Spinning or Baitcasting for Senko 2024
JigMe reply :
What do you guys prefer to use for Senko/worm fishing? I have read some post on Senko setups, and folks got different ideas. Can anyone please explain the advantage on both Spinning and Bait casting setups for Senko/Worm fishing? And which one you would prefer? Thx. 
b.Lee reply :
I prefer baitcaster but you need a setup for it. Spinning gear has too much line twist for my taste, but i do use it. Both are equally effective.
Hammer 4 reply :
Wichever YOU prefer, I use both..my Son throws his baitcaster only..
Matt Kremers reply :
baitcaster. I far prefer to use a baitcaster whenever possible. The only time I would use spinning is in very clear water with spooky fish where I would have to go down to 6lb line. Casting with a baitcaster for me is more accurate, quicker to get another cast out, and more comfortable. Playing fish is easier as well
esoxangler reply :
Baitcaster. More for accuracy in casting than anything else. There are plenty of anglers that are very accurate with a Spinning rod, I'm just not one of them.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
I think this depends to a degree, what senko type bait you throw. The actual Yamamoto seems dense and heavy enough for light end bait-casting. I use spinning gear myself for weightless plastics unless the cover calls for heavier gear.
0119 reply :
If I remember right a weightless 5" Yamamoto Senko weighs nearly 3/8oz. Any casting reel should throw that. Wacky style I prefer using a spinning reel. Texas rigged I prefer a baitcaster. I find a 4" Senko more successful and only throw that on a spinning rig.
Hammer 4 reply :
You Can cast a 5" weightless Senco on a baitcaster, no problem..with the hook, IIRC the weight is about 1/2oz.
LAO162 reply :
QuoteBaitcaster. More for accuracy in casting than anything else. There are plenty of anglers that are very accurate with a Spinning rod, I'm just not one of them.
I'm equally inaccurate with both spinning & baitcasting gear Thus, I use both depending upon my situation, mood, or whichever is closest
JigMe reply :
Thank you for all the help guys.
One of my friends said, the reason I dont use baitcaster rod because senko's are so soft and sometimes he will throw one off during casting. And I believe he fish weightless. Anyone else ever experienced that?
Hammer 4 reply :
Never had one fly off...if so, rigging is likely the problem.
JigMe reply :
yeah. He usually fish wacky style, maybe that's why the worm flies off?
KYntucky Warmouth reply :
I use spinning but that's because I'll have a weightless hook setup on a spinning rod that can throw senkos, finesse worms, and any plastics of any weight.
Hammer 4 reply :
Still shouldn't fly off. Now, my guess is he maybe slinging the rod to hard, in hopes of getting longer cast's..? The lighter the bait, the more you need to loosen the spool tension..
Quoteyeah. He usually fish wacky style, maybe that's why the worm flies off?
K_Mac reply :
I use spinning for wacky rigging, and I fish a Senko wacky rigged most of the time. I have thrown them off while casting. I doubt that my thumb would have responded in time to prevent a serious professional overrun had I been using casting gear. Just my .02. Try both and use what works best for you. Good luck.
bigfruits reply :
spinning rod for a verticle fall
D4u2s0t reply :
I started using a baitcaster last year, and use it these days whenever possible. It's all preference, i'm sure there's people that will give a convincing argument that casting is better, and i'm sure others will give a convincing argument that spinning is better. (I find this topic to almost be like discussing manual vs. automatic tranny on a car forum. both sides have their fans) Use what feels best to you.
Crestliner2008 reply :
I truly believe that preference for baitcasting or spinning, is basically just a personal preference choice.
There is little that cannot be done successfully with a spinning rig. The converse is not necessarily true however. Especially when you start getting down in line and lure sizes. The fable of line twist with modern spinning rigs can usually be found to be caused by operator error. Either the line was improperly installed, the bail is not manually tripped, or an incorrect rigging (such as not using a swivel when needed) is employed.
Whether I'm running braid, fluorocarbon or mono on my main line, I always use an appropriate sized fluorocarbon leader of about 3' long with a quality swivel in between.
More to the point of this question at hand; a good spinning rig, loaded with 10# fluorocarbon line is about as optimal as you can get for throwing Senkos. And that includes whichever rigging way you want to toss.
The "snapping" off of any wacky rigged Senko is usually caused by inserting the hook through the worm (without any support), instead of using an attachment device, such as an o-ring or Goody band. I've caught as many as 8 or 9 fish on one Senko using Goodys. No problems....no worries.
J Francho reply :
You will lose many baits if you combine wacky rig with baitcaster. The bait usually flies off on the back swing, before you notice, and you then backlash on the follow through, trying to cast a bare hook, LOL.
Now, tie on a wide gap worm hook, and t-rig the Senko, and you should be able to skip it with a baitcaster with a little practice.
