Magnetic (Daiwa Tatula SV TWS) vs centrifugal (Shimano Curado 200K) brakes 2024
el Largo reply :
Hi All,
I've been using spinning rods since I began fishing, but I'm in the market to buy my first baitcasting reel. I don't get out to fish as much as I'd like to and because of that, I would like to buy a baitcasting reel that isn't prone to backlashes/bird's nest.
I did my homework before writing my post and it seems that magnetic brakes are more "forgiving" than centrifugal brakes. However, in the reviews I've read (and I'm sure I've missed some) most people tend to think that the Shimano Curado 200K (with it's centrifugal brake system) does a better job at reducing backlashes than Daiwa's Tatula SV TWS, even though the Daiwa reel has magnetic brakes. If someone, like me, is wants a reel that isn't prone to backcasts, why wouldn't he/she buy the Daiwa Tatula SV TWS with the magnetic brakes? The reasoning seems a bit contradictory to me. Any thoughts and insight would be greatly appreciated.
For what it's worth: 1) I don't have any allegiance to Daiwa or Shimano and only mention these reels because they fit my price point and seem to be a good investment; and I'm going to match up the reel with a Dobyn's 705CB.
Bonus points for tips on how to learn to use a baitcaster and how to avoid backlashes and fix them!
Thanks!
NYWayfarer reply :
Have you looked at any reels that have both magnetic and centrifugal brakes? Seems to me that is the best of both worlds.
I have a Lew's Tournament MB reel that has both. Using that reel I only backlash when I do something dumb, like snag a tree on my backcast. 
Choporoz reply :
Reasonable enough question. I don't know. When I started using baitcasters five or so years ago, I bought a reel with magnetic brakes. I thought that having external brake adjustment would be 'easiest'. So, I've stuck with what I learned on. (I've owned Abu, Lews, Daiwas, Quantums, Pinnacle.) (If I NEEDED a new reel today, I'd start by looking for a Tatula or a Smoke.)
I've not picked up a Shimano, just because the voices in my head said that I didn't need to mess with two different systems. Clearly, Shimanos have a TON of fans, so I don't think you can go wrong with any well-made, widely available reel today. You're evidently ready to do your homework and practice a little, so go ahead and dial back the apprehension a bit, choose either, and dive in. Slightly daunting, perhaps, but it isn't rocket surgery.
TylerT123 reply :
If you’re going to use the reel for cranks, I’d definitely get the Curado. At first, dialing it in was difficult but once you do, you won’t have to adjust the spool tension or brakes unless you want to or you fish a much heavier or lighter lure. I have my spool tension set so a crankbait falls at a decent speed and my internal at 2, external at 3. One reason I didn’t want magnetic brakes is because you lose some distance with them but Daiwa’s Magforce is different than most. Adjusting the brakes on a Curado K doesn’t take that long compared to an external magnetic.
Junger reply :
I have the Tatula SV TW, and Zillion SV TW. It is difficult to backlash the Tatula SV TW unless the tension knob is really lose, or have little to no brakes. I backlash a little more with the Zillion SV TW, maybe because it has a lighter spool. I do like the Daiwa's because all the adjustments are external and I can adjust based on the conditions or how I'm fishing (full casts, pitching, backhand, etc) on the fly.
I just got the Curado DC, so I can't compare to the Shimano, but the build quality is also impressive.
Joshua van Wyk reply :
In my experience Daiwa is much more forgiving and easier to use. You can set up Magforce out of the box in a minute then never have to mess with it again.
Choporoz reply :
On 8/8/2018 at 11:55 PM, Joshua van Wyk said:In my experience Daiwa is much more forgiving and easier to use. You can set up Magforce out of the box in a minute then never have to mess with it again.
Was that not true for your Shimanos?
