Suffix advance 2024

Bill Kowalski reply :

Has a anyone tried out the new Sufix advance mono? I bought spool of 10 lbs to try on some finesse.

PhishLI reply :

On 4/27/2019 at 3:25 PM, Bill Kowalski said:

Has a anyone tried out the new Sufix advance mono? I bought spool of 10 lbs to try on some finesse.

I've had the 10lb spooled up on a Tat SV for the past few months. I haven't had any weird breakoffs. Stuck a few big one's too over that time. I have no complaints.

OnthePotomac reply :

I have the 14lb Advance on a Curado 200I and currently use for a jig and pig. Works well so far, but we are just getting into the season and spawn on the Potomac.

Oops, I had a brain hiccup, Not a jig and pig, but a swim jig and it works very well.

FryDog62 reply :

So... any reports if it is actually “lower stretch?”

Tlauz reply :

I just put it on three spinning reels, so hopefully, I like it.

FryDog62 reply :

On 4/28/2019 at 3:28 AM, Tlauz said:

I just put it on three spinning reels, so hopefully, I like it.

Please report your findings back, I’ve thought of picking some up too - but curious what others think...

dodgeguy reply :

works great on baitcast.cant vouch for spinning as i dont use spinning.really casts far and surface is really smooth.extremely sensitive for a mono line due to lower stretch.

Jelvas reply :

On 4/28/2019 at 3:08 AM, FryDog62 said:

So... any reports if it is actually “lower stretch?”

Yes, it does strech less than the average mono and i feel that it transmits vibration better making it better for bottom contact applications. It´s a very good line.

PhishLI reply :

On 4/28/2019 at 3:08 AM, FryDog62 said:

So... any reports if it is actually “lower stretch?”

I have 12lb Advance on a Chronarch CI4+ and 12lb Big Game on a Curado K. Both are on the same OB2 MHF 7' 1" rods. The Big Game feels quite a bit more stretchy to me when fighting a fish. It could be, partly, because the Curado is so smooth, nearly fluid coupled or belt driven, that I'm making this judgement? Regardless, I think it's reasonably sensitive line for what it is.

FryDog62 reply :

On 4/28/2019 at 4:33 AM, PhishLI said:

I have 12lb Advance on a Chronarch CI4+ and 12lb Big Game on a Curado K. Both are on the same OB2 MHF 7' 1" rods. The Big Game feels quite a bit more stretchy to me when fighting a fish. It could be, partly, because the Curado is so smooth, nearly fluid coupled or belt driven, that I'm making this judgement? Regardless, I think it's reasonably sensitive line for what it is.

Thanks, wondering if you have used Yo-Zuri Hybrid at all and if so how it might compare. Thx

rangerjockey reply :

I've been using the 10lb. In green on one of my jerkbait rods this spring.

Good stuff, casts well ,ties a good knot . Hard to measure stretch but it doesn't seem excessive. I'm going to get some in 6 for the ned rig rod.

Steveo-1969 reply :

I've been using 10# Sufix Advanced on a baitcasting rod for the past 3 weeks and really like it so far. I use this rod for bottom contact presentations in a shallow rocky river and have 2 needs for this: sensitive and abrasion-resistant.

I was surprised to find this line as sensitive as any fluorocarbon I've used on this rod! Every mono I've tried has been lacking in sensitivity. I also think it stretches less than any 10# mono or fluoro I've used. I've been bank fishing, and my "not so scientific" data shows when I get snagged and have to break off, I can do it without backing up. I always have to back up with mono and fluoro to stretch the line enough to break it.

PhishLI reply :

On 4/28/2019 at 7:53 AM, FryDog62 said:

Thanks, wondering if you have used Yo-Zuri Hybrid at all and if so how it might compare. Thx

I haven't.

jimmyjoe reply :

Got some 14 lb. this AM, fished with it for 2-3 hours. It's fairly stiff line, with the hard sheen everyone describes. Knots are not easy, at least not for me. Once made and checked, however, they hold well. Casting distance is a little better than Big Game 12 lb., which is the same diameter. Not much, though. I was using a 7'1" MH/F Mojo Bass rod, and a Curado 200i. Sensitivity was nothing to write home about, but it never is with non-braid lines. So not great, and not lousy.

