Finesse Casting Rod 2024
Mr_Poche' reply :
Bit the bullet and picked up a chronarch 50e, avail honeycomb micro cast spool and bfs air bearings. Now I need advice on a rod. I'm looking to spend less than 300 dollars on a weightless plastic/very light t rig bottom contact rod. Needs to be as sensitive as possible and still be capable of casting 1/8 ounce total weight lures.
Looking at the kistler helium 3. 7 foot medium extra fast and the g Loomis gl2 852c. Can any one give me any insight on these rods? Also open to suggestions. Trying to stay close to 7ft. Thanks in advance
Mr_Poche' reply :
Also interested in line suggestions. I was thinking suffix 832 30lbs braid with a fluorocarbon leader. Won't be fishing any rock or heavy vegetation with this set up but it will see lay downs and brush piles. I do have some yozuri hybrid 6 lbs I was thinking about running but I'm on the fence with it
heyitzpetah reply :
You can look into some jdm rods. They make a lot of bfs rods (bait finesse). Some brands like majorcraft, megabass, and jackson are all excellent. Or an NRX 842C is also good just a tad bit above your price range if you look out for deals.
WRB reply :
You can get a custom made rod to your specs for under $300.
Tom
roadwarrior reply :
I have the Ultimate Senko Rod: G.Loomis GLX BCR 893 that I would sell for $275 TYD.
John G reply :
On 8/29/2015 at 12:29 AM, roadwarrior said:I have the Ultimate Senko Rod: G.Loomis GLX BCR 893 that I would sell for $275 TYD.
That's not really a finesse rod and it definitely won't go down to 1/8oz and that rod would defeat the purpose of buying the Honeycomb Spool.
roadwarrior reply :
The rod is matched with a Curado 50E and does VERY well with 1/8 ounce hair jigs.
deep reply :
Without a trailer? That's pretty amazing.
byram bassturd reply :
agree with John G. had the GLX 893. i wouldn't call it a "finesse stick" if going by lure weight although finesse really refers to a style of fishing for me. tried a super tuned pixy with zpi cp301 and also a mb is with honeycomb with various weights when i had this stick. 1/8oz was definitely not something i would recommend on that rod. curious as to what "very well" means.
Hogsticker reply :
Custom or the Jackson Trickster series would be my suggestion.
byram bassturd reply :
On 8/29/2015 at 3:59 AM, Hogsticker said:Custom or the Jackson Trickster series would be my suggestion.
good suggestion right here. a loomis 1 power rod, major craft are also options at that price point. you might be able to find a jackall poison adrena L/ML used or on sale for close to that price. dont forget that the line will be important to cast that weight consistently/effectively.
THE_Vue's reply :
budget rod the Kistler KLX 6'6" med-light
x4 hedgehog can get at tackledirect
x7 super eiger more for bottom contact or eiger northwall more for moving baits
x7 criffhanger
major craft MSX BFS models
Out of these rods I felt and fish I really like the hedgehog.
rippin-lips reply :
The MajorCraft Volkey series has some good bfs rods to look into.
thehooligan reply :
On 8/28/2015 at 9:20 PM, Mr_Poche said:Bit the bullet and picked up a chronarch 50e, avail honeycomb micro cast spool and bfs air bearings. Now I need advice on a rod. I'm looking to spend less than 300 dollars on a weightless plastic/very light t rig bottom contact rod. Needs to be as sensitive as possible and still be capable of casting 1/8 ounce total weight lures.
Looking at the kistler helium 3. 7 foot medium extra fast and the g Loomis gl2 852c. Can any one give me any insight on these rods? Also open to suggestions. Trying to stay close to 7ft. Thanks in advance
Both of those rods are overkill for an avail spool. Look into something light action, maybe medium light...
