResoKP reply :
lol I think we're all on the same page regarding Tatsu as being the best. Nobody is denying that.
I'm just surprised so many people use a super stretchy line like InvisX as their go-to line for JIGS that's all.
InvisX is a great line but for jigs? No way I'd ever spool it.
But I kind of get it. I'm sure there's someone out there that prefers XXH rod fishing a weightless senko and is better than all of us here so he swears by it since it's worked for him the past 200 years.
J Francho reply :
Confirms what I always realize in these threads: line choice is very personal. Often, one tiny positive, or worse, a tiny negative experience can define one's opinion about what is best. So far, Seguar hasn't let me down. Many others have. Keep in mind, I was a all CXX person just a half decade ago, and shunned fluoro after early experiences.
ResoKP reply :
Yea, line choice seems very personal. Also, I think waterbody conditions in each of our local zones play a big factor too.
Though, it seems like some people here are fishing swimming pools with 12lb fluoro if they're managing not to break off or retie so often fishing jigs...????
J Francho reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 10:41 PM, microotter said:Does it work well as leader? (8lb for spinning reel)
It will work fine, but 8# Blue Label will work better.
On 3/7/2019 at 11:06 PM, ResoKP said:Though, it seems like some people here are fishing swimming pools with 12lb fluoro if they're managing not to break off or retie so often fishing jigs...????
Lakes Erie and Ontario are pretty big swimming pools. I'll use 12-20# fluoro fishing shallow in spring, depending on the cover. Once the mats kick in, I use 50# braid. If I'm fishing rock reefs or rip rap, back to fluoro. Zebra mussels slice through braid.
Catt reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 10:27 PM, J Francho said:Fact is, I can't settle on just one line as a general fluoro recommendation, though Invisx comes close, for the guys coming from Big Game, Yo-zuri, or some other popular line. I'm not surprised @Catt likes it in 17 lb. size.
I haven't abandoned Big Game ????
All of the recommendation I did get for InvizX was for 20#.
My personal opinion on line stretch some how effecting your hookup ratio is over hyped!
The vast majority of my jig/worm fishing in done at depths of 15-25' in either grass or standing timber. My biggest concern is abrasion resistance not line stretch.
On 3/7/2019 at 10:27 PM, J Francho said:@Catt
That's pretty cool... don't double tap ????
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J Francho reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 11:21 PM, Catt said:My personal opinion on line stretch some how effecting your hookup ratio is over hyped!
Based on all the fish I caught using Trilene XL all those years, I agree. I actually thought I was "high brow" using XL over Big Game, lol.
GReb reply :
Saw some guy pulled a 14 pounder out of Toledo Bend in a tournament last weekend. @Catt
Boomstick reply :
InvizX is an all around good line. I'll be interested to hear your long term experience with it, especially as you're using it for a situation I'd probably go with AbrazX for instead.
I have also never been a believer that you absolutely have to have a low or no stretch line, but I've never caught a 10 pounder either.
Catt reply :
On 3/7/2019 at 11:54 PM, Boomstick said:InvizX is an all around good line. I'll be interested to hear your long term experience with it, especially as you're using it for a situation I'd probably go with AbrazX for instead.
I have also never been a believer that you absolutely have to have a low or no stretch line, but I've never caught a 10 pounder either.
When some anglers review a product they'll use it once or twice. I'll use InvizX for an entire year before passing judgement.
J Francho reply :
We actually rely heavily on stretchy line for really big fish, with more fight than any bass, small or large jaw. Cute little salmon I caught on 8# Suffix Siege:
Boomstick reply :
On 3/8/2019 at 12:03 AM, J Francho said:We actually rely heavily on stretchy line for really big fish, with more fight than any bass, small or large jaw. Cute little salmon I caught on 8# Suffix Siege:
Good point. Mono is very common for saltwater fishing for the same reason. Nice salmon. Also good call on the Sufix Siege line, I've had great luck with it both in handling and holding up.
GReb reply :
On 3/8/2019 at 12:03 AM, Catt said:
When some anglers review a product they'll use it once or twice. I'll use InvizX for an entire year before passing judgement.
My favorite is when people review products they haven’t even used once!
ResoKP reply :
On 3/8/2019 at 12:03 AM, J Francho said:We actually rely heavily on stretchy line for really big fish, with more fight than any bass, small or large jaw. Cute little salmon I caught on 8# Suffix Siege:
But would you use #8 Sufix Siege fishing jigs in brush piles tho
I'm in Canada btw. we catch those salmons with 6# lines no problem lol. I've also caught them on 20# straight braid too ????♂️
I thought this thread was about jigs.. A jay posts a cool double digit catch video but i see no jigs in there and now we got salmons ????
J Francho reply :
There's plenty of craggy rocks and fallen timber in the ditches I fish. If one breaks off, so what, there 10,000 more to hook. I already said I used 15-20# fluoro or braid for jigs. Try and keep pace with the conversation. My comment was about STRETCH, and that it's not necessarily a bad thing. I doubt there are any DD bass in Canada, or NY for that matter.
Team9nine reply :
I’ve been using InvizX for over 8 years now, and Tatsu for 3. If I HAVE to have abrasion resistance, I keep a couple spools of Toray Superhard Upgrade on hand. Otherwise, as someone else alluded to, my mantra is, the more I know, the less I throw. This goes for line variety, too. I have no interest in buying and fishing every single line in an effort to find “the best” for specific applications. Just me. I find what works well and stick with it.
