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Magnetic Vs. Centrifugal Brakes 2024


fishing user avatarCTGalloway21 reply : 

Which do you prefer and which is most forgiving?  


fishing user avatarBassinLou reply : 

I have reels that have those breaking systems, 2 of the reels utilize both brakes. I prefer centri over mag brakes. With a reel with both sytems, you have the ability to fine tune your casts


fishing user avatarfrantzracing0 reply : 

I prefer centrifigual also, basically set and forget. Im not a fan of mags one bit but its a personal thing. Many like them. I had a revo stx for a while and sold it because after a while I realized I never once turned the mag brakes on.


fishing user avatarDavid D. reply : 

I prefer a reel to have centrifugal brakes. If it also has magnetics then I'll live, but I most likely won't buy another reel that only has magnetic brakes.


fishing user avatarRaul reply : 

I have no preference for one, all my Daiwas are magnetic, all my Shimanos but one are centrifugal ( a very old Bantam B-Mag 1000 which has magnetic ), before going yadda yadda yadda with the characteristics of each and in between those characteristics there have been variations let me tell you, no system is forgiving if you don´t set it properly, with both you have to go through the learning curve, once you have gone through the learning curve you´ll see that it makes absolutely no difference. It´s all in the thumb !!!

 

BTW, I still manage to backlash every now and then and now that I´m an "expert" I make much better backlashes than when I was a beginner.


fishing user avatarCTGalloway21 reply : 

I know it has been asked 1000 times on this board.  But I have 4 Revo SX and one Tatula.  I always have issues with the SX as far as slight backlashes and fine tuning the brakes.  In love with the Tatula and thinking about making the switch.  Hard to beat them at that price.  


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 

IMO centrifugal brakes are more user friendly and my preference. I can live with (and do) mag brakes for flipping and pitching. If dual brakes have any real advantage I'd say it's casting into the wind where a bait looses it's momentum quickly.

 

The Daiwa brakes are magnetic but I consider them in a class of their own as they are progressive as opposed to the standard ABU type that apply consistent braking power throughout the cast. 


fishing user avatarRaul reply : 

Forgot to add, my old Abus are also magnetic.


fishing user avatarrippin-lips reply : 

I've owned both types and prefer centrifugal brakes because they are more set it and forget it but all my reels now are Daiwas and their magnetic braking system is way more user friendly then standard mag brakes. I rarely make any adjustments to the brakes unless there is a big lure change difference.For example when casting a rage craw with 3/16  weight my brakes are on 5/6 and spool tension is loose but when I throw a weightless senko I up the brakes to 9/10 and add 2 clicks of spool tension. 


fishing user avatarJrob78 reply : 

I prefer Daiwa's magnetic brakes.  They suit my casting style and the way I set up my reels very well.  I like centrifugal brakes over any other magnetic brakes though.


fishing user avatarTywithay reply : 

I like magnetic, but only Daiwa. With the MagZ, I can set it and forget it. I actually have to go out of my way to try to backlash them. Very easy system to use. Never had much luck with centrifugal brakes, though the SVS Infinity system is winning me over.


fishing user avatarColdSVT reply : 
  On 6/5/2014 at 2:42 AM, BassinLou said:

I have reels that have those breaking systems, 2 of the reels utilize both brakes. I prefer centri over mag brakes. With a reel with both sytems, you have the ability to fine tune your casts

As do i

I seem to prefer the centrifugal brakes more. Even though my revo stx and my lews TP have both i tend to rely on my centri brakes with both and well since all my shimanos have the svs system it makes sense for me


fishing user avatarLMB KING reply : 

centrifugal. seems like more companies are switching to centrifugal these days.


fishing user avatarBassinLou reply : 
  On 6/5/2014 at 4:11 AM, ColdSVT said:

As do i

I seem to prefer the centrifugal brakes more. Even though my revo stx and my lews TP have both i tend to rely on my centri brakes with both and well since all my shimanos have the svs system it makes sense for me

 

LOl... I have the exact reels. 


fishing user avatarJosh Smith reply : 

I like the centrifugal, though Abu Garcia's 5600 is pretty nice.

 

The rest of the time I prefer the 5000 series.