JigMe reply :
QuoteYou will lose many baits if you combine wacky rig with baitcaster. The bait usually flies off on the back swing, before you notice, and you then backlash on the follow through, trying to cast a bare hook, LOL.Now, tie on a wide gap worm hook, and t-rig the Senko, and you should be able to skip it with a baitcaster with a little practice.
That sounds fun Francho...hahah!
phisherman reply :
I think what works best for senkos is... what ever you are comfortable with. There are not too many specifics on how to fish a senko. Although I will say that a spinning rig spooled up w/6 pound mono or fluoro would be ideal for fishing senkos and other finesse baits in areas that don't have a lot of cover. While a casting rig w/braid or higher pound test fluoro or mono would be ideal for fishing areas with cover.
And yes, those O-Rings greatly improves the longevity of senkos.
midnighthrasher reply :
Generally speaking i use a spinning for open water and a baitcaster for tight water. But...... if i'm tossing a tube and a senko i will put the tube on my spinning reel and use the baitcaster for a senko. I also generally throw weightless plastics on a medium fast spinnning rig and weighted plastics on a medium heavy extra fast baitcaster rig.
I guess there no right or wrong in this case i just see what works best on the water and do that.
Goose52 reply :
I was fishing a GYCB Senko just yesterday on a BC rig and when I reeled the bait back in after a cast, it was torn most of the way through at the point the EWG hook point passes through the worm. I was just lucky that 2/3 of the bait didn't break off on the backcast and give me a major backlash. Been thinkin' maybe I'll go to spinning gear - at least for the GYCB Senko - others like the YumDinger seem a lot tougher and I haven't had one come apart like the GYCB bait.
Tin reply :
(see signature) lol
swilly78 reply :
Generally I use casting gear, unless Im skipping under docks or under hanging trees.
Lucky Craft Man reply :
4" Senko or Smaller and when Skipping Docks, I use Spinning. 5" Senko or Larger and when fishing heavier cover, I use Baitcasting.
hookset on 3 reply :
LeeMD, it depends, for smaller senkos or wacky rigs in windy conditions- spinning.
Tex- posed rig with larger diameter hook like an Owner J hook 3/0, baitcaster with 10 or 12 lb test- baitcaster.
For wacky rigging, try some rubber O rings.
A good hook for texas would be the new Owner slim Twistlock Light.
NBR reply :
I prefer bait casting because I am more accurate with a BCer than with spinning gear and I have better control over the fish. I fish unweighted Senkos down to 3" on 10# fluoro. If I am drop shotting I use spinning gear.
My buddy uses spinning gear and I would say that if you don't want to spend the time to develop your baitcasting skills then use spinning gear.
Bayou Bass reply :
Casting 99% of the time. Wacky, weightless, any hook it doesn't matter I use casting.
Sherlock 60 reply :
About 4 years ago I read an article about Gary Yamamoto switching to MH gear with braid for Senkos. I made the change myself three seasons ago and now use a MH spinning set-up with 20# PowerPro for Senkos and all other soft plastics (except tubes).
I use baitcasting gear for most other applications, but will stick with spinning gear and braided line for soft plastics.
JigMe reply :
QuoteAbout 4 years ago I read an article about Gary Yamamoto switching to MH gear with braid for Senkos. I made the change myself three seasons ago and now use a MH spinning set-up with 20# PowerPro for Senkos and all other soft plastics (except tubes).I use baitcasting gear for most other applications, but will stick with spinning gear and braided line for soft plastics.
After you took the recommendation from Gary, do you fish any better on soft plastics with spinning gears?
CWB reply :
Primarily Spinning for me as I usually am skipping the bait under a dock or pontoon boat etc. 10 lb. Yo-Zuri Ultrasoft , 6'6" MH rod, 4000 series Shimano reel.
NewAngler reply :
I'm sure its been said 100 times before, I havent read the posts in this thread. But i go with a baitcaster, spinning gear gives me far too many line twists.
Koop reply :
Weightless t-rigged or wacky I will use spinning gear with 8# Yo-Zuri, M/F rod.
Weighted I use BC gear with a MH/F.
Sherlock 60 reply :
QuoteQuoteAbout 4 years ago I read an article about Gary Yamamoto switching to MH gear with braid for Senkos. I made the change myself three seasons ago and now use a MH spinning set-up with 20# PowerPro for Senkos and all other soft plastics (except tubes).I use baitcasting gear for most other applications, but will stick with spinning gear and braided line for soft plastics.
After you took the recommendation from Gary, do you fish any better on soft plastics with spinning gears?
In a word, yes.
I really can't explain it, but it seems to be a better match for those baits. When I switched from baitcasting gear for Senkos it immediately was a more natural fit and felt more comfortable. I fish them weightless 99% of the time, by the way.
