Need More $100 Rods 2024
LgMouthGambler reply :
Companies like Shimano, Abu, Falcon, St Croix have stepped up and made amazing rods for the $100 range. Now, we need companies like G Loomis that are known for high priced rods to step up and get with the program. Not everyone wants to spend $200 for a bass fishing rod.
rockchalk06 reply :
Agreed. I paid 170 last weekend and that fregging killed me
Teal reply :
Def agree.
J Francho reply :
Why would Shimano cheapen the G. Loomis brand? You want a $200 Shimano/G. Loomis? Buy a Compre. If Shimano slapped a paint job and the G. Loomis name on a Compre, you'd all be screaming in the streets, lol,
ww2farmer reply :
Loomis does make a $100 rod, it's called the GL-2................it just costs $190 
thehooligan reply :
On 1/28/2013 at 11:26 PM, ww2farmer said:Loomis does make a $100 rod, it's called the GL-2................it just costs $190
i agree
Hi Salenity reply :
That would be like Loomis making an ugly stick. If you feel you need the Loomis name but can't afford to buy a rod deserving the Loomis name get a Loomis T shirt or decal.
Loop_Dad reply :
I actually don't need more $100 rods, cause the most of my rods are in that range and I am happy 
skeletor6 reply :
On 1/28/2013 at 10:46 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Companies like Shimano, Abu, Falcon, St Croix have stepped up and made amazing rods for the $100 range. Now, we need companies like G Loomis that are known for high priced rods to step up and get with the program. Not everyone wants to spend $200 for a bass fishing rod.
Loomis and Shimano are now synonymous after Shimano bought out G. Loomis. Also, dont forget that Fenwick and *** *** put out good rods in that range.
webertime reply :
That's like asking for a $20000 Bentley... VW could just slap that logo on a Rabbit, it's still a Rabbit...
Lots of companies with multiple brands (successful ones) intentionally have a "high" end and "low" end brand names. Mostly to make the high end ones keep the high end mystique and the low end ones can advertise that they have some of the high end brand's tech. See: Lexus-Toyota-Scion, Acura-Honda, Sony-Aiwa, Cannondale-GT-Schwinn Bikes, Bentley-Audi-VW. Even Pure has Abu/Pflueger-Shakespeare.
The only time it becomes an issue is when you start having too many brands and those brands actually compete against eachother, one brand could create a loss. (See Trek bikes in the 90's, they had Trek, Gary Fisher, Bontrager, Klein, Lemond branded bikes all competing against eachother for the same customers). Klein and Bontrager (THE highest quality bikes in the lineup) lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and were discontinued.
Keep them seperate. Besides you can still get GL2's with older cosmetics (same rod as the new ones, functionally) for $100 if you look in the right spots.
craww reply :
We have plenty of rods in that price range...its the most saturated in the market. I hear where your coming from though, I just bought a $300 fly rod (and $75 worth of line) and had a bit of buyers remorse afterwards. I sold an item given to me that i didn't need specifically to get a fly outfit and even though it didn't hurt my bank account, I still felt it. I'm frugal and appreciate quality lol, two characteristics that dont always go hand in hand.
I'm slowly changing to where I feel its better to get higher quality items that you enjoy over a long period of time more than a more diverse cheaper group. Case in point, Ive got a garage full of $50-100 rods I don't use and would gladly trade what I paid for 5-6 of them for one, high end GLX jig rod. If your budgets tight, I suggest saving and being patient. Shop smart and read every review you'll be informed and get EXACTLY what you want.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Even though they may be the same company, they will have different specs and styles. Pure fishing does the same with the reels, Im just saying for diversity and sales. Its just nice to have many options for lengths, materials, handles, etc.
tomustang reply :
On 1/28/2013 at 11:53 PM, Hi Salenity said:If you feel you need the Loomis name but can't afford to buy a rod deserving the Loomis name get a Loomis T shirt or decal.
Plenty of them running around!
