hey guys! basically im 14 and cant currently get a job but im in love with fishing and ive been for about 6 years. I've mainly always had lightning rods and other "High Class Wally World" poles. My birthday is coming up in about a month and wil most definately spend ALL OF IT on fishing. probably around $200 all together. But what i want to know is, should i get 2 Mid priced poles (ie: mojo bass, carbonlite, falcon lowrider ) or should i just get one really nice pole. ( Please give me some suggestions. I want baitcasters because i cant stand spinning reels. Can you guys help me out?
Also maybe some reel suggestions to go with it ?
If that were me I'd buy one nicer high end rod in the $150 value.Then spend the rest on some baits,line and terminal tackle.
If i may, I'd take a look at the Powell max rod or the Dobyn savvy series.
I'm currently saving up for a dobyn myself.
There are quite a few very good quality rods out there these days in the $140 to $160 range at new retail prices. I'd suggest that you watch the flea market and buy a nice used Powell 683CEF or maybe a Shimano Crucial 7'MH - both very nice all purpose sticks. You can find them from time to time for around $110 to $120. Take the other $80 or $90 and look for a nice used Citica 200E. For around $200 you'll have an outstanding combo that will last for a long time with proper care!
QuoteThere are quite a few very good quality rods out there these days in the $140 to $160 range at new retail prices. I'd suggest that you watch the flea market and buy a nice used Powell 683CEF or maybe a Shimano Crucial 7'MH - both very nice all purpose sticks. You can find them from time to time for around $110 to $120. Take the other $80 or $90 and look for a nice used Citica 200E. For around $200 you'll have an outstanding combo that will last for a long time with proper care!
Excellent advice!
8-)
What kind of fishing do you do? Are you a boat fisherman where multiple poles with multiple lures can come in very handy, or do you primarily bank fish where you carry a single pole?
Do you fish several different lakes/rivers with different structure driving the need for heavier or lighter poles?
These questions are the primary drivers in the number of poles you need/want.
I mainly do alot of shore fishing but when i do i bring a plethora of poles ( usually one pole i'll use for two techniques.) BUT i also go out on the boat alot. I usually shore fish on lakes because rivers are hard to find in my area. i have about 6 lightning rods; but im looking to step them up little by little.
The places i fish varie from VERY VERY weedy, to completely scraped clean, to tree stumps every where. so i prefer to steadily gain technique specific poles! ;D
Buying used gear is a great way to save a few bucks, but it's also a way to pick up someone elses junk. Caveat Emptor applies
The Shimano Clarus ($80) - Compre($100) - Crucial($150) rods are very good for their price, and carry a no-BS warranty. That helps a young fella stay on the water if something should happen to the rod.
New Shimano Citica's can be had on ebay for $100
A 6'6" or 7" Medium Heavy/fast action Compre rod with a Citica would put you right at the $200 mark, and be a great all-around baitcast rig
This is something to consider as you build your
collection over time:
Here ya go:
Maybe this will help:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1141187546
Specifically:
Technique specific rods are for "enthusiasts".
Almost all your fishing can be done with just
one rod. Beyond that, you only "need" three rods:
Spinning: 6 1/2' or 7', M or MH, Fast Action
(soft plastics and light lures)
Baitcasting: MH or H, Fast Action
(jigs, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and all single hooks)
Baitcasting: MH, Moderate Action
(all treble hook lures)
QuoteThere are quite a few very good quality rods out there these days in the $140 to $160 range at new retail prices. I'd suggest that you watch the flea market and buy a nice used Powell 683CEF or maybe a Shimano Crucial 7'MH - both very nice all purpose sticks. You can find them from time to time for around $110 to $120. Take the other $80 or $90 and look for a nice used Citica 200E. For around $200 you'll have an outstanding combo that will last for a long time with proper care!
i just loked at the crucial and citica. im a little concerned with the citica, mainly because of the price for only 4 bearing? are they extremely high quality German bearings or something?
QuoteThis is something to consider as you build yourcollection over time:
Here ya go:
Maybe this will help:
Specifically:
Technique specific rods are for "enthusiasts".
Almost all your fishing can be done with just
one rod. Beyond that, you only "need" three rods:
Spinning: 6 1/2' or 7', M or MH, Fast Action
(soft plastics and light lures)
Baitcasting: MH or H, Fast Action
(jigs, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and all single hooks)
Baitcasting: MH, Moderate Action
(all treble hook lures)
thanks for the advice!! but the reason i prefer alot of rods for alot of techniques is because i hate tying on new rigs! i would much rather prefer just picking up a different rod and casting rather than fumbling around with a new lure.
