I love the weight even though weight is the last factor in rods for me. I've got a 15 year old Allstar that feels just as good as rods I've felt today. However, I've gotten into micro guides and am finally ready to change over. I've read bad things about the Carbonlite w/micro guides. Every site. Roughly 1 in 10 reviews. Can anyone elaborate on the matter? I have some cheap Quantum rods with them and I love them. Do they have problems with them?
I used 10 Carbonlite Micro guide rods for 2.5 years roughly 250 days a year, all over the East coast. In and out of rod lockers, my truck, various boats, hotel rooms, rattling around in a rod tube all up and down the coast. When I sold them they were all like new, never had a single problem with any of the guides and that is something I too have read about. I must have got lucky or just bought from a good batch. I use all customs now and seriously don't think I've gained anything over the Carbonlites. They served me well. Brian.
How sensitive are they? I've got (again) a Quantum Octane and Escalade HD that feel absolutely amazing compared to my St. Croix. All are MH(Octane feels more like a M), 6'6...but with the Quantums, I can feel absolutely every rock, pebble, dare I say grain of sand. I've kept the Octanes for the purpose of Carolina/Texas rigs due to sensitivity. Keep in mind, I would prefer to fish everything I own on these rods. I'm not stupid enough to buy rods just for one thing and for good reason.
On 2/10/2015 at 1:41 PM, Trent Wilson said:How sensitive are they? I've got (again) a Quantum Octane and Escalade HD that feel absolutely amazing compared to my St. Croix. All are MH(Octane feels more like a M), 6'6...but with the Quantums, I can feel absolutely every rock, pebble, dare I say grain of sand. I've kept the Octanes for the purpose of Carolina/Texas rigs due to sensitivity. Keep in mind, I would prefer to fish everything I own on these rods. I'm not stupid enough to buy rods just for one thing and for good reason.
Hmm, claiming someone is stupid just because they own rods for one thing?? I'd have a heck of a time flipping weeds with my cranking rod, or lobbing an A rig/swimbait with my jerkbait rod. If you can get by with 1 rod for everything, good for you, but I hardly think it makes someone "stupid" just because they own specialized setups.
Mine were the old Black models. I have no clue about the new White model, but I'd rate the Blacks as above average. Not NRX sensitive, but they don't cost $500 either. I actually purchased all my Blacks at one time for $75 each and you'd be hard pressed to find a rod as good for twice that. Brian.
I don't own the rods you mentioned so I can't give a fair comparison, but I've been using nothing but st croix avids and ltbs for a long while. I lost a few a while back and didn't want to spend a ton of money replacing them. I switched all but two of my combos to carbonlite micros and I feel like, performance wise, the carbonlites are just as good if not better in sensitivity. They are definetley less tip heavy and I find myself preffering them to my avids and ltbs. Hope that helps.
Well, they're listed at 109 I do believe. Worth the money?
seriously? man i was set on picking up a st croix avid but after reading all this i may just go do a trade in and grab a carbonlite
I love st croix, so don't get me wrong. They are definetley a much better built rod. You can tell immediately when comparing the two. I still love mine. But As I've gotten more and more into the seven foot rods, I find that the medium heavy versions of the both avids and ltbs can be a little tip heavy when compared to the carbonlites. Time will tell on the build quality, I've owned the carbonlites for a few months. for now, I'm using avids for my spinning and medium action combos. I've switched over to carbonlites for my worm jig combos and tend to favor them quite a bit. Just an opinion.
I think that the carbonlites are worth the money. As are all bass pro rods, they seem to be an excellent performing value for the price. Haven't owned mine long enough to comment on durability. If u do a search on this forum there should be quite few threads about these rods. I started one a while back and people seemed to really like them.
On 2/10/2015 at 8:51 PM, robster80 said:seriously? man i was set on picking up a st croix avid but after reading all this i may just go do a trade in and grab a carbonlite
Yes seriously. St. Croix rods are tip heavy, this doesn't mean they suck. I use to own St. Croix rods, but I also found they were too stiff for my liking. The latter was my biggest factor I didn't like them. Other than that, they performed well and are sensitive rods starting at the Avid line. I still own one Avid (6'6" M/F). Great all around rod and the best jerkbait rod I've ever used.
