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New tatula rods and reels 2024


fishing user avatarchoppertime reply : 

Does anyone own either of diawas new tatula rods or reels? I want a new set up and am liking the spider concept grapics.....what exactly is their  reaction rod made for....spinner baits,bladed jigs....crankbaits.......I'm not sure....so a little help...thank you


fishing user avatarCrankFate reply : 

Can’t speak on the new rods. The last years version are way overpowered compared to their ratings. I have the supposedly lightest one (7 foot) and it’s sweet spot is 1-2 ounces. It was disappointing because I got it for weightless worms and wound up using it in saltwater for fish up to 7lbs. No problem using it for that. Can’t load up a cast under 3/4 oz ☹️

 

The reels are awesome. I like the CT so much I spent about $400 customizing it. Already ordered some Abec bearings for the black 2018 for the levelwind and internals. Waiting to fish the stock spoolbearings before deciding whether to swap them out for ceramics. They really do have a nice stoppy feel to them, like mags, but better.


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 

The new 100 is a nice reel. Stock bearings needed to be flushed and one of the 2 i have were a little dry in the gears but that was an easy fix. The store that outfits sportsmans ( i think you can figure out who that is) sells the new tatula for 99$ /w free shipping. 


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 1/9/2019 at 8:49 AM, iabass8 said:

The new 100 is a nice reel. Stock bearings needed to be flushed and one of the 2 i have were a little dry in the gears but that was an easy fix. The store that outfits sportsmans ( i think you can figure out who that is) sells the new tatula for 99$ /w free shipping. 

Is the advertising on the Tatula 100 from Daiwa or from the store?  Quote, "And with a feather weight of 6.9 ounces it may be the lightest, most fatigue free, reel Daiwa has ever built."

 

That is nowhere near the lightest reel Daiwa has ever built.  Thus it probably isn't the most fatigue free reel either.


fishing user avatarpunch reply : 
  On 1/9/2019 at 8:49 AM, iabass8 said:

The new 100 is a nice reel. Stock bearings needed to be flushed and one of the 2 i have were a little dry in the gears but that was an easy fix. The store that outfits sportsmans ( i think you can figure out who that is) sells the new tatula for 99$ /w free shipping. 

Been out of stock of right handers for a while now. 


fishing user avatardam0007 reply : 
  On 1/9/2019 at 11:44 AM, new2BC4bass said:

Is the advertising on the Tatula 100 from Daiwa or from the store?  Quote, "And with a feather weight of 6.9 ounces it may be the lightest, most fatigue free, reel Daiwa has ever built."

 

That is nowhere near the lightest reel Daiwa has ever built.  Thus it probably isn't the most fatigue free reel either.

Definitely lightest Tatula model

  On 1/9/2019 at 8:49 AM, iabass8 said:

The new 100 is a nice reel. Stock bearings needed to be flushed and one of the 2 i have were a little dry in the gears but that was an easy fix. The store that outfits sportsmans ( i think you can figure out who that is) sells the new tatula for 99$ /w free shipping. 

The new rods too for that price. Good find!


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 1/9/2019 at 11:52 AM, dam0007 said:

Definitely lightest Tatula model

 

Okay, but the ad says "lightest...reel Diawa has ever built".   Not true.  Lightest Tatula?  Yes.


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 
  On 1/9/2019 at 12:04 PM, new2BC4bass said:

Okay, but the ad says "lightest...reel Diawa has ever built".   Not true.  Lightest Tatula?  Yes.

No, it says it “may be”. Its just marketing hype like the project T videos. Every company does it. Its super smooth for a 100$ +- reel and casts really well. As for where advertisment came from, I have no idea. Every reel tea leaf always makes it sound “game changing”. 


fishing user avatarwaymont reply : 

I love all of them. I have two Tatula LT 2000, two 2 Tatula LT 3000 spinning reels, one Tatula Medium 6'6" Spinning rod, and one Tatula 150 casting reel. The LT3000 and matching rod is the lightest, best balanced  rig I have ever felt.

It's perfect. The 2000LT's are my finesse reels. They have held up to 4lb bass and 35" pike with no problems.

The 150 casting reel weighs about 8oz and took a little getting used to but now I love it. I was used to Lew's 6.3oz reels. It casts great without any issues and is super smooth. I decided to change a bunch of gear last season, and after trying out a bunch of stuff I kept settling on the Tatula stuff. That's my 2 cents.


