Do any of you use baitcasters for T.R.D neds? 2025
EGbassing reply :
I used to use a spinning rod for my ned rigs but I want to try them again so I'm trying to use one on my SLX reel tomorrow. Does anybody else fish these on a casting reel?
jbsoonerfan reply :
Yep, Shimano Scorpion BFS XG on a 6'8" M rod with 15 lb braid.
EGbassing reply :
On 5/25/2019 at 11:15 AM, jbsoonerfan said:Yep, Shimano Scorpion BFS XG on a 6'8" M rod with 15 lb braid.
I just picked up some 8 lb. p-line floroclear for it. Never used copolymer before but so far it handles really well.
jbsoonerfan reply :
I have my spool tension knob set super loose and mostly roll cast with it.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
Yes, they skip very easily with bc reels too. I use 10 pound braid and mostly 1/20oz jighead.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
On 5/25/2019 at 12:00 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Yes, they skip very easily with bc reels too. I use 10 pound braid and mostly 1/20oz jighead.
What type 1/20oz jig head? I wanted to try swimZ and TRD on 1/20oz but I only got ball jig head in 1gram and 1.5 grams.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 5/25/2019 at 11:17 AM, EGbassing said:I just picked up some 8 lb. p-line floroclear for it. Never used copolymer before but so far it handles really well.
I didn't like Floroclear. 10# broke way too easy. Some others on here have also mentioned having problems with it. I can highly recommend AN40.
dodgeguy reply :
10 pound Sufix Advance on a lews tournament pro on a 7 foot medium Johnny Morris Patriot rod. 1/5. Oz trd zman jighead.
Jig Man reply :
I have 1 bc setup for Ned rig fishing. It is a Shimano Curado 70 loaded with 6 # fluorocarbon line mounted on a Gloomis Bronzeback 6'9" ml rod. I make my own heads and use 3/32 oz and heavier heads on it.
NYWayfarer reply :
10# Berkley Big Game on a Lew’s Mach 1 reel, 6’, 10” med/hvy Mach 1 rod, 1/8 oz. Berkley half head jig. Works great.
frogflogger reply :
It can be done easy enough but Why?
DogBone_384 reply :
I use a Pixy 68 on a Kistler ML/F and it nearly spools out every time.
EGbassing reply :
On 5/25/2019 at 11:18 AM, jbsoonerfan said:I have my spool tension knob set super loose and mostly roll cast with it.
Does the scorpion have cent. brakes? I was getting 25yd.~ casts today with a 1/16th head. Caught a solid 3.5er after not catching anything in weeks so that was good too. The ned really does work that well I guess.
On 5/25/2019 at 8:02 PM, frogflogger said:It can be done easy enough but Why?
My old ned spinning reel isn't in working order anymore. ????
On 5/25/2019 at 6:22 PM, new2BC4bass said:I didn't like Floroclear. 10# broke way too easy. Some others on here have also mentioned having problems with it. I can highly recommend AN40.
It worked out really well for me today. It was as sensitive as any flourocarbon I've used, I think. 8# test held up for pulling a good sized one out of cover so it's strong enough for me.
On 5/25/2019 at 6:43 PM, dodgeguy said:10 pound Sufix Advance on a leash tournament pro on a 7 foot medium Johnny Morris Patriot rod. 1/5. Oz trd zman jighead.
Have you ever tried lighter heads? It seems the lighter the head the more you catch.
dodgeguy reply :
Not yet.
BaitFinesse reply :
I use 1/10 and 1/20 heads on casting gear. I use 3 inches of a Huka Stick over a TRD though but they basically weigh the same. I sometimes fish the long shank 1/10 head and a full Hula Stick.
I use the rod in back for 90% of my Neds with 1/10 oz heads. It's a Daiwa Pixy with 20# Suffix high vis braid on a Majorcraft Volkey 68L BFS.
zell_pop1 reply :
Well the one spinning rod combo I had I accidentally kicked into lake Geist a few weeks ago (and busted my Costa Jose 580Gs trying to grab it) so I guess I'm going to try Ned rigs/shakey heads on casting equipment. I have a Pflueger Asaro and a 6'4" Team All Star rod I use for river small mouths as it casts light lures pretty good time to try it on finesse.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 5/25/2019 at 4:21 PM, JustJames said:What type 1/20oz jig head? I wanted to try swimZ and TRD on 1/20oz but I only got ball jig head in 1gram and 1.5 grams.
