Made In The Usa 2024

Got1Fishing reply :

So I feel like I hear a lot of people asking what to pair with this or that, but most of the time we don't give much advice on things made in the USA. What brands, rods, reels, from different companies would you guys suggest? I feel like it is our duty to help out our own country before others, but do we make the same quality products as companies like Shimano or Abu Garcia?

CiMo reply :

Ardent makes reels, a lot of people only know them for their reel cleaning supplies but they make some reels, pretty pricey though, never used one myself due to that so can't speak on their quality or performance but they are made in the usa as far as I know.

Got1Fishing reply :

I didn't know that! I know that St. Croix's line from the Premier and up is all made in the USA.

flyfisher reply :

On 6/20/2013 at 7:50 PM, CruzLCA961 said:
I didn't know that! I know that St. Croix's line from the Premier and up is all made in the USA.

The rage and Mojo series are made in mexico but the rest of what you said is true. I lhaven't found a rell that is quality and made in the USA. I look at it in a different way that while i may buy products made overseas there are a hwole lot of people that are employed for the overseas made products, from sales people to tech to delivey guys. I am all for supporting US made products but until i see somethign that is quality i am not spending my hard earned money on something just for the made in usa sticker.

Now my fly rods and reels are all made in the USA as there are more options available as it is more of a niche market.

rockchalk06 reply :

On 6/20/2013 at 8:12 PM, flyfisher said:

The rage and Mojo series are made in mexico but the rest of what you said is true. I lhaven't found a rell that is quality and made in the USA. I look at it in a different way that while i may buy products made overseas there are a hwole lot of people that are employed for the overseas made products, from sales people to tech to delivey guys. I am all for supporting US made products but until i see somethign that is quality i am not spending my hard earned money on something just for the made in usa sticker.

Now my fly rods and reels are all made in the USA as there are more options available as it is more of a niche market.

Well said!

By the time I purchase that 200 dollar reel, the US government and American people have profited and made several dollars on it. From import tax to the guy at the reel bar selling me the reel. That money is then turned around and used in the US economy. My question is though, how many products that say "Made In America" are just assembled here and made with parts made overseas?

MCS reply :

I think you pretty much got it Rock. Parts market is like any other commodity market, sure manufacturers eve in other countries do this. Parts are made in numerous places and shipped to an assembly plant in a particular country. A lot of basic parts like screws, gears, bearings, foam or cork grips etc. are done offsite at factories specializing in that part, not specific to one industry. People don't realize this.

Key is the companies QC standards regardless of place assembled, good products come from all over, china, Japan, s Korea, USA.

IMHO when you buy from an American corp that makes a product in a foreign land you still put money in the American employees that are in marketing, management, engineering, CEOs (we all know trickle down economics work) etc. really it is just the assembly line workers that are cut out versus buying Japanese and sending 100% of the $ overseas. So I take that into account as the product I buy cuts the mustard for me. Just my 2 cents

BrettD reply :

Lamiglass, castaway, st.croix, and falcon are American made rods. Well actually assembled in the USA. Most of the components are Fuji and from Japan.

J Francho reply :

I'd more interested in companies that actually employed US citizens, and contributed to the local economy. "Made in the USA" ...? By who or what? Assembled by robots doesn't mean jobs. That Saint Croix still assembles rods here is pretty cool - they employ US skilled labor. Shimano, Daiwa, Pure Fishing, etc. all have a US presence, not just in the market, but also employ many people as well.

dodgeguy reply :

falcon and st. Croix make their own blanks.

lmbfisherman reply :

G Loomis makes their rods in the USA too.

lmbfisherman reply :

As for my opinion, if a product is quality I will buy it. Agree 100% on what rockchalk posted.

moguy1973 reply :

Wright & McGill (made by Eagle Claw) are made in the USA.

Works for Skeet and Brent Chapman!!

dodgeguy reply :

On 6/21/2013 at 1:00 AM, lmbfisherman said:
G Loomis makes their rods in the USA too.

owned by a Japanese company so they don't count

J Francho reply :

On 6/21/2013 at 2:29 AM, moguy1973 said:

Wright & McGill (made by Eagle Claw) are made in the USA.

