Line Size for Whopper Plopper? 2024
Brett's_daddy reply :
Okay, what line size/type do you use for a size 90/130 Whopper Plopper? I've hear some use 30lb. braid, wondering what you'd use for flouro...is 10lb. enough?
Hog Basser reply :
I use 15-17 lbs. fluoro. I have a lot of snags to contend with though, so I tend to stick to heavier line when I can.
Brett's_daddy reply :
This would actually be for a spinning reel setup...to start (until I get more comfortable with my bait caster). Can I go over the recommended line size for my reels (i.e.-if my reel says 10lb. max mono/flouro could I use a 15lb. and obviously get less of it spooled)?
Philo Beddoe reply :
I wouldn't use flouro for a top water since flouro sinks. I'll let others chime in on the lb test, but I'd use mono or braid.
r3825 reply :
I throw mine on 50lb power pro and it works perfectly
BassinLou reply :
Mono or braid sounds like the best suitable line for this topwater lure.
Hog Basser reply :
On 7/6/2016 at 4:47 AM, Brett's_daddy said:This would actually be for a spinning reel setup...to start (until I get more comfortable with my bait caster). Can I go over the recommended line size for my reels (i.e.-if my reel says 10lb. max mono/flouro could I use a 15lb. and obviously get less of it spooled)?
I wouldn't go over the recommended max weight for your reel....braid will likely be the way to go since you can get greater test strength with a smaller diameter. With the whopper plopper, I put it on my fluoro rigged pole and don't have issues with the sinking line since I'm running it most of the time and not slow walking it back like a spook, but yes mono and braid will be best.
Had a recent experience with using over the recommended size line on a spinning reel. My nephew got his new spinning setup and had an inexperienced store employee put line on it for him. They used too high of test and it was too stiff and kept unspooling off the front of the reel. He missed out on a lot of good fishing that day.
Also, as info: the equivalent diameter of a mono line is listed on the braided line spool.
dsqui reply :
30 lb power pro will be more then enough. im only running 50 on my musky rod and the pacemaker makes the bass size whopper plopper look like a crappie bait
Felix77 reply :
I personally wouldn't go more than 15lb braid on a spinning outfit. That includes for this whopper plopper. FWIW I throw it on a baitcaster and I basically use 15 mono or co-poly as long as it floats.
Mosster47 reply :
I throw it on my top water setup which is 65lb braid. It's top water, KISS.
Onvacation reply :
I usually throw the 130 on a baitcaster with 30 pound braid but have thrown it on 65. I have thrown the 90 on everything down to 8 pound flouro. Not ideal but my wife wanted to toss it on her light spinning gear for awhile. It works fine on my MF spinning gear but the 130 is a bit too hefty in my opinion for anything less than MH which is usually strung with heavier line anyway.
iceintheveins reply :
I don't like braid for topwaters. But since you insist on throwing it on spinning gear, I would go with 20 pound braid.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I fish mine on my frog rod with 50lb braid.
If you're fishing the 90 on a spinning rod, you'll be fine with 10-20 pound braid.
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 7/6/2016 at 1:29 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I fish mine on my frog rod with 50lb braid.
If you're fishing the 90 on a spinning rod, you'll be fine with 10-20 pound braid.
I will be fishing both the 90 and 130 on a spinning rod so...maybe the 30lb. braid (or 40lb which I'm guessing is equivilant in diamter to 10lb test flouro/mono which is the max size for my reel)?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 7/6/2016 at 7:43 PM, Brett's_daddy said:I will be fishing both the 90 and 130 on a spinning rod so...maybe the 30lb. braid (or 40lb which I'm guessing is equivilant in diamter to 10lb test flouro/mono which is the max size for my reel)?
The 130, at 1 3/8oz, is a very heavy bait for most spinning rods (it's heavy for a lot of casting rods for that matter). You should still be fine with 20lb braid with the 130 as long as your rod is heavy enough to be able to handle that heavy of a bait.
Megastink reply :
I've had great success with the whopper plopper. On the 130 size, the LIGHTEST line I use is 50lb braid. On the 90 size, I will use 15lb mono, but much prefer 20lb. These are big fish baits and we have a lot of toothy critters up here in Pensylvania.
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 7/6/2016 at 7:57 PM, Bluebasser86 said:The 130, at 1 3/8oz, is a very heavy bait for most spinning rods (it's heavy for a lot of casting rods for that matter). You should still be fine with 20lb braid with the 130 as long as your rod is heavy enough to be able to handle that heavy of a bait.
My rod is a Fenwick HMG 7ft. MH rod with a lure weight up to 1 oz. I've spoken to many people on this subject before and most have said they routinely throw lures heavier than what their rod rating says (within .5 oz.) as that's mostly a guideline and not a set-in-stone rule. I've also heard that Fenwick rods tend to fish heavier than their rating too so a MH will be more like a H in another rod makers product.
burrows reply :
On 7/6/2016 at 4:47 AM, Brett's_daddy said:This would actually be for a spinning reel setup...to start (until I get more comfortable with my bait caster). Can I go over the recommended line size for my reels (i.e.-if my reel says 10lb. max mono/flouro could I use a 15lb. and obviously get less of it spooled)?