 

Josh


fishing user avatardodgeguy reply : 

I prefer abu's mgx centrifugal brakes


fishing user avatarfishguy613 reply : 

i like both, stuff like cranks, spinnerbaits, etc that i heave out there I would feel comfortable going with centrifugal breaks only. Those breaks only become effective when the spool is spinning at higher speeds. When pitching jigs mag breaks would be fine as they are constantly working, however if you want to make a long cast after pitching without changing settings thats where dual breaking really shines imo


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 

I'm a huge fan of Daiwa Magforce 3D.


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 

Lots of different braking systems out there,  I prefer dual braking reels above all else.  I have fished the Revo Premier Gen2 and JDM Elite IB reels for a long time now, and it is what I am use to.


fishing user avatarJeff H reply : 

 I'm most happy with the Daiwa Magforce Z system!  I want nothing more... or less.


fishing user avatarTorqueConverter reply : 

For all those saying that Daiwa Magforce Z brakes are great brakes, well you're right, but they are also technically dual brakes.  The neat thing about Magforce Z is that the inductor moves towards and away from the spool.  This movement is controlled by centrifugal forces and allows braking force to be increased as spool speed increases.  It's a real slickly integrated dual braking system. 

 

I like dual braking systems relying on centrifugal mostly and using the mag braking portion to shorten my casting distance to get baits on target and turning it off when a long cast is needed.


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 6/5/2014 at 3:00 AM, frantzracing0 said:

I prefer centrifigual also, basically set and forget. Im not a fan of mags one bit but its a personal thing. Many like them. I had a revo stx for a while and sold it because after a while I realized I never once turned the mag brakes on.

 

Sounds to me from your post that the STX was a "set and forget" reel without the "set".  If the reel performed so well without brakes, then why would you sell it?   :whistle:


fishing user avatarfrantzracing0 reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 1:34 AM, new2BC4bass said:

Sounds to me from your post that the STX was a "set and forget" reel without the "set".  If the reel performed so well without brakes, then why would you sell it?   :whistle:

 

First off, the dial for the mag brakes drove me nuts while palming the reel. Second, I wasnt using the dual braking system at all, only the cent brakes so I sold the reel and bought a chronarch and a revo s.

 

It wasnt an issue of forgetting to use the mag brakes, I had no need to. I set 2 cent. brakes on and never needed any more.


fishing user avatarLMB KING reply : 

for what i am seeing it looks like this thread is about daiwa vs centrifugal instead of magnet vs centrifugal. Daiwa are not the only company with magnet brakes  


fishing user avatarJrob78 reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 4:08 AM, LMB KING said:

Daiwa are not the only company with magnet brakes  

They are just the only company to do them well.


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 1:52 AM, frantzracing0 said:

First off, the dial for the mag brakes drove me nuts while palming the reel. Second, I wasnt using the dual braking system at all, only the cent brakes so I sold the reel and bought a chronarch and a revo s.

 

It wasnt an issue of forgetting to use the mag brakes, I had no need to. I set 2 cent. brakes on and never needed any more.

 

I wasn't thinking of Gen 2 and later models when I posted.  My mistake. My STX is a Gen 1.....magnetic only.  Figured you didn't need any brakes at all since you weren't using the magnetic dial.   :teeth:  Ergonomics is going to be different for each individual.  Magnetic dials don't bother me.

 

I don't have any of the new Shimano reels....E series being the newest.  I own Abu magnetic brake only reels, older Abu round reels, older Shimano centrifugal only, different brands with dual brakes and of course a few Daiwas in at least 3 brake configurations.  The Morrums are something else.  I can't set the Shimano brakes as low as everyone else does and "forget about it".  Nor can I the dual brake reels.  However, my Zillion 50th and Purple Alphas are reels I can pretty much forget about fiddling with.  They are as close to "set and forget" as any reels that I own outside of the Black Max round reels.

 

The Zillion and Alphas are both capable of pretty good distances....for me, but then so are a couple others such as the Gen 1 STX and Curado 51E under the right circumstances.  I think it all boils down to a person's personal preferences for the most part.  Someone else might pick up one of my Chronarchs and outcast the Zillion with it.  I learned on Daiwas, and seem to have the best luck casting with them.


fishing user avatarColdSVT reply : 

I lied...all of my shimanos have thw VBS system...only my Ci4 has the SVS system...like em both a whole bunch though!


fishing user avatarMCS reply : 

Like centrifugal better, ACS is the way to go. But I have two mag brake reels and they are good too. All it is is thumbing at different points during the cast really


fishing user avatarMichael F reply : 

Ill take centrifugal over magnets anyday! I also like dual breaking as well.


fishing user avatarAlonerankin2 reply : 

Nobody can even conceive of a way to compete with Diawas Magforce Z or V or 3D

Nobody can compete with shimanos VBS or SVS Infinity.... Personally,company's that combine both... Do neither very well. IMHO.....