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 1/9/2019 at 12:39 PM, iabass8 said:

No, it says it “may be”. Its just marketing hype like the project T videos. Every company does it. Its super smooth for a 100$ +- reel and casts really well. As for where advertisment came from, I have no idea. Every reel tea leaf always makes it sound “game changing”. 

Yup.  You are right.  I guess I kind of ignored those two words.  Not trying to knock Daiwa as slightly more than half my reels are Daiwas.


fishing user avatarCrankFate reply : 
  On 1/9/2019 at 8:49 AM, iabass8 said:

The new 100 is a nice reel. Stock bearings needed to be flushed and one of the 2 i have were a little dry in the gears but that was an easy fix. The store that outfits sportsmans ( i think you can figure out who that is) sells the new tatula for 99$ /w free shipping. 

+1

 

I was surprised to see a greased Drag when I opened it up.


fishing user avatarNathanDLTH reply : 

Have the new Tatula 100 and spent time casting this weekend and have to say distance is good. On par with my SV’s I’d say, mine was a little rough out of the box so with a little oil everything was smoothed up. Probably could go through it and it would help, just don’t care that much. It’s a sweat reel. I’ve only held the rods in store and they seem to be quite nice, good feel and balance to them. 


fishing user avatarpunch reply : 
  On 1/9/2019 at 8:53 PM, NathanDLTH said:

Have the new Tatula 100 and spent time casting this weekend and have to say distance is good. On par with my SV’s I’d say, mine was a little rough out of the box so with a little oil everything was smoothed up. Probably could go through it and it would help, just don’t care that much. It’s a sweat reel. I’ve only held the rods in store and they seem to be quite nice, good feel and balance to them. 

What stores have the new tatula rods? I havn't seen them anywhere yet.


fishing user avatarJrob78 reply : 
  On 1/10/2019 at 5:29 AM, punch said:

What stores have the new tatula rods? I havn't seen them anywhere yet.

TW has them, they have full cork grips and retail for $150.


fishing user avatarColumbia Craw reply : 

Fear the Spider


fishing user avatarstratoliner92 reply : 
  On 1/9/2019 at 8:32 AM, CrankFate said:

Can’t speak on the new rods. The last years version are way overpowered compared to their ratings. I have the supposedly lightest one (7 foot) and it’s sweet spot is 1-2 ounces. It was disappointing because I got it for weightless worms and wound up using it in saltwater for fish up to 7lbs. No problem using it for that. Can’t load up a cast under 3/4 oz ☹️

 

The reels are awesome. I like the CT so much I spent about $400 customizing it. Already ordered some Abec bearings for the black 2018 for the levelwind and internals. Waiting to fish the stock spoolbearings before deciding whether to swap them out for ceramics. They really do have a nice stoppy feel to them, like mags, but better.

Which model# is the rod, your talking about the 2018 Tatulas right ? 


fishing user avatarCrankFate reply : 

TXT701mlrb, it’s a nice rod, but the 14 to 5/8 rating isn’t even close. I use it for 1 1/2 oz and it’s perfect for that.  Caught some good size fish on it, too. But there is no way to cast the rated weight, unless your just flippin. It is amazingly thin and light for fishing around an ounce and I love it for that application.  Its supposed to be for “Shallow Crankin” but it is way too stiff for that purpose. The Tatula Elite is probably better for this weight, but the BPS Crankin Stick is better still, and I wound up getting two of them after bouncing every single rod in the store. Ordered the Tatula rod blind off the internet. Big mistake. The reel is a CT I liked it so much, I upgraded everything and now it makes my 2018 Tatula 100 feel too heavy. 

 


fishing user avatarBass_Fishing_Socal reply : 

I have this for that past 3-4 months. I’m trying to get rid of it but no take lol. I’m sorry I can’t tell you how it fish. I like old Tatula so much and I don’t like cork, so this one is still brand new.

It is 6’6 M/F that I plan to use for Fluke and Jerkbait. It is pretty light weight but the tip is not as soft as I like.

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fishing user avatarCrankFate reply : 
  On 1/11/2019 at 3:04 PM, JustJames said:

I have this for that past 3-4 months. I’m trying to get rid of it but no take lol. I’m sorry I can’t tell you how it fish. I like old Tatula so much and I don’t like cork, so this one is still brand new.

