Quantum or Shimano 2024
JGmon3y reply :
Looking for some opinions, wanting to get a reel to put on a 7'0 MH G Loomis E6X. I've been eyeing up 2 reels, the Shimano Curado I and the Quantum Energy Pt. Recently found the Quantum on sale for 112. Which should I go with? I currently fish a Quantum smoke on a 7' M on a St Croix Legend Elite and a Quantum accurist on a 7' Carbonlite BPS rod.
Caliyak reply :
Curado
blckshirt98 reply :
Shimano for sure.
Josh Smith reply :
I've been dissecting a lot of reels this past year. Of those, Shimano seems to have the most logical low-profile setups. Abu Garcia still has the best round reel design, in my opinion.
Lew Childress's design is still the basic design for the Shimano low-profile, while the Ambassadeur designs are largely unchanged since the '60s -- they've been simplified on the handle side, have beefed-up axles with the bearings moved inboard, but are the same basic design.
I'm an Ambassadeur fanboy, but if I ever go low-profile it will definitely be to Shimano.
Josh
Preytorien reply :
I have a Curado I.....as do many others on here. We probably all agree.....you will be happy you went with it
Darren. reply :
I'll just say welcome to the forums and let
those with Curado and Quantum casting
experience chime in here. Although I can
say the Chronarch reels are amazing 
lakeannaangler reply :
Curado all day everyday and twice on Sunday's.
d-camarena reply :
Not trying to sound like a fanboy but for me its shimano rods, shimano reels, shimano line (power pro), shimano plastics (jackall). Shimano all the way, only reel i have thats not a shimano is a president which i dislike very much
Ok im a fanboy
wnspain reply :
On 7/28/2016 at 3:07 AM, d-camarena said:Not trying to sound like a fanboy but for me its shimano rods, shimano reels, shimano line (power pro), shimano plastics (jackall). Shimano all the way, only reel i have thats not a shimano is a president which i dislike very much
Ok im a fanboy
president spinning or casting?
fishballer06 reply :
I'll be shocked if anyone recommends a Quantum on here...
Scott F reply :
I don't use baitcasters a lot, but if you were asking about Quatum spinning reels, they would be my first choice.
Josh Smith reply :
On 7/28/2016 at 3:28 AM, fishballer06 said:I'll be shocked if anyone recommends a Quantum on here...
I would have recommended an older Quantum, but not the ones they have currently. The metal-framed 1310 was pretty awesome for its time. I'd still use one but got too used to anti-reverse bearings these past few years.
Josh
roadwarrior reply :
Shimano
mc6524 reply :
Not to be redundant, Shimano, but I'll add on other suggestion. If not immediately, but sometime in the future change the bearings to Bocca orange seal. It's very easy to do, and you will be able to cast light baits 60-80 feet plus.
Fishinthefish reply :
Shimano.
JGmon3y reply :
QuoteWell it looks to pretty pretty unanimous lol. Thank you guys. I was leaning towards the Shimano then I saw the Quantum on sale so I was kinda conflicted but this solves it for me lol
Yudo1 reply :
Shimano and don't look back.
TheEngineer reply :
Having owned only 2 quantums, and both of them being baitcasters, I have to say they aren't the worst reels I've ever owned. I actually love the design of their reels. Having said that, if it came down to it, I would always choose my Shimano. I say Function > Aesthetics.
kickerfish1 reply :
Shimano for me as well. Currenty I have over 25 Shimano Casting and Spinning reels from the $60 or over $400. I have had some ok Quantum reels and some that went bad within a year. The Quantums were reels between $60 - $100 and made back in the 90s through early 2000s. I am not sure how their newer offerings compare, but judging by the lack of user feedback on them I am guessing the reels may not be much better. Outside of the guys that are sponsored by Quantum, I just don't see or here much chatter about them.
On 7/28/2016 at 6:46 AM, mc6524 said:Not to be redundant, Shimano, but I'll add on other suggestion. If not immediately, but sometime in the future change the bearings to Bocca orange seal. It's very easy to do, and you will be able to cast light baits 60-80 feet plus.
Very rarely is this ever a worthwhile upgrade IMO. The stock bearings in quality reels like the Stradic and above simply need bearing maintenance done on the stock bearings. Aftermarket bearings usually help with start up of the spool and some finesse bearings may help with casting light weight lures. In some of my Shimano reels a flushed and relubed stock bearing will out distance an Abec 5 or 7 not to mention they are very quiet.