Mjmj reply :
I have the following reels
Curado 70
Curado 200
Citica
Tatula ct
Tatula ct type r
Tatula sv
I can say without a doubt if I was a beginner afraid of backlash, I would buy the tatula sv. That said if I wanted to learn to be more proficient and learning to us my thumb a little, I would buy the curado. People are very loyal to their brand of reels. Can't blame them. Shimano's and Diawa reels are both great brands. I enjoy them both. Bottom line is what you want to get out of the reel your using. If I were to start over, i would buy the curado. Your gonna pick out more backlashes at first, but you will be better at using a baitcaster.
new2BC4bass reply :
Shimanos are often said to be set-and-forget reels. I have some that are. I have a few Daiwas that are also set-and-forget reels. When I get into the lightest lures that I use on a baitcast reel, I find I have less problems with several of my Daiwas than my Curado 51Es. Some people have the opposite experience. I think a lot of it is what you learned on and what you use the most. I learned on a Daiwa and have more magnetic braked reels than centrifugal braked reels. Not all magnetic brakes are equal.
I do like dual brake reels. Tournament MB is a nice reel. I have older Patriarch XTs that if they backlash it is definitely me. My older gold colored Carbonlites (a dual brake reel) does as well as my TD-Z 105Hs with 3/16 oz. Shad Raps.
On 8/8/2018 at 11:55 PM, Joshua van Wyk said:In my experience Daiwa is much more forgiving and easier to use. You can set up Magforce out of the box in a minute then never have to mess with it again.
I set the brake dial and spool tension out of the box on my Primmus and haven't had to touch it....yet.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
I'm not gonna tell you what to buy but I'll give you some of my experience. Not long before, I used shimano chronarch 50e (set it and forget it) and Daiwa SV105SH exclusively. Sometime when I grabbed my curado 70, I couldn't cast a thing almost every other cast I would get backlash. I was gonna sell my curado 70 so many times. The thing that curado still hold on to me is casting distance which is better than both if I don't get backlash. I then decided I would only use curado 70 to get use to with super free spool and new braking system. I bought 3 more curado 70 and use those day in day out until I can cast any weight lure 1/4 oz and up with no backlash.
Today I took my SV105SH out for my finesse fishing. I can cast weightless worm on #2 EWG hook, 50ft easily (Roboworm straight tail 7") before that I could only made it 25ft or less and not as accurate as today.
Even magnetic is easier to control but if you don't plan to use with super light weight lure centrifugal brake is not as bad as you might think and you would gain more distance and educate your thumb as well.
BaitFinesse reply :
The Tatula SV can cast without having to thumb the spool like a Shimano DC reel. It is much more controlled than the centrifugal SVS Curado K. You can crank the mag dial up and have at wall 5 feet in front of you and it won't backlash. The reel can still cast pretty far with heavier baits but you have to throw it hard to overpower the brakes compared to the Curado K.
GReb reply :
Both Daiwa and Shimano have quality braking systems and are set and leave for the most part. I’m partial to centrifugal when it comes to casting cranks, spinnerbaits, etc. On the flip side I think the Tatila is the best flipping reel I’ve ever owned
I’d say to learn on centrifugal. But if you are not patient and just want a reel that goes A to B, the magforce Daiwas are the ticket.
TylerT123 reply :
On 8/9/2018 at 3:16 AM, BaitFinesse said:The Tatula SV can cast without having to thumb the spool like a Shimano DC reel.
If you set it up right, most reels can though.
Joshua van Wyk reply :
On 8/8/2018 at 11:59 PM, Choporoz said:Was that not true for your Shimanos?
Nope, my Curado K is a nice reel but I won't be purchasing another.
TylerT123 reply :
On 8/9/2018 at 4:48 AM, Joshua van Wyk said:Nope, my Curado K is a nice reel but I won't be purchasing another.
How long did you try to set it up? The reel could be defective or it’s not adjusted right. What lures and weights are you using?
BaitFinesse reply :
On 8/9/2018 at 4:33 AM, TylerT123 said:If you set it up right, most reels can though.
