What is the purpose of copolymer line?
Just wondering.
Thanks!
Copolymerization allows the blending of multiple polymers to get some of the best properties from each.
Wow that's cool I'm deffenetly going to get some!
What brand do you recommend?
On 12/3/2014 at 8:31 AM, *Hank said:Wow that's cool I'm deffenetly going to get some!
What brand do you recommend?
I use Pline CX, many here like Yo-Zuri Hybrid, another one that I like is Silverthread. There are a lot of good copoly lines that are inexpensive. If you a looking for help choosing one, tell about how you will use it, baits, weights, environment and other details, and I am sure someone will be able to tell you which one is the "Best".
Do you plan to use this straight spooled, or as
a leader tied to braid, or other mainline?
If you're going to use it straight on spinning or
baitcasting gear, try some line conditioner as
some of the copoly brands can be rather springy
and jumpy off your spool in coils.
I don't think anyone is truly qualified to say what
line is "best" as that is entirely subjective to that
person's opinion.
I've tried a number of copoly brands and like
Yo-Zuri Hybrid and P-Line Floroclear the best.
That's me, you can do a search and find others
who hate the Floroclear line... experience matters.
Pick one and try it out.
Wow thanks for the tip!
I would probably just straight spool it and there's nothing I hate worse than line manegment problems...
I highly recommend McCoy Mean Green. Fantastic line at a fantastic price!
I use copolymer for most of my moving baits because it stretches and provides shock absorbency but is extremely abrasion resistant.
McCoy Mean Green is the way to go if you don't want any line management.
Try a few different brands, they are all fairly inexpensive.
I just purchased 600 yards of Yo-Zuri Hybrid on sale for
$8.99. I also picked up 1500 yards of Izorline for $16.99.
Then another 20% off and free shipping with some additional
purchases.
I like yozuri hybrid and pline cxx in smaller diameters, max 10lb. Floroclear up to 12lb. Those three lines work great for me.
Copolymer isn't a hybrid monofilament line! Yo-Zuri hybrid is 2 polymers co extruded; nylon core with FC outer jacket. Copolymer is 2 polymers mixed together in a compound or bipolymer, then extruded into a monofilament line.
P-Line FluoroClear is a hybrid, P-Line CXX is a copolymer, 2 different processes.
Tom
On 12/3/2014 at 8:47 PM, thehooligan said:I like yozuri hybrid and pline cxx in smaller diameters, max 10lb. Floroclear up to 12lb. Those three lines work great for me.
How strong is the Floroclear?
On 12/4/2014 at 3:44 AM, WRB said:Copolymer isn't a hybrid monofilament line! Yo-Zuri hybrid is 2 polymers co extruded; nylon core with FC outer jacket. Copolymer is 2 polymers mixed together in a compound or bipolymer, then extruded into a monofilament line.
P-Line FluoroClear is a hybrid, P-Line CXX is a copolymer, 2 different processes.
Tom
Pline CX is fluorocarbon coated copolymer.
On 12/4/2014 at 4:08 AM, John G said:How strong is the Floroclear?
I think its a pretty strong line. Just not as strong pound for pound as hybrid and cxx. Floroclear is a smaller diameter line and easy handling, that's why its my goto for finesse. I've landed a 5lb pike on 6lb line, and a 10lb+ muskie on 10lb. The green mist color is great in slightly stained/clear water too...
On 12/4/2014 at 4:15 AM, thehooligan said:I think its a pretty strong line. Just not as strong pound for pound as hybrid and cxx. Floroclear is a smaller diameter line and easy handling, that's why its my goto for finesse. I've landed a 5lb pike on 6lb line, and a 10lb+ muskie on 10lb. The green mist color is great in slightly stained/clear water too...
Thanks! I am going to buy some 12# to try out for jigs n worms.
Yes, FloroClear CX Premium is a hybrid.On 12/4/2014 at 4:13 AM, aavery2 said:Pline CX is fluorocarbon coated copolymer.