I have been more selective on upgraded bearings in my reels. Only replacing bad or damaged bearings or in cases where I am wanting a somewhat finesse oriented reel.
In some reels improved distance can be gained but in others there won't be. Seems like each reel varies in just how much it benefits from a bearing upgrade IMO.
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 7/28/2016 at 3:07 AM, d-camarena said:Not trying to sound like a fanboy but for me its shimano rods, shimano reels, shimano line (power pro), shimano plastics (jackall). Shimano all the way, only reel i have thats not a shimano is a president which i dislike very much
Ok im a fanboy
Do you have a Jackall Poison Adrena rod? TW dropped the price again so I've been considering getting one.
mc6524 reply :
On 7/28/2016 at 8:33 AM, kickerfish1 said:Shimano for me as well. Currenty I have over 25 Shimano Casting and Spinning reels from the $60 or over $400. I have had some ok Quantum reels and some that went bad within a year. The Quantums were reels between $60 - $100 and made back in the 90s through early 2000s. I am not sure how their newer offerings compare, but judging by the lack of user feedback on them I am guessing the reels may not be much better. Outside of the guys that are sponsored by Quantum, I just don't see or here much chatter about them.
Very rarely is this ever a worthwhile upgrade IMO. The stock bearings in quality reels like the Stradic and above simply need bearing maintenance done on the stock bearings. Aftermarket bearings usually help with start up of the spool and some finesse bearings may help with casting light weight lures. In some of my Shimano reels a flushed and relubed stock bearing will out distance an Abec 5 or 7 not to mention they are very quiet.
I have been more selective on upgraded bearings in my reels. Only replacing bad or damaged bearings or in cases where I am wanting a somewhat finesse oriented reel.
In some reels improved distance can be gained but in others there won't be. Seems like each reel varies in just how much it benefits from a bearing upgrade IMO.
Stock bearings are just that, as I'm sure you are aware lubeing ceramic bearings slow them down. 25 years ago when I was using an Abu Garcia 5500 I would agree, but over the last five years I've gained an appreciation on the improved performance ceramic bearings provide.
kickerfish1 reply :
I have tried various Boca and HH Studios bearings and have used stock bearings on $100 Shimanos up to the $400 Shimanos and everything in between. Adding a drop of oil will quiet them down. The only downside is that the free spool test isn't as great. I also think bearing last longer lightly oiled than ran dry. To each his own...
Tmmytomato reply :
I have over four dozen various Shimano reels so you can see where my allegiance lies. Anything from a Curado up through the Core (discontinued), Chronarch series, Metanium, Aldebaron and Calais - changing out bearings is a waste of money and time. Shimano is known for their bearings which really are second to none. If you have a slightly lower grade reel in their line you might notice a difference. The spinning reels I have are the Soros, Stradic, and Sustain, all of which I'm happy with.
As far as the Poison Adrena - I do not have one but do have some Exprides I have been very pleased with - extremely light and sensitive and many actions to choose from. I also have the GLoomis NRX rods, the IMX and the EX6 series, the Shimano Cumara and Crucial rods. They each have a place for a technique. And I certainly won't spend $500 on an NRX rod fro crankbaiting. Had I not had super pricing on a few of those I wouldn't have spent the money but they are a dream to fish with. I am very impressed with both the Shimano Exprides and the GLoomis E6X rods.
You_Only_Live_Once_Fishing reply :
I like quantum, their customer service is on point
Kidflex reply :
I have both. Still use both. In my opinion they are in the same class. Both cast well, smooth cranking and good drags. Energy cast better & the Curado I palms a little easier. Both will be fine. The energy can be had easy for $99 at Shelton's clothing. The quantums from the 90's and early 2000's did crap out prematurely. I don't think you'll have any issues with any newer quantums. I fish them hard and have no issues.
WdyCrankbait reply :
I would look for a Quantum EXO 100, it has been discontinued so, you should be able to get them cheap. Good luck!
KB Fisherman reply :
Shimano is among the very best reels out there. Their Curado is a long time favorite for many anglers, and they last forever. Got a buddy of mine who has a Curado and I can see how it has such a strong following. It may be a bit steep, but your money is very well spent.
Quantum is pretty good too, if you don't have that kind of money to throw around. I got a Accurist PT and an old Iron IR120C my grandpa gave me. They definitely hold their own, but I can see why people might hesitate to get a Quantum. They used to have very shotty quality control, and I mean that as in one reel is not built the same as the other. Paint peeling and parts going out was a constant problem for some people, whereas in other cases it was a great reel for the price. They've definitely improved on it, and I would gladly buy another Quantum if I had an extra rod lying around.