L. Dwayne Sudduth reply :
On 1/28/2013 at 10:46 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Companies like Shimano, Abu, Falcon, St Croix have stepped up and made amazing rods for the $100 range. Now, we need companies like G Loomis that are known for high priced rods to step up and get with the program. Not everyone wants to spend $200 for a bass fishing rod.
If you want a $100 Loomis rod, buy a TFO Gary Loomis Signature Series rod. They're in that price range and are a true Loomis, rather than a Shimano rod with the GLoomis logo slapped on it.
Jrob78 reply :
There are more rods in the $100 range than ever before. Everyone complained, myself included, when Shimano cheapened the Curado and Chronarch lines. Why on Earth would anyone want them to do that with Loomis? Not everyone wants to fish with a middle of the road rod.
upnorthbassin reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 12:53 AM, L. Dwayne Sudduth said:If you want a $100 Loomis rod, buy a TFO Gary Loomis Signature Series rod. They're in that price range and are a true Loomis, rather than a Shimano rod with the GLoomis logo slapped on it.
But those rods are not really a Loomis rod. From my understanding, they used his input for the design and licensed his name for those rods...that's it. They aren't made from Loomis blanks and they don't seem to share much in common with them from the models I've seen. Now he is designing rods for North Fork Composites although I don't know how they compare to the older GL rods.
MCS reply :
On 1/28/2013 at 10:46 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Companies like Shimano, Abu, Falcon, St Croix have stepped up and made amazing rods for the $100 range. Now, we need companies like G Loomis that are known for high priced rods to step up and get with the program. Not everyone wants to spend $200 for a bass fishing rod.
That cuz the BPS Carbonlite was kicking their ass at $100-$130 range
Welcome aboard name brand to the $100 kick ass rod bandwagon!
Darren. reply :
To piggyback on the topic LgMouthGambler (hope this is relevant to your original post because it got me thinking), does warranty matter at this $100 (or any) price range? I.e., Shimano's are over the counter limited lifetime, others are send-in/pay shipping, etc.
Some say that warranties are added to the price of the rod, so does that make the Compre a better/worse value than say the Premier, Falcon or a TFO?
Shimano's warranty brought me over to the Compre side of the fence (while looking at Avids... yeah, don't skewer me, please, I do want an Avid still).
webertime reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 1:23 AM, upnorthbassin said:But those rods are not really a Loomis rod. From my understanding, they used his input for the design and licensed his name for those rods...that's it. They aren't made from Loomis blanks and they don't seem to share much in common with them from the models I've seen. Now he is designing rods for North Fork Composites although I don't know how they compare to the older GL rods.
This is how they got called Loomis TFO's
TFO: "Hey Gary how are things?"
Loomis: "I'm well thanks, what can I do for you?"
TFO: "We was wondering if you could look at something?"
Loomis: "Sure thing what can I do?"
TFO: (pulling out a prototype) "Does this look like a fishing rod?"
Loomis: "yep."
TFO: "If we pay you some royalties, can we quote you on that?"
Loomis: "Um sure?"
TFO: "SWEET" (fist pumps) "We'll have our attornies contact yours."
Loomis: "Sure thing, thanks."
Hangs Up
TFO: To themselves, "Wooo Whooo! Loomis' name!
Loomis: To himself, "Easy money..."
J Francho reply :
LOL, that might an oversimplification.
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 2:12 AM, webertime said:This is how they got called Loomis TFO'sTFO: "Hey Gary how are things?"
Loomis: "I'm well thanks, what can I do for you?"
TFO: "We was wondering if you could look at something?"
Loomis: "Sure thing what can I do?"
TFO: (pulling out a prototype) "Does this look like a fishing rod?"
Loomis: "yep."
TFO: "If we pay you some royalties, can we quote you on that?"
Loomis: "Um sure?"
TFO: "SWEET" (fist pumps) "We'll have our attornies contact yours."
Loomis: "Sure thing, thanks."
Hangs Up
TFO: To themselves, "Wooo Whooo! Loomis' name!
Loomis: To himself, "Easy money..."