Works for Skeet and Brent Chapman!!

I don't see anything that indicates they are Made in the USA. Can you provide some reference?

On 6/21/2013 at 2:42 AM, dodgeguy said:
owned by a Japanese company so they don't count

So, the US citizens employed by them don't count?

moguy1973 reply :

On 6/21/2013 at 2:51 AM, J Francho said:
I don't see anything that indicates they are Made in the USA. Can you provide some reference?

http://www.eagleclaw.com/content/our-history

Says it right on eagle claw's web page too

http://www.eagleclaw.com/

J Francho reply :

Nothing indicates the rods and reels are made in the US. Hooks yes, but not rods and reels.

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Founded in Denver, Colorado in 1925, the Wright & McGill Co. is solely owned by Lee McGill. We continue to manufacture all our world famous fishhooks in Denver, Colorado and are extremely proud to be the only brand of fishhooks "Made In The USA!" We are proud stewards of an 85+ year American legacy and the most recognizable brand name in all of fishing.

baluga reply :

For off shore fishing, AVET Reels are made in USA.

dam0007 reply :

Penn used to be a solid reel company now it's junk. Made in China. I also remember reading Ardent is Chinese parts manufactured in America. Idk how true that is don't quote me. Lol but yea with all the politics and regulation after regulation I highly doubt we'll see a reel manufacturer of quality in the America in our life times. ...M as for rods Crowder is made in Florida they make some great surf rods. Croix obviously. not really sure who else...

Traveler2586 reply :

I came across this some time ago on a BPS Q&A page when I was given a BPS Pro Qualifier. I have not verified any of the information and therefore take it with a grain of salt; but I found it interesting enough to save.

what company manufactures this reel

asked 2 years, 7 months ago

workinslob

on Bass Pro Shops® Pro Qualifier® Baitcast Reels

8 answers

Answers

answer 1

The reels are made by pure fishing.
Same company that makes
Abu Garcia®
All Star Rods®
Berkley®
Fenwick®
Hodgman®
Johnson®
JRC®
Mitchell®
PENN®
Pflueger®
Sebile®
Shakespeare®
Spiderwire®
Stren®

answered 9 months ago

SlapShot268

- Illinios

answer 2

Bass Pro reels are made by a Company named OEM Manufacturing that outsources its production to many different companies . In the cases of contracted fishing reels for other companies they are now being made in either China or Korea . OEM manufactures anywhere from 30-75% of the worlds reels in a given year . The similarities to other reel companies are the reason for the incorrect answers to this question . When OEM is in manufacturing mode of particular reels the many different companies using OEM will have their reels run afterwords with similarities to save money by not making OEM to retool all of their machinery to produce them . Bass Pro uses this money saving tactic better than all the other reel companies out there . They then pass some of the savings off to us. That’s why Bass Pro can sell very similar looking reels to others with as good or better insides to others for lower prices . OEM manufactures reels for Shakespear ( who owns Pflueger and gets some royalties for Bass Pro exclusive Pflueger reels ) , Bass Pro , some of Cabelas , Browning ( who is being sold thru Bass Pro for royalties) , Pinnacle , Southbend , and who knows how many others and how many parts they make for other manufactures who do most of their own production . The thing about these similar reels they are all done by the specs of the different reel companies . Those specs are better in some than in others . Bass Pro gets high end bearings and manufacturing tolerances for even less than others do for a lesser model because of their volume is so much higher than others . Again they do pass some these savings on to us . And for my money I can't help myself from grabbing up some that savings from time to time . Hope that helps you out in some way . Good luck and tight lines .

dodgeguy reply :

On 6/21/2013 at 2:51 AM, J Francho said:

I don't see anything that indicates they are Made in the USA. Can you provide some reference?

