Where do you think the best return is? If you could buy higher quality for only one, would it be in the reel or the rod?
Depends on the technique. Rod when sensitivity matters and reel for everything else.
Better reels make fishing more fun!
I don't really pay much attention to it, some rods more expensive, some reels more expensive.
I would buy a nice reel, just because I love the different technologies that gets incorporated into them.
It's all about what I can afford. As I get a chance to upgrade I do. Doesn't matter if it's a rod or reel.
I've always been partial to investing in the reels myself. I have reels that have been through many rods. Though it's pointless spending money on a reel if the rod isn't good enough to enjoy the combo.
For worms and jigs, I like a nice rod. But for crankbaits and reaction strikes, get a good slow action reel.
On 2/8/2015 at 12:43 AM, Penguino said:For worms and jigs, I like a nice rod. But for crankbaits and reaction strikes, get a good slow action reel.
Ditto
Mike
I fish a lot of plastics so I'll put more money into the rod. That being said, you don't want a crap reel either.
I enjoy using a nice reel. Plus I can tinker with them and upgrade stuff on it. You get to feel the mechanical aspect of a reel. You just hold the rod.
Fairly even; to me, for bass fishing, the rod may have a slight edge. Any technological/mechanical item of exceptional high quality and durability gives to the user a great and lasting pleasure that is hard to put into words. The sublime pleasure of lightweight power and smoothness. The beauty of perfect fit and finish. The pride of ownership. Admittedly, the mere perception of quality greatly enhances the effect, and such pleasing effect often exceeds the utilitarian effectiveness of the device. So, go for it.
LOL at people who use the word "investment" to describe fishing gear. Other than super high end JDM collectables and antique tackle, fishing stuff is a money pit that only goes down in value with use..................including the fancy $70K boats. The word you looking for is "spend" not invest.
50/50 on the 2 depending upon what I want to spend or can spend for a given technique. Alot of my reels have upgrades and rods vary across the board. I try to balance things out with quality reels, rods, and line.
On 2/8/2015 at 2:36 AM, ww2farmer said:LOL at people who use the word "investment" to describe fishing gear. Other than super high end JDM collectables and antique tackle, fishing stuff is a money pit that only goes down in value with use..................including the fancy $70K boats. The word you looking for is "spend" not invest.
You got that right farmer. When you go to trade up, and you get 50% to 60% of what you paid? That's not investing, that's spending.
Hootie
On 2/8/2015 at 12:07 AM, BasshunterJGH said:I don't really pay much attention to it, some rods more expensive, some reels more expensive.
Same here, just depends on what I want, when I'm wanting.
Hootie
On 2/8/2015 at 3:10 AM, *Hootie said:You got that right farmer. When you go to trade up, and you get 50% to 60% of what you paid? That's not investing, that's spending.
Hootie
Exactly why I just hang on to things for the most part.
If I were forced to only have one "nice" piece of equipment it would definitely be the reel. There's tons of good quality $100 rods now so IMHO it would be easier and more enjoyable to fish one of them with a higher quality reel as opposed to the other way around. Of course I've always been partial to reels, started as soon as I picked up the hobby.
On 2/8/2015 at 2:36 AM, ww2farmer said:LOL at people who use the word "investment" to describe fishing gear. Other than super high end JDM collectables and antique tackle, fishing stuff is a money pit that only goes down in value with use..................including the fancy $70K boats. The word you looking for is "spend" not invest.
The term was never meant to be an "investment" like in the stock market. It was meant to be used as where do you put your money and get the most return for it in the usefullness and enjoyment factor. I don't know of many hobbies people get into to invest money for a monetary investment. You still must invest money into golf clubs, hunting equipment, and so on. Just wanting to know if its better to put that into the rod or reel if a choice was made.
It's funny because I recall this question coming up about a year ago and at that time I was completely satisfied with using < $100 reels with the best quality rod I could afford. Now I'm all about the reels. I really like daiwa reels in particular and enjoy tuning and upgrading spools, gears and bearings. Don't get me wrong because I still have my share of megabass rods, but my last couple of rod purchases were under $125 each and one was $60. I still have a budget in mind for reels though which is why I love finding used reels at huge discounts.
All of the above. I buy the best equipment I CAN COMFORTABLY AFFORD for the skill level and the water access I have right now. That includes quality line and terminal tackle. It would make no sense for me to have a $800 reel on a $600 rod but a $150 reel on a $100 rod? Yep..and I'm happy as a clam with what I got. Buy the best you can afford. No more...no less.
Reel any day for me. I have found many $100-150 rods that are strong and sensitive enough without breaking the bank.
On 2/8/2015 at 1:50 AM, rippin-lips said:I enjoy using nice combos period. The reel is my favorite part though. Especially with Daiwa because you get the option to tinker and swap parts. I also like that you feel the mechanical aspect of a reel. You just hold the rod but I generally pair my reels with decent rods.
On 2/8/2015 at 12:02 AM, livewireksu said:Depends on the technique. Rod when sensitivity matters and reel for everything else.
This.
On 2/8/2015 at 2:36 AM, ww2farmer said:LOL at people who use the word "investment" to describe fishing gear. Other than super high end JDM collectables and antique tackle, fishing stuff is a money pit that only goes down in value with use..................including the fancy $70K boats. The word you looking for is "spend" not invest.
Spending for sure brother.
On 2/8/2015 at 2:36 AM, ww2farmer said:LOL at people who use the word "investment" to describe fishing gear. Other than super high end JDM collectables and antique tackle, fishing stuff is a money pit that only goes down in value with use..................including the fancy $70K boats. The word you looking for is "spend" not invest.
