Cabelas Just Pushed Bps In The Mud An Stole His Girlfriend. 2024
webertime reply :
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Home/Cabelas-Reels%7C/pc/105625080/c/508746780/Cabelas-Prodigyreg-Baitcasting-Reel/1749495.uts?destination=%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FcategoryId%3D508746780%26WTz_l%3DUnknown%253Bcat104793480&WTz_l=Unknown%3Bcat104793480%3Bcat508746780
A white Lexa with Magforce Z.... $100.
So maybe the girlfriend was already looking for a reason to leave and cabelas was a convenient reason to end it... but... those sure are serious competition for the Pro Qualifier.
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BASSclary reply :
Second one looks like an aird copy, not a lexa to me. First one looks good to me, but the spool looks kinda deep, but I only looked at pictures because I'm on my phone
webertime reply :
Didn't even notice the composite frame (duh) on the second. The first ones spool profile looks like my Lexa's. (Deleted)
Trey Harpel reply :
Exceler more than likely.,
Aird
cddan reply :
thankx my new favorite bargain. Wanted a Lexa but also prefer the magforce z style of breaking.If anybody buys one of these I would be interested in how they like it. Keep us posted.
Loop_Dad reply :
Can they fit Mag-z instead of regular mag? That sounds like lots of work for Daiwa...
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
Daiwa exceler sales are going to go way down after this.. Can't believe Daiwa put mag z in this reel.
webertime reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 9:10 AM, Trey Harpel said:Exceler more than likely.,
Aird
What's the difference (serious question) between the Lexa and Exceler? Color, a bearing and... side plate?
Megastink reply :
I have something to add to this conversation..... LEWS! That is all.....
Duckbutter100 reply :
I called about the exceler when it was on sale last week.($44). I wanted a lefty but they didnt have any listed on the site. The lady told me those reels were discountinued so she could not order a lefty for me.
webertime reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 10:07 AM, Megastink said:I have something to add to this conversation..... LEWS! That is all.....
Hijacking like the Palestinians in the 1970's... well done! 
Mckinney24v reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 10:11 AM, Duckbutter100 said:I called about the exceler when it was on sale last week.($44). I wanted a lefty but they didnt have any listed on the site. The lady told me those reels were discountinued so she could not order a lefty for me.
That's because it's the old version of the exceler. The new model is a league ahead of the old one, imo.
Grantman83 reply :
The difference between the new exceller and lexa is 4 bearings in the handle. Other than that I think they are basically the same
Darren. reply :
Interesting...
What Grantman said is what I understand the differences to be. Not the Magforce Z, tho. That looks like something new.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
The difference between the lexa and the exceler are a few bearings, a different paint job obviously, and an aluminum handle sideplate..
The exceler has a composite handle sideplate.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 9:19 AM, Loop_Dad said:Can they fit Mag-z instead of regular mag? That sounds like lots of work for Daiwa...
I doubt mag z costs much more than magforce.. It is all about the selling point for the higher end reels. Mag z used to be in all of daiwa's reels, low and high end, but they just recently starting using magforce (standard) in their lower end reels.
Loop_Dad reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 10:40 AM, aprw1 said:I doubt mag z costs much more than magforce.. It is all about the selling point for the higher end reels. Mag z used to be in all of daiwa's reels, low and high end, but they just recently starting using magforce (standard) in their lower end reels.
I was actually not talking about the cost of the break itself, but to redesign the cover to put it just for Cabelas.
I'm sure the dimensions are different between the two. If I had Cabelas close by, I'll go there and open up the reel to see.
OR, maybe we are seeing next version of Lexa. idk.
Darren. reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 10:46 AM, Loop_Dad said:
OR, maybe we are seeing next version of Lexa. idk.
That is my guess, too. With the Exceler and Tatula, it seems the Lexa is not needed. Something has to separate it from the Exceler. Perhaps that's the Magforce-Z and 10 bearings. Dunno. Anyone's guess.
lmbfisherman reply :
I don't get the hype, guess I'm not impressed? Personally I like my PQs over my Lexas.
aavery2 reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 10:46 AM, Loop_Dad said:I was actually not talking about the cost of the break itself, but to redesign the cover to put it just for Cabelas.
I'm sure the dimensions are different between the two. If I had Cabelas close by, I'll go there and open up the reel to see.
OR, maybe we are seeing next version of Lexa. idk.
