I seem to spend most of my frog fishing time picking backlashes out. I put some 20# Sufix braid on a spinning reel and mounted it on a 7' medium heavy Falcon Original spinning rod. I am anxious to see if I can handle a fish in the lily pads with this outfit.
Does anyone else frog fish with a spinning outfit?
My friend Dan uses a IM 10 Allstar Heavy with a Pflueger Supreme , he does alright for himself. I am not sure the Heavy Action of the AllStar is comprable to that of the Falcon. He also uses braid, I am not sure what test. Hope this helps you.
QuoteDoes anyone else frog fish with a spinning outfit?
So you're saying there IS another way? :-/
Roger
if you are going to fish frogs with a spinning rod, use heavy line, use a medium heavy action rod or a heavy action rod. and if you do get a fish try to get the fish up on the surface and don't let it go down into the roots. so get the fish in quickly so you don't loose it.
I throw the Scumfrog PaddleFoot frog, which is an excellent bait but very light, on a 7' MH rod, 4000 series Spirex reel, and 30 lb. Power Pro braid. Works for me. You probably see alot of the guys don't approve of spinning gear but remember-
you're the one using it. Go with what works for you.
I guess I need some reassurance that my man card won't be revoked for using spinning tackle. I mean, it's already in jeopardy for using a net. ;D
Normally I'll grab whatever spinning rod is available (not pre-rigged with another lure).
Given a choice I'll grab my Kistler LTX II, which is a 6' 9" medium-heavy blank.
All my reels are spooled with 30-lb PowerPro. Frog misses are typically my fault
rather than any fault of the rod (striking too early).
Any stigma attached to spinning gear is over-baked, and if I'm not mistaken that's about all Fish Chris uses.
My biggest concern isn't hooking up, it's removing the hook without hurting the bass.
Roger
I fsih my buzz style frogs on a 7' medium rod, shimano stradic and 20lb power pro, never seem to have problems with this setup, and it throws a mile.
Spro frogs and buzz frogs cast well on baitcasters.......unless you are dealing with crazy wind or something.
QuoteI guess I need some reassurance that my man card won't be revoked for using spinning tackle. I mean, it's already in jeopardy for using a net.
Let's see if I got this straight, winching a helpless bass out of his hidey-hole using a Revolving Drum is the Manly Thing to do
Got It 8-) ;D
Roger
QuoteSpro frogs and buzz frogs cast well on baitcasters.......unless you are dealing with crazy wind or something.
no doubt
I use a baitcaster for my spros, and I have thrown buzz frogs on baitcasters without a problem, i just seem to have a much better distance with my spinning setups than my BC's, plus it frees up a BC for another use.
QuoteI guess I need some reassurance that my man card won't be revoked for using spinning tackle. I mean, it's already in jeopardy for using a net. ;D
C'mon...
Everyone knows you can't catch bass with a spinning reel!
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QuoteI guess I need some reassurance that my man card won't be revoked for using spinning tackle. I mean, it's already in jeopardy for using a net. ;D
i like my net. never know when youre gunna hook a toothie critter.
I always take a net, espeically if we're going to be fishing in the slop, too many pike and muskie around, not to have one.
One of my regular fishing partners always fishes frogs with spinning gear. 4000 size Shimano and a 7 ft MH rod. Works for him.
Not having a dedicated "frog rod," I have two rigs that suit frogging, neither is perfect for it, but they work. One is a 7' Heavy/Mod Team All Star spinning rod with a 2500 series reel spooled with 30# Power Pro. The other is 7' 6" Kistler XH/F flipping stick with 50 or 65# Power Pro.
Seeing a strike on a frog, let alone catching a frog fish tends to melt any gear stigma away.
QuoteI guess I need some reassurance that my man card won't be revoked for using spinning tackle. I mean, it's already in jeopardy for using a net. ;D
Don't worry. I got your back on this one.
I keep a net in the boat but usually only use it when I hang a pike or musky that would take my bait if I tried to grab it even though I have not used it to often. If you play out a good essox, you can easily grad it under the gill plate. But rest assured if I hang a 50+ incher or a really huge bass, I will definitely consider the net.