It is 6’6 M/F that I plan to use for Fluke and Jerkbait. It is pretty light weight but the tip is not as soft as I like.

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That’s the same problem I had.


fishing user avatarJunger reply : 

I have the TDZ 7' MXB, and it has a soft tip, even though it's XF. 

 

Looking at the new spider Tatulas, I don't see anything comparable. But the OG Tatula has a 610 M/XF with a lure range of 3/32-1oz. I haven't handled it, but that may be one to consider. I bought the 6'9 ML/R for jerkbaits but found the action too parabolic for my desires.

 

Edit: I find the new tatula casting line up pretty unimpressive in terms of variety, everything is 1/4oz and up.


fishing user avatarstratoliner92 reply : 
  On 1/11/2019 at 7:53 AM, CrankFate said:

TXT701mlrb, it’s a nice rod, but the 14 to 5/8 rating isn’t even close. I use it for 1 1/2 oz and it’s perfect for that.  Caught some good size fish on it, too. But there is no way to cast the rated weight, unless your just flippin. It is amazingly thin and light for fishing around an ounce and I love it for that application.  Its supposed to be for “Shallow Crankin” but it is way too stiff for that purpose. The Tatula Elite is probably better for this weight, but the BPS Crankin Stick is better still, and I wound up getting two of them after bouncing every single rod in the store. Ordered the Tatula rod blind off the internet. Big mistake. The reel is a CT I liked it so much, I upgraded everything and now it makes my 2018 Tatula 100 feel too heavy. 

 

So that's the " XT " model you have, not the full cork Tatula

tps://www.americanlegacyfishing.com/daiwa-tatula-xt-7-0-med-light-jerkbait-rod-txt701mlrb.html

     Thanks


fishing user avatarBaitFinesse reply : 
  On 1/12/2019 at 12:22 AM, Junger said:

I have the TDZ 7' MXB, and it has a soft tip, even though it's XF. 

 

Looking at the new spider Tatulas, I don't see anything comparable. But the OG Tatula has a 610 M/XF with a lure range of 3/32-1oz. I haven't handled it, but that may be one to consider. I bought the 6'9 ML/R for jerkbaits but found the action too parabolic for my desires.

 

Edit: I find the new tatula casting line up pretty unimpressive in terms of variety, everything is 1/4oz and up.

The 610M is a odd rod.  It has a solid carbon tip that is very soft but it is a dropshot rod.  I wouldn't want to cast a 110 style jerkbait on it for fear or breaking the highly flexible solid tip.

 

Edit: darn auto correct  


fishing user avatarResoKP reply : 

What does the "C" in TALT3000D-CXH represent? Confusing because 1000, 2000, 2500 doesn't have the "C" but 3000 & 4000 has the "C".

 

Also, how is it that the deep spool version of TALT3000D-CXH (6.2oz) weighs less than TALT3000-CXH (6.3oz)?

 

Is TTU701MFS (Tatula 7' M/F Spinning) a better choice over FR 703SF (Dobyns Fury 7' M/F Spinning)?

 


fishing user avatarJunger reply : 
  On 1/12/2019 at 1:22 AM, BaitFinesse said:

The 610M is a odd rod.  It has a solid carbon tip that is very soft but it is me and as a dropshit rod.  I wouldn't want to cast a 110 style jerkbait on it for fear or breaking the highly flexible solid tip.  

Wow - I just read up on the solid graphite tip top on those 6'10 M/XF's, yeah I'd be hesitant pushing 1oz too. 

 

I have the 7' M/XF and I don't think it has the same tip, but I'll check when I get home for the extra wraps. Love that rod for weightless plastics though.


fishing user avatarBass_Fishing_Socal reply : 

@Junger, if you don’t plan to use Tatula 610MXB for finesse or semi finesse, don’t buy it. It is nice super soft tip (3/32oz) rod with a lot of backbone (1oz). It light and crispy, plenty of sensitive. It handle weightless plastic trickworm or Ned rig pretty well. When you hook on fish, it feel a lot bigger due to super soft tip.

Until I did a good hookset on Bass, when it grabbed my Fluke and run on the drop. My line broke and next time out the rod tip was gone. That how I got new Tatula as replacement.