I don't think anything changes on the sideplate, the difference is the inductor on the spool.
aavery2 reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 10:40 AM, aprw1 said:I doubt mag z costs much more than magforce.. It is all about the selling point for the higher end reels. Mag z used to be in all of daiwa's reels, low and high end, but they just recently starting using magforce (standard) in their lower end reels.
There have been a few reels recently that did not use Magforce Z style braking. The Sol uses Magforce V, and the Veinto uses standard Magforce braking. A lot of the guys that play with tuning reels and spools have started locking the Magforce Z inductors to create a spool that is like standard Magforce. It is suppose to tame the reel down a little and provide more predictable casting in certain applications.
aavery2 reply :
Does anyone know if the spool in these reels is the free floating version, or the solid shaft design.
aavery2 reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 11:08 AM, lmbfisherman said:I don't get the hype, guess I'm not impressed? Personally I like my PQs over my Lexas.
Updated braking system and a 30 dollar price break over retail to retail pricing. Not bad for those that like the Lexa, certainly makes the comparison between the Tatula andLexa/Prodigy a little more interesting now.
smalljaw67 reply :
For those that never saw the original Cabelas reels the last time Daiwa made them I'll let you know what the deal was. The gray Prodigy was really close to the Advantage, I still have mine and it was hands down the best $99.00 reel available, way above price point in quality. Then they came out with the B series which was supposed to be above the Exceler but lower than the Aggrest, it wasn't very good. They had a spinning reel, the Tournament ZX, it was white and had Daiwa logos all over it, the specs were identical to the Tierra with the difference being the Cabelas version had a power T knob and all regular bearings were the Tierra had 2 corrosion resistant bearings but the counts were the same, I grabbed one when they discontinued them for $40 and I'm sorry I didn't buy 10 more. I usually use casting reels in the $120 to $270 price range, I have 1 that goes over and 1 that is below which happens to be the old gray Prodigy, that said, I'll take a ride to Cables and check these out but considering what Daiwa has made for them in the past I would not be afraid to bet that these will be right smack in between the Lexa and Exceler with only a small tweak to make them different.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
The only complaint i have is the huge spool capacity/deep spool.. I don't understand why Daiwa insists on keeping such a large spool capacity..
Goose52 reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 9:56 PM, aprw1 said:The only complaint i have is the huge spool capacity/deep spool.. I don't understand why Daiwa insists on keeping such a large spool capacity..
Yeah - X2. I have been fascinated by some of the latest Daiwa products...but the line capacity thing doesn't fit my needs. If all I used was 14-17lb test it would be a good deal but I do most of my fishing with 10lb and thats just toooo much capacity with 10lb. Wish they would come up with smaller capacity models.
kschultz76 reply :
If you have liked Cabelas Daiwa offerings in the past you should check out the new Cabelas Verano spinning reel. Based on the specs it looks like a Ballistic with an extra bearing and at 50 bucks less. I think it's why they are selling the Procyon at such a discount right now.
webertime reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 10:46 AM, Loop_Dad said:I was actually not talking about the cost of the break itself, but to redesign the cover to put it just for Cabelas.
I'm sure the dimensions are different between the two. If I had Cabelas close by, I'll go there and open up the reel to see.
OR, maybe we are seeing next version of Lexa. idk.
I don't think it's the cover/magnets that need to change, it's the spool. The magnets are in their own part that just bolts/screws to the sideplate. For reference:
The original Daiwa Viento was regular Magforce.
The Daiwa Smak was a very similar reel with Centrifugal brakes.
Today the Viento is still available in Europe, using Magforce Z.
All are basically the same real with differnet brakes.
Daiwa produces x # of Lexas or Excelers and HOPES to sell them (IE set a higher retail to cover the cost/risk of sitting on stock that doesn't sell well). Cabelas asks for y # of Prodigys, to Daiwa those are ALREADY sold when they are put into production, so their cost is lower and Cabelas can charge what they want. I hope that makes as much sense as it does in my head.
ChiCityBasser reply :
I have the older Prodigy reel and it was a great buy and with the new Cabelas Verano reel I may be getting that one as well in the high speed lefty version.
aavery2 reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 10:37 PM, Goose52 said:Yeah - X2. I have been fascinated by some of the latest Daiwa products...but the line capacity thing doesn't fit my needs. If all I used was 14-17lb test it would be a good deal but I do most of my fishing with 10lb and thats just toooo much capacity with 10lb. Wish they would come up with smaller capacity models.
Use your old braid or a heavy mono backing, that way you can put as little or as much 10#line as you like.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 1/18/2014 at 12:11 AM, webertime said:I don't think it's the cover/magnets that need to change, it's the spool. The magnets are in their own part that just bolts/screws to the sideplate. For reference:
The original Daiwa Viento was regular Magforce.