QuoteSpro frogs and buzz frogs cast well on baitcasters.......unless you are dealing with crazy wind or something.
I have no problem with Spro frogs. They seems to be heavy enough. Buzz frogs, on the other hand, have been a real pain in the butt casting. I don't have as much trouble if I am using monofilament, but braid just gives me fits. I have used both PowerPro and Sufix.
QuoteQuoteI guess I need some reassurance that my man card won't be revoked for using spinning tackle. I mean, it's already in jeopardy for using a net. ;DDon't worry. I got your back on this one.
I keep a net in the boat but usually only use it when I hang a pike or musky that would take my bait if I tried to grab it even though I have not used it to often. If you play out a good essox, you can easily grad it under the gill plate. But rest assured if I hang a 50+ incher or a really huge bass, I will definitely consider the net.
After getting a Gamakatsu hook embedded in my hand last year while trying to lip a bass on a lipless crankbait, I have swallowed my pride and started using a rubber net. I also use it in tournaments.
Don't sweat it. Us "OLD" guys have to stick together. Last year I bent over to lip a bass and a wave rocked the boat and over I went!
Good thing it was four feet of water. I stood up, reeled the fish back up and grabbed it. Then I embarrassingly jumped back in the boat and got as far away from that spot as possible.
Like its been said before, you absolutely can use a spinning reel for every technique known in bass fishing. There are definitely some situations in which a baitcaster is the better choice though, and this is one of them IMO. You certainly can fish frogs with a spinning combo but you don't get the power that you do from a baitcaster. That being said, if you are more comfortable fishing a spinning reel, then that is the better choice for you. Fish what you're comfortable with. I fish small pointer 78s on a baitcaster while virtually everyone else I know uses a spinning rig. I'm more comfortable with a baitcaster, so that's what I use. In the end, you have to use what you think works best for you.
I heart spinning gear...and yup, I'm old too.. ;D
Ive had a little success using my spinning gear for frogging..... the only thing is it depends on what kind of frogging were talking about. floating/hollow bodies.....sure. solid bodies(rage toads, horny toads, ect.) is a no go from my point of view.....
Im going to be a little on the brutally honest side here. but if mr weekend angler here.... (ME) can fish a baitcaster anyone can! You just need to find the right amount of resistance on ur reel and make sure uve got a bait hefty enough to toss a good ways...... just get some practice time in and figure it out... yes ull get backlashes sometimes.... but that just forces you to learn
My opinion, dont give up....
I have the cheapest rod and spinning reel you can imagine and have no trouble pulling bass out of the pads. As long as it's not a light setup you should have no problem.
At the end of the day, if youve had more fun with the spinning rig, than youve used the right rig.
QuoteAt the end of the day, if youve had more fun with the spinning rig, than youve used the right rig.
I second that...... i think too often people get too caught up in the name brand, type of, or cost of the gear they use than if theyre having fun.
I didnt catch a thing today...... enjoyed myself tremendously but missed every bite.
On my way out to the parking lot, a guy kinda poked fun at me for having what he called, "Walmart Gear" which is halarious because everything i take with me when i shore fish (which i had been today) is gander mountain brand. Generic Classic Edition 7' IM7 graphite rods. one ML one Heavy action. A light weight spinning reel and a 7 bearing medium fast baitcaster....... and when i shore fish i take 2 planos pack FULL of stuff in a nice hiking backpack of mine to make it easier to hike to my spots.....
He showed me his shiny quantum baitcaster. Berkley lightning rod...... shimano spinning real. and St. Croix Rod....... his "pro level Plano Tackle Management Organizational and Utility System" (EXACT AND DIRECT QUOTE I KID YOU NOT!) and made fun of me because I use "Cheap Fishing Equipment" This is the same guy who last week when I landed my lunker, hung his expensive $25 crankbait up in a tree branch because he didnt know what he was doing......
Moron..... > sorry for getting off topic, but i said that to say this......
If you have more fun with the spinning reel...... then youre doing the right thing! and more points to you if ur catching fish too! ;D
I only use spinning except for some pelagic species.