The fact that you took the time to post that made me laugh 10X harder, lol. Good stuff.
webertime reply :
Lunch break with limited internet...
papajoe222 reply :
On 1/28/2013 at 10:46 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Companies like Shimano, Abu, Falcon, St Croix have stepped up and made amazing rods for the $100 range. Now, we need companies like G Loomis that are known for high priced rods to step up and get with the program. Not everyone wants to spend $200 for a bass fishing rod.
Okay, correct me if I'm getting this wrong. You'd like to see G. Loomis and other high priced rod companies to get with the program and offer a line in the $100 range. Why? If you don't want to spend $200 on a rod, there are plenty of good quality rods out there, just like there are plenty of vehicles out there for under $30K. Should Mercedes or BMW offer you something in that price range?
I'm not attempting to be antagonistic, just wondering why you'd want something you're not willing to pay the price of.
0119 reply :
OP didnt you just very recently start a thread that your end all of all rods was the shimano Sellus and that rods costing more were needless for you and your style of fishing?
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 9:54 AM, papajoe222 said:Okay, correct me if I'm getting this wrong. You'd like to see G. Loomis and other high priced rod companies to get with the program and offer a line in the $100 range. Why? If you don't want to spend $200 on a rod, there are plenty of good quality rods out there, just like there are plenty of vehicles out there for under $30K. Should Mercedes or BMW offer you something in that price range?I'm not attempting to be antagonistic, just wondering why you'd want something you're not willing to pay the price of.
Because you can never have enough options in fishing. I think every brand should try to cover all price ranges for consumers. Is it going to happen prob not, but it would be nice. Was just a thought that it would be a nice option for consumers.
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 9:59 AM, 119 said:OP didnt you just very recently start a thread that your end all of all rods was the shimano Sellus and that rods costing more were needless for you and your style of fishing?
Yes I did, but when your a tackle junkie, I mean enthusiest, its just nice to see a vast variety. Sellus is awesome, but not all I own. Use them for my reaction style rigs. Have since bought 2 more rigs, needind more sensative rods for fishing needing more feeling, Compre rods. Just want to see more options. I also stated that, lets see if I no longer need to spend the $100, well I did for the sensativity.
Hooligan reply :
I had a long, drawn out response to this, and realized it is a situation in which it will do no good. You say it's nice to see a vast variety, well, newsflash, there's a HUGE assortment out there for the tackle enthusiast, they just happen to be at enthusiast prices, not value priced, low quality, bargain basement materials and construction prices.
To insinuate that even Shimano builds a good rod at the $100 mark is somewhat contradictory. They build an adequate rod in that category, not good. Abu Garcia, Daiwa, and others blow them away. Period. You're in the $150 range before you get a decent Shimano with quality components, graphite, and resins. There are $100 rods worth owning, I've got quite a few Veritas, but the vast majority compare in no way to higher end rods.
Also, for the record, TFO does not = Loomis. Not in build, not in weight, not in sensitivity, not in components, and not in design. They cannot be even remotely compared on a scale; they are that vastly different.
rockchalk06 reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 11:54 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Yes I did, but when your a tackle junkie, I mean enthusiest, its just nice to see a vast variety. Sellus is awesome, but not all I own. Use them for my reaction style rigs. Have since bought 2 more rigs, needind more sensative rods for fishing needing more feeling, Compre rods. Just want to see more options.
Have you fished a Crucial yet?
Jrob78 reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 11:53 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Because you can never have enough options in fishing. I think every brand should try to cover all price ranges for consumers. Is it going to happen prob not, but it would be nice. Was just a thought that it would be a nice option for consumers.
Companies are under no obligation to "cover all price ranges for consumers." That's crazy. Besides, if Loomis (for example) did make a $100 rod, it wouldn't be any better than any of the other $100 rods on the market. They would have to cut something, either components, blank materials or both.