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 8:37 AM, Alonerankin2 said:

Nobody can even conceive of a way to compete with Diawas Magforce Z or V or 3D

Nobody can compete with shimanos VBS or SVS Infinity.... Personally,company's that combine both... Do neither very well. IMHO.....

Oh so far from the truth!!! You sir have never owned a Lew's TP or Team Gold, I own a Super Duty and it is Mag only absolutely the easiest to cast reel with a large spoll that I have ever used!! The BB1 Centrifugal only I believe this reel will outcast any other reel out of the box that uses centrifugal only absolutely would have to try and backlash it. and the team Gold and TP for that matter use both, and will put the team Gold up there with any reel at any price!! You want perfection, try a highly Super Tuned Team Gold,,,,,, and forget the Ceramics, who needs em!! and yes sir I have owned most others, and have been runnung my own reel shop for 20+ years, tuned many and to say nobody can use both and make them work is well,,,,,,,,obvious you haven't owned em all!!! 


fishing user avatarAlonerankin2 reply : 

Yes Bob... You are right I do not own the latest Lews reels... Nor would I at this point and time...

I won't debate it though, so who owns lews now?

Still Quantum or some other investment firm?

Reels are too expensive for me to try them all...

I suppose owning a shop as you do... That gives you a fair amount of opportunity to at least cast them... I stick with what I like and know yields the results that I look for and/ or need...also it's a very competive business ( fishing) so I gladly yield the Floor!!! Lol......


fishing user avatarCTGalloway21 reply : 

actually this thread I started because I use Abu Revo SX's and been noticing them being finicky lately. 


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 9:27 AM, CTGalloway21 said:

actually this thread I started because I use Abu Revo SX's and been noticing them being finicky lately. 

Is this something that just started? If so have they been serviced lately? If they have did you change something from previous servicing? If not  maybe they need serviced? Or is this just something that you have noticed new out of the box.

 

I personally like centrifugal,.if I only could have one. They are more aggressive at the beginning of the cast when overrun's are most likely. This is where most, with less than highly trained thumbs, run into there biggest problems. I prefer the 4 brake automatic spring assisted  system of the Lew's I prefer over the the manual that Shimano uses, and I have never used more than 2 of the 6 brakes available on the Shimano. The BB1 from Lew's has 2 manual and 4 spring assisted brakes, my BB1 uses 1 assisted once in a while with bulky light lures in the wind I will use 2, and both manual have never been used, after trying them once, they were way more aggressive than I like. What I like about assisted brakes are, they are aggressive at the beginning of the cast like all centrifugal brakes are, but they are lighter mid and late cast.

 

But Like I said, the Super Duty uses Mag braking and for pitching flipping and casting bigger lures it is a dream. I feel it is as good as Diawas at doing what it is intended to do. But I have to say the Diawa system is more advanced. Some have said they like mag better for flipping and pitching, it is something I never thought about till it was mentioned, but I agree after thinking about it, the few Magnetic brake reels I have owned were mostly easier to use for pitching and flipping, but still did a descent job at controlling casting!!! They all make great systems today and even lesser reels from the major manufacturers are quite well equipped with useable braking systems today. I like everyone else have my preferences!!  


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 

Bob, I think you are letting your fondness for the Lews reels cloud your judgment.  Comparing anyone's static magnetic braking system to Daiwa's linear Magforce Z or 3D is  a  losing argument.


fishing user avatarTorqueConverter reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 10:39 AM, aavery2 said:

Bob, I think you are letting your fondness for the Lews reels cloud your judgment.  Comparing anyone's static magnetic braking system to Daiwa's linear Magforce Z or 3D is  a  losing argument.

 

You're probably right, but if there is a reel worth taking a look at, it is the current gen BPS Extreme.  It features a static magforce like braking system but hidden behind the inductor is a 4 pin centrifugal brake system.  The end result is something that is fairly magforce z like.    


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 10:39 AM, aavery2 said:

Bob, I think you are letting your fondness for the Lews reels cloud your judgment.  Comparing anyone's static magnetic braking system to Daiwa's linear Magforce Z or 3D is  a  losing argument.