I just bought two Carbonlites last week after thinking about getting them for a long time. They definitely balance better and the 6'6" M/F is super light. I tried a Chronarch 50 E and balanced near perfect, I put a PQ on and it was still good. Definitely less tip heavy. True test is fishing them though, ice up here though.
On 2/10/2015 at 1:41 PM, Trent Wilson said:How sensitive are they? I've got (again) a Quantum Octane and Escalade HD that feel absolutely amazing compared to my St. Croix. All are MH(Octane feels more like a M), 6'6...but with the Quantums, I can feel absolutely every rock, pebble, dare I say grain of sand. I've kept the Octanes for the purpose of Carolina/Texas rigs due to sensitivity. Keep in mind, I would prefer to fish everything I own on these rods. I'm not stupid enough to buy rods just for one thing and for good reason.
I handled an Escalade at DSG and was impressed with how light it was. However, I try to never pay full price. Salesman said they never go on sale because they have no problem selling them at full retail. How about a review of the rod? I looked several times before Christmas hoping to find one (even at full retail), but they had none in stock.
On 2/10/2015 at 1:41 PM, Trent Wilson said:. I'm not stupid enough to buy rods just for one thing and for good reason.
HMMM ?
On Sunday I got to fish side-by-side with the black
Carbonlite and the white model - both with Shimano
1000-size reels.
The white was - by far - more tip-light than the black,
and the black was a ML 6'6" I had just bought the day
before for 40% off.
I took it back that evening to Bass Pro and exchanged
it for a white 6'6" M rod.
I have three other black Carbonlites, a 6'6" M spinning
rod that is very close to the 6'6" white in lightness, but
is still heavier in the tip.
The black casting rods I have are lighter than the spinning
rods, and balance perfectly with my Chronarch 50e reels.
Either rod will serve your needs well.
The odd thing to me was that the ML black was heavier than
my M black. Not sure why, if it was a fluke. But it was a no
brainer to return it for a white model.
Bottom line for me, thus far, I'm pleased with where the white
rods are going. I wasn't early on, but now that I've fished one,
my mind has changed.
On 2/10/2015 at 10:31 PM, KDW96 said:HMMM ?
x2
On 2/10/2015 at 10:25 PM, new2BC4bass said:I handled an Escalade at DSG and was impressed with how light it was. However, I try to never pay full price. Salesman said they never go on sale because they have no problem selling them at full retail. How about a review of the rod? I looked several times before Christmas hoping to find one (even at full retail), but they had none in stock.
I absolutely love it for the price. Hard to beat it at 39.99 for the 6'6 and 49.99 for the 7. And as for the people wondering what I mean by not stupid enough to buy a purpose built rod? Why in the hell would I buy a rod for cranks, jerks, plastic, spinners, topwater...you're looking at roughly $700-900 for that. Or I can buy 2 all purpose rods and high quality reels for $300. Besides, I've got the equivalent to the bait monkey with cars. Trust me, my subaru is draining the wallet just as quickly as fishing.
On 2/10/2015 at 11:11 PM, Trent Wilson said:as for the people wondering what I mean by not stupid enough to buy a purpose built rod? Why in the hell would I buy a rod for cranks, jerks, plastic, spinners, topwater...
Nobody ever said you have to do that, but a very large majority of people on here have fishing as their primary hobby/obsession/passion whatever you choose to call it. Most of those people do buy rods for a specific technique. Some even drop that $700-900 you were talking about on a single setup. So when you come in here saying that buying a rod that's specifically purchased for one technique is stupid, you're going to ruffle some feathers. Especially since you're basically saying anyone who does is stupid as well.
Unless you fish professionally or fish tournaments every weekend, I feel it's a waste. Granted, I'm not the richest man in the world, but I fish for the enjoyment. Spending a grand on fishing is not the route for me considering the fish I've caught on the stuff I have. If I can do it, anyone can.
Well, I guess the rest of us just better do what Trent says cause we sure don't want to look stupid.
I love this site for the wealth of information available. Playground antics never are very informational.
As a jeep owner, I feel spending thousands more on a Subaru is stupid.
See how that was insulting to you... even though I wasn't insulting you directly?
You can't say something like that and not expect a little backlash. You're skin has got to be tougher if you're going to throw rocks.