Use 12 I think 15 will mess with the performance of your reel.
Brett's_daddy reply :
I have 15lb. Power Pro on the reel now and have fished it without any problems, just worried about snapping the line and losing an expensive lure :).
Robert Riley reply :
On 7/6/2016 at 5:27 AM, Philo Beddoe said:I wouldn't use flouro for a top water since flouro sinks. I'll let others chime in on the lb test, but I'd use mono or braid.
Yaaa bro^
I use 30lb braid, or 10lb mono.
d-camarena reply :
On 7/6/2016 at 7:53 AM, Felix77 said:I personally wouldn't go more than 15lb braid on a spinning outfit. That includes for this whopper plopper. FWIW I throw it on a baitcaster and I basically use 15 mono or co-poly as long as it floats.
15lb braid is the least i do on spinning. For the whopper i go with 30lb braid on a 3/4 heavy rod. The difference is in the reel size. All my spinning reels are 4000 size and cast heavy braid effortlessly
webertime reply :
Use your braid with a 15lb leader (BigGame is $8 for like 800 yards at Wally World). This will keep the trebles from fouling in the braid. I throw my 130 on a 735 Dobyns and 15lb mono and it feels like I am getting close to overloading it.
Cgrinder reply :
Yeah I think you're going to cast off the 130 on 15 lb braid. The 90 will work well though.
Brett's_daddy reply :
I'm thinking of doing either 30lb or 40lb. braid...maybe with a 15lb. Big Game mono leader although that scares me a little as I'm not sure how much I trust my uni knot tying skills attaching the leader.
Cgrinder reply :
Don't tie a Uni-Uni. Practice the Alberto knot or another knot designed for two different line diameters. The Uni-Uni works best with near identical diameters.
dsqui reply :
just use strait braid that lure is big and loud no need for a leader. besides if you use 30 pound braid why size down to 15 for a leader just run 15 braid you will be fine
Brett's_daddy reply :
So my rod is a MH but my wife has this rod http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/quantum-kevin-van-dam-tour-series-74-medium-action-spinning-rod?a=1769739, it's rated up to a 1 oz. lure weight just like my Fenwick HMG so should she be able top throw the 130 size too (yeah, it's a little heavier than lure weight suggests but many people throw a little heavier than suggested)?
MassYak85 reply :
The 130 I throw on my jig rod which has 40lb braid, the 90 I throw on 20lb braid.
Brett's_daddy reply :
So if we went with 30lb. braid that would be a happy medium?
webertime reply :
30lb braid is ~8lb diameter. It should be fine on a spinning reel. The leader is to keep the treble hooks from tangling in the braid, it will happen with straight braid.
Brett's_daddy reply :
What about my wife's rod in the above post...should she be able to throw both the 130 and 90 also? The leader sounds like a good idea too...got to practice my Alberto knots!!!
Brett's_daddy reply :
Anybody want to chime in on the ability of my wife's rod to throw these lures?
kstephes033 reply :
Honestly, its worth just learning to use the baitcast outfit. Spinning gear is less than ideal no matter the combo. Line wise i throw the whopper plopper 90 a lot and i have found 20LB mono is the best by far for the lure. Braid tends to drag it down a little at the beginning of a long cast as it is thinner in diameter and can eventually soak up a little water that drags it down a little more. 20LB mono will help to keep that nose up and gets better action. I throw my whopper ploppers with a 7'2" MH rod which works well for the 90 size, probably under powered for the larger 130. Also i did have the KVD spinning rod, way way too lite for anything of that size. 1oz is kind of a joke of a rating for that rod.
Brett's_daddy reply :
We'll probably do a mono leader and use the 15lb. Big Game, would 2ft. be a decent sized leader?
Brett's_daddy reply :
How long of a leader should you use with these?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 7/10/2016 at 12:46 PM, Brett's_daddy said:How long of a leader should you use with these?
I wouldn't (and don't), use a leader with them. That leader knot is just one more thing to fail and the stretch/shock absorbency you're getting from 2' of mono is so minimal it's not worth it.
Brett's_daddy reply :
I think somebody said that a direct tie with braid could catch on a treble hook and foul the lures action is the reason for a leader. I do plan on going up in braid size to at least 30lb if not 40lb.
Fisher-O-men reply :
On 7/7/2016 at 9:42 PM, Brett's_daddy said:Anybody want to chime in on the ability of my wife's rod to throw these lures?
The 130 would be marginal on that rod. As to a leader, yeah the front hook does foul occasionally, but not often enough for me to use a leader.
Onvacation reply :
The 130 gives my MH bait casting rod a workout so I wouldn't even think of throwing it on a M. Just drop down to the 90 if she wants to throw it on a M.
As for line, I have no problem with straight braid. If it fouls, unfoul it and throw it again. I have more issues if I get too close to a lily pad because if the lure catches it, the hooks will rip the leaves and that will definitely throw off the action of the lure.