I said the Diawa's was much more advanced, I am not a professional, but the Lew's cast thoughtlessly without a hitch and the distance is legendary???? The Diawas may work better with lures under 5/16 oz. but the super duty would never gain from it because of the size the spool and the reel is not designed for finesse casting, this is where the Diawa system's advanced Magnetic System shows its strength. Like I said for what the mag brakes do on the Lew's SD there is no need for anything else. I did not say My Team Gold does not need the Centrifugal brakes and the mag will do anything the Diawa will. That would be "clouded"!! But to think the dual braking system of the Team Gold or TP for that mater doesn't control spool breaking as good as the Diawa system, well that would be clouded!! They both make the reels cast effortlessly. One thing I do know is from many can say other brands are as smooth, cast as far, and as effortlessly, but the Lew's reel's on average do as well as any other reel on the market,,,,and many better. That is not clouded.


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 11:01 AM, Capt.Bob said:

I said the Diawa's was much more advanced, I am not a professional, but the Lew's cast thoughtlessly without a hitch and the distance is legendary???? The Diawas may work better with lures under 5/16 oz. but the super duty would never gain from it because of the size the spool and the reel is not designed for finesse casting, this is where the Diawa system's advanced Magnetic System shows its strength. Like I said for what the mag brakes do on the Lew's SD there is no need for anything else. I did not say My Team Gold does not need the Centrifugal brakes and the mag will do anything the Diawa will. That would be "clouded"!! But to think the dual braking system of the Team Gold or TP for that mater doesn't control spool breaking as good as the Diawa system, well that would be clouded!! They both make the reels cast effortlessly. One thing I do know is from many can say other brands are as smooth, cast as far, and as effortlessly, but the Lew's reel's on average do as well as any other reel on the market,,,,and many better. That is not clouded.

What kind of distance qualifies as legendary, terms like this mean nothing, put it in usable terms like yards, feet or inches.  You also stated many times that you have owned a shop and have serviced reels for 20 years, would that not make you a professional.  The new Lews are solid reels, but anything legendary about them died in an airplane crash, they are made by Doyo, plain and simple.    You might also want to investigate reels like the Daiwa Z2020 with magforce 3D braking, not exactly a finesse reel, and offers a distinct advantage over static magnetic braking.       I will stick by my original statement and say that your judgment is clouded.


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 11:33 AM, aavery2 said:

What kind of distance qualifies as legendary, terms like this mean nothing, put it in usable terms like yards, feet or inches.  You also stated many times that you have owned a shop and have serviced reels for 20 years, would that not make you a professional.  The new Lews are solid reels, but anything legendary about them died in an airplane crash, they are made by Doyo, plain and simple.    You might also want to investigate reels like the Daiwa Z2020 with magforce 3D braking, not exactly a finesse reel, and offers a distinct advantage over static magnetic braking.       I will stick by my original statement and say that your judgment is clouded.

WOWE WOWE back to earth there aavery2, get out of the clouds,,, you are talking about a over $650.00 reel  not a $179.00 reel, but it does not matter, if the Super Duty used the same braking system the the Z2020 used, it would not increase braking performance, unless maybee if you were trying to run 15 or 20# braid, which would make no sense on this reel, but if it did the Super Duty would be compared to the Calais DC or Calcutta DC,,,,, for the price of the Z2020 it should have the same braking performance as those reals. again APPLES TO APPLES! and why I say the diawas is more advanced,,,,,,,,again! But thanks for professional comment,,,,, :embarassed2:


fishing user avataraavery2 reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 12:07 PM, Capt.Bob said:

WOWE WOWE back to earth there aavery2, get out of the clouds,,, you are talking about a over $650.00 reel  not a $179.00 reel, but it does not matter, if the Super Duty used the same braking system the the Z2020 used, it would not increase braking performance, if it did the Super Duty would be compared to the Calais DC or Calcutta DC,,,,, for the price of the Z2020 it should have the same braking performance as those reals. again APPLES TO APPLES! and why I say the diawas is more advanced,,,,,,,,again

Ok compare it to the Daiwa T3, on sale now for 198.00 uses the same superior magforce 3D braking system.   You are the one who is always spouting about how your Lews reels compare to reels that cost many time more, so which is it?


fishing user avatarTywithay reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 12:07 PM, Capt.Bob said:

WOWE WOWE back to earth there aavery2, get out of the clouds,,, you are talking about a over $650.00 reel not a $179.00 reel, but it does not matter, if the Super Duty used the same braking system the the Z2020 used, it would not increase braking performance, if it did the Super Duty would be compared to the Calais DC or Calcutta DC,,,,, for the price of the Z2020 it should have the same braking performance as those reals. again APPLES TO APPLES! and why I say the diawas is more advanced,,,,,,,,again!