Quotei just loked at the crucial and citica. im a little concerned with the citica, mainly because of the price for only 4 bearing? are they extremely high quality German bearings or something?
Bearing count is not an indication of overall quality in a fishing reel. It's more of a marketing technique. Some reel utilize 4 bearings in the knobs (2 in each) That gets the bearing count up there!
Bearings are also available in different levels of quality.
The Citica is a proven reel design which has a great following. Shimano also provides excellent customer support. Plus, all the Cool Dudes fish Shimano gear ;D
powell 6'8 mh with an abu garcia orra sx
QuotePlus, all the Cool Dudes fish Shimano gear ;D
True.
So if you had to choose one pole between : St.Croix Avid, Shimano Crucial, Dobyns Saavy, Powell Max, Shimano Compre, And the St.Croix Mojo bass what would it be?.. keep in mind i LOVE lifetime warranties and Fuji furnishings!
QuoteSo if you had to choose one pole between : St.Croix Avid, Shimano Crucial, Dobyns Saavy, Powell Max, Shimano Compre, And the St.Croix Mojo bass.. keep in mind i LOVE lifetime warranties and Fuji furnishings!
Out of that line-up, there are two different price groups
Avid, Crucial, Saavy and Max rods are all around the same price point with Avid's at around $180 to the Powell's around $140. The Mojo's and Compre's are a step down from that group.
Out of the "Big 4" you really can't go wrong with any of them. It really comes down to what your preference is.
Me, I'd pick an Avid 8-)
QuoteSo if you had to choose one pole between : St.Croix Avid, Shimano Crucial, Dobyns Saavy, Powell Max, Shimano Compre, And the St.Croix Mojo bass what would it be?.. keep in mind i LOVE lifetime warranties and Fuji furnishings!
I own both a mojo bass and an Avid.....clear advantage to the Avid for sensitivity, but you are then back to the same question...do you want multiple poles or one good setup?
From your earlier reply on how you fish (and the fact that you already have multiple setups) I would suggest buying one "nice" setup. You are going to upgrade eventually (I promise) and the less poles to upgrade the lower overall cost long term.
QuoteQuotePlus, all the Cool Dudes fish Shimano gear ;DTrue.
Too funny...So true.
;D ;D ;D
Quotehey guys! basically im 14 and cant currently get a job but im in love with fishing and ive been for about 6 years. I've mainly always had lightning rods and other "High Class Wally World" poles. My birthday is coming up in about a month and wil most definately spend ALL OF IT on fishing. probably around $200 all together. But what i want to know is, should i get 2 Mid priced poles (ie: mojo bass, carbonlite, falcon lowrider ) or should i just get one really nice pole. ( Please give me some suggestions. I want baitcasters because i cant stand spinning reels. Can you guys help me out?Also maybe some reel suggestions to go with it ?
im 15 and have no job i buy ill my tackle on a $20 weekly allowance maybe a little more sometimes so im in the same boat i owuld get 2-3 mid range rods you get some good ones for around $100 one is the lamiglas excel which im gonna order pretty soon probly tomorrow for $110 i have heard they are good rods
Quoteim 15 and have no job i buy ill my tackle on a $20 weekly allowance
And from this day forth, you shall be known to all as SenkoBOY12
QuoteQuoteim 15 and have no job i buy all my tackle on a $20 weekly allowance
And from this day forth, you shall be known to all as SenkoBOY12
and i could still probably outfish you
QuoteQuoteQuoteim 15 and have no job i buy all my tackle on a $20 weekly allowance
And from this day forth, you shall be known to all as SenkoBOY12
and i could still probably outfish you
Easy there, just havin' some fun
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteim 15 and have no job i buy all my tackle on a $20 weekly allowance
And from this day forth, you shall be known to all as SenkoBOY12
and i could still probably outfish you
Easy there, just havin' some fun
i know what you meant i know you were just kidding thats how i mess around most of the guys are i fish with are like that too im sure your a great a fisherman
I would recomend Falcon Originals.