I use a piece of crap outfit for tossing frogs and it works fantastic. 6'6 med 8/14 rod, cardinal 101 reel with 10# braid, 20# leader.
For the life of me I can't understand why heavier gear is used.
QuoteI guess I need some reassurance that my man card won't be revoked for using spinning tackle. I mean, it's already in jeopardy for using a net. ;D
Heretic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You should be burned at the stake.
I scoff at the notion that nets are somehow unsporting, while all sorts of electronic gizmos and gadgets are used to locate fish. Pursuing them with 300 hp on the stern of a fiberglass tornado is somehow sporting?
Real purists would go after their quarry with their bare hands. Anything "tool" is unnatural, including a pointed stick.
This may offend some, but looking down upon others for using nets while using every latest gadget, gizmo and technology to catch a fish is more than a bit odd.
use what you feel comfortable with...there is no reason you couldnt fish a frog on a spinning set up...just keep an eye on your drag...and if im in a tournament i always use a net, even on small 1.5- 2lb fish, no reason not to use it if it increases the odds of getting the fish in the boat...
On 5/30/2009 at 12:50 AM, Olebiker said:I seem to spend most of my frog fishing time picking backlashes out. I put some 20# Sufix braid on a spinning reel and mounted it on a 7' medium heavy Falcon Original spinning rod. I am anxious to see if I can handle a fish in the lily pads with this outfit.
Does anyone else frog fish with a spinning outfit?
wow thats some big line! i use a 6' rod with 10# flouro and it works great with my spro poppers and bronzeye juniors. never even considered there was a type of rod for frog fishing.....
A couple years ago my brother and I went up to the Adirondacks in search of some smallies. Well, long story short, we ended up throwing frogs and toads of all kinds catching around 50 largemouth up to 4.5 lbs and small pike on spinning gear (6’6” MH rod) and 6# FLOURO. We had two or three breaks in 3 days from pike. We were wishing we had our big sticks with us the whole time, but we were able to get the job done.
I too use spinning gear w/ the "buzzfrogs"...stanley ribbits mostly. I also use spinning gear with rage toads. I use the st. croix mojo bass tube/grub spinning rod. I also use this same rod for casting topwaters in the dark.
Works very well and have had no problems landing bass with any of these baits.
However, I have not had to drag a fish thru lily pods or much more than a little grass, but don't think it would be a problem. I use yo-zuri hybrid ultrasoft #6 for my line...again, no real slop to consider.
Not really worried about the man card, as with the rest of you fellows, I had to turn it in when I got married and had kids.
I love spinning rods and I love using them for frogs. I tend to use the lighter frogs such as scumfrogs so I can cast them much better with a spinning outfit. Get a rod with a decent backbone and spool up some premium, low-stretch line and go have a blast. It may not fit in with some of the elitest opinions around here (JK), but I've found a cheap ol' Lightning Rod works very well for frogging. I've moved on to more expensive stuff for my other styles of fishing, but for frogging I keep going back to the 6'6" Lightning Rod. I'd be willing to put my hookup % on frogs up against most people's.
The aforementioned may not apply if you are catching 8+ pound sows with regularity, but it definitely will put nice size fish in the boat with no problems.
I have used a 6'6" XML and spinning rod a caught my personal best on a frog with 6# Cajun line after much playing the fish. It's the fish in my signature and since then have switched over to 30# Cajun braid.
I personally have no accuracy with spinning gear so i stay away from it as often as possible. Last season, the only thing on a spinning rod was an unweighted senko for skipping. I can't even come close to skipping with a baitcaster.
I'm even going to bring along another baitcaster this year specifically for those bluegill i see chilling in the shade. I should be able to pitch a slip bobber and jig quite accurately.
Besides the backlashing, i feel a lot more confident in my abilities to place a lure with a baitcaster than with a spinning reel.
On 5/30/2009 at 12:50 AM, Olebiker said:I seem to spend most of my frog fishing time picking backlashes out. I put some 20# Sufix braid on a spinning reel and mounted it on a 7' medium heavy Falcon Original spinning rod. I am anxious to see if I can handle a fish in the lily pads with this outfit.