I mean not even thumbing it when the bait hits the water. I did some distance casts on land with a frog to measure distance and I didn't need to stop the spool when the frog hit the ground. This is with loose spool tension to the point of a tint bit of side to side play. The Tatula SV is a very smooth casting reel.
Joshua van Wyk reply :
On 8/9/2018 at 5:42 AM, TylerT123 said:How long did you try to set it up? The reel could be defective or it’s not adjusted right. What lures and weights are you using?
I have the centrifugal brakes set to 2 on 2 off, when throwing a frog I have the external brakes set on 2 1/2 - 3 depending on the wind. It's a smooth caster and excellent retrieve but I'm not satisfied with the distance. My fuego outcasts the Curado with most baits. Maybe it's defective or I'm just not setting it up right.
Vincent_Diesel reply :
Just last weekend I was in the exact same same predicament. Went to my local sporting goods store and had one of each in my hand for quite some time, trying to decide. Walked out with the Curado K over a Tatula SV simply because it felt better in my hand. I too am new to baitcasters, and before the purchase I watched all the videos I could on how to setup brakes. The more I practiced, I soon realized that backing off the internal end external brake adjustments fulfilled the thrill of casting long bombs and using my thumb became second nature when my target approached.
Again being a total noob, I realized that initially I relied on the brakes engaging. Now I feel like part of the experience of bait casting is using my thumb for control. I feel my thumb is better than magnets or centrifugal force.
el Largo reply :
Great feedback! It's also inspired a couple more questions... how much does line factor (I would use mono) matter when it comes to backlash? Also, is there a rule of thumb for what to set your brakes at for lure sizes?
TylerT123 reply :
On 8/9/2018 at 9:26 AM, el Largo said:Great feedback! It's also inspired a couple more questions... how much does line factor (I would use mono) matter when it comes to backlash? Also, is there a rule of thumb for what to set your brakes at for lure sizes?
Line thickness matters, heavier lines are thicker and harder to backlash, also easier to pick out. Mono is the thickest line for it’s # test.
Beetlebz reply :
I was going to stay away but....
Neither conventional magnetic, magforce z or centrifugal brakes are set and forget. A 11/16oz frog requires different brake settings from a 3/4oz Texas rig. A 5/8oz square bill requires different brakes from a 1/4oz darter and 3.8 keitech. If you aren't changing your brake settings, you're missing out on casting performance. Period.
This is why I recommend daiwa magforce z reels. For example I have a 7'5" MHF that is spooled with mono for light topwaters, finesse jigs, light Texas rigs.... maybe a chatterbait or swimbait in a pinch. I loved the reel and its performance, but I had the side plate off of my casitas 3 or 4 times a trip adjusting my centrifugal brakes while I was out on the kayak. I could have gone to an extra shoe to keep from having to adjust them constantly but I would be losing out on casting distance. With magforce Z brakes I'm rarely under-braked as is often the case with conventional magnetic brakes but I still have the convenience to rapidly and accurately adjust the brakes on the fly with changes to lures and wind conditions.
Those who choose to run more brakes to keep from having to adjust them aren't wrong... if it makes you happy go for it. Just dont confuse it with set and forget brakes.
Edit... thicker line is harder to backlash but thick line is often stiff line and stiff line is easier to backlash. As long as you use a good quality mono you shouldn't have too many problems.
TylerT123 reply :
On 8/9/2018 at 9:22 AM, Joshua van Wyk said:I have the centrifugal brakes set to 2 on 2 off, when throwing a frog I have the external brakes set on 2 1/2 - 3 depending on the wind. It's a smooth caster and excellent retrieve but I'm not satisfied with the distance. My fuego outcasts the Curado with most baits. Maybe it's defective or I'm just not setting it up right.
Maybe your rod? Frogs are light and not aerodynamic, the Curado does well with heavier hard baits though.