Overall, if you're serious about having the best on the market, get a Shimano. If your someone who doesn't have hundreds of dollars to shell out on fishing gear, Quantum is the way to go.
fishnkamp reply :
Between the two reels you are considering I would pick the Shimano. Before I purchased a Curado I would suggest you give a serious look to the Diawa Tatula, Tatula CT and Tatula type Rs. They are really nice reels. I have been fishing a bunch of them for 3 years (with the exception of the ct, mine is less than 1 year old). At least put 1 in your hand and play with it. You may still like the Curado but it is worth looking at. For years my favorite reel was my Shimano Chronarchs, and then I purchased my first Tatula. I have sold off my BP Extremes, and am slowly selling off myChronarchs and replacing them with Diawas.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 7/28/2016 at 11:22 AM, Tmmytomato said:I have over four dozen various Shimano reels so you can see where my allegiance lies. Anything from a Curado up through the Core (discontinued), Chronarch series, Metanium, Aldebaron and Calais - changing out bearings is a waste of money and time. Shimano is known for their bearings which really are second to none. If you have a slightly lower grade reel in their line you might notice a difference. The spinning reels I have are the Soros, Stradic, and Sustain, all of which I'm happy with.
As far as the Poison Adrena - I do not have one but do have some Exprides I have been very pleased with - extremely light and sensitive and many actions to choose from. I also have the GLoomis NRX rods, the IMX and the EX6 series, the Shimano Cumara and Crucial rods. They each have a place for a technique. And I certainly won't spend $500 on an NRX rod fro crankbaiting. Had I not had super pricing on a few of those I wouldn't have spent the money but they are a dream to fish with. I am very impressed with both the Shimano Exprides and the GLoomis E6X rods.
I'd have to agree with this statement. I've got two Curado 51Es...one Mike thoroughly cleaned and left stock...one he installed a set of bearing I picked up at a great price from the Flea Market and did a tune and drag upgrade. I'd be hard pressed to tell any difference between the two with the lures I've been using with these reels.
Quantum is one line of reels I've never used. Have a couple of their rods that I like just fine. However, given the choice between the two...and provide I could afford either...I'd always go with Shimano. Their reputation is outstanding.
Dye99 reply :
Curado without a doubt.. I have a few quantums I use as loaners. Started our really nice and solid, now have become more rattle traps.
*Hootie reply :
I have three store brand reels, BPS Pro Qualifiers. The name brand reels I have are Shimano and...uh....uh....Shimano.....uh.......well, that's about it.
Hootie
Josh Smith reply :
Dad had an old Pro4L he tried and didn't like. It was a left-side handle and he'd been reeling with his right hand so long he couldn't get used to it. He gave it to me.
Of course I'm a lefty and can't use it.
I have a friend who is getting back into fishing, so I gave him a Silver Max on a medium rod for bass, but he needed a catfish reel as that's his preferred quarry.
I'd had the Pro4L setting in in the shop for a couple years and decided to supertune it and give it to him since it has a large line capacity and a clicker.
Getting inside it, I was impressed. It was built like a tank; certainly stronger than other Quantum products I'd worked on. It was heavy, too, and the internals reflected the weight. I'd guess that particular reel will talk take a lot of abuse.
Josh
thehooligan reply :
South FLA reply :
Shimano for sure and as fishnkamp says try the Tatula! I have sold off all my Quantum other than one, use to love the Smokes, but not after heavy use too much play develops.
I'll chime in on the bearings, for the most part factory bearings that are in good to excellent condition when cleaned and lubed properly are great performers, they cast great and are silent. I have some reels that have factory spool bearings that I keep clean and lubed and for the application they suffice and performance difference of a ABEC 7 ceramic is not needed, cast heavy lures for short distances (1/2 spinner baits, buzzbaits, bombing snook sized jerk baits,etc.). However, I don't care if its Boca Bearings, Hedge Hog Studios, Hawg Tech bearings, or any other high quality ABEC 5 or 7 ceramics, they will absolutely outcast brand new factory SS bearings that are cleaned and lubed correctly if its the correct scenario, no doubt about it! So just be careful when you hear blanket statements without explanations.