James Pondscum reply :
I use a st.Croix ml ltb about 6 10 lenth with a abu ltx reel . I throw eighth ounce spinner baits with no problem. I have pulled in many bass no problem. This spring trout fishing after hours of fishing and a hand ache. I picked up this rod and had no problem throwing a little jacke spoon which is less then an eighth ounce with eight pound test as far as my spinning rods, or close? The only bad thing about this rod is that if you have large hands like myself the handle is way too short and uncomfortable for me.. Except for the grip I am very pleased with the rod. Just another option. I am a loomis rod fan as they make their split grip handles long enough to satisfy me.
susQbassman reply :
Dobyns champion extreme dx 702c line 6-12 lure 1/8 to 1/2oz ml just a tad over $300.00 this rod can do it all with light lures jigs,soft plastic,buzzbaits,crankbaits small spinnerbaits,and it is super sensitive and you can purchase one at American legacy fishing,
RoLo reply :
Maybe I'm guilty of discrimination, but my idea of "finesse" fishing conjures the image of a 'spinning' outfit.
Furthermore, if maximum sensitivity is your goal, you might consider stepping down from a 7-ft long blank.
Never forget, the ultimate in sensitivity is provided by "hand-lining" (blank length gives leverage to the fish).
Roger
I.rar reply :
I love my recon 682. I can toss 1/16 jigs with 2" Keitech easy shiners a respectable distance with my tuned/bfs curado 51e.
WRB reply :
The custom rod builder can make up a bait casting rod using a spinning rod blank; example 7' ML or 2 or 2 1/2 power.
The rod action satiable for your application. Spinning rods tend to be a bit slower in action than casting rod blanks, designed to cast 1/8-3/8 oz lures with ease. You can have the handle any length you prefer, the guide trian traditional or spiral wrapped using micro or whatever guides you like and reel seat you like, St. Croix or whatever blank is within your price point...no compromises.
DVT would be a good place to start.
Tom
Mr_Poche' reply :
Thanks for all the great responses guys. I have been looking into the megabass x4 hedgehog or x7 criffhanger , the major craft vokley 68ml and a custom rod. As of right now I am leaning toward a custom rod
poisonokie reply :
On 8/29/2015 at 5:00 AM, rippin-lips said:The MajorCraft Volkey series has some good bfs rods to look into.
Do you have experience with these? Would the light be best for weightless plastics, shakey head, etc?
poisonokie reply :
On 8/29/2015 at 5:00 AM, rippin-lips said:The MajorCraft Volkey series has some good bfs rods to look into.
couldn't take it. Just got the 68L. Found one on eBay for 150 w/free shipping. Hope it works with a T3 sv and kattobi air bearings and that my wife doesn't kill me before I get a chance to find out.
Mr_Poche' reply :
.On 8/31/2015 at 10:00 AM, poisonokie said:couldn't take it. Just got the 68L. Found one on eBay for 150 w/free shipping. Hope it works with a T3 sv and kattobi air bearings and that my wife doesn't kill me before I get a chance to find out.
Interested in your opinion on it when you receive it. A review would be appreciated.
poisonokie reply :
On 8/31/2015 at 10:13 AM, Mr_Poche said:.
Interested in your opinion on it when you receive it. A review would be appreciated.
For sure, man, no doubt. I probably won't be able to shut up about it, lol. I got the VKC-68L/BFS. Once I toss a few baits and land a few fish I'll write a detailed review. I know there's a lot of interest in these. I wish I'd have heard something sooner. I mean, they have bias blanks with the Daiwa style micro pitch finish, a mod-fast action, fuji SiC micro guides, and those ultra comfortable fuji ACS reel seats, so it should be an exceptional rod. I can't believe they go for so little cash. I watched a YouTube video of a guy sticking a nice bass with a revo ltx avail mounted to it and it looked sick. Can't wait to put it to the test!