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fishing user avatarCrankFate reply : 
  On 1/12/2019 at 12:22 AM, Junger said:

 

Edit: I find the new tatula casting line up pretty unimpressive in terms of variety, everything is 1/4oz and up.

I assume when the mfg gets a hot item, like the Tatula reel, it’s easy to get people to buy the “matching” rod. Most casting rods are pretty unimpressive. That’s why, IMO, it’s always so hard to find the ones you need.


fishing user avatarBass_Fishing_Socal reply : 
  On 1/12/2019 at 9:02 AM, CrankFate said:

I assume when the mfg gets a hot item, like the Tatula reel, it’s easy to get people to buy the “matching” rod. Most casting rods are pretty unimpressive. That’s why, IMO, it’s always so hard to find the ones you need.

This is so true, ever since I broke my favorite rod, crucial gen 2 dropshot specific rod, I have bought total of 5 rods new/used and still can’t find any rod that matched.


fishing user avatarCrankFate reply : 

And then I come across this while searching for Shimano reels:

 

http://www.daiwa.com/scandinavia/contents/reels/pro_tw100sv/index.html

 

looks like a SV 2018 Tatula, by looking at the drag star and mag dial, but older style handles, not sure though...

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fishing user avatarpunch reply : 

Hrm the knobs are different on that one than the Tatula 100. 


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 
  On 1/13/2019 at 9:32 AM, CrankFate said:

And then I come across this while searching for Shimano reels:

 

http://www.daiwa.com/scandinavia/contents/reels/pro_tw100sv/index.html

 

looks like a SV 2018 Tatula, by looking at the drag star and mag dial, but older style handles, not sure though...

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It's been out since last year. The spool is the same style as the regular Tatula that utilizes a spool shaft. It's not free floating. 


fishing user avatarFCPhil reply : 

Recently got the tatula CT...very impressed with how effortlessly it cast and pitches. Also drag seems very smooth and strong. 


fishing user avatarCrankFate reply : 
  On 1/13/2019 at 11:42 AM, iabass8 said:

It's been out since last year. The spool is the same style as the regular Tatula that utilizes a spool shaft. It's not free floating. 

Interesting. Is it in the same package as the 2018?

  On 1/13/2019 at 3:12 PM, FCPhil said:

Recently got the tatula CT...very impressed with how effortlessly it cast and pitches. Also drag seems very smooth and strong. 

I know. I love Carbontex, but this is one reel that didn’t need it.


fishing user avatarpunch reply : 

I'm smitten with the new Tatula 100 reels. I've ordered 3 already haha. They feel just right in my hands and in love the handles.  

 

For 90 bucks shipped these things seem like a no brainier. 


fishing user avatarCrankFate reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 1:17 AM, punch said:

I'm smitten with the new Tatula 100 reels. I've ordered 3 already haha. They feel just right in my hands and in love the handles.  

 

For 90 bucks shipped these things seem like a no brainier. 

Put two SmoothDrag ABEC 5 bearings on the worm and one ceramic BOCA Abec 5 on the gearshaft on top of the anti reverse bearing and for $25, this is probably one of the best reels ever produced. I think? I never even casted it yet. 


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 5:54 AM, CrankFate said:

Put two SmoothDrag ABEC 5 bearings on the worm and one ceramic BOCA Abec 5 on the gearshaft on top of the anti reverse bearing and for $25, this is probably one of the best reels ever produced. I think? I never even casted it yet. 

Not even close. It's a good casting reel, but what you did comes stock in their higher end reels except their drive shaft bearings are much higher quality than bocas ceramics.

 

Unless your upper drive shaft bearing was bad, spending extra money on a cermamic to put in its place is a useless waste of money..and this coming from a guy that spends a lot on aftermarket bearings and spools. That bearing does nothing except for on the retrieve. 


fishing user avatarCrankFate reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 6:43 AM, iabass8 said:

Not even close. It's a good casting reel, but what you did comes stock in their higher end reels except their drive shaft bearings are much higher quality than bocas ceramics.

 

Unless your upper drive shaft bearing was bad, spending extra money on a cermamic to put in its place is a useless waste of money..and this coming from a guy that spends a lot on aftermarket bearings and spools. That bearing does nothing except for on the retrieve. 