Now, depending on what application is, is it necessary? Casting lures that catch wind then not so much (think big buzz-baits, spinner baits, blade baits), flipping super light lures ceramics will require less effort, tough to describe, but you'll notice when you do. Bombing 5/8oz lipless lures then give me ceramics. It depends on application and what you desire out of your setup. The quote "You don't need a Porsche to go to the corner store," comes to mind, but you may need it to win a track race or turn heads on way to corner store! Also, ask yourself if your factory bearings suffice and if they are in good shape, why replace them? However, if your required application benefits from further cast and your factory bearings need replacing, why not consider replacing with ceramics? All bets are off if you want silent bearings, ceramics lose that battle.
I can guarantee that if you take a factory new SS ball bearings vs brand new high quality ABEC 5 or 7 ceramics and you give a 7' Tatula Frog Rod, 30-50lb braid of choice, a Shimano Curado E, I, Lews SS, Revo or other quality bait-casting reel of choice and a Spro Bronzeye or Popping frog, I and any skilled caster can out cast properly maintained and lubed factory bearings. Ceramics are louder yes, you can add oil and slow them down and make them quiet, but if you do you just defeated the purpose. It like putting bald tires that are too skinny on the Porsche, you can't get the power to the pavement.
To back my statement up, I will pay your plane ticket or gas bill to my house for a 2 day weekend fishing trip (please give me least a 2 week advanced notice), put you up in my pool house with loaded refrigerator and cold beverages, and take you fishing on my Ranger Bay or Ranger Intracoastal for Peacock Bass, LM, or Snook depending on what's biting. However, at the end of your trip we will go down to the local Gander Mountain, buy a new bait-casting reel of your choice to test and mount it on my frog rod and run the test in my backyard canal/pond system, if the ABEC 7 Hawg Tech or Boca or Hedge Hog bearings (you bring Hedge Hogs or Bocas) don't outcast factory SS bearings on the setup I just described, I will go back on this forum eat my words and say that SS factory bearings are equivalent to ABEC 5 or 7 ceramics when it comes to casting distance. However, if factory bearings don't outcast Hawg Tech bearings, I expect you to return the favor in your neck of the woods or reimburse me for at least the plane ticket/gas money and come onto this forum and say otherwise. Deal? Just send me a PM and we can schedule it. It will be fun!
Here are the assumptions
1. New or like new SS factory bearings that are properly cleaned and lubed (Shimano Oil, Abu Oil, Rocket Fuel, etc)
2. New or like new quality ABEC 5 or 7 Ceramic Hybrid bearings that are clean without any lubrication
3. Same rod, new in box factory reel, and same lure setup as described above or my lipless crankbait setup. Only difference is the reel bearings when comparing casting distance in similar conditions.
4, Full casting effort is made every-time and you don't fluff cast on ceramics or ss bearings.
Why do I know this because i have run this test various times using new out of the box reels to test! Not just one or two reels, but 20-30 reels at least and it does make a difference, is it a waste of money, it depends on who you ask and the application, does it merit changing bearings out, that is subjective, but I can test my objective claims.
OK Bass Hunter reply :
If you think Abu has the best round reels you haven't fished a Calcutta TE GT or a Conquest.
gulfcaptain reply :
I'll fish a Quantum any day over a Shimano. Sorry, I've fished my friends Shimano's and will stay with my Quantums. Not impressed with Shimano reels.
Bluebasser86 reply :
Never have had much luck with Quantum save one of the older Accurist.
Do like my Shimanos, Okumas, and Pfluegars. though.
Bankbeater reply :
One more vote for Shimano.
bigfruits reply :
without a doubt, Shimano.
coak reply :
My Quantum TE's have served me well. They are a sturdy work horse of a reel, built on a solid frame. The ACS breaking can be a bit dodgy to get used to. I suppose either reel will do fine for you, just maintenance them regularly.
thirtysixit reply :
On 7/29/2016 at 6:27 AM, WdyCrankbait said:I would look for a Quantum EXO 100, it has been discontinued so, you should be able to get them cheap. Good luck!
The EXO is an amazing reel. I also own several Smoke reels and they are great. Work horse reels all the way. You can find great deals on Ebay for both models. I wouldn't get the Energy, its too gimmicky for me. The Icon PT is a bare bones reel that really performs well for a lower price. You should get your hands on one and see if you like it. Happy hunting!
thirtysixit reply :
On 8/17/2016 at 12:41 PM, gulfcaptain said:I'll fish a Quantum any day over a Shimano. Sorry, I've fished my friends Shimano's and will stay with my Quantums. Not impressed with Shimano reels.