The zman shroomz 1/20. Just not very durable though if leave the TRD on the hook rusts quickly
I also just received the new Trokar finesse ned head 1/15 and 1/10 size
https://www.cabelas.com/product/Trokar-Pro-V-Finesse-Tungsten-Jighead/2941573.uts?slotId=1
and the new Eagle claw to try out.
https://www.cabelas.com/product/Eagle-Claw-Lazer-Sharp-Pro-V-Finesse-Jighead/2941562.uts?slotId=3
Duel purpose the 1/10 size will be for 2.8 Fat Keitech paddletails
BaitFinesse reply :
On 5/25/2019 at 8:02 PM, frogflogger said:It can be done easy enough but Why?
Why use baitcast gear for anything? Just use spinning for everything.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 5/26/2019 at 2:37 PM, BaitFinesse said:Why use baitcast gear for anything? Just use spinning for everything.
Because it's the better tool for some techniques, just like spinning gear is the better one for other techniques like Ned rigs ????
Heartland reply :
On 5/25/2019 at 8:33 PM, DogBone_384 said:I use a Pixy 68 on a Kistler ML/F and it nearly spools out every time.
what size and type of line are you using?
Heartland reply :
1On 5/25/2019 at 11:13 AM, EGbassing said:I used to use a spinning rod for my ned rigs but I want to try them again so I'm trying to use one on my SLX reel tomorrow. Does anybody else fish these on a casting reel?
should do fine, a trd and a 1/16 oz head weight just a little under a 1/4 oz. Somewhere around .222 oz.
DogBone_384 reply :
On 5/26/2019 at 7:15 PM, Heartland said:what size and type of line are you using?
20 pound Power Pro Slick.
Heartland reply :
On 5/26/2019 at 7:32 PM, DogBone_384 said:20 pound Power Pro Slick.
The stock spool in a PX68 will hold about 110 yards of 20lb power pro 8 Slick. If you're casting on a full spool and emptying it, that is around 300 -330ft. Extremely looooooooooong casts.
DogBone_384 reply :
On 5/26/2019 at 8:33 PM, Heartland said:The stock spool in a PX68 will hold about 110 yards of 20lb power pro 8 Slick. If you're casting on a full spool and emptying it, that is around 300 -330ft. Extremely looooooooooong casts.
I'm sure not casting 300'. The spool on my Pixy is very shallow. I doubt there's 100 yds of line on it. Regardless, I nearly spool it when I cast.
frogflogger reply :
A while back (50's and 60's) we were using Bronson and Shakespeare free spool tournament reels filled with 9# braided tournament silk - we fished 1/8oz lures with these reels and t3 sila flex rods.
But when decent mono came out we went to spinning for the light stuff.
GreenPig reply :
I've used my Curado 70 with 10 lb FC when my buddy started catching them on the Ned and I had failed to bring a spinning rig.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 5/26/2019 at 2:55 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Because it's the better tool for some techniques, just like spinning gear is the better one for other techniques like Ned rigs ????
In what way is it better? Why not fish all jigs on spinning tackle?
On 5/26/2019 at 9:44 PM, DogBone_384 said:I'm sure not casting 300'. The spool on my Pixy is very shallow. I doubt there's 100 yds of line on it. Regardless, I nearly spool it when I cast.
Same here. My Pixy Silver Mica has a Pixy Airy Red spool in it and I can nearly spool it on a hard cast with a 1/20 oz head and 20# Suffix braid.
freelancer27 reply :
I try to use casting gear whenever I can.
In your case I would either go with my NRX852c and the Steez CT SV TW, 7 pound fluro. This combo is amazing. Super versatile (I can basically throw anything from 1/16 to 3/8 oz.
If I need to get super low I use my BFS set up around a Major Craft BFS rod (rated 1/32 to 1/8oz) and a Shimano Aldebaran BFS with 4 pound test.
Usually I use the later combo only for trout.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 5/27/2019 at 1:01 AM, BaitFinesse said:In what way is it better? Why not fish all jigs on spinning tackle?