So, the US citizens employed by them don't count?

profit goes back to japan.much better to keep it here if possible.loomis is not an american company anymore just like budwieser.i won't drink bud anymore because of this.if people want a loomis rod it's cool but it isn't american.

dodgeguy reply :

shakespeare dosn't own pflueger anymore.pure fishing owns pflueger.

dam0007 reply :

I pray I don't stir up a hornets nest with this but the only people we can blame for not having stuff made in America is ourselves for electing and re electing idiot politicians who bankrupt corporations with taxes and regulations. Detroit is a desolate wasteland, and all day long I see foreign cars on the road. I could go on further with examples but it just aggravates me. Just saw a post on Fox about how California is trying to restructure farm conditions for chickens. Which is going to put 1,000 of farmers out of business. So soon our eggs will be coming from China. The politicians will spend billions regulating every aspect of our lives instead of spending that money to create jobs thus losing Made In America. Here in CT we just lost just shy of a thousand jobs from gun parts manufacturers because of the draconian gun laws they passed. Guess what 3 companies out of business and 1 moving to North carolina, more jobs for China!

moguy1973 reply :

On 6/21/2013 at 4:19 AM, J Francho said:
Nothing indicates the rods and reels are made in the US. Hooks yes, but not rods and reels.

Everything in this article points to all their products being made in the USA

http://www.redding.com/news/2010/dec/04/wright-and-mcgills-fine-products-are-the-of/

HuskyKMA reply :

On 6/21/2013 at 7:45 AM, dodgeguy said:
profit goes back to japan.much better to keep it here if possible.loomis is not an american company anymore just like budwieser.i won't drink bud anymore because of this.if people want a loomis rod it's cool but it isn't american.

The good people of Woodland, WA who make those blanks and hand assemble those rods would disagree with you. Where those jobs are located is what counts.

SirSnookalot reply :

I'd buy American if the products met my criteria, mainly being quality and value. I do own an American made Avet, but really have no idea of where the components come from or even the raw aluminum to be machined. As big as Alcoa is there are other global aluminium companies that compete on both price and quality.

American made regarding fishing equipment is just a tiny part of the overall situation. Avoiding any trade imbalance or political comments, American companies whether private or public owned have but 1 goal and that's the bottom line. They will seek every advantage possible by reducing labor costs with the use of robotics and computers, offshore plants and labor, foreign suppliers, US Steel isn't even close to being as it's former self. In America trickle down means $$ for the shareholders, CEO salaries and labor last of all, CEO salaries have spiked and labor has been flat lining. Like it or not we have become a service and technology economy, not manufacturing. Even a large portion our beloved smartphones, computers, televisions and other tech items aren't made here anymore, support for them is India or Philipino based too.

Quality is an issue for most people, I spent 30 years going into various plants of all sizes, both American as well as foreign corporations doing business here. There is a noticeable difference on the floor among the different companies.

MCS reply :

Good post snook I agree 100% with the CEO salaries.

I would like to point out there is a recent trend of companies rethinking and bringing call centers and manufacturing facilities back here due to 2 main things, quality control and cost. QC has been difficult to establish recently and taking significant time and money. Also these countries are waking up and workers are requiring more wage and better conditions, governments are requiring a bigger slice of the pie.

Did you know in the republic of china a factory is owned by the government. So china gives permission to said company to build a factory, company pays $$$ and builds it. Then after a number of years the chineese government can basically come in and give them notice they are taking the facility over, the said company has to get their equip and relocate as far as it was explained to me. We just did a proposal over there were this occurred, however their new facility is still located in china due to the product produced is directly tied to Asia.

I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing more stuff made here in the states or at least different places overseas than we are used to seeing.

BobP reply :

When I spend $ for fishing equipment, I buy the best quality stuff I can afford and I don't care who built it. American company wanting to compete? Great! Build the best, better than Brand X assembled with components from country Y in country Z, incorporated in country Q, and I'll be first in line. All the talk about what constitutes "built in the USA" is like arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin - pretty much useless IMO.

Don't like it? Hope for the invention of time travel and go back to live in 1950 before the modern world developed. BTW, fishing reels used to backlash like crazy back then!

