Picked up a new 2014 Shimano Curado 200I a few weeks ago and the reels been great but I've developed what I would call a screeching sound while casting.
It doesn't happen every cast but it went from a one or two per fishing trip to a every other couple casts.
Sometimes it happens for the full distance of the cast and other times it happens for half of the cast and disappears while my baits mid flight.
It sounds like its directly related to the spool spinning and the sound changes if or when I feather or ride the spool.
Bearing?
Will Shimano send me a bearing OR should I just return the reel to Cabela's? I plan to buy Hawgtech's bearings at some point BUT it's a new reel and I really want to fix it now without spending money. I was kinda waiting til I could afford the a Hawgtech carbon fiber 102mm crank and cork knobs too!
Thanks!
Try adding a drop of oil and see if it stops. That will let you know if it's the bearing. Might just be dry. Shimano should send you the bearing for free but Cabelas will exchange it also. Basically up to you on what route you wanna take.
You should also try oiling the breaking system. Just apply the oil on the area where the break is rubbing against.
Shimano packs their bearings with grease in new reels. Take the spool bearings out and flush them, then add a drop of oil to each before you replace them. If that doesn't fix the noise then you might consider returning the reel.
I'd say there's a 99% chance the brake drum is dry. Take a couple drops of oil on the end of a qtip and coat the brake drum, it'll be good as new.
For me that noise can be the worm. I had the privalige to talk with a reel repair person from Shimano at our store one day and he told me to use a mixture of oil and grease (shimano)(soupy) on the worm gear but to keep it VERY LIGHT. On all the other easy to reach bearings use ONE small drop of oil.
On 8/25/2014 at 3:40 PM, Tywithay said:I'd say there's a 99% chance the brake drum is dry. Take a couple drops of oil on the end of a qtip and coat the brake drum, it'll be good as new.
Exactly This..
More often than not screeching noises from a reel are brake related rather than bearings. There are differing opinions among reel techs. as to how important it is to oil cent brake drums. If undamaged, cleaning them with some alcohol on a swab usually does the trick but applying a thin film of light oil won't hurt. I know Shimano recommends oiling so no need to copy/paste the quote from their site.lol
On all the newer Shimano models with SVS braking, I have found that the "screeching" sound is from the brake pipe. There is a pamphlet that comes with the reel in the box, which appears to be an after thought, as it is not part of the reel instructions.It recommends that the brake pipe be cleaned after each use, and oil be applied to the pipe, and bearing !! They go on to say that this should be done every 5 uses, or once a month. With saltwater use it should be done after every use !
My, freshwater only, experience has been to do it when the reel tells you it needs to be done
Q-tip with a drop of oil rubbed on the break cone, as suggested by others.
My Chronarch ci4 has been doing this exact same thing my past two trips out. I clean and oil this reel about once a month, so I didn't know what could be causing it. Maybe a piece of dirt in there somewhere. So yesterday I cleaned and lubed the brake pipe. And I also cleaned and lubed both bearings on the side of the spool. I'm hoping this will fix the problem.
Very good chance it's the breaks. Follow the advice above and it will most likely go away.
On 8/25/2014 at 4:43 PM, Oregon Native said:For me that noise can be the worm. I had the privalige to talk with a reel repair person from Shimano at our store one day and he told me to use a mixture of oil and grease (shimano)(soupy) on the worm gear but to keep it VERY LIGHT. On all the other easy to reach bearings use ONE small drop of oil.
Worm gear does not move during the cast
On 8/25/2014 at 3:40 PM, Tywithay said:I'd say there's a 99% chance the brake drum is dry. Take a couple drops of oil on the end of a qtip and coat the brake drum, it'll be good as new.
On 8/25/2014 at 7:19 PM, Alonerankin2 said:Exactly This..
I triple this..... when you purchased your Shimano, inside the box was a small yellow piece of paper depicting schematically, the importance of keeping the drum well lubricated, the result will effect casting distance.