The Daiwa Smak was a very similar reel with Centrifugal brakes.
Today the Viento is still available in Europe, using Magforce Z.
All are basically the same real with differnet brakes.
Daiwa produces x # of Lexas or Excelers and HOPES to sell them (IE set a higher retail to cover the cost/risk of sitting on stock that doesn't sell well). Cabelas asks for y # of Prodigys, to Daiwa those are ALREADY sold when they are put into production, so their cost is lower and Cabelas can charge what they want. I hope that makes as much sense as it does in my head.
This is correct. The spool is the only thing that changes in this switch from mag to mag z. The sideplate will very likely be the same size..
Goose52 reply :
On 1/18/2014 at 12:43 AM, aavery2 said:Use your old braid or a heavy mono backing, that way you can put as little or as much 10#line as you like.
Yup - that would work and the concept of backing is well known.
That still doesn't make it a "right-size" reel for my purposes...
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
I've worked on some Lexas and was under-whelmed. At that pricepoint the PQ is a better value IMO.
Loop_Dad reply :
On 1/18/2014 at 1:51 AM, aprw1 said:This is correct. The spool is the only thing that changes in this switch from mag to mag z. The sideplate will very likely be the same size..
It would make an interesting modification for Lexa owners, if you can just buy mag z spool and swap.
aavery2 reply :
On 1/18/2014 at 2:42 AM, Goose52 said:Yup - that would work and the concept of backing is well known.
That still doesn't make it a "right-size" reel for my purposes...
So what 99 dollar reel do you use now that is the right size? They make a lot of reels that have a shallow spool and are designed for light line, but most are considerable more than 99 dollars.
cddan reply :
If it had the free floating spool it would be good for my purposes.I like how far the free floating spool can cast a heavy lure. Reading the Cabelas description it doesn't say.
Goose52 reply :
On 1/18/2014 at 7:13 AM, aavery2 said:So what 99 dollar reel do you use now that is the right size? They make a lot of reels that have a shallow spool and are designed for light line, but most are considerable more than 99 dollars.
I wasn't aware that any price point had been introduced...
Daiwa has some nifty new reels (in all sorts of price ranges) but it seems that they have adopted a capacity of 120yd/14lb as "standard" - T3, Lexa 100, Tatula 100. That's equivalent to about 145-150yds of 10lb. Some anglers, including myself, would like to see a smaller capacity model. It doesn't cost more to build a smaller capacity reel - but Daiwa would have to feel that there is a big enough market to warrant tooling up, and maintaining spares, for an additional model in the product line.
Similar situation on the Shimano side. Capacity of the CiticaE and Curado200E was listed as 155yd/10lb. Too much for my 10lb applications....but ideal for 14 or 17lb applications. Then, Shimano released their 50 size line (US market Core and Curado 50). Instant hits - people love them.
I guess what many people are looking for is the replacement for the Daiwa Sol - capacity 105yd/10lb. Perfect. Perhaps Daiwa will eventually think so too...or not.
aavery2 reply :
I was assuming we were comparing reels similar to the one the topic was about, so I tried to offer a solution that might make a 99 dollar reel meet your needs. If there is not a price range then it opens a lot of options.On 1/18/2014 at 8:42 AM, Goose52 said:I wasn't aware that any price point had been introduced...
Daiwa has some nifty new reels (in all sorts of price ranges) but it seems that they have adopted a capacity of 120yd/14lb as "standard" - T3, Lexa 100, Tatula 100. That's equivalent to about 145-150yds of 10lb. Some anglers, including myself, would like to see a smaller capacity model. It doesn't cost more to build a smaller capacity reel - but Daiwa would have to feel that there is a big enough market to warrant tooling up, and maintaining spares, for an additional model in the product line.
Similar situation on the Shimano side. Capacity of the CiticaE and Curado200E was listed as 155yd/10lb. Too much for my 10lb applications....but ideal for 14 or 17lb applications. Then, Shimano released their 50 size line (US market Core and Curado 50). Instant hits - people love them.
I guess what many people are looking for is the replacement for the Daiwa Sol - capacity 105yd/10lb. Perfect. Perhaps Daiwa will eventually think so too...or not.