Mr_Poche' reply :
I ended up buying the major craft vokley. Vkc-69ml/bfs. 150 with free shipping is hard to pass up. It will be here sometime between sept.14-29. We shall see. Might still order something custom too. I have a old Calcutta 50 that my grandfather gave me just sitting on a shelf waiting for a worthy rod.
poisonokie reply :
On 8/31/2015 at 2:19 PM, Mr_Poche said:I ended up buying the major craft vokley. Vkc-69ml/bfs. 150 with free shipping is hard to pass up. It will be here sometime between sept.14-29. We shall see. Might still order something custom too. I have a old Calcutta 50 that my grandfather gave me just sitting on a shelf waiting for a worthy rod.
I got the 68L shipped straight from Vietnam. FedEx says it will be here Thursday, so I bet you get yours a lot sooner. I think you ordered from the same seller. My delivery window was the same as yours.
John G reply :
On 9/1/2015 at 12:10 AM, poisonokie said:I got the 68L shipped straight from Vietnam. FedEx says it will be here Thursday, so I bet you get yours a lot sooner. I think you ordered from the same seller. My delivery window was the same as yours.
This coming Thursday? Please let us know if it gets here Thursday because it took a month and a half for my MS-X Limited to arrive and I bought it from the same people, Shimreels, that you bought your Volkey.
I may be buying another MS-X Limited but next time it will be from Plat.
Jrob78 reply :
On 9/1/2015 at 3:37 AM, John G said:This coming Thursday? Please let us know if it gets here Thursday because it took a month and a half for my MS-X Limited to arrive and I bought it from the same people, Shimreels, that you bought your Volkey.
I may be buying another MS-X Limited but next time it will be from Plat.
If it got held up in customs, the seller didn't have anything to do with it. I had a reel from Digitaka get held up for over a month, just luck of the draw.
John G reply :
On 9/1/2015 at 6:15 AM, Jrob78 said:If it got held up in customs, the seller didn't have anything to do with it. I had a reel from Digitaka get held up for over a month, just luck of the draw.
It wasn't customs that was at fault. I attribute the problems to using economy shipping from across the globe.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/160790-i-got-my-first-jdm-rod/
poisonokie reply :
On 9/1/2015 at 6:15 AM, Jrob78 said:If it got held up in customs, the seller didn't have anything to do with it. I had a reel from Digitaka get held up for over a month, just luck of the draw.
Man, that would suck. I've never had that issue before. Hope it's not my turn! I thought it was shipping from Vietnam, but the shipping notification says Singapore. Don't know if that's good or bad...
Jrob78 reply :
On 9/1/2015 at 6:29 AM, John G said:It wasn't customs that was at fault. I attribute the problems to using economy shipping from across the globe.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/160790-i-got-my-first-jdm-rod/
Yeah, I remember your original post now. I wouldn't use them again either.
Jrob78 reply :
On 9/1/2015 at 7:01 AM, poisonokie said:Man, that would suck. I've never had that issue before. Hope it's not my turn! I thought it was shipping from Vietnam, but the shipping notification says Singapore. Don't know if that's good or bad...
I've only had that one package get held up that long and I've bought a lot of stuff from Japan over the years. It's also the only package I've ever been charged duties on. I doubt the shipping location matters much, assuming it gets shipped properly to begin with.
Mr_Poche' reply :
Yes I ordered mine from shimreels via eBay. Ebays window says 14-29 but fedex says est delivery date is 9-3.
Mine also says Singapore. Not sure how I feel about that.
"Fedex express mail takes 3-7 days and has full online tracking. All expensive purchases over $100 is preferably shipped by FEDEX."
This is a quote from shimreels shipping page. So hopefully we don't have problem. Fingers crossed
John G reply :
I hope you guys don't have the problems that I did. I know in the future, I will be using Plat or any of the other Japan based JDM Retailers for my rod n reel purchases. I did recently order a Megabass Baby Pop X and a Megabass Baby Griffon Zero from Shimreels and the wait was what I expected so I was not disappointed. The Major Craft rods are worth a wait but the main thing is is hopefully your rods arrive safe and sound.
poisonokie reply :
Plat doesn't have either the 68L or 69ML. It'll be alright. I've had a rod or two shipped from amazon in a box like that reduced to carbon shards, but that aluminum rod actually seems like it might prevent that. I don't know. Time will tell.