CroakHunter reply :
I let my 10 year old step daughter, who has only used spincast and spinning reels use my Tatula sv the other day and sitting 10 minutes I had back the brakes off a fair amount and she was casting 45-50 feet. That was using a rod that was too big and heavy for her and her having not the best mechanics in the world. Not once did I have to pick a backlash or over run out. No way I would let her even touch a reel without the sv spool right now until she learns proper technique first. with that being said, I can take that same setup and pitch weightless senkos, 1/4 ounce jigs, or make 45 yard casts with a frog or heavy jig.
*also didn't read the previous posts so you may already have your answer.
Mikeltee reply :
If you are new to baitcasters, get the Diawa. I havent thrown one in 10 years. I got both the Tat SV and the K. I went with a Lews Tourny Pro G as well. The easiest is the Lews and its only 120$. All are 7-1 reels. With the same weight lure and same line, I can crank 38 revolutions with the Lews and 42 with the other 2. The Diawa Is the best in my opinion, but my first one had a faulty Twing that wouldnt reset. I dont see the Tat lasting long because of the Twing. I hate the 200k!!!! You will hate the 200K being your first. I can tune it in and rock it for an hour. No change in anything then all of the sudden it starts backlashing. The only thing I dont have this problem with is hollowbody frogs so its now my frog reel. I have always been a Shimano man, but have been out of the game for a decade. I will steer clear of them from now on. That 200k has left a rotten taste in my mouth. I could care less about that fancy DC setup. I know how to throw a BC and my wife dont fish so theres no need to get a few extra cranks on a cast for some new tech thats brand new. I realize DC has been around for awhile but this iteration is brand new.
Mjmj reply :
On 8/9/2018 at 9:54 AM, Beetlebz said:I had the side plate off of my casitas 3 or 4 times a trip adjusting my centrifugal brakes
Curado's have the break adjustment on the inside and outside the side plate. No need to remove the sideplate for adjustment s after it's set up.
Beetlebz reply :
On 8/9/2018 at 6:17 PM, Mjmj said:Curado's have the break adjustment on the inside and outside the side plate. No need to remove the sideplate for adjustment s after it's set up.
That's just plain inaccurate. The centrifugal brakes work with the magnetic brakes, they both could need adjustment at any given time. If you only needed one centrifugal brake setting you would only have one brake setting, not 4. Different lures fly through the air differently. What works for a big, fat crankbait may be miles away from what's needed for a slim swimbait kn a darter, for example.
fishnkamp reply :
Here is my two cents. As many know from my previous posts I had a friend lend me a Daiwa several years ago and I sold off most of my 12 baitcasters in favor of Daiwa Exceler,( predecessor to the Fuego CT) Tatula, Tatula Type Rs and Tatula CTs reels. The reels I had included some Curados, Chronarchs. They were good reels, but after fishing the Daiwas I preferred the Tatulas. I have tested some friends of mine's Shimano MGL and new Curado Ks.
I would not trade one of my Daiwas for any of them at all.
Everyone has fixated on the Tatula SV as the only Daiwa to consider.
Now the Tatula SV is a specialized version of the Tatula CT family. It has a special SV spool and a different set of flyweights than a normal Tatula CT. It carries less line as well, but its claim to fame is its ability to skip and handle light lures. I am not saying it can't handle heavier lures, but it designed to do those tasks best. If I was buying my first all purpose reel or a reel that will do other duties most of the time, then the Tatula CT or a Daiwa Fuego in a 6.3-1 or 7.3-1 would be my best choice. Proper adjustments are important to every reel but these Daiwa reels adjust very easily BUT not the same as any other reel out there. I have been using baitcasters for over 40 years so I have used a bunch of different ones. I have taught a dozen or so other anglers how to adjust the Diawas as well as their own reels from several fishing boards. I will once again post these two videos. The first explains how the Daiwa MagForce breaks work and the second one shows Brett Ehler explaining how to properly set up a Tatula SV reel. All the entire Tatula family of reels and the Fuego CT reels adjust exactly the same. I almost never change my exterior magnetic dial even if I change baits of different weights. Never adjust the reel for a "slow steady falling bait " like others. It will disappoint you for sure.