-gk
QuoteQuotehey guys! basically im 14 and cant currently get a job but im in love with fishing and ive been for about 6 years. I've mainly always had lightning rods and other "High Class Wally World" poles. My birthday is coming up in about a month and wil most definately spend ALL OF IT on fishing. probably around $200 all together. But what i want to know is, should i get 2 Mid priced poles (ie: mojo bass, carbonlite, falcon lowrider ) or should i just get one really nice pole. ( Please give me some suggestions. I want baitcasters because i cant stand spinning reels. Can you guys help me out?Also maybe some reel suggestions to go with it ?
im 15 and have no job i buy ill my tackle on a $20 weekly allowance maybe a little more sometimes so im in the same boat i owuld get 2-3 mid range rods you get some good ones for around $100 one is the lamiglas excel which im gonna order pretty soon probly tomorrow for $110 i have heard they are good rods
ha i wish i got an allowance
QuoteQuoteQuotehey guys! basically im 14 and cant currently get a job but im in love with fishing and ive been for about 6 years. I've mainly always had lightning rods and other "High Class Wally World" poles. My birthday is coming up in about a month and wil most definately spend ALL OF IT on fishing. probably around $200 all together. But what i want to know is, should i get 2 Mid priced poles (ie: mojo bass, carbonlite, falcon lowrider ) or should i just get one really nice pole. ( Please give me some suggestions. I want baitcasters because i cant stand spinning reels. Can you guys help me out?Also maybe some reel suggestions to go with it ?
im 15 and have no job i buy ill my tackle on a $20 weekly allowance maybe a little more sometimes so im in the same boat i owuld get 2-3 mid range rods you get some good ones for around $100 one is the lamiglas excel which im gonna order pretty soon probly tomorrow for $110 i have heard they are good rods
ha i wish i got an allowance
its not enough to fund my hunting and fishing
i would get falcon or powell
already have spinning rods for your fishing? if so get the higher end baitcaster if not get mid priced spinning and baitcaster
i shore fish so i carry 2 rods a spinning G.loomis imx fast action for all my bass fishing lures and sometimes panfish lures and my G.loomis GLX baitcaster for my bigger bass lures, topwater frogs, or the same lures i would use on the spinning rod but use on the baitcaster if im fishing heavy cover and need the extra power or just to get the extra power!
you already have other set ups so get the nicest you can afford.
buy something to use with jigs and plastics. id go with an avid.
The truth is that you can't buy fishing success. Expensive rods are fun but you can still get quality rods for $80-$100. Compres and mojos are great rods, made by great companies and they won't let you down. Bass don't care how much your rod costs. You are better off spending time on learning techniecs than spending time worrying about how much money you will spend on a rod. Since you are on a budget and don't have a constant supply of money save up buy some decent lures and practice, after all the lure is what the bass wants. There will be plenty of time to buy expensive rods and reels in the future. You have to remember that companies are always coming out with the latest and greatest, and as soon as they do that will be what you want. Get a good rod then get some expierence.
Don't overlook the Falcon Bucoo rods, just picked one of them up and I am very impressed with it. I have a Citica 200e on it, nicely balanced, light and sensitive. They sell for $100 or $110 depending on length.
Here is a list of Quality Reels & Rods @ a reasonable price
http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1246369553/
Thanks for your opinions and suggestions guys! that was my first post and i feel so welcomed!
But i think i've got it narrowed down to the st.croix rods, mainly because bass pro doesn't carry Powells or Dobyns (and im paranoyed about ordering online, i only buy in store)
i could probably get :
~2-3 Triumphs
~1 mojo (which ive noticed doesn't have cork in front of the reel seat)
~1 Premier
~ or JUST ENOUGH for 1 Avid. which looks really nice..
Are there day and night differences between the poles? What is there build quality depending on where there manufactured? have you had problems with a certain one? Please tell me your opinion!!! thanx!
I have a Triumph and a Premier hanging on the rack next to each other, and don't see a nickel's worth of difference between the two.
Now, between the Premier/Mojo/Triumph and the Avid? World of difference. The Avid just blows them away.
QuoteI have a Triumph and a Premier hanging on the rack next to each other, and don't see a nickel's worth of difference between the two.Now, between the Premier/Mojo/Triumph and the Avid? World of difference. The Avid just blows them away.
so it would be in my best interest to get 2-3 triumphs instead of 1 premier?
That decision would be entirely up to you. They're built on the same blank, so there shouldn't be a sensitivity difference between the two. The main difference between them is country of origin. The Premier is built here while the Triumph is built in SC's plant in Mexico.
I'd suggest making the trek to your local BPS and giving each rod a closer look. Compare them side-by-side and see if you notice any differences in build quality between the two.
If you're in the Atlanta area you're more than welcome to try out the Triumph I keep in my truck, as long as it's ok with your folks.
Quote. The main difference between them is country of origin. The Premier is built here while the Triumph is built in SC's plant in Mexico.If you're in the Atlanta area you're more than welcome to try out the Triumph I keep in my truck, as long as it's ok with your folks.
I thought Triumphs were made for st.croix, rather than made by st.croix in china. And mojo's were Mexican, and Premiers American. but who knows i could be wrong!