St. Croix has a few rods in that price range, they're decent rods but nothing special and nowhere close to their higher end offerings. If anything, you could make a case that it hurts their brand. Loomis is held on a pedestal because they make very high quality fishing rods, they would be crazy to drop their standards because not everyone can afford it.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Wow, some of you are reading this all wrong, or looking for something that isnt there. I guess some of the prices that some of you are wiling to pay are way higher than mine. Some of you say there is enough options and no need for more. Some saying that if they dropped to making a $100 rod it would be no better than whats available. I get it, but most people arent willing to pay $200 for a rod, some people would like to see companies partake in the price range build to see what they would offer. Would it be better than whats available, who knows, but wouldnt you like to see? Geeez, get all out of whack about it why dont you.
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 12:06 PM, rockchalk06 said:Have you fished a Crucial yet?
Yes, but that will get me in trouble if I start fishing those. They are sweeeeeet though.
rockchalk06 reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 12:15 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Yes, but that will get me in trouble if I start fishing those. They are sweeeeeet though.
It's the reason i want another. It blew me away
endless reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 12:15 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Yes, but that will get me in trouble if I start fishing those. They are sweeeeeet though.
To bad you couldn't have caught their older models when they were on clearance for such a great price. I got mine not for the greatest price but still at $140 I think. Just always got to stay on the look out never know what you might come across.
I do own a couple of Carbonlites and Pro qualifier rods I am happy with.
Hooligan reply :
Pay attention to the flea market, you can pick up Cumaras for around $100. heck, you could get Cumara for $105 from TW before they ran out...
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 12:24 PM, endless said:To bad you couldn't have caught their older models when they were on clearance for such a great price. I got mine not for the greatest price but still at $140 I think. Just always got to stay on the look out never know what you might come across.I do own a couple of Carbonlites and Pro qualifier rods I am happy with.
I almost pulled the trigger when TW put them on sale. By the time I decided O was gonna do it, they were sold out of what I was going to get.
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 12:28 PM, Hooligan said:Pay attention to the flea market, you can pick up Cumaras for around $100. heck, you could get Cumara for $105 from TW before they ran out...
Im not looking to buy a rod, it was just a thought that ran through my head while browsing around at new rods.
kickerfish1 reply :
Lgmthgambler,
Your question seemed ok but when you start asking companies to build "value" rods that typically don't compete in this arena is where the problem lies. Look at megabass for example. Just because they build rods doesn't mean they will build one for $100 yet alone $300. They make harbaits but you wont find one for under $10 from a retailer.
Point is anglers have many options of rods in this $100 pricepoint. Not all manufactures want to compete in a saturated market. The following comapnies already compete there... shimano, St. Croix, BPS, Abu, Daiwa, fenwick, Denali, ***, quantum, wright and McGill, falcon, etc... that is over 10 options right there off the top of my head.
The other hard part for me to believe is that we all know you fish some pretty nice curados and chronarch reels. Full retail of these reels is $150- $200. For bottom contact or sensitivity needed techniques just step up to a better rod. If you spent as much on rods as you do your reels your options would probably double or triple would probably be amazed at the difference.
bmlum415 reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 12:53 AM, L. Dwayne Sudduth said:If you want a $100 Loomis rod, buy a TFO Gary Loomis Signature Series rod. They're in that price range and are a true Loomis, rather than a Shimano rod with the GLoomis logo slapped on it.
Or theres the the new kistler klx ,made with a north fork composites blank which is are made Gary himself which makes it a loomis, and they're like 160 if my facts are right
bmlum415 reply :
Also if you buy a bunch or even a few $100 rods, why not save $50-150 more and you could use a crucial, gl2, dobyns savvy or champ, kistler klx,etc..
papajoe222 reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 11:53 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Because you can never have enough options in fishing. I think every brand should try to cover all price ranges for consumers. Is it going to happen prob not, but it would be nice. Was just a thought that it would be a nice option for consumers.
Okay, now I get it. Like Daiwa produces a $500 reel and still offers a Quality product in the $150 range. Yea, and I don't think it'd take Lomis off the pedestal some have them on, except for maybe those that have them there.