Let me preface this by saying you can use whatever you want, it doesn't bother me. You also can use a shoe to hammer in a nail, a knife to loosen a screw & a drill bit to pick your nose. Again, your choice, none of my business what you do.
However, this is a forum where the details of bass fishing techniques are shared. In the same way it would be misleading for Tim the Toolman Taylor to lecture which men's loafers are best for driving in a 2 penny nail, it is misleading for folks on this site to pretend using mismatched gear for a certain technique makes no difference. Again, do whatever you want personally, just watch what you advise others to do.
That said, the basic answer to your question is that the inherent design of spinning gear makes it better suited for for casting & retrieving lighter baits while the inherent design of casting gear is better suited for normal to heavy baits and heavier lines. There are nearly 347 threads on this forum on the specific strengths & weakness's of spinning gear versus the strengths & weakness's of casting gear. I don't want to waste space on the internet adding a 348th, so if you truly don't know the difference, do a search on this site and you will get plenty of information. If it helps you and you learn something, great. If not, keep doing what you are doing, you'll be fine.
roadwarrior reply :
On 5/25/2019 at 11:13 AM, EGbassing said:I used to use a spinning rod for my ned rigs but I want to try them again so I'm trying to use one on my SLX reel tomorrow. Does anybody else fish these on a casting reel?
Yes, it can work,but the optimal gear is spinning tackle.
d-camarena reply :
I think some people are embarrased of admitting they use spinning gear lol. I could probably use a baitcaster for my neds but why should I when a spinning set up will make it a lot easier.
Heartland reply :
On 5/26/2019 at 9:44 PM, DogBone_384 said:I'm sure not casting 300'. The spool on my Pixy is very shallow. I doubt there's 100 yds of line on it. Regardless, I nearly spool it when I cast.
Yes, I have been doing a lot of research on BFS casting recently. The best BFS systems don't seem to be able to reach 300'. I have seen some good casts reach about half that distance though.
Yumeya reply :
Nope, I can cast 1/16 farther and easier with a spinning rod.
If anyone wants to challenge me I'm down....
EGbassing reply :
On 5/27/2019 at 2:31 AM, roadwarrior said:Yes, it can work,but the optimal gear is spinning tackle.
After using both I would still say spinning gear is better for it, but not by much if you have the right BC gear.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
On 5/25/2019 at 10:55 PM, EGbassing said:Does the scorpion have cent. brakes? I was getting 25yd.~ casts today with a 1/16th head. Caught a solid 3.5er after not catching anything in weeks so that was good too.
I think OP already answered his own question.
On 5/27/2019 at 4:05 AM, EGbassing said:After using both I would still say spinning gear is better for it, but not by much if you have the right BC gear.
Do you?
On 5/27/2019 at 4:04 AM, Yumeya said:Nope, I can cast 1/16 farther and easier with a spinning rod.
If anyone wants to challenge me I'm down....
Further might be but easier and quicker I doubt it, and don’t forget those of wind knot when you heavy cast into wind where line keep coming out but lure not going no where.
On 5/27/2019 at 3:14 AM, d-camarena said:I think some people are embarrased of admitting they use spinning gear lol. I could probably use a baitcaster for my neds but why should I when a spinning set up will make it a lot easier.
Nope I’m not, 1/16oz shroom jig head with Zman batwings.
And I have this.
And this last pic from 15 years ago when I used baitcaster for trout, BFS? I don’t think so.
And BTW, BFS or whatever you call it, is not for everyone especially young man still in school.
Heartland reply :
There are a few Chinese Baitcasters that have some good reviews and impressive results compared to reels that cost much more.
Haibo Steed
Heartland reply :
This one I am not sure of the name, it is a very close copy of the Aldabaran BFS including the braking system.
Russ E reply :
these type of discussions come up on a lot of different forums.
It all comes down to what a person is comfortable using.
personally I use spinning gear for most baits under 1/4 ounce. Anything above that gets a casting setup.
Been doing this for 40 years. I have never heard a valid argument to change my mind.
this reminds me of a local hunting forum that constantly has the AR15/ 223 argument for harvesting deer.