I hope that explains things a little bit more accurately. I am a homer and I admit it, but these reels are workhorses and easy to use. One thing I will say for best distance I find these reels respond best to a nice steady cast not a hard jerky casting stroke. Good luck making your decision, there really not many bad reels out there in the top brands.
TylerT123 reply :
On 8/9/2018 at 11:48 PM, Beetlebz said:That's just plain inaccurate. The centrifugal brakes work with the magnetic brakes, they both could need adjustment at any given time. If you only needed one centrifugal brake setting you would only have one brake setting, not 4. Different lures fly through the air differently. What works for a big, fat crankbait may be miles away from what's needed for a slim swimbait kn a darter, for example.
Curado’s don’t have magnetic brakes, they meant small adjustments like wind for the external dial. Most people won’t adjust their spool tension and brakes for every lure change.
el Largo reply :
This is a really thorough comparison between the two reels- thanks! I actually checked out both in person today and preferred the Daiwa, but didn't make a purchase because they didn't have a right-handed reel. My "testing" was limited only to holding them and trying them on the rod, so I did't make any casts. That being said, the Daiwa was a little lighter, seemed more intuitive to use and I think are better to learn from. I'm also going to be using lighter crankbaits so the salesman said the Daiwa would be a better fit for me.
Anybody have any experience using Sunline Shooter Defier?
burrows reply :
Conclusion of the matter and the bottom line.... shimano is better:)
iabass8 reply :
Hey look, another LgMouthGambler.
Beetlebz reply :
On 8/10/2018 at 12:28 AM, TylerT123 said:Curado’s don’t have magnetic brakes, they meant small adjustments like wind for the external dial. Most people won’t adjust their spool tension and brakes for every lure change.
The curado DC, yes. I agree with you, most people dont and that's ok! But one brake setting isnt going to be optimal for every bait is all I'm saying. Of course I'm referring to traditional combo brakes, not the DC. The DC just electro-mechanically does what the daiwa does magnetically.
For what it's worth when I ran reels with traditional combination brakes I often didn't change my brakes every time I swapped baits either.
burrows reply :
centrifugal brakes are better! Magnetic brakes are better!!
Its prefrance try both see what works best for you and use that. Use both if you want. I started fishing with the pinnacle enertia loved that reel fished lews they were ok fished shimano and I found what I liked it could be the opposite for anyone got to try em to see what you like better for what your gonna be doing.
FishTank reply :
I own and fish both. My personal preference is Shimano. I know it seems easier to fix the magnetic breaks on the outside of a Daiwa but I think the system is more finicky. With most of the Shimano I own, I set the breaks with two or three on, and that's it. With Daiwas, I can be fine for about 10-15 casts then I get a cast, for no apart reason, that backlashes. Now with that said, I still think most Daiwas are great and would love a new Zillion.
Two things I do think about when this discussion comes up in my head.... 1. Will the magnets on my Daiwa reels wear out it in time (loose their magnetism)? 2. When Shimano breaks wear out they can be replaced and they are a pain to replace.
el Largo reply :
On 8/10/2018 at 9:44 AM, FishTank said:I know it seems easier to fix the magnetic breaks on the outside of a Daiwa but I think the system is more finicky. With most of the Shimano I own, I set the breaks with two or three on, and that's it. With Daiwas, I can be fine for about 10-15 casts then I get a cast, for no apart reason, that backlashes.
The simplicity of this makes a lot of sense and is really appealing. Would someone using a baitcasting reel for the first time set the Shimano (is it a Curado 200K?) brakes to 2 or 3 if he's throwing 3/8 or 1/4 crankbaits?
burrows reply :
On 8/10/2018 at 10:25 AM, el Largo said:The simplicity of this makes a lot of sense and is really appealing. Would someone using a baitcasting reel for the first time set the Shimano (is it a Curado 200K?) brakes to 2 or 3 if he's throwing 3/8 or 1/4 crankbaits?