Rangerphil reply :
Some people will not pay 150-200 for a rod even if they found the money laying on the side of the road. That is their preference and I understand. As far as other companies making cheaper rods why not you never know they may come out with something just a little better than what is already out there. as far as the shimano crucials go I bought 2 new ones a while back for dirt cheap, I think they were like 60.00 a piece they are the 6'6" mh baitcaster ones that have the full cork and I love them. I still have one brand new that I have not figured on what to use it for yet!
*Hootie reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 12:35 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Im not looking to buy a rod, it was just a thought that ran through my head while browsing around at new rods.
See what happens when you start thinking LMG. That's why I don't bother......lol. Whatever made you think you were entitled to a thought, or an opinion,. C'mon, get with the program buddy....lol
Hootie
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 12:28 PM, Hooligan said:Pay attention to the flea market, you can pick up Cumaras for around $100. heck, you could get Cumara for $105 from TW before they ran out...
Yeah the best $100 rods are the ones that are on sale for around that price.
Last year got a Legend Elite, LTB, and Cumara for total all together of $345- oh and a Clarus for $30.
gripnrip reply :
I believe what LMG is saying is "Man I wish there were more rods in the $100 range because so and so suggested a rod at $185. What if I don't like it? I could have had 2 rods for that much." What his heart is saying "I wish Shimano would come out with 17 more rods at $100 so I can oh and awe over them."
:-)
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 8:42 PM, hootiebenji said:See what happens when you start thinking LMG. That's why I don't bother......lol. Whatever made you think you were entitled to a thought, or an opinion,. C'mon, get with the program buddy....lolHootie
Yeah, no kidding! Lol.
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 9:58 PM, gripnrip said:I believe what LMG is saying is "Man I wish there were more rods in the $100 range because so and so suggested a rod at $185. What if I don't like it? I could have had 2 rods for that much." What his heart is saying "I wish Shimano would come out with 17 more rods at $100 so I can oh and awe over them." :-)
Too funny!
Flywatersmallie reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 12:14 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Wow, some of you are reading this all wrong, or looking for something that isnt there. I guess some of the prices that some of you are wiling to pay are way higher than mine. Some of you say there is enough options and no need for more. Some saying that if they dropped to making a $100 rod it would be no better than whats available. I get it, but most people arent willing to pay $200 for a rod, some people would like to see companies partake in the price range build to see what they would offer. Would it be better than whats available, who knows, but wouldnt you like to see? Geeez, get all out of whack about it why dont you.
Should there be a Loomis $10 Wally World special? That's another price range, lots of people won't spend $100 for a rod either
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 9:59 PM, Flywatersmallie said:Should there be a Loomis $10 Wally World special? That's another price range, lots of people won't spend $100 for a rod either
This is true too. My theory, note I said MY THEORY, is the sweet spot for a rig is around $150-200 on the reel, and $75-125 for a rod.
*Hootie reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 10:01 PM, LgMouthGambler said:This is true too. My theory, note I said MY THEORY, is the sweet spot for a rig is around $150-200 on the reel, and $75-125 for a rod.
LMG, just apolgize to everyone on the forum, and let it go......lol
P.S. And promise, you will never have another thought.
Hootie
deep reply :
Spend as much or as little as you want to; but if $100 is what you want to spend, aren't there already a lot of rods in the market? What I don't like is that most manufacturers don't make rods in the length, power, and actions I want/ prefer. In fact, Powell is the only brand that actually does.
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 10:52 PM, hootiebenji said:LMG, just apolgize to everyone on the forum, and let it go......lolP.S. And promise, you will never have another thought.
Hootie
Youre right. Im sorry. my mistake. Ive been too busy with the Fire Departments that I have had little time to fish, and my brain is overloading due to lack of water therapy. I will try harder to keep my brain under control, and attemp to produce a thought. My name is Matt, and Im going through fishing withdrawels.
rockchalk06 reply :
On 1/29/2013 at 9:59 PM, Flywatersmallie said:Should there be a Loomis $10 Wally World special? That's another price range, lots of people won't spend $100 for a rod either
There are stupid comments and there is this!
J Francho reply :
Looks like there's nothing to add here, since it's degraded to insults.
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