Fish4bigfish reply :
I throw the 130 quite a bit. Here is what I use. Dobyns fury 795 sb my light swimbait rod and a daiwa tatula hd 6:4:1 spooled with 20 lb cxx. Same combo I throw my mattlures gills, huddgills and rats on.
Any lure like this I don't use leader knots. These lures can attract a big bite. 8 lb fish in the grass have a funny way of testing your leader knot and I would rather not take the chance.
the reel ess reply :
I use 15# Berkley Big Game mono for all my topwaters as well as lipless cranks. It's strong, has some stretch and floats, which makes it good all-around for topwaters and trebles. It took me a long time to settle on it, but I haven't been sorry once.
MassYak85 reply :
On 7/10/2016 at 11:34 PM, Brett's_daddy said:I think somebody said that a direct tie with braid could catch on a treble hook and foul the lures action is the reason for a leader. I do plan on going up in braid size to at least 30lb if not 40lb.
I fished the 130 yesterday, for probably 7-8 hours straight, in windy conditions, on straight 40 lb braid. I could count the number of times the line fouled the lure on one hand. You will be fine. It casts very well and shouldn't spin in the air too much where a treble hook might catch on the line.
Bluebasser86 reply :
The WP is a straight retrieve bait. There's no reason it would foul any more than any other treble hooked bait during the cast. They all foul while tumbling through the air from time to time, but the 130 cast like a bullet, it rarely fouls with 50# straight braid I fish it on.
XzyluM reply :
On 7/11/2016 at 10:47 AM, Bluebasser86 said:The WP is a straight retrieve bait. There's no reason it would foul any more than any other treble hooked bait during the cast. They all foul while tumbling through the air from time to time, but the 130 cast like a bullet, it rarely fouls with 50# straight braid I fish it on.
I have not had any problems with the hooks fouling either. I throw the 130 on a heavy with 65lb braid. I did upgrade the hooks and upsize them though. I'm surprised at the number of people wanting to throw a 130 on a medium or medium heavy. I tried it on a medium heavy with 50lb braid when I did not have my heavy with me and I wasn't comfortable with it at all. Felt like I had a brick tied on. Can easily cast it to the backing without much effort at all.
Arobb2012 reply :
I just bought the 90 size wp. I'm going to throw it with my 7ft medium with 12 lb flouroclear. Any possible problems with this setup?
Dypsis reply :
On 7/21/2016 at 9:37 PM, Arobb2012 said:I just bought the 90 size wp. I'm going to throw it with my 7ft medium with 12 lb flouroclear. Any possible problems with this setup?
FC sinks, I throw mine with Mono, but its not a pause type bait, but a steady retrieve. Try it and see how it goes - might be that you have to reel it too fast to keep it up, but again try it out.
Arobb2012 reply :
I used my wp yesterday and the only issue I had was line twist. I had a bad twisted knot cause a big backlash and I had to pull off about 50 feet of line and cut it off cause it was twisted so bad. Does braid resist twisting? I was thinking about getting and seeing if it worked better.
Dypsis reply :
On 7/26/2016 at 1:28 AM, Arobb2012 said:I used my wp yesterday and the only issue I had was line twist. I had a bad twisted knot cause a big backlash and I had to pull off about 50 feet of line and cut it off cause it was twisted so bad. Does braid resist twisting? I was thinking about getting and seeing if it worked better.
You throwing on spinning gear?
I throw top water baits (trebles) on mono, I find and not that it's very often but a treble hook can get wrapped around the braid from time to time. Not a huge deal, but it certainly can ruin a great cast.
MassYak85 reply :
On 7/21/2016 at 10:17 PM, Dypsis said:FC sinks, I throw mine with Mono, but its not a pause type bait, but a steady retrieve. Try it and see how it goes - might be that you have to reel it too fast to keep it up, but again try it out.
Yea I would shy away from fluorocarbon. It will sink and especially if it is windy and their is some chop on the water, it will pull it under and you won't get that nice load "plop" noise that it makes.
I wouldn't be afraid to pause it for long periods of times though, that's one of it's main advantages over something like a buzzbait. A steady retrieve has been my number one producer, but adding pauses in can be deadly too, especially if you pause it right at the end of a piece of cover like a dock.
YakPirate reply :
i recently picked up a few 90 WP's after reading about all the success on the forums. i ran them on a 7ft med/heavy rod w/ Shimano FK 4000 (w/no reverse, love this feature!!) reel lined with 10lb Power Pro which is 2lb mono equivalent with no issues. Although i did not hook up that day, i felt that it would have been adequate, and casts a mile.
good luck
Arobb2012 reply :
On 7/26/2016 at 1:46 AM, Dypsis said:You throwing on spinning gear?
I throw top water baits (trebles) on mono, I find and not that it's very often but a treble hook can get wrapped around the braid from time to time. Not a huge deal, but it certainly can ruin a great cast.
With the amount of twist you would think I was throwing it on a spinning set up but it was on my casting setup. I didn't directly tie on to the lure I used a snap to attach it.
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