Having owned all of them you're speaking of, the Z2020 will outcast those DC reels.
fishing user avatarMichael F reply : 

well, so much for a civilized conversation


fishing user avatarskeletor6 reply : 
  On 6/5/2014 at 6:03 AM, iabass8 said:

I'm a huge fan of Daiwa Magforce 3D.

I would be interested in reading a review from you on this as questions regarding this system and it's efficacy come up quite often in my camp. Most are over on TT.

Anyways, as a baseline I'm not enthusiastic over magnetic breaking systems outside of Daiwa. My experience isn't grave, however a Sol and 103 steez have shown superiority over a variety of magnetic only reels I have used. Still, these systems require greater skill from the user than a centrifugal system most notably Shimano. Casting on a windy day will quickly reveal the need to control the spool to a higher degree early in the cast. It's not necessarily a downfall, it just requires more practice and skill from the user to achieve proficiency with the reel when compared to a centrifugal system.

As such, I let my friends use my Shimano 50 size reels when they hop on my boat empty-handed. However, when dialed in with adequate talent from the user fantastic results can be obtained from Daiwa's systems. Whereas, Shimanos systems you just set and forget with less thumb usage and with consistent results.

My issues come up in cheaper magnetic only systems. They just do not compare to the breaking and efficiency obtained with daiwa. They have a large lead in performance on a magnetic breaking platform as it stands right now.

Nonetheless, an interesting mix is DC reels. My Shimano Exsence DC is an absolute bomber when it comes to distance and is ridiculously easy to control. Even on short casts which I was skeptical about. And it is the only reel I can legitimately skip without issues. If only they could make a 6oz version.


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 
  On 6/6/2014 at 10:58 PM, skeletor6 said:

I would be interested in reading a review from you on this as questions regarding this system and it's efficacy come up quite often in my camp. Most are over on TT.

Anyways, as a baseline I'm not enthusiastic over magnetic breaking systems outside of Daiwa. My experience isn't grave, however a Sol and 103 steez have shown superiority over a variety of magnetic only reels I have used. Still, these systems require greater skill from the user than a centrifugal system most notably Shimano. Casting on a windy day will quickly reveal the need to control the spool to a higher degree early in the cast. It's not necessarily a downfall, it just requires more practice and skill from the user to achieve proficiency with the reel when compared to a centrifugal system.

As such, I let my friends use my Shimano 50 size reels when they hop on my boat empty-handed. However, when dialed in with adequate talent from the user fantastic results can be obtained from Daiwa's systems. Whereas, Shimanos systems you just set and forget with less thumb usage and with consistent results.

My issues come up in cheaper magnetic only systems. They just do not compare to the breaking and efficiency obtained with daiwa. They have a large lead in performance on a magnetic breaking platform as it stands right now.

Nonetheless, an interesting mix is DC reels. My Shimano Exsence DC is an absolute bomber when it comes to distance and is ridiculously easy to control. Even on short casts which I was skeptical about. And it is the only reel I can legitimately skip without issues. If only they could make a 6oz version.

Are there any particulars you would like to know about the braking system or just a general overview of it?


fishing user avatarColdSVT reply : 

Wow...buzz kill...


fishing user avatarbassin is addicting reply : 
  On 6/7/2014 at 6:59 AM, ColdSVT said:

Wow...buzz kill...

 

X2 you had to know this was going to eventually happen... when asked for a simple "vs" of anything it ends up being..

my dad can beat up your dad...  lol...


fishing user avatarLipRipper87 reply : 

I like the centrifugal braking system in the curado I , but I prefer the ACS braking system in the quantum smoke.


fishing user avatarbootytrain reply : 

Actually Shimano's DC is the most advanced magnetic braking system :D


fishing user avatarTNBassin' reply : 

Centrifugal over mag brakes all day, though a dual braking system like what's found on the REVO STX is the absolute best of both worlds as it allows you to easily throw anything in your tackle box.




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