Got1Fishing reply :

Well I agree that most of us want the best product out there, and if it isn't being produced in the US, then it's our own fault. If companies like Shimano and Abu Garcia are the top makers of some of the finest reels, then I understand why we buy products made overseas.

I just wanted to start a thread where we listed good made American fishing products. It seems as though fly fishing has more options, and bass fishing has less; sucks.

baluga reply :

Don't forget the Van Staal reels.

J Francho reply :

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I just wanted to start a thread where we listed good made American fishing products. It seems as though fly fishing has more options, and bass fishing has less; sucks.

There's plenty of domestic tackle manufacturers and custom rod makers. Delaware Valley Tackle, Siebert Outdoors, Megastrike, Northstar Custom Tackle, are just a few that sponsor this website.

roadwarrior reply :

You can add Rage Tail to the list.

dodgeguy reply :

I wish there were more.

J Francho reply :

On 6/22/2013 at 12:49 AM, roadwarrior said:
You can add Rage Tail to the list.

I was 90% sure. Thanks!

dam0007 reply :

@baluga Van Staal is made in China as well.

SirSnookalot reply :

On 6/22/2013 at 8:19 AM, dam0007 said:
@baluga Van Staal is made in China as well.

Seems to be true, Van Staal did face bankruptcy.

baluga reply :

All the while I thought they kept it here. Oh well..there goes Van Staal quality.

MCS reply :

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/made-usa-journey-behind-label-112854639.html?vp=1

Interesting story that is somewhat pertinent to this thread, just thought I would share.

Got1Fishing reply :

On 6/25/2013 at 2:37 AM, MCS said:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/made-usa-journey-behind-label-112854639.html?vp=1

Interesting story that is somewhat pertinent to this thread, just thought I would share.

Thanks for sharing! I definitely enjoyed reading it. I believe they are correct when they say that the consumer needs to demand it more.

flyfisher reply :

I think consumers demand quality at a fair price and until both of those factors are met nothing will change. As a country we have turned into a service oriented society so supporting the USA in your purchases isn't just about the stickers on the box but how it got there, is later serviced and who sold it to you.

DogBone_384 reply :

I agree with JF's comment regarding buying products from companies employing Americans. I drive a Tundra and do so because my wife and I have gone a combined 28 years, 400,000+ miles with Toyota trucks. Tundra's are also made here in the states. Surprisingly, my Tundra's OEM alternator and flexible brake lines were made in the US.

I also believe that corporate executives don't give a rat's a** about 'people who go to work every day' so if my purchases help keep regular people working, I feel OK if the company isn't wholly American.

Don't know how I got on this subject in a bass fishing forum, but I guess I did.

Screw it, I'm going fishing tomorrow.

dam0007 reply :

I just posted last week talking smack about politicians. Just read in new bass mag they banned all lead fishing tackle to save a species that has seen a 11% growth in population. All the mother fun stats they showed themselves proved lead did not affect 'loons' reproduction (whatever a loon is???) yet the good old Democrats approved the law anyways. Did a quick search online and basicly throw a lead jig head and get caught and face a 3 year minimum prison sentence. ---- made in America stamping on commercial goods is being phased out by no one other than politicians.

Traveler2586 reply :

On 6/25/2013 at 8:34 AM, dam0007 said:
I just posted last week talking smack about politicians. Just read in new bass mag they banned all lead fishing tackle to save a species that has seen a 11% growth in population. All the mother fun stats they showed themselves proved lead did not affect 'loons' reproduction (whatever a loon is???) yet the good old Democrats approved the law anyways. Did a quick search on-line and basically throw a lead jig head and get caught and face a 3 year minimum prison sentence. ---- made in America stamping on commercial goods is being phased out by no one other than politicians.

Ya, I saw that article, don't recall it saying anything about Democrats though, just lawmakers. You can still fish with lead weights as long as they're one once or more, so the trolling people are OK, and punching rigs should be OK too.