On 8/25/2014 at 10:59 PM, aavery2 said:Worm gear does not move during the cast
Guess some of my reels are antique......sorry
On 8/26/2014 at 8:31 PM, Oregon Native said:Guess some of my reels are antique......sorry
Lots of round reels still have synchronized level winds, but I have not seen a LP reel with one in a while unless maybe some of the 300 size reels use one. Too much lost energy during the cast.
Sometimes disappears mid flight and sometimes it's the whole cast? Sounds like centrifugal braking is dry. The intermittency of the noise duration can be explained by the adjustable centrifugal braking, meaning that closer the race track is to the brake shoes the longer it screeches.
Flush em with an overnight soak in acetone, then clean with with a degreaser, then soak them in isopropyl alcohol for a few. Add one drop of quantuam hot sauce oil or one drop of ardent oil. If you still have problems, upgrade the bearings. I had a cheaper quantum years ago that started doing that, and this worked.
Bantam1 from Shimano says they do not pack their spool bearings in grease, but do heavily oil them before shipping.
Why mess with it? They are not supposed to be selling you a noisy reel and it is not your job to solve their quality problem.
I have a prev series Curado that is very noisy during the cast. I sent it to Shimano for warranty and it came back with the same noise that I sent it in with.
I'd mark it somehow and would have Cabela's provide a new one.
so I am dealing with this same issue. The more brakes you have on, the more the noise. if you loosen brakes, it goes away, which means it is definitely the brakes. I added oil to the bearing and brake drum but did not make a difference on mine. I will keep messing with it but this is a pain in the @#$.
Clean the brake drum and shoes with alcohol and a swab before oiling the drum/cone.
I guess some of these reels are doing this but the one I had didn't. Granted I only had it out once. I did cast a lot and I mean A LOT with it however before the trip to practice with different brake settings to see what I could do with it. It casts a mile and it's very smooth. I am surprised to hear so many weird things happening with these. It appears that Shimano put a lot of money into this product and with the perception now of these reels being if'y at best they might have a " reel " problem on their hands marketing wise. Ever since the demise of the green 200E they have been all over the place with the Curado line and now the Citica is following suit. With the prices being quite significantly higher to step up to the Chronarch I'm not sure what they are going to do with that segment of the market if those folks can't afford the Chronarch and are afraid to buy the Curado. I am not one of the folks dissatisfied so I still think the reel is great and if I go back to Shimano will buy again if it's there to buy . I didn't sell mine because of casting issues or noise..just switching brands entirely for the heck of it. Why not make a change. I can always go back. Still love Shimano.
I really enjoy these reels. They suit me perfectly. I like them so much, that i purchased 3 of them. For me that's unheard of. LOL... Before every trip, i take a qtip with a drop of oil and go around the brake drum of each reel. Takes me 5 min tops for all 3 reels, and that provides me with 0 issues during my outings. Some individuals consider this a problem with the reel, I don't believe so. They just require a little bit more love, that's all. LOL!!
I've got to get a Scorpion 1000XT before this gets out of hand.
This might be the cause of your backlashes. It happened to me right after I put a drop of oil. Then I used a qtip to spread the oil around and somewhat thin the oil out and the backlashes stopped. Too much oil on the drum reduces the friction which will cause backlashes.On 4/25/2015 at 3:51 AM, BassinLou said:I really enjoy these reels. They suit me perfectly. I like them so much, that i purchased 3 of them. For me that's unheard of. LOL... Before every trip, i take a qtip with a drop of oil and go around the brake drum of each reel. Takes me 5 min tops for all 3 reels, and that provides me with 0 issues during my outings. Some individuals consider this a problem with the reel, I don't believe so. They just require a little bit more love, that's all. LOL!!
On 4/26/2015 at 12:58 AM, bootytrain said:This might be the cause of your backlashes. It happened to me right after I put a drop of oil. Then I used a qtip to spread the oil around and somewhat thin the oil out and the backlashes stopped. Too much oil on the drum reduces the friction which will cause backlashes.
This is stop the screeching. The OP wasn't having backlash issues. This is addressed in the owners manual.
On 4/26/2015 at 1:08 AM, BassinLou said:This is stop the screeching. The OP wasn't having backlash issues. This is addressed in the owners manual.