clh121787 reply :
I'm in the same boat. After selLing a tfo because it was my least favorite rod I owned. I bought another 7 foot medium light for a scorpion 1000xt for very small baits. 1/8 oz jigs panther martens , 4 inch senkos weightless with #2 finesse hooks. On 8 PouND trilene 100% percent. It cast great. But I after the cast it's dead. Just like the last one. I wished I would have just waited on a jdm and got the majorcraft volkey bfs. Don't let sells man fool you into buying a tfo claiming they fish with a garyloomis. Because they don't even come close. Buyers remorse. However it is very fun to fish. Just wish I had a better rod
Mr_Poche' reply :
I'm am very hopeful and excited about this rod.
My next decision is line choice. Light braid,6lb yozuri,or a light fulro. Sniper, tatsu. Ect.
What are you guys using?
I'm fishing very stained water so visibility.is not a concern
But cover is. Sensitivity,abrasion resistance and castability is key.
Gonna give the 6 lbs yozuri a try first because I already have a spool at the house. But I'm open to suggestions.
I've never fished fluoro so I'm very curious as to how a top end brand would perform.
John G reply :
On my light line setups for moving baits, I have used 6# P Line which I don't like because it seems to curl and kink easy. I bought some 6# Sunline Super Natural that handles great but it's weak. I'll bet the last time that I used it, I had 6 knots break while I was retying. I recently bought some 8# Big Game that I have not fished with yet. If that doesn't work out, I may switch to 8 or 10# braid
For bottom contact baits, I have used 7 and 10# Sniper and at the moment, I have 7# spooled on a Aldebaran Mg7.
I am also using Avail and Yumeya Shallow Spools.
rippin-lips reply :
On 9/1/2015 at 11:54 AM, clh121787 said:I'm in the same boat. After selLing a tfo because it was my least favorite rod I owned. I bought another 7 foot medium light for a scorpion 1000xt for very small baits. 1/8 oz jigs panther martens , 4 inch senkos weightless with #2 finesse hooks. On 8 PouND trilene 100% percent. It cast great. But I after the cast it's dead. Just like the last one. I wished I would have just waited on a jdm and got the majorcraft volkey bfs. Don't let sells man fool you into buying a tfo claiming they fish with a garyloomis. Because they don't even come close. Buyers remorse. However it is very fun to fish. Just wish I had a better rod
The bad part about buying rods you can't fish with first is that you might not be happy with your purchase. I've sold off more rods then I currently own due to that reason. The most recent being a Majorcraft Volkey. It was not a bfs model though. I fished it twice and tried to like it but it wasn't meant to be. They look nice though.
Mr_Poche' reply :
that's why I dislike buying a rod with out handling it first. either barrow a buddies rod or at least handling it in a store, I like to put my hand on them first. there just isn't a selection of quality l/ml rods locally. im forced to order online and take a gamble. Ive tried to talk a local tackle shop into carrying a selection of finesse rods but he refuses. his sale are 90% speckled trout and red drum fishermen. although I did get him to carry rage craws, megastrike shakey heads ,and cavitrons. so I cant be too mad.
if I end up not liking the vokley, it will just go into the corner with a couple other budget rods that I reserve for taking other people fishing. I have my fingers crossed though. looks to be a nice rod.
rippin-lips reply :
We have 1 small local shop that carries some St. Croix premiers and cheaper stuff. There's another place an hour away but it's all budget rods too. Veritas,halo,ect Their tackle selection is pretty good though. I'm stuck buying online for rods/reels.
Mr_Poche' reply :
Update: rod has been shipped and is in transit. New estimated delivery date is 9-10. Looks like it cleared customs.
clh121787 reply :
wow. Back to the drawing board. Maybe a bfs shimano rod may be the ticketOn 9/1/2015 at 12:52 PM, rippin-lips said:The bad part about buying rods you can't fish with first is that you might not be happy with your purchase. I've sold off more rods then I currently own due to that reason. The most recent being a Majorcraft Volkey. It was not a bfs model though. I fished it twice and tried to like it but it wasn't meant to be. They look nice though.