Two more benefits: 1) longer casts; and 2) should a Senko fly off the hook there are no birds nests to deal with.
He also said to be sure to use a small swivel to eliminate the line twist several posters have mentioned.
I wish I could find that article again, but no luck. Maybe it was a dream...
NBR reply :
I prefer baitcasters over spinning. I cast Senkos and their knockoffs down to 3" with little trouble. The 4" and 5" cast like rockets on a baitcaster. I'd say it depends on which system you use most confidently.
grimlin reply :
Spinning gear is used for most weightless plastics for me.No exceptions.
I've had a senko fly off on a baitcaster already and it ended badly.I just kept reusing it and reusing it till i should have known the thing was going to come off.Soft plastic will eventually fly off once you catch and use it enough during the day.
I use Baitcasters for jigs,spinners or something with a solid weight attached to my line.
I'll stick to using spinning gear on weightless plastics.I'm with Sherlock 60 on this one.
steezy reply :
5" or longer - baitcast
small/short senkos - spinning
Red Bear reply :
i dont use baitcasters so i cant really answer the original question, i use spinning gear and even a spincaster at times. but several people here have mentioned line twist on spinning gear as a reason for not using it. the only time i get line twist is when i have fresh brand new line on or if my spool is getting low on line. after a couple times out and a few fish later i dont have any problems with line twist at all. im just curious as to why its such a problem for others, and with senkos of all things? i rarely use a swivel as well. to me one of the best things for line that is having problems is to hook a nice fish in open water and having it run and pull out line further than you typically cast because you have a good natural tension on it when reeling back in onto the spool...
BenoBreath reply :
QuoteI use spinning but that's because I'll have a weightless hook setup on a spinning rod that can throw senkos, finesse worms, and any plastics of any weight.
X2
Well said, Big Rick.
bassman018 reply :
A 3 inch wacky senko I use finesse tackle, A 4 inch senko I use medium spinning, and for 5 inch, and any weighted Texas I use casting.
Bankbeater reply :
It depends on what type of cover I'm fishing in. If I'm in fairly open water I will use spinning gear. If I'm in thick slop I will use a baitcaster.
iceintheveins reply :
The 4" senko throws best on medium spinnning gear with 8 pound line. The 5" senko works awesome on 12 pound line and I always use casting gear when using it. you can throw it a mile with even a $50 casting reel. You can use 14 pound test with the 5" and still have good action, slowing the drop a little.
4" - Spinning
5"- Casting
I.rar reply :
i throw 5" trick sticks on a baitcaster all day. 6'6 mh rod and 12lb big game.
ChazfromVA reply :
Baitcast.. i feel like i have more control that way
krisjack69 reply :
I see alot of users here like to skip there baits.I cannot figure out how to skip.Although most places I fish are from land and open water usually.Pond I fish has lots of lilly pads.I may fish tomorrow with a Rage toad but we will see.I have to fish in the morning since its hot and sometime tomorrow I have to go to dept of labor.
SirSnookalot reply :
Everything in freshwater is done with spinning gear and braided line, I mean everything. I don't own or would consider buying b/c gear.
joshmb1999 reply :
I use spinning gear. 6'6" mh rod and 6# yozuri ultra soft. Never used a swivel and have never had any problems with line twist
NBR reply :
On 1/25/2010 at 8:34 AM, Lee.MD said:Thank you for all the help guys.
One of my friends said, the reason I dont use baitcaster rod because senko's are so soft and sometimes he will throw one off during casting. And I believe he fish weightless. Anyone else ever experienced that?
Yes I have thrown them off but I believe its because I've gotten some tears in the Senko and it just brakes. This can lead to the mother of all backlashes but I still prefer a baitcaster. Then I prefer a baitcaster except for very light (1/8 oz or smaller) lures.
bman310 reply :
On 6/2/2011 at 2:37 PM, SirSnookalot said:Everything in freshwater is done with spinning gear and braided line, I mean everything. I don't own or would consider buying b/c gear.
That's your opinion.. I say you are missing out by not using any baitcasters.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 6/3/2011 at 7:25 AM, bman310 said:That's your opinion.. I say you are missing out by not using any baitcasters.
What am I missing?
There are number of people on BR that only use spinning gear and some of them catch some really great fish, me being one of them.
LuckyHandsINC. reply :
On 1/25/2010 at 2:00 PM, bigfruits said:spinning rod for a verticle fall
although i do use a casting rod for senkos this is a very good point. when using a casting rod its a good idea to pull some line to ensure a vertical fall. On the rare occasion i use a 3 in senko i will use spinning gear but thats it. Using Yamamoto senkos will definately improve casting distance on casting gear because they are packed with salt and much heavier
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