This line seems so .... middle of the road. The only thing it might have going for it is that hard sheen, which might indicate abrasion resistance. Where I fished, I couldn't check that.

I'll fish with it a few more days and see how well I like it. For now, however, it's not better overall than Big Game, just different. jj

Lendiesel22 reply :

It is performing well for me. Buy it by diameter not break rating. Pulled 2 Potomac 5lbers wrapped around dock pilings with 0 damage.

diehardbassfishing reply :

Tried 14 lb. on two baitcasters. Took it off almost as fast as I put it on. Way to stiff, and the memory coils made it impossible to fish lightly weighted soft plastics. And the claim of "X" percent less stretch claim is bogus - from good reviewer and experience. Baaah.

Karl

jimmyjoe reply :

Fished it 5 days now. Basically, everything I said before applies; it's hard, fairly stiff and is similar to most of your average mono lines in other respects. I simply wanted to test abrasion resistance. From what I can see, it's reasonably resistant. Better than Big Game, that's for sure. Big Game had 2 nicks, forcing me to retie. Advance had none.

One other thing I noticed about this line. It seems to "fish in". In other words, the stiffness lessens with use. And the memory . which is obvious when you start the day, drops out quicker and quicker each day. Maybe temperature had something to do with it, I don't know. But I like it better now than 5 days ago.

I've been casting 1/2 to 1 oz. lures. If you go lighter, YMMV. A lot. I don't personally see this as a line for light lures. jj

johnmyers reply :

I put 8lb green on a Stradic FK 2500 and used Saturday. It casts pretty good but coiled pretty bad and I thought it had quite a bit of stretch. I have been using Smackdown with a leader so that's a hard comparison, but I will use it more to see if I like it any better.

NYWayfarer reply :

On 5/3/2019 at 10:09 PM, jimmyjoe said:

   Fished it 5 days now. Basically, everything I said before applies; it's hard, fairly stiff and is similar to most of your average mono lines in other respects. I simply wanted to test abrasion resistance. From what I can see, it's reasonably resistant. Better than Big Game, that's for sure. Big Game had 2 nicks, forcing me to retie. Advance had none.

   One other thing I noticed about this line. It seems to "fish in". In other words, the stiffness lessens with use. And the memory . which is obvious when you start the day, drops out quicker and quicker each day. Maybe temperature had something to do with it, I don't know. But I like it better now than 5 days ago.

   I've been casting 1/2 to 1 oz. lures. If you go lighter, YMMV. A lot. I don't personally see this as a line for light lures. jj

I might have to pick some up.

I have been using Sufix Siege and Sufix ProMix and both lines have exceeded my expectations. They perform well above their price range.

dodgeguy reply :

Used it last night.pulled in a huge floating section of a tree. Line definitely has far less stretch than mono or flouro. Is also very sensitive and abrasion resistant. I agree it casts better as you use it. It's a great line.

johnmyers reply :

On 5/3/2019 at 10:33 PM, johnmyers said:

I put 8lb green on a Stradic FK 2500 and used Saturday. It casts pretty good but coiled pretty bad and I thought it had quite a bit of stretch. I have been using Smackdown with a leader so that's a hard comparison, but I will use it more to see if I like it any better.

Used again today on pond. Didn’t coil as bad seems like pretty good line but not near as good casting distance as 20 lb Smackdown

Vilas15 reply :

On 5/3/2019 at 11:37 PM, NYWayfarer said:

I might have to pick some up.

I have been using Sufix Siege and Sufix ProMix and both lines have exceeded my expectations. They perform well above their price range.

So far I don't see any reasons to try it out over Siege which has become my favorite. I'm keeping an eye on this thread, however.

I'm Blue reply :

Ive been using it, just because had to buy something. Its fishing line... havent felt anything hit it yet so no idea,,, seems a bit stiff.
So far still liking my 20 YO Pline original.

Hulkster reply :

On 5/4/2019 at 10:40 AM, Vilas15 said:

So far I don't see any reasons to try it out over Siege which has become my favorite. I'm keeping an eye on this thread, however.

I'm the same. I love Siege its awesome, but I'm watching this thread too.