The amount of jealously this post causes me is disturbing..... Freaking Awesome collection!
scaleface reply :
On 7/28/2016 at 5:03 AM, Josh Smith said:I would have recommended an older Quantum, but not the ones they have currently. The metal-framed 1310 was pretty awesome for its time. I'd still use one but got too used to anti-reverse bearings these past few years.
Josh
I still use the 1310 MG's . They are on old heavy flipping rods and I use them for catfish and carp .
NorcalBassin reply :
Thought this was a funny troll thread when I first saw the title. There's a live and well Shimano posse for a reason...
Dan_the_fisher reply :
For me it depends on spinning or casting, casting I'd go with Shimano, but for spinning I would go with Shimano.?
gulfcaptain reply :
On 8/18/2016 at 9:55 AM, thirtysixit said:The amount of jealously this post causes me is disturbing..... Freaking Awesome collection!
Thanks, I stand behind my opinion as you can see from that pic of how much I fish Quantum, and that's only part of them, there's also the Tour MG and Smoke 150's.
timsford reply :
I would go with shimano any day over quantum for a few reasons. I've owned several reels from both makers and all the shimanos (citica and up) still felt the same when I sold them as they did when I got them. I've owned quantum energy (several versions), accurists, a smoke, and several other "pt" reels. Almost all the quantum developed play in the handle or anti reverse bearing, and lost a lot of smoothness after a year or 2 of use. I have always like the external acs cast system that several other brands such as lews and abu seem to have copied, but other than that, the shimanos in equal price ranges just feel superior. Also I never had to deal with it, but I've heard from several guys that sourcing quantum parts for a reel more than a couple seasons old is near impossible and shimano keeps parts in Stock for several years after they discontinue a model. Given the choice of any brand I'll stick with daiwa, but shimano would be my pick over quantum, lews, abu, pfleuger, okuma, and any of the other reels made by doyo or banax
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
IMO both are good i dont use them myself but i have used them in the past.it would come down to who has parts and customer service speed.
Fisher-O-men reply :
On 8/17/2016 at 12:41 PM, gulfcaptain said:I'll fish a Quantum any day over a Shimano. Sorry, I've fished my friends Shimano's and will stay with my Quantums. Not impressed with Shimano reels.
All but one of these reels are defective. The handles are on the wrong side!
timsford reply :
On 8/12/2016 at 12:40 PM, KB Fisherman said:Shimano is among the very best reels out there. Their Curado is a long time favorite for many anglers, and they last forever. Got a buddy of mine who has a Curado and I can see how it has such a strong following. It may be a bit steep, but your money is very well spent.
Quantum is pretty good too, if you don't have that kind of money to throw around. I got a Accurist PT and an old Iron IR120C my grandpa gave me. They definitely hold their own, but I can see why people might hesitate to get a Quantum. They used to have very shotty quality control, and I mean that as in one reel is not built the same as the other. Paint peeling and parts going out was a constant problem for some people, whereas in other cases it was a great reel for the price. They've definitely improved on it, and I would gladly buy another Quantum if I had an extra rod lying around.
Overall, if you're serious about having the best on the market, get a Shimano. If your someone who doesn't have hundreds of dollars to shell out on fishing gear, Quantum is the way to go.
If you are serious about having the best gear on the market, daiwa/megabass would definitely get my vote. Some of the dc reels like metanium/conquest/exsense, the Stella and vanquish spinners, and the newest version of the conquest are definitely top of the line reels built to last. As far as the complete company lineup goes though the daiwas get the nod for me over similar priced non dc shimanos or any other brand, and my tournament ss spinning reels and z2020 will last my lifetime and my kids too unless they sell them. The only quantum I'd be interested in owning would be some of the older round reels that were made in tulsa, ok, usa before quantum decided to farm out their manufacturing to banax. The quantums are nice out of the box but I'd bet my whole tackle room that a shimano or daiwa at the same price point will still be going strong and feeling great long after the quantum has become geary feeling, screams on the cast, and developed play and wobble in the handle and knobs. And if something DID happen to break on the shimano or wear out, the part can be found. Try finding a part for a reel built by an oem supplier for a company who changes reel names/designs every year. KVD and other big name pros do great with quantum, but they can also just get a new reel if something is wearing out and I'm willing to bet KVD could out fish me if I was using a metanium and he had a spin cast reel on a snoopy pole
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