Different strokes, different folks and all. ....
Oh. ... and the carbonlites I fooled with seemed well worth the money. I'm considering getting a few myself.
White or black is my only problem.
And I do jeeps as well, I just need something reliable.
If you can find the black carbonlites on clearence, then pick those up. I personally feel the difference is negligible at regular prices.
What's the difference besides color?
r the guides on the new ones as good as the black ones?
On 2/11/2015 at 3:06 AM, robster80 said:r the guides on the new ones as good as the black ones?
X2. I've been told the black are better.
As I don't own either, its all in store comparison.
But as mentioned above. ... if anything, the white rods seem less tip heavy- but the black ones arent really tip heavy at all. So its kinda eh. If you put them on a scale, the white one is probably lighter. ...but I could barely tell.
Basically just pick one that looks better with your reel.
What reel ya got Trent? I just purchased the new white carbonlite reel. Total thumbs up for $85. I don't think anything is close in that price range
Ones I'm looking at are 129.99 at BPS. And a Lew's BB1HLZ. Best reel I've ever used.
Nice. Lews will prob be the next reel I purchase. People that use them praise them.
Have any backlash issues with your current reel?
I like my black ML casting carbonlite. I was slaying dinks this past weekend casting t rigged 4" alive shads with 1/16 oz weights on my stock curado 51. I paid $70 for mine and feel they're definitely worth their msrp.
Where the heck are you finding these rods at? I've only found them at BPS and they're 109.99 for black micro and 129.99 for white micro.
On 2/11/2015 at 9:00 AM, Trent Wilson said:Where the heck are you finding these rods at? I've only found them at BPS and they're 109.99 for black micro and 129.99 for white micro.
In-store only sales right now. If you can find a BPS near
you, maybe they'll have stock, maybe not.
Either way, after the in-store Spring Classic, it will probably
go online, and you might find deals then. Maybe, not for
certain at this point.
EDIT: Price depends on length and whether or not micro.
I bought my 6'6" ML for $63 and change (tax included).
I will be there Saturday. And I'm looking at the new 7' MH with micro. Pricey.
arent they on sale tho? or is that the regular guide ones for like 89?
I'm looking online. They may be cheaper in store.
Ya Trent, I get it. You don't like the idea of spending a lot on fishing gear. That's fine. Nothing wrong with that at all. However, the way you couched it - using the word "stupid" - it came out differently than you intended. Hence the comments.
I'm sure you didn't intend to imply people were stupid for spending that kind of bucks, but it came out sounding that way. Sometimes things can be interpreted completely different than you were thinking when you posted it. Just something to take note as you type out your comments.
My apologies, I should have been more in depth with what I was saying. I meant it one way but was taken another. my mistake.
If I can find them for the prices ya'll are posting, I'll buy them out.
Thanks Glenn
I will chime in and say that I have a new white carbonlite reel and I love it in every single way ( so far) . It is stupid light, feels solid, and is one of the - if not THE- most trouble free casts I've ever had. Once I figured the braking out ( about 10-12 casts) I haven't touched it since.
Time will tell if it holds up. I have some old bps reels that just won't die ( old blue rick clunn... ) and I have had bps reels that barely made it a year. Fingers crossed on this one!
It's gonna be hard to get me away from the Lew's. That centrifugal magnet system....like Ronco. Set it and forget it. I honestly don't remember changing it since I set it out in the yard.
Trent, I actually haven't put line on mine just yet. I have the other model that came out last year and it casts flawless. Its the same exact reel just gray in color...same guts.
If you take the side cover off and engage all the magnets, no backlash. I haven't had one yet.
This one has an inner knob setting and outer. Not sure I even have to take side cover off to engage the magnets.
Oh, you've got a different model. Mine has no magnet knob. Just 6 switches on the spool that I can adjust for wind and what not. Yours is still a great reel though.
Well, I don't think I need more distance and the brake is set to basically nothing. I'm already throwing 1/4 oz lures on a 3/8 - 1 oz rod into anywhere from 5-15mph winds. And if anyone needs pics of any rod or reel I've mentioned, I can't get pics to load on here. Pm me a phone number or email and I'll happily share them.
I'm having the same issue. I want one, but is the new white in 7' MH worth the $20 extra?