It makes a dramatic difference in what the reel feels like. It feels refined like a much more expensive reel. Expensive reels are mainly charging $250 for $80 worth of Abec 7 bearings, with minor spool and brake variations to justify the up charge (and if we’re lucky lighter weight or more durable plastic). 


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 8:31 AM, CrankFate said:

It makes a dramatic difference in what the reel feels like. It feels refined like a much more expensive reel. Expensive reels are mainly charging $250 for $80 worth of Abec 7 bearings, with minor spool and brake variations to justify the up charge (and if we’re lucky lighter weight or more durable plastic).

If you're reel made some dramatic difference in feel between this ceramic upper AR bearing vs stock, you had a bad stock bearing. 

 

 

As somebody that owns multiple of these high end reels, cleans, fixes, maintains, and buys parts for.... no, you aren't getting 80$ worth of bearings in there. And they aren't being upsold for 250$.


fishing user avatarCrankFate reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 8:34 AM, iabass8 said:

If you're reel made some dramatic difference in feel between this ceramic upper AR bearing vs stock, you had a bad stock bearing. 

 

 

As somebody that owns multiple of these high end reels, cleans, fixes, maintains, and buys parts for.... no, you aren't getting 80$ worth of bearings in there. And they aren't being upsold for 250$.

I don’t know. According to the comparison tests on YouTube, that’s The main difference. And from seeing all different reels, most are on similar platforms, with hardly any difference between one price class to the next. The differences are largely on paper.


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 

Again , as somebody that actually DOES know...as I own a lot of them, and repair/maintain mine and others, the difference in the reels isn't "80$ worth of bearings at a 250$ upgrade". 

 

Bearing's don't "turn a reel from a 100$ reel to a 300$ reel! for 40$!". Youtube hype is just that. Hype and nonsense.  Flushing and cleaning stock bearings is all that ever has to be done. If it doesn't improve it, the bearing was bad. Spool bearings, depending in the quality, are the only thing were casting distance is improved and it's usually due to the bearing being more consistent and fluid than a stock one. levelwind, pinion, drive shaft, and upper drive shaft bearings don't get used in the way spool bearings get used. The RPM that are used are so low, a high end bearing/high ABEC rating has zero effect. It ONLY has to be smooth and free of any rough spots. Your throwing money away spending that on an upper drive shaft bearing...and this is again coming from somebody that will spend 40$ on ZPI spool bearings when stocks are bad. 

 

The differences between reels as they go up, is largely spool and tolerance related. The price point is called "enthusiast" for a reason. The reels are(Since we're talking about Dawia, we'll compare a Tatula 100 to a Steez SV TW) much smoother, the tolerances are tighter/perfect, and the spools are better/lighter. Spool bearings aren't much different between each class. Lubrication might be due to quality control.  It isn't a different braking system as you're calling it. It's a different inductor and type of spool.  There seems to be this misnomer that you'll be making these unicorn casts with a 500$ reel over a 100$ reel. Casting is almost all user. Take the tatula 100 vs the Zillion SV. You aren't going to cast the zillion, all things equal, some magical 30 more unnecessary yards further. Higher end reels are bought for small nuances like perfect tolerances, upgraded handle materials, and spools to name a few things.  


fishing user avatarBigBass'n_Harrison reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 1:17 AM, punch said:

I'm smitten with the new Tatula 100 reels. I've ordered 3 already haha. They feel just right in my hands and in love the handles.  

 

For 90 bucks shipped these things seem like a no brainier. 

Any chance you'd remember where ya bought em? :happy-112:

  On 1/14/2019 at 9:12 AM, iabass8 said:

Again , as somebody that actually DOES know...as I own a lot of them, and repair/maintain mine and others, the difference in the reels isn't "80$ worth of bearings at a 250$ upgrade". 

 

Bearing's don't "turn a reel from a 100$ reel to a 300$ reel! for 40$!". Youtube hype is just that. Hype and nonsense.  Flushing and cleaning stock bearings is all that ever has to be done. If it doesn't improve it, the bearing was bad. Spool bearings, depending in the quality, are the only thing were casting distance is improved and it's usually due to the bearing being more consistent and fluid than a stock one. levelwind, pinion, drive shaft, and upper drive shaft bearings don't get used in the way spool bearings get used. The RPM that are used are so low, a high end bearing/high ABEC rating has zero effect. It ONLY has to be smooth and free of any rough spots. Your throwing money away spending that on an upper drive shaft bearing...and this is again coming from somebody that will spend 40$ on ZPI spool bearings when stocks are bad. 