The word investment was meant to mean the best return for your money. If you are a smart consumer, you can do this buy buying the most durable and best performing equipment to give you years and years of enjoyment and memorable experiences. Wait until it's discounted, and at least in my case.... I could sell five of my seven baitcasters, three of which are over a decade old and come out ahead of what I actually paid for them. Technically, that is a valid monetary investment. Especially if you factor in over a decade of inflation! So.... In retort to your comment, if you were smart, you can invest in quality gear. So long as you take care of it.
But that ls probably not why we fish... We fish because it brings us happiness, and that alone is an investment in itself. Is it not?
The level really maters. At the low end reel all the way. A low budget reel can ruin an outing or catch of a lifetime. On the high end I spend more on rods because I never seem to find the deals I can on reels.
From the perspective of hooking and landing fish alone the rod plays the major role. If deciding on how to divide a budget scew it towards the rod for jigs, plastics etc and the reel for deep diving cranks. Still toward the rod but maybe less so for spinner baits, square bills etc.
I fish everything with my setup that consists of an Ugly Stik medium heavy rod ($40) and an Abu Garcia Revo STX bait caster ($200). I have found this setup to work awesome with anything such as crank baits, spoons, spooks, spinnerbaits, frogs, and live bluegill. I don't fish many plastics with it, but It works great with reaction strikes because it is stiff enough to set the hook immediately.
Reels, admittedly, but ideally, I'd like to get to the point where I don't have to choose between "investing" in one or the other.
I like the best I can afford of both.
I don't dissect it that closely. I will admit I spend more on reels I use for larger fish than the smaller ones. My rod prices are pretty consistent regardless of species. For smaller species the cost is about equal, for larger I spend more on the reels.
Like most I woud rather have a great rod and good reel for bottom contacting lures. Everything else I would rather get a great reel and good rod. I am close to getting everything equal though!!
On 2/8/2015 at 3:50 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I like the best I can afford of both.
X 2...but the reels are just so much more fun to play with.
Believe it or not you can argue this issue either way. I let god decide because she determines what is available when I've got to scratch that new gear itch, and she is the one that put that new gear notion in my head in the first place. This being said, I have found that there are some less expensive reels that meet my needs for certain presentations. For instance, for throwing jerk baits, I haven't found a spinning reel that works better for throwing jerk baits than my US Reel 240. I know it makes noise, and the cranking is herby/jerky sometimes, but that wide spool lets me throw jerk baits into the wind easily and I like that. $40. The rod I use for that presentation cost 4 times that when I bought it - 8 or 9 yard ago.
x2On 2/8/2015 at 12:07 AM, BasshunterJGH said:I don't really pay much attention to it, some rods more expensive, some reels more expensive.
Without a doubt, the rod. I think it communicates the most important thing, the strike. After that, all the reel has to do is bring the fish back to me.
For crankbaits though, I might go the other way and invest in a better reel.
In the end, I really want both to be a quality investment. If I had to chose, the rod would be my choice.
Would save more to get a quality pair of rod & reel so that one feels better all the way.
On 2/7/2015 at 11:45 PM, WildmanWilson said:Where do you think the best return is? If you could buy higher quality for only one, would it be in the reel or the rod?
I certainly invest my $ in custom rods and always get high quality reels (Abu Garcia !!) Then invest in ceramic bearings and large EVA paddle handles..
So yes, BOTH !!!!
Rod, hands down IMO.
Rod gives you that sensitivity, the action is ever so important for hook sets and fish fighting and handling ability, a well balanced rod feels effortless for days upon days of fishing without fatigue... A nice rod is night and day difference. I have $400 reels and I have $100 reels, they don't make a whole lot of difference to me.
I'm on board with the idea that the rod is the more important component most, if not all, of the time. However, I'm a reel guy. I like to take them apart, see how they work, polish and tweak, tune and upgrade. Give me a cool new reel; particularly one I haven't seen before, and I'm a happy guy.
When I get a new rod, I'm also a happy guy, but not in the same way.
I no longer try to rationalize, or justify, this neurosis. Like the old spinach eater said; "I yam what I yam".
I agree that when it comes to sensitivity the money should focus towards the rod, and for reaction the money should focus towards the reel. However, that being said my setups mostly fall into this range:
$100~ for reels
$200~ for rods
I spend more on the rod. However, that's mainly because I'm building my own rods and I like to get the best components I can. Reels for the most part I don't spend my money on anything under $100 except when buying on ebay. Mostly its curados and chronarchs for me. However, I do like to pick up good deals on rods on occasion, such as the gen 1 Veritas when they where on sale.
On 2/8/2015 at 3:50 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I like the best I can afford of both.
X3
I do like to use the best rods affordable for bottom contact & jerkbait fishing especially.
On 2/8/2015 at 6:55 PM, travis23 said:Like most I woud rather have a great rod and good reel for bottom contacting lures. Everything else I would rather get a great reel and good rod. I am close to getting everything equal though!!
this x2
You can get a heck of a rod for $100. A reel, not so much.
On 2/12/2015 at 12:42 AM, J Francho said:You can get a heck of a rod for $100. A reel, not so much.
I favor my top brand $100 rod to anything I've had at 2-3 times the price.
On 2/12/2015 at 12:42 AM, J Francho said:You can get a heck of a rod for $100. A reel, not so much.
Same here.
On 2/12/2015 at 12:42 AM, J Francho said:You can get a heck of a rod for $100. A reel, not so much.
X3
for my application....with the pre tense that I believe you pay for what you get
1, maybe 2 local tournaments a month, and maybe fish 3-4x 6-8 hr sessions a month total.......anything less than than $125 will be a waste of money, for a long lasting reel and super cheap right now is the BPS Pro Qualifier!