Log Catcher reply :

I was going to try this but it is more expensive than Sufix Siege. Siege has been an excellent line for me. I don't want to spend more for something I may or nay not like.

johnD. reply :

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Sufix Siege works very well , good enough to where I'm not looking for "other" sufix lines.

dodgeguy reply :

On 5/5/2019 at 12:44 AM, Log Catcher said:

I was going to try this but it is more expensive than Sufix Siege. Siege has been an excellent line for me. I don't want to spend more for something I may or nay not like.

$2 is to much ? Siege is great line. I would say this line is more abrasion resistant and far more sensitive due to less stretch.For $2 I'd try it.

Log Catcher reply :

On 5/5/2019 at 11:12 PM, dodgeguy said:

$2 is to much ? Siege is great line. I would say this line is more abrasion resistant and far more sensitive due to less stretch.For $2 I'd try it.

The places I have checked it is $4 to $5 more. I can buy a good florocarbon line for the same price.

dodgeguy reply :

On 5/6/2019 at 1:24 AM, Log Catcher said:

The places I have checked it is $4 to $5 more. I can buy a good florocarbon line for the same price.

At Bass pro shops the difference between 10 lb siege and advance in 330 yd spools is $2.50. imho advance overall is superior to flourocarbon. Far better handling and casting.i also think it has less stretch by far and is more sensitive.

Log Catcher reply :

On 5/6/2019 at 1:50 AM, dodgeguy said:

At Bass pro shops the difference between 10 lb siege and advance in 330 yd spools is $2.50. imho advance overall is superior to flourocarbon. Far better handling and casting.i also think it has less stretch by far and is more sensitive.

I quit buying line from BPS a long time ago because they had gotten so much more expensive than what I can get it for in other places. While the floro I use is a smaller spool I have had very good luck with it. Since I don't fish tournaments I don't need the most expensive line out there.

jimmyjoe reply :

On 5/6/2019 at 1:24 AM, Log Catcher said:

I can buy a good florocarbon line for the same price.

There is such a thing? ???? jj

rangerjockey reply :

What flouro are you buying for $10.59 for 300 plus yards ?

Log Catcher reply :

On 5/6/2019 at 2:14 AM, jimmyjoe said:

There is such a thing? ???? jj

I have had very good luck with Sunline Super Fluorocarbon For $14.99 for 200 yard spools. One of the guys at our local tackle shop recommended it to me. I see no reason to spend a lot more for the high dollar lines when I like what I am using now. Just like anything else everybody has there own opinion.

TBAG reply :

On 4/28/2019 at 3:28 AM, Tlauz said:

I just put it on three spinning reels, so hopefully, I like it.

What lb test and how are you liking it?

jimmyjoe reply :

On 5/6/2019 at 7:47 AM, Log Catcher said:

I have had very good luck with Sunline Super Fluorocarbon

That's one I haven't used or seen used. If you don't mind, could I ask you some questions about it?

1) what lb. test?

2) Have you pulled it past its elastic threshold?

3) How's the knot integrity? Which knots do you use?

4) Casting or spinning reel?

5) How's line twist?

I've used Vanish (horrible all 'round), FC Sniper (wiry, difficult knots) and one named "invisiline", or something like that. ,All of them, plus every FC line my fishing buddies have used, are hard to cast, hard to manage and hard to tie a good durable knot. It's worst on spinning gear. On casting gear, I had to increase the cast control and shorten my distance to control fluff and backlash.

I got disgusted and went back to mono (and braid) 2 or 3 years ago.

Have they improved FC lines since then? jj

Tlauz reply :

On 5/6/2019 at 8:32 AM, TBAG said:

What lb test and how are you liking it?

Opener up here is not until May, 11th. I probably won't get out until the 18th. I will report as soon as I get out!

rangerjockey reply :

Honestly, If someone can't make Sniper work they probably should stay away from flouro.

Hulkster reply :

I went fishing yesterday with Sufix Siege 8 pound on my stradic 3000 and 12 pound on my curado baitcasting rod and it was amazing on both, great casting especially.

However I didnt catch anything.

Im curious how the memory would compare to Siege, but I can't find it locally in my area. Siege has a bit of memory at first but after a few casts it really loosens up and casts like a rocket.