Mr_Poche' reply :
On 9/1/2015 at 10:02 PM, clh121787 said:wow. Back to the drawing board. Maybe a bfs shimano rod may be the ticket
I wouldn't give up on them so fast. He hasn't fished a bfs model and people opinions vary from one to the next. Between poisonokie and myself. There will be a review on the 68another sites and the 69manother sites. I would hold off a bit
clh121787 reply :
if you could shoot me a message when that revoew hits the forums I'd very much appreciate it. We're not rod snobs are we? No way. Just particularOn 9/1/2015 at 10:10 PM, Mr_Poche said:I wouldn't give up on them so fast. He hasn't fished a bfs model and people opinions vary from one to the next. Between poisonokie and myself. There will be a review on the 68another sites and the 69manother sites. I would hold off a bit
Mr_Poche' reply :
. With out a doubt. I'd be glad tooOn 9/1/2015 at 10:49 PM, clh121787 said:if you could shoot me a message when that revoew hits the forums I'd very much appreciate it. We're not rod snobs are we? No way. Just particular
poisonokie reply :
On 9/1/2015 at 10:10 PM, Mr_Poche said:I wouldn't give up on them so fast. He hasn't fished a bfs model and people opinions vary from one to the next. Between poisonokie and myself. There will be a review on the 68another sites and the 69manother sites. I would hold off a bit
Definitely. I was torn between both models. It'll be interesting to see the differences in action. The 68l is a reg fast while the 69ml is x fast. I'll be using 20lb power pro super slick with an 8 lb (6 lb dia.) invisx leader.
rippin-lips reply :
On 9/1/2015 at 10:10 PM, Mr_Poche said:I wouldn't give up on them so fast. He hasn't fished a bfs model and people opinions vary from one to the next. Between poisonokie and myself. There will be a review on the 68another sites and the 69manother sites. I would hold off a bit
Exactly we all don't think alike. My main gripe is the reel seat. That's not their fault. I didn't like it before and I'm not sure why I thought I could convince myself to this time. Second was balance. It balanced ok with a heavy reel but that's not what I wanted. I think part of it is how they decorated the rod 2ft up the blank with wraps and epoxy. The guide train is all double foot guides and the first couple are kinda big. The bfs models use micro guides though so it's not an issue. The blank itself was ok. Sensitivity was just ok. Wasn't as sensitive as I was hoping but it's also a $150 rod. Was just hoping for more I guess. It was also a heavy rod compared to others I own. Part of that could be from things I already mentioned. It's why I haven't pulled the trigger on a megabass rod yet.
poisonokie reply :
a T3 on that reel seat fits my palm perfectly my fingers fit right in the indention under the gearbox. Not so much on the tatula reel seat. Those are awesome for bigger reels like the tatulas, but with a really low profile one like a t3 it feels like there isn't enough to grab onto.
poisonokie reply :
poisonokie reply :
Haven't had a chance to take good photos, but I fished it for half an hour and it was awesome. The rod is very light, ultra sensitive, casts 1/16 oz jigs further than my spinning rod, and balances perfectly on the clamp nut, and has a perfect, braid friendly mod-fast taper and plenty of backbone. Not a whippy rod at all. It's crisp, controlled, and refined. If they sold these domestically, they would exceed $200, no doubt.
In a quick 30 min session, I had 3 light bites that were unmistakable, and had a dink on for a second, but since I neglected to turn up my drag I didn't get a hook set and he jumped off. I had one backlash, but that's because my jig grabbed some weeds on the back swing.
Upshot: Excellent bfs rod. Better than I hoped. Straight blank, aligned guides, comfortable, high quality cork handle. A steal at $150. So if you're contemplating a bfs setup, the volkey 68L won't let you down. As for me, Bye bye, spinning reel!
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