Tom
Floroclear is one of the worst lines I have ever fished. After several beak-offs on multiple spools,
I finally gave up. ALL of the breaks were while casting. The line is very manageable and I wanted
it to work, but it didn't for me.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What he said. Hated floroclear. Tried Yo-Zuri Hybrid some years ago and haven't looked back. Strong as heck, pretty manageable and abrasion resistant. Have used 15 lb. on spinning gear for skipping with no issues.
Is McCoy mean green good for deep cranking ?...
What pound test would you recommend?
On 12/4/2014 at 1:20 PM, *Hank said:Is McCoy mean green good for deep cranking ?...
What pound test would you recommend?
I use 10lb for cranking, but I don't crank deeper than 12 feet.
Does anybody have experience w/Berkley Iron Silk?
I use Silver Thread AN40 which is very thin, limp, and hasn't coiled at all on my spinning reel. It is very strong. It casts a mile and knots hold really well.
If you want an abrasion resistant line, look at Silver Thread Excalibur.
I have seen the basic "characteristic differences" between braid, fluoro and mono. Can someone explain the unique characteristics associated with P-Line copolymers or Mean Green? (i.e. stretch, line management, buoyancy, knot holding, etc.) Thanks.
P-Line CXX
40% stronger that stated (#10 = #14)
Tough as nails
The memory of an elephant
enlighten me on the memory of an elephant lol.On 12/8/2014 at 7:54 PM, roadwarrior said:P-Line CXX
40% stronger that stated (#10 = #14)
Tough as nails
The memory of an elephant
I know some others have said they had problems with it breaking. This surprises me. I have used it quite a bit and can't recall it ever breaking. In fact, getting it to break when I needed it to was a problem at times. It's plenty strong, but a little stretchy. Definitely more manageable than a lot of comparably priced lines that I would consider "strong."On 12/4/2014 at 4:08 AM, John G said:How strong is the Floroclear?
I have used P-line cxx for many years on my crank and spinner bait reels. As said by one of the Mods, the strength to diameter ratio is second to none . Cxx is my go-to.
On 12/5/2014 at 9:06 PM, jakob1010 said:Does anybody have experience w/Berkley Iron Silk?
It casts real nice. Some complained about its abrasion resistance. Dont recall having issues with the one spool I had but Id be cautious.
Yozuri Hybrid is my go to. Some have tried to argue on here that line conditioner doesnt effect it. Ive noticed liberal use of it the night before GREATLY improves handling.
8 lbs gamma spinning & 12 lbs for casting green I also love the yo Zuri hybrid 6 lbs & 12 lbs line.
On 12/9/2014 at 3:36 AM, ChrisWi said:enlighten me on the memory of an elephant lol.
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Flouroclear is an outstanding line ...I also love iron silk as the new version may be the best on the market ....I fought a 32 inch musky on 6 lb with no problem.Great castability , no memory, and very very strong.Love it on my spincast reels and makes a great inline spinner line as well as cranks but can be used for anything. Some find it a little stretchy but for me I say ....so????? Nothing wrong with stretch ...a fabulous line.
I am a big fan of P-Line CXX. While it does have some memory, it is no worse than YoZuri Hybrid in my opinion. Either line benefits from the use of KVD Line and Lure. Both lines are great values and are worth trying.
Silver Thread AN40 in 6# is on two spinning set ups.
I've cursed Hybrid as a main line before (though, at the time I wasn't familiar with line conditioner), but have grown to love it as a leader coupled with braid. I like fishing it as a leader versus mainline for a few reasons.
- it's still pretty low visibility compared to mono
- with braid, it still provides a lot of sensitivity but with a bit of a cushion for reaction baits and can help keep treble hooks pinned to the fish.
- it's d**n near indestructible. 12lb carries a 17+lb breaking strength and can be fished through sandpaper covered in razor blades.
That said, as a main line...
it's memory can be crazy and without aggressive use of line conditioner, you may be pulling backlashes and birds nests for days, potentially damaging the line and your patience. Also, it's not going to cast nearly as well as braid.
I have used Yo-Zuri hybrid and P-Line CXX. I have had no issues with either of them.