I think this action is more about marketing than the Loons. The lawmakers failed to heed the reports from scientist. If everyone now needs to re-tool with Tungsten, who benefits? The tackle shops? I would question the motive of some in the conservation group and their relationship with the tungsten tackle market.

The States may be the real losers when it comes to the tourist trade. I for one will not be vacationing in any state where I can't use my tackle. So that means two weeks of no hotel rooms, restaurants, miscellaneous expenses, guide services, and the taxes that go with it all.

If my state passed such a law and I was forced to re-tool, I would purchase everything from out-of-state suppliers.

dam0007 reply :

All those who voted yay were dem

SirSnookalot reply :

Whether one agrees with a law or not, the issue is what to do to adhere to a law, not the political agenda of one party vs another.

Question is to me, do loons favor the taste of lead or is the size they like? Not being an ornithologist I don't have an educated opinion but common sense leads me to believe it just might be the size and or shape. The next question would be, are there harmful effects to these birds using other materials, again I do not have an unequivocal answer. If a bird or any animal can't pass something thru their system, wheter toxic of not there, I would think there is potential for harm.

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If my state passed such a law and I was forced to re-tool, I would purchase everything from out-of-state suppliers.

What good does it do to purchase an item that isn't legal in one's home state, it can't be used. Is selective law biding the way to go?

wormycrm99 reply :

Kistler rods and ALX rods.

Sam reply :

I have been told that Lews reels are made in the USA.

Hummingbird electronics are made in the USA.

But as J said, every manufacturer have people in the USA so you help support their careers by purchasing those products you like and have confidence and by not being concerned where they are made or assembled.

If you don't want products from outside the USA then let's get rid of all the baseballs made in Haiti.

*Hootie reply :

Yes, and I am sure we are all posting, using American made computers, and cell phones,

made using American made parts and "good ol" American technology........NOT!!.....lol

Hootie

J Francho reply :

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But as J said, every manufacturer have people in the USA so you help support their careers by purchasing those products you like and have confidence and by not being concerned where they are made or assembled.

What many don't realize, is any "assembly" here, is usually done by robots. They offshore the expensive assembly to cheaper countries. Automakers use offshore factories to do the drive trains - the expensive parts - and robots here to do final assembly. That whole "60% built in the USA, and 40% made in China" you see on the sticker is a little misleading.

If you can find a company that employs many US citizens, treats them right, and has a good product and support, STICK WITH THEM!!!

webertime reply :

Regarding what the definition of Made in America is... I come from a pretty long history in the cycling/ski/snowboard industry. You want your bike to say Made in America. Send plans to frame builder in Taiwan, China, Indonesia, Vietnam, etc. Frame gets sent to your warehouse. But components from Japanese/Chinese companies. Put the frame in a jig to make sure it's aligned (align it if need be) and paint it. Assemble the bike. By just aligning and painting it you now have a bike you can legally say was Made in America, and boy did people eat that up. I am sure many companies do this with MANY products.

Regarding Loons: They pick up pebbles and swallow them to aid in digestion. They would pick up sinkers, thinking they are pebbles and eat them and die of lead poisoning. Problem with banning lead (NY, VT, NH, Mass, Maine, etc.) is that these are G.D. MIGRATORY BIRDS!!!! They can eat a sinker in Georgia and die in Massachusetts.

J Francho reply :

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Regarding Loons: They pick up pebbles and swallow them to aid in digestion. They would pick up sinkers, thinking they are pebbles and eat them and die of lead poisoning. Problem with banning lead (NY, VT, NH, Mass, Maine, etc.) is that these are G.D. MIGRATORY BIRDS!!!! They can eat a sinker in Georgia and die in Massachusetts.

Yes, but someone point me toward ANY research that clearly shows that fishing lead contributes to the decline in population of loons. Show me a study where the ban of fishing lead has led to a decline in loon mortality. It doesn't exist. Why? Because the laws are passed using emotions triggered by graphic images of a few loons that died due to lead poisoning. What's even funnier - they couldn't prove the lead was from fishing lures.

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