 

The differences between reels as they go up, is largely spool and tolerance related. The price point is called "enthusiast" for a reason. The reels are(Since we're talking about Dawia, we'll compare a Tatula 100 to a Steez SV TW) much smoother, the tolerances are tighter/perfect, and the spools are better/lighter. Spool bearings aren't much different between each class. Lubrication might be due to quality control.  It isn't a different braking system as you're calling it. It's a different inductor and type of spool.  There seems to be this misnomer that you'll be making these unicorn casts with a 500$ reel over a 100$ reel. Casting is almost all user. Take the tatula 100 vs the Zillion SV. You aren't going to cast the zillion, all things equal, some magical 30 more unnecessary yards further. Higher end reels are bought for small nuances like perfect tolerances, upgraded handle materials, and spools to name a few things.  

I'm about to change the topic completely, but since you've used so many of these reels I think you might know.... do leaders pass through the T-Wing system okay? I don't think that I would ever even need a leader that is long enough to go onto the reel where I live, but just in case I'd like to know. 

 

Harrison


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 9:53 AM, BigBass'n_Harrison said:

Any chance you'd remember where ya bought em? :happy-112:

I'm about to change the topic completely, but since you've used so many of these reels I think you might know.... do leaders pass through the T-Wing system okay? I don't think that I would ever even need a leader that is long enough to go onto the reel where I live, but just in case I'd like to know. 

 

Harrison

I've listened to Seth Feider say he uses some specific knot that passes through it without issues. I've read others do, too. Personally, I don't use leaders so I don't know. Straight braid or straight fluoro. 


fishing user avatarpunch reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 9:12 AM, iabass8 said:

Again , as somebody that actually DOES know...as I own a lot of them, and repair/maintain mine and others, the difference in the reels isn't "80$ worth of bearings at a 250$ upgrade". 

 

Bearing's don't "turn a reel from a 100$ reel to a 300$ reel! for 40$!". Youtube hype is just that. Hype and nonsense.  Flushing and cleaning stock bearings is all that ever has to be done. If it doesn't improve it, the bearing was bad. Spool bearings, depending in the quality, are the only thing were casting distance is improved and it's usually due to the bearing being more consistent and fluid than a stock one. levelwind, pinion, drive shaft, and upper drive shaft bearings don't get used in the way spool bearings get used. The RPM that are used are so low, a high end bearing/high ABEC rating has zero effect. It ONLY has to be smooth and free of any rough spots. Your throwing money away spending that on an upper drive shaft bearing...and this is again coming from somebody that will spend 40$ on ZPI spool bearings when stocks are bad. 

 

The differences between reels as they go up, is largely spool and tolerance related. The price point is called "enthusiast" for a reason. The reels are(Since we're talking about Dawia, we'll compare a Tatula 100 to a Steez SV TW) much smoother, the tolerances are tighter/perfect, and the spools are better/lighter. Spool bearings aren't much different between each class. Lubrication might be due to quality control.  It isn't a different braking system as you're calling it. It's a different inductor and type of spool.  There seems to be this misnomer that you'll be making these unicorn casts with a 500$ reel over a 100$ reel. Casting is almost all user. Take the tatula 100 vs the Zillion SV. You aren't going to cast the zillion, all things equal, some magical 30 more unnecessary yards further. Higher end reels are bought for small nuances like perfect tolerances, upgraded handle materials, and spools to name a few things.  

This is a great post. 


fishing user avatarBigBass'n_Harrison reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 10:08 AM, iabass8 said:

I've listened to Seth Feider say he uses some specific knot that passes through it without issues. I've read others do, too. Personally, I don't use leaders so I don't know. Straight braid or straight fluoro. 

I would use straight fluoro, I just hate using it to be honest. Every fluoro I have used has been super hard to control and just really curly and a pain. What is your favorite fluoro to use? And do you use line conditioner? 


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 10:17 AM, BigBass'n_Harrison said:

I would use straight fluoro, I just hate using it to be honest. Every fluoro I have used has been super hard to control and just really curly and a pain. What is your favorite fluoro to use? And do you use line conditioner? 

Yes, I do use KVD line and lure from time to time. Usually I'll try to remember to spray it on after a trip or the night before. 