3 or 4 is fine you can lower them to 2 when your more comfortable but when it’s windy 4 is optimal for 1/4 to 3/8 ounce backlash free
TylerT123 reply :
On 8/10/2018 at 9:44 AM, FishTank said:
Two things I do think about when this discussion comes up in my head.... 1. Will the magnets on my Daiwa reels wear out it in time (loose their magnetism)? 2. When Shimano breaks wear out they can be replaced and they are a pain to replace.
Nah, magnetic brakes don’t wear out.
fishnkamp reply :
I have two reels I have been using since the nineties and their magnets are fine.
FishTank reply :
On 8/10/2018 at 12:04 PM, fishnkamp said:I have two reels I have been using since the nineties and their magnets are fine.
Actually a little sarcasm on my part.....Depending on how much heat is applied and what type they are, I think they could last 100-500 years. Someone much smarter than me could probably figure this out.
iabass8 reply :
The magnets will almost never wear out but they will on occasion break loose.
burrows reply :
On 8/10/2018 at 9:44 AM, FishTank said:2. When Shimano breaks wear out they can be replaced and they are a pain to replace.
Nah the brake shoes are very durable probably be years before you have to replace them and they are very cheap and easy to replace.
This is really just starting to seem like a big diawa shimano debate and I’m personally sick of theses debates I’m out!!!!!
Dirtyeggroll reply :
I have multiple Tatula SVs and multiple Curados (70 and K). Both braking systems on those reels work exceptionally well.
No matter what reel you have, you will quickly adapt to prevent backlashes. More than likely, the first time you cast into a light wind, you will get a good backlash. Not because of bad brakes, but because you didn’t realize such a light wind can catch a bulky crankbait so easily.
Since you plan on this being a reel for cranking this setup will likely be more of a casting setup so a super advanced breaking system won’t really be necessary.
I am guessing that you are building a shallow crankbait setup since you are pairing the reel with a 705CB?
I paired a Curado 70 with my 705CB and it balances perfectly.
I use the Tatula SV’s on my T-rig and jig setups.
el Largo reply :
On 8/10/2018 at 7:16 PM, Dirtyeggroll said:I am guessing that you are building a shallow crankbait setup since you are pairing the reel with a 705CB?
Yes, that's correct. What's the big difference between the Curado 70 and the K?
On 8/10/2018 at 7:07 PM, Burrows said:This is really just starting to seem like a big diawa shimano debate
Sorry- my initial inquiry focused on why Shimano Curado K reels have fewer backlashes with centrifugal brakes than the Daiwa Tatula SV with its magnetic brakes, especially since magnetic brakes have a reputation for less backlashing. I think it just comes down to experience/practice and matching up the right reel with the right lure, as well as line and rod.
Maico1 reply :
On 8/10/2018 at 4:25 AM, el Largo said:This is a really thorough comparison between the two reels- thanks! I actually checked out both in person today and preferred the Daiwa, but didn't make a purchase because they didn't have a right-handed reel. My "testing" was limited only to holding them and trying them on the rod, so I did't make any casts. That being said, the Daiwa was a little lighter, seemed more intuitive to use and I think are better to learn from. I'm also going to be using lighter crankbaits so the salesman said the Daiwa would be a better fit for me.
Anybody have any experience using Sunline Shooter Defier?
Have 5-6 reels spooled up with it...crankbait and topwater.
NYWayfarer reply :
On 8/10/2018 at 9:44 AM, FishTank said:Two things I do think about when this discussion comes up in my head.... 1. Will the magnets on my Daiwa reels wear out it in time (loose their magnetism)? 2. When Shimano breaks wear out they can be replaced and they are a pain to replace.
The thing I think about when these discussion's come up in my head... Will the reel last until I am tired of it and want to move on to a new one? Since I like to buy new reels every season or two the answer always seems to be yes.