The newer Daiwa reels have not followed the standard 100/103/105 sized spools,to bad cause it would open up some nice aftermarket spool options. You could always drop the 800 for a T3 air 55 yards of 6lb test, not practical for most of us. The Sol and Pixy come up for sale every now and then, the Alphas was a nice platform that might work also. Hopefully we will see a version of one of these newer reels or one yet to be released in a more finesse appropriate size.
Goose52 reply :
On 1/18/2014 at 9:05 AM, aavery2 said:I was assuming we were comparing reels similar to the one the topic was about, so I tried to offer a solution that might make a 99 dollar reel meet your needs. If there is not a price range then it opens a lot of options.
The newer Daiwa reels have not followed the standard 100/103/105 sized spools,to bad cause it would open up some nice aftermarket spool options. You could always drop the 800 for a T3 air 55 yards of 6lb test, not practical for most of us. The Sol and Pixy come up for sale every now and then, the Alphas was a nice platform that might work also. Hopefully we will see a version of one of these newer reels or one yet to be released in a more finesse appropriate size.
I already have a Sol, two Pixys, and a PX Type R - don't need to shop for those. I'm familiar with the T3 Air but hadn't given it any consideration for my 10lb applications since it would only hold about 40yds... 
Anyway, my original post was a comment not about the old models...but the new ones. Big capacity; no smaller capacity option. Too bad.
I will probably eventually get a Tatuala as I want to play with the t-wing system...just would prefer the option of a smaller capacity model.
aavery2 reply :
On 1/18/2014 at 9:58 AM, Goose52 said:I already have a Sol, two Pixys, and a PX Type R - don't need to shop for those. I'm familiar with the T3 Air but hadn't given it any consideration for my 10lb applications since it would only hold about 40yds...
Anyway, my original post was a comment not about the old models...but the new ones. Big capacity; no smaller capacity option. Too bad.
I will probably eventually get a Tatuala as I want to play with the t-wing system...just would prefer the option of a smaller capacity model.
I have heard rumor and seen picture of a reported JDM Tatula that uses what appears to be a spool similar to the HLC spool. There was also a link to a Japanese site with a blurred out picture of what appeared to be a smaller version of the Tatula. Guess we will have to wait and see if becomes available. Hopefully Avail or someone will create a shallow spool for the Tatula.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
I too am un-impressed by the lexa.. The internals were not impressive, specifically the low quality bearings, lack of bearing under CC knob, weak yoke springs, and a few other things..
Hogsticker reply :
Man has this topic strayed a bit, but then again the title was a little odd to begin with. Should have just read new Cabelas reel. Daiwa and Shimano build around what they assume is warranted and wanted by U.S anglers, hence the deep spools. Look on the Japanese side and you will find just the opposite. I do agree however, bring a new Sol type platform to the U.S market. What I don't like about Cabelas, the one in my neck of the woods anyhow, is that they stock and push Cabelas house brand items more so than anything else, plus they drove everybody else out of business. For those who are Cabelas loyalists, I'm glad to see that they are using Daiwa again rather than Quantum. Though the new Verano casting reel appears to be an Okuma Helios.
aavery2 reply :
Went to Cabelas yesterday to check out the new reels. Our store here in Wichita did not have either in stock yet. Said they should have received them on the 1st but were still waiting. I asked if they had many people asking about them, the clerk told me that I was one of the first.
21farms reply :
that's gotta be the funniest topic title i've read in a long time...well done, webertime 
even before opening the thread, i already figured it was about cabela's new house-brand reels. i'm not excited about the baitcasters but that verano spinning reel sure looks good.
Jeff H reply :
On 1/17/2014 at 11:39 PM, kschultz76 said:If you have liked Cabelas Daiwa offerings in the past you should check out the new Cabelas Verano spinning reel. Based on the specs it looks like a Ballistic with an extra bearing and at 50 bucks less. I think it's why they are selling the Procyon at such a discount right now.
I'll have one (or more) of these Verano spinning reels before season opens here. They look great! I can see these replacing my entire spinning collection.
I have one of the old Prodigy spinning reels (by Daiwa) and 5 of the white Tournament ZX spinning reels (by Daiwa) and they have been excellent.in both performance and value.
LivewellHero reply :
I'm wondering how they can even call this a Cabela's reel? Everything about it is Daiwa!
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 1/21/2014 at 7:30 AM, LivewellHero said:I'm wondering how they can even call this a Cabela's reel? Everything about it is Daiwa!
Daiwa "engineers" them for Cabela's.. So pretty much Daiwa makes them for Cabela's.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
Cabela's updated their site, and the reels engineered by daiwa do NOT have mag z.. They must have made a mistake.
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