I would imagine Advanced is the same??

Log Catcher reply :

On 5/6/2019 at 9:08 AM, jimmyjoe said:

   That's one I haven't used or seen used. If you don't mind, could I ask you some questions about it?

   1) what lb. test?

   2) Have you pulled it past its elastic threshold?

   3) How's the knot integrity? Which knots do you use?

   4) Casting or spinning reel?

   5) How's line twist?

   I've used Vanish (horrible all 'round), FC Sniper (wiry, difficult knots) and one named "invisiline", or something like that. ,All of them, plus every FC line my fishing buddies have used, are hard to cast, hard to manage and hard to tie a good durable knot. It's worst on spinning gear. On casting gear, I had to increase the cast control and shorten my distance to control fluff and backlash.

   I got disgusted and went back to mono (and braid) 2 or 3 years ago.

   Have they improved FC lines since then?        jj

I am using this in 12# test. I only use it on baitcasters. I would not recommend it for a spinning reel. I use a San Diego jam knot most of the time and have not had any problems with it. I'm not sure what you mean by the elastic threshold. I have pulled it to break off soft plastics when they get hung up and maybe cut some more off. One of the owners of our local tackle shop recommended it to me. He does fish a lot of tournaments and says he likes it for flipping and pitching in to heavy cover. I only use it for soft plastics and jigs.

jimmyjoe reply :

On 5/7/2019 at 7:33 AM, Log Catcher said:

. I'm not sure what you mean by the elastic threshold.

If you stretch fluorocarbon a little bit, it returns to its original state. This is called elastic behavior. Kinda like the elastic in clothing. But once it has become stretched to a certain degree, it no longer returns to the original state. That "point of no return" is called the elastic threshold. Behavior beyond the elastic threshold is called "plastic" behavior.

In the lines I tried, the elastic threshold was fairly low .... at least to my wants and desires. To say that it irritated me is a huge understatement. And I was comparing it to Big Game, which has an enormous elasticism. That might have been part of the problem, IDK.

It was also noisy going through the guides, which I didn't like.

I might try it again some day, or I might not. Haven't decided. The only real reason I tried it in the first place was because it sank, and in certain applications I thought that might be a big advantage. jj

Vilas15 reply :

On 5/7/2019 at 9:16 AM, jimmyjoe said:

   If you stretch fluorocarbon a little bit, it returns to its original state. This is called elastic behavior. Kinda like the elastic in clothing. But once it has become stretched to a certain degree, it no longer returns to the original state. That "point of no return" is called the elastic threshold. Behavior beyond the elastic threshold is called "plastic" behavior.

   In the lines I tried, the elastic threshold was fairly low .... at least to my wants and desires. To say that it irritated me is a huge understatement. And I was comparing it to Big Game, which has an enormous elasticism. That might have been part of the problem, IDK.

   It was also noisy going through the guides, which I didn't like.

   I might try it again some day, or I might not. Haven't decided. The only real reason I tried it in the first place was because it sank, and in certain applications I thought that might be a big advantage.     jj

That why I considered trying some fluorocarbon but didn't end up making the switch from Siege. When I pull on a snag I don't want to have to cut off a full cast's length of line because it was weakened when I pulled it.

dodgeguy reply :

I pulled in a tree with advance and never oassedany elastic threshold or line getting weaker. I have had flourocarbon do that.

jimmyjoe reply :

On 5/7/2019 at 6:56 PM, dodgeguy said:

I pulled in a tree with advance and never oassedany elastic threshold or line getting weaker. I have had flourocarbon do that.

How's your knot strength with Advance? Yesterday I caught a branch and my 14 lb. broke sooner than I thought it should have, and it broke right at the knot, which I don't like. The new Trilene XL does that, which is why I was looking around for a new line to use. (Some lines don't want to make a real tight bend, such as the turn or double turn around the hook eye. Forcing it weakens them.) This is the first time I got the opportunity to test Advance this way, so I'm not drawing any conclusions yet. But I'm watching it real close. Knot strength is important to me. jj

Hulkster reply :

what knot were you using with the advanced?

If it is slick like Siege, i had problems with an improved clinch knot slipping and breaking with Siege.