Does anyone else frog fish with a spinning outfit?
my biggest sack ever in a tourny was 34.15 pounds and i caught EVERY fish on spinning gear. i was swimming a lizard through the pads in the everglades and i was using 20# power pro. if you are comfortable using it then by all means go for it. don't be discouraged by some of the "half empty" comments. go with with what you want.
ive caught frog fish on a zebco 33 combo. technique specific rods are often unneccesary and just another way for companies to make more money from people who think they need it.....
check this out.
that fish was landed on a spinning rod. The idea that "only" a baitcaster has enough power to land a bass is ludicrous.
If you hitched a 10lb cobia to a 10lb bass, where would they go?
Answer: anywhere the cob wanted to go.
Olebiker, the setup you proposed will do the job, no problem.
Well said .ghoti, personally I wouldn't even own a B/C, for me there is no reason to, I can do anything with spinning gear.
The list of people is endless just on this forum alone of people that have caught most types of fish using spinning gear. The only merit I see to using b/c gear for bass is fighting the vegetation, not the fish, but the same can be accomplished using 10/20 spinning rod.
Personally, I use baitcasting gear for frog fishing but it's mostly about casting accuracy for me.
If you can cast a spinning rig accurately then no reason not to use it, IMO.
I didn't know people still used spinning gear for anything other than crappie?!
On 5/13/2011 at 4:06 AM, KC ***atic said:I didn't know people still used spinning gear for anything other than crappie?!
Look at some of Fish Chris pics, my aren't shabby either,all caught on spinning. nuff said !
On 5/30/2009 at 12:50 AM, Olebiker said:I seem to spend most of my frog fishing time picking backlashes out. I put some 20# Sufix braid on a spinning reel and mounted it on a 7' medium heavy Falcon Original spinning rod. I am anxious to see if I can handle a fish in the lily pads with this outfit.
Does anyone else frog fish with a spinning outfit?
I've done it, but I prefer baitcasters. They seem to winch them out of the cover better and more efficiently, IMO.
On 5/30/2009 at 1:40 AM, CWB said:I throw the Scumfrog PaddleFoot frog, which is an excellent bait but very light, on a 7' MH rod, 4000 series Spirex reel, and 30 lb. Power Pro braid. Works for me. You probably see alot of the guys don't approve of spinning gear but remember-
you're the one using it. Go with what works for you.
absolutely, well said..
i fished with #8 trilene and an ugly stik with a culprit worm in the lilly's, had to row the boat into the thick to get them out but was fun as crap,
FYI a money minnow in the pads are deadly, on spinning or baitcasting gear, keep it high or fish it slow... but shhhhh its a secret
QuoteFrog fishing with a spinning rod?
So you're saying there's another option out there?
Kidding aside, I do everything with spinning gear including frogging & swimbaiting :
(6'6" - Med-Hvy - Fast - 10 to 20-lb - 1/4oz to 1oz)
Though 50-lb braid is probably ideal for frogging, I use 30-lb Fireline Braid for everything.
Roger
i would use my Baitcaster for the frog i just got in the MTB but sadly i dont have a baitcaster lol im a 14 year old so i live off of changing the cat litter for 20$ a month and thatl take a while to earn enough for a baitcaster
I've set up plenty of people with spinning gear for frogging. You're looking for a Heavy/Fast rated rod, 7 to 7-6", whatever your preference. You might find what you want looking at "inshore" rods, instead of "bass" rods. Fish don't bite based on the labels on the rods. Add a 5000 series spinning reel loaded with 40-50# braid, and get froggy.
any abu garcia medium heavy will frog well
I have a first generation Veritas 6'9" medium rod paired with a Mitchell Pro 300 spinning reel ( which has quite a stout drag) with 30# test braid. This works great for frog fishing out of my kayak. You don't need a sensitive, high priced rod and reel for frog fishing.
You will be fine with a spinning outfit until you graduate from your monthly allowance job to something that pays a little more and then you can afford to go with the casting set up that you are considering. You may even decide to stick with a spinning outfit.
Get your education and have fun fishing and welcome to this site; you will learn a lot here as there are many members that have much more experience and expertise than I do and are very helpful. Looking forward to hearing about your fishing adventures. Wishing you good luck.