And thanks for the offer!! but i live in Virginia... so ya. haha
QuoteI thought Triumphs were made for st.croix, rather than made by st.croix in china. And mojo's were Mexican, and Premiers American. but who knows i could be wrong!
And thanks for the offer!! but i live in Virginia... so ya. haha
The Triumph used to be built in China, but they're now built in SC's new facility in Fresnillo, Mexico along with the Mojo and some of their fly rods.
QuoteST. CROIX VALUE. KEEPING IT ALIVE IN NORTH AMERICA.Of course, there are only so many hands in Park Falls, Wisconsin and over the years, the undeniable value of St. Croix rods has meant more and more people have wanted to fish one. Which means every year, more and more rods leave Park Falls for waters throughout the world. Well, it's gotten to the point where we simply can't make enough in our Park Falls factory. It's a small town. (And we'd like to keep it that way.) Faced with a decision of opening another factory or outsourcing to Asia, we concluded the only way to insure a St. Croix rod remains a St. Croix rod was to construct a second factory in Fresnillo, Mexico. If you happen to be traveling through Fresnillo, you'll find an almost mirror facility to our state-of-the-art Park Falls operation same equipment, same manufacturing procedures and the very same quality control protocols. Our Fresnillo facility manufactures a select group of rods that are designed and engineered here in Park Falls. These rods offer the chance for an even greater segment of the fishing population to get their hands on a St. Croix. Rod models currently manufactured in Park Falls will continue to be made in Park Falls. By making sure all our rods are Handcrafted in North America, we are able to continue providing anglers with the best value in angling.
thanks for the info! i'm much more keen on buying a rod made in mexico compared to China. QC is SO much higher!
Just buy the Avid already...
A 6'6" MH Avid will do everything you want it to do.
Learn to tie knots quickly.
Don't get hung up on being the guy with the most toys.
Well, looky there...
http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1276871748
QuoteJust buy the Avid already...A 6'6" MH Avid will do everything you want it to do.
Learn to tie knots quickly.
Don't get hung up on being the guy with the most toys.
I just want to think long and hard about it, not jump on an impulse decision on my birthday. thats why i put up this thread so early, so i can absorb all the info i can!
QuoteWell, looky there...http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1276871748
No brainer...Jump on this before they are gone!
8-)
You won't regret purchasing an Avid.
If the 6'6" rod SPEEDBEAD linked to was a spinning rod, it would already be on its way to my house.
QuoteWell, looky there...http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1276871748
Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think "someone" just bought those Avids
Quoteso it would be in my best interest to get 2-3 triumphs instead of 1 premier?
Just curious, what reels are you using?
QuoteQuoteso it would be in my best interest to get 2-3 triumphs instead of 1 premier?
Just curious, what reels are you using?
a cheap pos reel does not look good on an expensive rod
QuoteQuoteQuoteso it would be in my best interest to get 2-3 triumphs instead of 1 premier?
Just curious, what reels are you using?
a cheap pos reel does not look good on an expensive rod
my uncle said if i want he has 2 PQ's he doesn't use because he hates baitcasters. (they were his first ). but ya i love his PQ's ;D
QuoteI think "someone" just bought those Avids
Awhhh :'( was it you? i figured they would be sold before i could get any moneyy.. i sent him a PM asking him maybe to reserve them for me.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteso it would be in my best interest to get 2-3 triumphs instead of 1 premier?
Just curious, what reels are you using?
a cheap pos reel does not look good on an expensive rod
my uncle said if i want he has 2 PQ's he doesn't use because he hates baitcasters. (they were his first ). but ya i love his PQ's ;D
PQ are awesome reels thats all pro Edwin Evers uses
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteso it would be in my best interest to get 2-3 triumphs instead of 1 premier?
Just curious, what reels are you using?
a cheap pos reel does not look good on an expensive rod
my uncle said if i want he has 2 PQ's he doesn't use because he hates baitcasters. (they were his first ). but ya i love his PQ's ;D
PQ are awesome reels thats all pro Edwin Evers uses
yep ;D
Quotemy uncle said if i want he has 2 PQ's he doesn't use because he hates baitcasters. (they were his first ). but ya i love his PQ's ;D
OK, so your uncle will give you two PQ's. That doesn't answer the question :-?
QuoteQuotemy uncle said if i want he has 2 PQ's he doesn't use because he hates baitcasters. (they were his first ). but ya i love his PQ's ;D
OK, so your uncle will give you two PQ's. That doesn't answer the question :-?
it doesnt answer the original question but he wanted to know what reels i will be using.