I have a few favorite reels (Shimano Symetre, Pflueger Supreme, etc.) that have lasted years with proper maintenance and not fishing them every outing.
J Francho reply :
Both systems work fine, but with ANY reel, you have to develop a modicum of technique. You acquire this skill through practice, and when you're learning, you will backlash. I don't find that either system is better or worse, just different.
Dirtyeggroll reply :
On 8/10/2018 at 9:03 PM, el Largo said:Yes, that's correct. What's the big difference between the Curado 70 and the K?
Sorry- my initial inquiry focused on why Shimano Curado K reels have fewer backlashes with centrifugal brakes than the Daiwa Tatula SV with its magnetic brakes, especially since magnetic brakes have a reputation for less backlashing. I think it just comes down to experience/practice and matching up the right reel with the right lure, as well as line and rod.
The Curado 70 is smaller. Need less line to spool it and easier to palm.
clh121787 reply :
A proficient caster will do well with any reel he or she chooses... pick the one that's your favorite color and practice practice practice
BaitFinesse reply :
On 8/10/2018 at 9:03 PM, el Largo said:my initial inquiry focused on why Shimano Curado K reels have fewer backlashes with centrifugal brakes than the Daiwa Tatula SV with its magnetic brakes
They don't. It is much, much more difficult to backlash an SV reel compared to an centrifugal SVS Shimano.
el Largo reply :
On 8/11/2018 at 3:26 AM, BaitFinesse said:It is much, much more difficult to backlash an SV reel compared to an centrifugal SVS Shimano.
Thanks- but why is that?
BaitFinesse reply :
On 8/11/2018 at 3:48 AM, el Largo said:Thanks- but why is that?
Centrifugal brakes use centrifugal forces to brake. What this means is that the centrifugal brakes brake more strongly when the spool is accelerating and at high spool RPM and do little to no braking as the spool slows. The brakes are brake shoes/blocks that are mounted to the spool by a pin that acts as a hinge and make contact with a centrifugal race mounted to the side playe when the spool spins rapidly through centrifugal forces and fall away from the race when the spool slows. They cut in to curb spool RPM and then cut out leaving the last portion the the cast to be controlled by your thumb and spool tension. Centrifugal brakes require you to ride your thumb over the spool towards the end of the cast and to apply pressure to compensate for wind or the bait slowing ect. They are very free casting and can offer very good distance but require well trained thumb OR increased spool tension to compensate for the free spool at the end of the cast. Most guys run them with as little spool tension as possible and use their thumb to control the spool as it slows.
The Daiwa SV Air Brake uses an induction rotor aka "inductor" to brake. It works through induced magnetic field flux (Lentz effect) and a ramp shaped piece on spool shaft and on the inductor that extends the inductor deeper into the magnetic field to increase braking as the spool accelerates. The deeper the inductor is seated into the magnetic field The greater the braking and the faster the spool spins the more the inductor extends outward and into the magnetic field. When the spool slows the inductor pulls away from the magnetic field but still retains some magnetic braking even when seated back to the spool.
The biggest difference between the two is that once the centrifugal brakes fall away from the race or cut out you are on free spool and it is up to you to thumb the spool to control it at these low spool speeds where as the SV spools are still controlled by the inductor and magnetic field all the way down to 0 spool speed. The SV spool is much, much more controlled at low speed such as towards the end of the cast or when pitching and can react to rapid bait deceleration such as casting into the wind or skipping a bait on the surface of the water. The trade off for this control is that all things being equal you should be able to long cast a centrifugal reel further than an SV Daiwa although some of the higher end SV reels are known for really good distance.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
@BaitFinesse you sum it up pretty good. The only Daiwa reel, got "oh wow" from me when casting is Steez EX100. I still use my Daiwa SV105SH but mostly for light weight lure 1/4oz or below becuz I don't trust curado 70 any mishap can happen anytime with this reel even with well educated thumb. Now I only have two Daiwa left, luna 253 and SV105 and these two work perfectly for the job they assigned for.
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