I know, I was addressing what you wrote in another thread lol.. my mistake
On 4/26/2015 at 1:09 AM, bootytrain said:I know, I was addressing what you wrote in another thread lol.. my mistake
Ok. Its all good.
Brake drum, light oil on a Q tip and wipe it,, and forget it,,, like Tywithay said,,,, do like DVT recommended for cleaning first. But Bluebasser is correct, stripping the bearings and degreasing is a great idea use light oil one drop per bearing, and I think you will see a huge improvement in a fine reel. But the Q tip trick should cure the noise you mention.
My new Curado I came with really greasy bearings. I flushed them and oiled them, and I also ran a q tip around the break drum with the oil. It's strictly going to be a deep cranking reel, so we will see how it performs.
I had this problem with a few Bantam Curados and chased it forever. I finally found the spool ends were dry and it created some kind of awful screeching during casting. I guess it chatters back and forth. Add a drop of oil on the copper plate under the spool tension knob and one on the other side where the end of the spool shaft rests and it should solve the problem.
Can you imagine all the bashing by shimano fans that would be going on if it was a Lews reel that had to be oiled before each use? Lol.
On 8/25/2014 at 1:53 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Shimano packs their bearings with grease in new reels. Take the spool bearings out and flush them, then add a drop of oil to each before you replace them. If that doesn't fix the noise then you might consider returning the reel.
He got a noisy Shimano reel., must be a Chinese version.. He should send it back and switch to Lews.
On 10/25/2015 at 11:20 AM, WPCfishing said:He got a noisy Shimano reel., must be a Chinese version.. He should send it back and switch to Lews.
Shimano isn't made in China.
On 10/25/2015 at 1:52 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Shimano isn't made in China.
Yes they are. Depends on the model.
On 10/25/2015 at 2:55 PM, WPCfishing said:Yes they are. Depends on the model.
Malaysia or Japan is where all mine were made (various models of spinning and casting). I did a bunch of searching and could find nothing about any Shimano reels being made in China. Wouldn't be surprised if some components were made there but I'd be really surprised if there's any reels out there that don't have something that was made in China in them.
My second post on here. Earlier this past summer I bought two new Curado 200 I reels, one 6 ratio and the other a 7 ratio. There is a slip of yellow paper that tells you to oil the brakes and number two bearing every five times. Just do it if there is any sound. I have never oiled them and they have never made any sound. I like Shimano products, they are made in Shimano factories by Shimano employees be it in Japan or Malaysia. I ride their stuff on my bicycles for years, have their cycling shoes and equipment, their derailleur sets on several bicycles, I trust them and like them. I also have a Bantam reel I bought back around 92 or so. Still use it.
J
I have said this several times already. Yes, several individuals have found this small detail to bash Shimano further, but hey... to each their own. But... if you follow the directions that's contained in the reels manual and simply oil the drum every few trips, your new reel will treat you well for a very long time.
On 10/25/2015 at 9:47 PM, BassinLou said:I have said this several times already. Yes, several individuals have found this small detail to bash Shimano further, but hey... to each their own. But... if you follow the directions that's contained in the reels manual and simply oil the drum every few trips, your new reel will treat you well for a very long time.
I oiled mine maybe three times this season. Even then it wasn't squeaking. If you dislike maintenance, "NEVER" buy a house. Rent an apartment....lol.
Hootie
On 10/25/2015 at 9:05 AM, k3bass said:Can you imagine all the bashing by shimano fans that would be going on if it was a Lews reel that had to be oiled before each use? Lol.
On 10/25/2015 at 11:20 AM, WPCfishing said:He got a noisy Shimano reel., must be a Chinese version.. He should send it back and switch to Lews.
On 10/25/2015 at 1:52 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Shimano isn't made in China.