The Yo-Zuri, Silver Thread and Mean Green do they sink or float. I have never fished a co-poly, I currently fish expensive fluros. Guess the only benefit would be stretch for treble baits over fluros correct? Right now for those baits I'm throwing the Sunline Reaction, can anyone think of why I should maybe try a co-poly over it? If it floats I will try it as a leader to braid for topwater instead of the Sunline Reaction leader on braid. Thanks guys.
YZ treated with line conditioner is my go to copoly.
On 1/3/2016 at 3:06 AM, BassinLou said:YZ treated with line conditioner is my go to copoly.
Ditto
Mike
I use 15lb Mccoy Mean Green (.015 inches, .381 mm) for small swimbaits and have been very satisfied. Affordable, smooth, supple, abrasion resistant, and no memory. $8.99 for 250 yards now that's value! I have this spooled on my BB1 baitcast reel and Shimano.
Another vote for McCoys. Been using Mean Green. Just ordered a spool of Xtra Clear to try.
Interested in the Silver Thread AN40. I could get a 3,000 yard spool for $15 so that seems like a great deal. Does it sink or float? How is stretch and sensitivity? Line handling? For reference I usually use Trilene XL.
I use AN40 on spinning reels. Low stretch, very supple, never had a line twist, casts a mile. I'd try it at that price.
Here's some info
Silver Thread AN40 was developed with the stealth approach in mind. Designed with an incredibly small diameter, this line can really cover the distance. The AN40 formula is very limp and supple, making it a favorite among fishermen. If you require long casts and low underwater visibility to get close to the fish, look no further than AN40. Available in original silver and low-visibility green.
Yards | LB Test | Average Diameter |
300 | 4 | .0070 in |
300 | 6 | .0086 in |
300 | 8 | .0100 in |
300 | 10 | .0112 in |
275 | 12 | .0128 in |
275 | 14 | .0136 in |
275 | 17 | .0147 in |
275 | 20 | .0161 in |
275 | 25 | .0183 in |
275 | 30 | .0200 in |
Happy Silver Thread user of over 20 years-I have no complaints.
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On 12/8/2014 at 7:54 PM, roadwarrior said:P-Line CXX
40% stronger that stated (#10 = #14)
Tough as nails
The memory of an elephant
It's tuff but the memory is horrible not so much an issue with a baitcaster but the stiffnes of the line I believe comprises the smoothness and lenth of a cast
I like Fluoroclear and have never had a single issue with it. I decided to try the P-Line CX when spooling up my new Curado. First thing I noticed was the "springiness" that others have mentioned. I guess I'll see how it is when I finally get to throw it. Fingers crossed.
On 12/3/2014 at 8:22 AM, aavery2 said:Copolymerization allows the blending of multiple polymers to get some of the best properties from each.
so what are the typical properties that makes this line unique? What is the preferred? Abrasion? FC coating?
On 1/5/2016 at 1:24 AM, HoosierHawgs said:Interested in the Silver Thread AN40. I could get a 3,000 yard spool for $15 so that seems like a great deal. Does it sink or float? How is stretch and sensitivity? Line handling? For reference I usually use Trilene XL.
Don't remember what I paid for my 3000 yard spools, but pretty sure it was quite a bit more than that. I think you should grab a spool. I've got 12# on several reels and like it so far. Also have 8# on a couple b/c reels. Don't use any line conditioner on it. Last year was my first time using AN40. Working great so far. Got to try a small spool of Mean Green. Lot of people like it. So many good lines, so little time.
I love pline floroclear as well. Use it for cranking and trigs and soft plastics. Castability is great, sensitivity is good, line memory is not an issue especially with line conditioner. Never had a problem with it.
On 1/19/2016 at 11:56 AM, new2BC4bass said:
Don't remember what I paid for my 3000 yard spools, but pretty sure it was quite a bit more than that. I think you should grab a spool. I've got 12# on several reels and like it so far. Also have 8# on a couple b/c reels. Don't use any line conditioner on it. Last year was my first time using AN40. Working great so far. Got to try a small spool of Mean Green. Lot of people like it. So many good lines, so little time.
I just figure buy what works for a good price. That's why I've mostly stuck with Trilene for everything that's not contact or frogs. So I think I will go ahead and give the AN40 a try especially for the price.