Once I used the palomar knot, i straightened the hook on a #3 mepps spinner getting my lure back from a snag with only 6 pound test.

made a believer out of me. with the right knot Siege is STRONG.

dodgeguy reply :

On 5/7/2019 at 7:58 PM, jimmyjoe said:

How's your knot strength with Advance? Yesterday I caught a branch and my 14 lb. broke sooner than I thought it should have, and it broke right at the knot, which I don't like. The new Trilene XL does that, which is why I was looking around for a new line to use. (Some lines don't want to make a real tight bend, such as the turn or double turn around the hook eye. Forcing it weakens them.) This is the first time I got the opportunity to test Advance this way, so I'm not drawing any conclusions yet. But I'm watching it real close. Knot strength is important to me. jj

I use a Palomar knot and wet it with spit. I'm very meticulous tying knots. This was a big tree on 14 lb test. I just pulled steady because I'm not into breaking rods. My falcon had a serious bend pulling it in. I was fishing from shore so I couldn't float over and get it.

Hulkster reply :

wow. i know 14 pound Siege is tough to break, possibly the Advanced has a lower knot/tensile strength, but it is likely more supple, and of course we know it will be more sensitive due to the reduction in stretch.

Siege is very strong line but i would say it is stretchy. it really stretches before it actually breaks, and it sounds like a gunshot when it does.

FryDog62 reply :

I posted a line stretch test here a couple years ago... tested several mono, fluorocarbon and co-poly lines. Tested lines dry and after being soaked in water for 24 hours.

Net result was that most fluorocarbon lines stretched more than mono when dry, but after soaking all lines in water, the mono ended up stretching about as much as most of the fluorocarbons.

The line with the least overall stretch was Yo-Zuri Hybrid - it’s marketed as UV and waterproof and didn’t stretch much different after soaking. It stretched less than the other lines either wet or dry.

Since Advance is marketed as “Made from HMPE and hyper co-polymer materials, the Sufix Advanced Monofilament Line Clear offers 50% less stretch and UV absorption than standard monofilament” I’ve thought about buying some, soaking overnight and doing a stretch comparison with YZH.

We’ll see...

I'm Blue reply :

On 5/8/2019 at 2:40 AM, FryDog62 said:

I posted a line stretch test here a couple years ago... tested several mono, fluorocarbon and co-poly lines. Tested lines dry and after being soaked in water for 24 hours.

Net result was that most fluorocarbon lines stretched more than mono when dry, but after soaking all lines in water, the mono ended up stretching about as much as most of the fluorocarbons.

The line with the least overall stretch was Yo-Zuri Hybrid - it’s marketed as UV and waterproof and didn’t stretch much different after soaking. It stretched less than the other lines either wet or dry.

Since Advance is marketed as “Made from HMPE and hyper co-polymer materials, the Sufix Advanced Monofilament Line Clear offers 50% less stretch and UV absorption than standard monofilament” I’ve thought about buying some, soaking overnight and doing a stretch comparison with YZH.

We’ll see...

PM me a mailling address and i'll send you some , ive got *** suffix advance I just bought got some left on the spool too short to do much with can send u a few yards

FryDog62 reply :

On 5/8/2019 at 5:30 AM, I'm Blue said:

PM me a mailling address and i'll send you some , ive got *** suffix advance I just bought got some left on the spool too short to do much with can send u a few yards

What pound test... would need approx 14-15 feet of line..

Smelter96 reply :

I'll be putting it through its paces this year. Got 10lb, 14lb, and 17lb spooled up ready to go.

I'm Blue reply :

have 12 and 14lb

Tlauz reply :

It has been a long time, but here is my report. I put 10 lb on 3 spinning reels. So far I have only used it fishing weightless wacky worms. I really like it. It casts well and it seems to stretch less than regular mono. I would buy it again.

freelancer27 reply :

I have been using the 8 pound for poppers and the 12 for lipless cranks. Decent line. So far: little memory and it holds up fairly well. Would recommend it.

Smelter96 reply :

I have 17lb on a spinnerbait rod and it's working like a charm so far. I've caught a couple bonus muskies and pike on it so it's pretty tough

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