 

As far as favorite fluoros, I've settled on Shooter in 14-20 for anything bottom contact and sunline FC sniper/Sunline Reaction (now I think it's called fc crank) for most moving baits. I use 10# FC sniper for weightless and wacky senkos. Also use McCoy mean green for spinnerbaits and soft swimbaits. Cheap but it's some of the best handling/toughest stuff around. 


fishing user avatarBigBass'n_Harrison reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 10:26 AM, iabass8 said:

Yes, I do use KVD line and lure from time to time. Usually I'll try to remember to spray it on after a trip or the night before. 

 

As far as favorite fluoros, I've settled on Shooter in 14-20 for anything bottom contact and sunline FC sniper/Sunline Reaction (now I think it's called fc crank) for most moving baits. I use 10# FC sniper for weightless and wacky senkos. Also use McCoy mean green for spinnerbaits and soft swimbaits. Cheap but it's some of the best handling/toughest stuff around. 

Okay thanks for the info! 


fishing user avatarCrankFate reply : 
  On 1/14/2019 at 9:12 AM, iabass8 said:

Higher end reels are bought for small nuances like perfect tolerances, upgraded handle materials, and spools to name a few things.  

I know from seeing your posts, that you appreciate these nuances more than most people. I like them, too. And I always refer to the specs, like weight, spool size, handle size. But when I crack open a reel and see nearly the exact same reel, with a slightly different spool or spoolshaft and pinion or a bearing in place of a bushing or a bigger brake rotor—I curse the manufacturer for the big upcharge. I find that better bearings create the feel of “tighter tolerances.” I also believe that the big money is put into the engineering of the most popular reels that will see the most sales and this trickles up to the high end, where it is rebuilt on fancier or lighter materials. In the end, I am too cheap to be pleased by having to spend another $100 per nuance, when I can make an even lighter, better performing reel with aftermarket parts for the same price or less.

 

 


fishing user avatarJoshua van Wyk reply : 

Any opinions on the tatula spinning rods? I'm looking at picking one up as an all around finnese rod to go with a Tatula lt 2500 


fishing user avatarwaymont reply : 
  On 2/10/2019 at 11:12 AM, Joshua van Wyk said:

Any opinions on the tatula spinning rods? I'm looking at picking one up as an all around finnese rod to go with a Tatula lt 2500 

I have a 6'6" medium Tatula (new cork handle style) paired with a Tatula  LT 3000 and it's the lightest most balanced rig. It's great for tons of different applications. Check Ebay there's some for $98.00. fantastic rods.

  On 1/9/2019 at 8:49 AM, iabass8 said:

The new 100 is a nice reel. Stock bearings needed to be flushed and one of the 2 i have were a little dry in the gears but that was an easy fix. The store that outfits sportsmans ( i think you can figure out who that is) sells the new tatula for 99$ /w free shipping. 

I have a TTU Tatula 100 that is super smooth feeling and really nice but seems loud when reeling. Kind of like a gear on gear sound. It's smooth just a little noisy. You know what could cause that? Maybe something is screwy  in mine?

I also have a new Tatula 150 that is super smooth and quiet. Any ideas?


fishing user avatarBaitFinesse reply : 
  On 2/10/2019 at 11:30 AM, waymont said:

I have a 6'6" medium Tatula (new cork handle style) paired with a Tatula  LT 3000 and it's the lightest most balanced rig. It's great for tons of different applications. Check Ebay there's some for $98.00. fantastic rods.

I have a TTU Tatula 100 that is super smooth feeling and really nice but seems loud when reeling. Kind of like a gear on gear sound. It's smooth just a little noisy. You know what could cause that? Maybe something is screwy  in mine?

I also have a new Tatula 150 that is super smooth and quiet. Any ideas?

A little grease the gear set should quiet it back down.  The Tatula reels without the aluminum handle side plate can get a little noisy with use.  The 8:1 seems to do it more than other ratios.  Cals grease works great.


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 
  On 2/10/2019 at 11:30 AM, waymont said:

I have a 6'6" medium Tatula (new cork handle style) paired with a Tatula  LT 3000 and it's the lightest most balanced rig. It's great for tons of different applications. Check Ebay there's some for $98.00. fantastic rods.