Will it work? Yes, but why when there are better tools for the job.
bowhunter63 reply :
Lews orange crush spinning reel 8 lb flouro and a 7 ft 6 carbon light rod. Works great for Ned’s.Use spinning rods more and more al the time.
NYWayfarer reply :
Today I was using my Lew’s Mach Speed Stick Ned Rig 6’7” medium light spinning rod model#MHNRR With a size 100 spinning reel 6 Lb. Sufix Promix mono I pulled in my biggest LMB of the year and my PB Brook Trout slow rolling a shroomz jighead and a green pumpkin TRD.
Ned Rig is versatile. I love it on spring gear on calm waters and lighter jighead. Heavier jigheads and baitcasters in rivers and current.
jbrew73 reply :
Is it so hard to believe that some people are more comfortable and better with casting gear than spinning gear? No point in arguing about someone else’s preferences.
Glaucus reply :
No, and I also don't eat soup with a fork.
EGbassing reply :
On 5/27/2019 at 4:04 AM, Yumeya said:Nope, I can cast 1/16 farther and easier with a spinning rod.
If anyone wants to challenge me I'm down....
I turned my spool tension down and was getting solid 100~ foot casts with no backlash today.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 5/27/2019 at 2:25 AM, OCdockskipper said:Let me preface this by saying you can use whatever you want, it doesn't bother me. You also can use a shoe to hammer in a nail, a knife to loosen a screw & a drill bit to pick your nose. Again, your choice, none of my business what you do.
However, this is a forum where the details of bass fishing techniques are shared. In the same way it would be misleading for Tim the Toolman Taylor to lecture which men's loafers are best for driving in a 2 penny nail, it is misleading for folks on this site to pretend using mismatched gear for a certain technique makes no difference. Again, do whatever you want personally, just watch what you advise others to do.
That said, the basic answer to your question is that the inherent design of spinning gear makes it better suited for for casting & retrieving lighter baits while the inherent design of casting gear is better suited for normal to heavy baits and heavier lines. There are nearly 347 threads on this forum on the specific strengths & weakness's of spinning gear versus the strengths & weakness's of casting gear. I don't want to waste space on the internet adding a 348th, so if you truly don't know the difference, do a search on this site and you will get plenty of information. If it helps you and you learn something, great. If not, keep doing what you are doing, you'll be fine.
Explain to me why casting 3/16 oz on baitcast reels specifically designed to cast that weight range and even lighter is the wrong tool for the job of casting 3/16oz? It is literally the correct tool for the job.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
I think the ones putting down throwing TRD's with baitcasting gear just dont have the skills to do so. No one has given a valid reason to not use baitcaster if a person has that capability. A quality baitcaster can easily throw one 100 feet, be very accurate closer range, can skip them when/where needed.
If a person chooses to use spinning nothing wrong with that I use them too for neds and other lure not ragging on them. If I can use bc whats it to anyone else. Its not the wrong tool its a perfectly good optional tool.
BaitFinesse reply :
It's not even difficult to cast light weight baits with baitcast reels designed for light weight baits. The spools are lighter and start up easier with less effort and are easily controlled by the braking system thanks to the low rotational mass of the spool. It's not even a skillset argument. You are either are aware they exist or you are not. If you are not then you are going to go around repeating the sentiment that it is difficult to cast light weight baits with baitcast reels as if all baitcast reels are the same.
Bluebasser86 reply :
All these pros making a living out there, wanting every advantage they can get to help them earn every dollar, yet they choose spinning gear over BFS for finesse presentations. I'm sure there's a couple that use them, but your guys at the top of the list? aren't.
I have a BFS combo, it's fun to play around with. I fish an 1/8oz jig with it and it'll cast it out there pretty good. It's a very capable setup, but it's not as good of a tool for the job as my spinning gear is. It's not so much the "shoe to hammer a nail" analogy because it is designed for finesse applications and not like spinning gear is in a whole different league. It's more of, I have a socket wrench, or a regular wrench. Both will get the job done, but one does it a little better than the other. Someone who is practiced and proficient with a BFS combo can probably do some pretty impressive things with them and probably be more efficient than a lot of folks are with a spinning combo.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I think the OP has got the answer he needed now that we've all very thoroughly derailed his topic.
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