Also not sold on the differences in stretch as a matter of practicality when talking mono and fluoro. So Sniper only stretches 19% while Tatsu stretches 22% and InvizX stretches 25% for the same force applied. So what? At the end of a perfectly reasonable 80 ft cast, we’re still talking ~15’ of stretch in a best case scenario (Sniper). On a short line bite with say 10’ of line out, it’s the difference between almost 2’ of stretch vs 2.5’ of stretch. Who’s to say more stretch isn’t better in that case.
At reasonable fishing distances, line diameter is much more important in my mind. Since Sniper and InvizX are nearly identical, I’m sure both would perform equally well.
WRB reply :
Comparing FC line you need to factor in the line diameter and both Seaguar and Sunline are honest with diameters to lb test rating. The next factor is price per yard not price per filler spool size.
Sunline Shooter FC is equal to Seagaur Tatsu in performance and was the FC I started using in the mid 90's. The Shooter filler spools were $35 for 300 meters, today it's $35 for 164 yards. Sunline Sniper was only available to 8 lb test when it came out as a finesse FC, now availble in a wide range of sizes. I would put Sniper in the same performance as InvisX.
When Shooter increased price Toray Hi Test Bass Solar Roam FC came out and was $35 for 200 yard spool and it's a good FC, now $33 for 82 yards.
When Seaguar Tatsu came out at $40 for 200 yards I tried it and it is up there in performance with Shooter, Toray Hi Class. Seaguar hasn't change their yardage per spool and prices increases are reasonable.
Bottom contact lure is where FC excels, knot performance is where it falls short of mono or coploy line.
It will be interesting how Catt likes FC for night fishing.
Tom
Mike L reply :
@Catt
If you will, keep us (if no one else is interested..me) updated of your experiences with it as we fish similar water.
Interested in your real world opinion.
Mike
Catt reply :
@ResoKP No sir this thread is about InvizX line. I just happened to put it on my jig rod because my worm rod has 15# Big Game & a Watermelon Neon Liz-zard on it...that aint changing.
@Mike L Dang sure will ????
Djohn reply :
Invizx is great stuff just tie a good knot.
Catt reply :
Three weeks of using InvizX
I can not say a whole lot about sensitivity because everything I've caught with it absolutely inhaled the lure.
Knot strength has been a non-issue.
There are two dislikes so far!
One is when working a jig or t-rig the line slapping against the eyes is very audible. I don't think it effects anything, just irritating to me.
Two is this line coils way worse than Big Game!
Heartland reply :
Sherman, set the wayback machine to the year 2005....
Mike L reply :
I've been using flouro for years and I can honestly say I've never noticed any amount of line slap, no matter the brand or strength.
Are you using a spinning rod with it?
I wouldn't know as I don't use them.
As far as the coils, some have an inordinate amount where others have far less.
I use Sniper and Shooter and both have it with the Shooter having far more.
I attribute that to its make up as it's far less subtle.
I know you know this, but useing some L&L all around the spool instead of just in one spot and you won't have that problem.
You can use it during the day also but just make sure it dried before casting again.
Mike
Jrob78 reply :
Mike L is right, this is where KVD L&L is worth every penny. It really helps cut down that memory. I spray the spool really well the night before a trip.
fishwizzard reply :
On 3/31/2019 at 7:27 PM, Catt said:
One is when working a jig or t-rig the line slapping against the eyes is very audible. I don't think it effects anything, just irritating to me.
I feel that way about braid, the sound of it coming through guides is like a very minor version of “nails on a chalkboard” to me.
Catt reply :
@Mike L No sir don't own a spinning reel. I probably work a jig/t-rig more than most, everybody flips or pitches it a moves it once or twice.
I'm a little more aggressive ????
Catt reply :
Update
I have never been a big fan of Kevin VanDam's Line & Lure Conditioner.
I tried some again yesterday after I was Gibb slapped & told quite over spraying it!
Absolutely made a difference with the InvizX!
Ya can teach a Ole Catt new tricks! ????
I do wanna give a shout out to @roadwarrior Yo-Zuri Hybrid is the real deal.
Glaucus reply :
On 4/3/2019 at 6:26 PM, Catt said:Update
I have never been a big fan of Kevin VanDam's Line & Lure Conditioner.
I tried some again yesterday after I was Gibb slapped & told quite over spraying it!
Absolutely made a difference with the InvizX!
Ya can teach a Ole Catt new tricks! ????
I do wanna give a shout out to @roadwarrior Yo-Zuri Hybrid I the real deal.
YZH with KVD L&L is just amazing. I've been on the YZH train for awhile but never did the L&L until this year. In limited experience with it so far it turns YZH into almost a different line, for the better, and it was already great.
fishwizzard reply :
L&L is like cologne, a little goes a long way and too much is worse then none at all.
Catt reply :
After one month ????
Personally if I have to use a conditioner for a line to preform correctly I aint that impressed!
I am however keeping an open mind!
Sensitivity: IDK, most of the fish I've caught have been shallow, ready to check it out in deep water.
I will tell you the Yo-Zuri Hybrid has impressed my more than the InvizX. Now with I've only used it on Spinnerbaits, Chatterbaits, & Traps
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