On 10/25/2015 at 3:55 PM, 3crows said:My second post on here. Earlier this past summer I bought two new Curado 200 I reels, one 6 ratio and the other a 7 ratio. There is a slip of yellow paper that tells you to oil the brakes and number two bearing every five times. Just do it if there is any sound. I have never oiled them and they have never made any sound. I like Shimano products, they are made in Shimano factories by Shimano employees be it in Japan or Malaysia. I ride their stuff on my bicycles for years, have their cycling shoes and equipment, their derailleur sets on several bicycles, I trust them and like them. I also have a Bantam reel I bought back around 92 or so. Still use it.
J
On 10/25/2015 at 9:47 PM, BassinLou said:I have said this several times already. Yes, several individuals have found this small detail to bash Shimano further, but hey... to each their own. But... if you follow the directions that's contained in the reels manual and simply oil the drum every few trips, your new reel will treat you well for a very long time.
I've read articles that mention some of the reels are made in China.. maybe the writer was wrong. Personally I don't mind where they are made. As far as bashing goes, I haven't seen many post anywhere in the forum that insult Shimano. My reply referring to the OP returning the Shimano and switching to Lews was a tease.. Not meant to stir up sheat to make it stink.. lol
I suppose if there has been a lot of bashing it would be cause for Shimano owners to feel insulted rather than chuckle after reading my post. Sorry about that fella's. Also let me add: Shimano was the company that built the original Lews reels. If not for them Lews may never had developed the brand. Shimano has always been a quality product driven company.
On 10/25/2015 at 10:15 PM, *Hootie said:I oiled mine maybe three times this season. Even then it wasn't squeaking. If you dislike maintenance, "NEVER" buy a house. Rent an apartment....lol.
Hootie
I wouldn't consider having to oil the brakes every use or every three uses "maintenance". More like fixing a problem that shimano should have solved to begin with.
I'm at Cabela's look at gear right now.. They're inventory sucks..
On 10/26/2015 at 12:09 AM, k3bass said:I wouldn't consider having to oil the brakes every use or every three uses "maintenance". More like fixing a problem that shimano should have solved to begin with.
As I said, it's never been a problem.
Hootie
On 10/26/2015 at 12:09 AM, k3bass said:I wouldn't consider having to oil the brakes every use or every three uses "maintenance". More like fixing a problem that shimano should have solved to begin with.
Oiling a brake drum ( hub ) is a problem? Lucky for you Lews makes reels in China..
On 10/25/2015 at 9:05 AM, k3bass said:Can you imagine all the bashing by shimano fans that would be going on if it was a Lews reel that had to be oiled before each use? Lol.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/134171-chronarch-ci4-vs-lews-bb1-pro/?p=1528223
See above post--I had a BB1 Pro that the brakes made a screeching sound and read of others having the same issue. I oiled the brake drum but also had other issues that caused me to return the reel. I only oil my CI4 drum when the distance starts getting less and the braking is getting more pronounced it doesnt actually screech at all. And if I did have to oil every outing I would complain about it but it just isnt the case far from it.
On 10/26/2015 at 5:12 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Oiling a brake drum ( hub ) is a problem? Lucky for you Lews makes reels in China..
My lews are made in Korea.
On 10/26/2015 at 6:13 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/134171-chronarch-ci4-vs-lews-bb1-pro/?p=1528223
See above post--I had a BB1 Pro that the brakes made a screeching sound and read of others having the same issue. I oiled the brake drum but also had other issues that caused me to return the reel. I only oil my CI4 drum when the distance starts getting less and the braking is getting more pronounced it doesnt actually screech at all. And if I did have to oil every outing I would complain about it but it just isnt the case far from it.
There's a new thread on here every few days about screeching noise during the cast with the new curado. I've owned dozens of shimano casting reels in the past and never had to oil the brake drum on any of them. Never had to oil any of the brakes on my lews or daiwa reels either.
I oil all my cent brake drums no matter the brand about monthly they cast much better that way.
On 10/26/2015 at 8:42 AM, k3bass said:There's a new thread on here every few days about screeching noise during the cast with the new curado. I've owned dozens of shimano casting reels in the past and never had to oil the brake drum on any of them. Never had to oil any of the brakes on my lews or daiwa reels either.
You get a lot more breaking pressure being applied to SVS Infinity than regular SVS I think. Breaks have much higher surface area than previous ones.