I have a TTU Tatula 100 that is super smooth feeling and really nice but seems loud when reeling. Kind of like a gear on gear sound. It's smooth just a little noisy. You know what could cause that? Maybe something is screwy  in mine?

I also have a new Tatula 150 that is super smooth and quiet. Any ideas?

Probably a little dry from factory. Re grease the main and pinion


fishing user avatarBoogey Man reply : 
  On 2/10/2019 at 11:30 AM, waymont said:

I have a 6'6" medium Tatula (new cork handle style) paired with a Tatula  LT 3000 and it's the lightest most balanced rig. It's great for tons of different applications. Check Ebay there's some for $98.00. fantastic rods.

I have a TTU Tatula 100 that is super smooth feeling and really nice but seems loud when reeling. Kind of like a gear on gear sound. It's smooth just a little noisy. You know what could cause that? Maybe something is screwy  in mine?

I also have a new Tatula 150 that is super smooth and quiet. Any ideas?

I have a CT Type R, same deal as yours. I've cleaned and re lubed it, still noisy on a fast retrieve, but relatively quiet during a normal retrieve under load. 


fishing user avatarLionHeart reply : 

I had a new Tatula 7'6" med heavy rod for a short time.  Absolutely loved the rod but it had a fatal flaw for me.  It uses micro guides, which I didn't realize when I ordered it.

 

Actually took it fishing for a day.  Such a good rod, but I use braid to leader, so it was a no-go.


fishing user avatarpunch reply : 
  On 2/10/2019 at 11:12 AM, Joshua van Wyk said:

Any opinions on the tatula spinning rods? I'm looking at picking one up as an all around finnese rod to go with a Tatula lt 2500 

A local tackle shop has the new Tatula Spinning rods in and I have to say.. I was very impressed. The grip is very acceptable and the rods seem to have above-average balance. They didn't seem tip heavy at all. The fit & finish is typical Daiwa standards, which is always VERY good. These look like $140-160 rods. They don't look or feel cheap in any way. Seem worthy of the price, ascetically. 

 

I'm burying the lead though because what really impressed me about the rods was the soft tips. The new Tatula casting rods have VERY stiff actions. The tips are a little over powered and feel "broomsticky", which kinda reminds me of the previous gen tatula casting rods (I actually highly suggest going with Tatula Elite casting rods vs the Tatula casting rods because of this.) The elite casting rods have much much better action. I was worried this stiffness would be present in the spinning rods, but it's not. 

 

The spinning rods have accurate actions and have tips that I would appreciate for finesse fishing. Honestly they reminded me a lot of a Zodias, which is a very good thing. 

 

The tatula spinning 6'10 M and 7' M both felt like fantastic rods... I would use em. 

 

However these thoughts are just me bench-testing them in the store. 


fishing user avatarJoshua van Wyk reply : 
  On 2/11/2019 at 1:46 PM, punch said:

A local tackle shop has the new Tatula Spinning rods in and I have to say.. I was very impressed. The grip is very acceptable and the rods seem to have above-average balance. They didn't seem tip heavy at all. The fit & finish is typical Daiwa standards, which is always VERY good. These look like $140-160 rods. They don't look or feel cheap in any way. Seem worthy of the price, ascetically. 

 

I'm burying the lead though because what really impressed me about the rods was the soft tips. The new Tatula casting rods have VERY stiff actions. The tips are a little over powered and feel "broomsticky", which kinda reminds me of the previous gen tatula casting rods (I actually highly suggest going with Tatula Elite casting rods vs the Tatula casting rods because of this.) The elite casting rods have much much better action. I was worried this stiffness would be present in the spinning rods, but it's not. 

 

The spinning rods have accurate actions and have tips that I would appreciate for finesse fishing. Honestly they reminded me a lot of a Zodias, which is a very good thing. 

 

The tatula spinning 6'10 M and 7' M both felt like fantastic rods... I would use em. 

 

However these thoughts are just me bench-testing them in the store. 

Thanks for the analysis! Seriously considering one now. I noticed the medium models are rated 1/8-3/4 oz, is this accurate? It seems very heavy for what I'm looking for. And the medium light models are rated 1/8-3/8 which seems to light for what I'm looking for, as I want the rod to be able to throw ned rigs and drop shots but also have the power and backbone to fish wacky senkos and not need to worry. Am I making sense or just overthinking things?




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