Mono size for heavy cover 2024
jwo1124 reply :
I really want to resist using braid since its not only very expesive, but I heard it can be troublesome to work with. Can anyone reccommend a decent size mono for tossing baits in and around heavy cover. I was thinking 20# Berkley Big game or XT in green.
wisturkeyhunter reply :
What are you throwing and what rod and reel you using to throw it? I'd recommend pline cxx 15# though. Its tough as they get.
Raul reply :
I fish heavy cover with Trilene Big Game 10 lbs test about 80% of the time, I go up to 12 pound test when I fish the rocks and 15 lbs when I flip. No need to fish with wire.
Sam reply :
On a 7-foot heavy rod with a 5:1:1 reel for winching power, may I suggest 20-pound flourocarbon line?
Get abrasive resistive line since you will be in cover.
Or....put the flouro on your 5:1:1 reel as a backing, then add about 75 yards of braid and add a two or three foot flouro leader and use this setup. Make sure the diameters of both lines are equal.
The above setup will allow you to use only a small portion of your braid line but still get the benefits of the braid in cover.
Now, what type of knot should you use to tie the flouro to the braid?
Do some research to find the answer on this forum. It has been discussed a number of times and it boils down to personal preference. 
J Francho reply :
12-15# P-line CXX.
Uncle Leo reply :
15 # CXX is great line and wil what I prefer. I also use 15# Big Game which is much cheaper.
The_Natural reply :
QuoteWhat are you throwing and what rod and reel you using to throw it? I'd recommend pline cxx 15# though. Its tough as they get.
Cosign...
roadwarrior reply :
If you're fond of Slinkies, you're going to love P-Line in cold weather.
Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft #12 is the ticket (.013" diameter, 19.5 lb test).
8-)
Daniel My Brother reply :
Pline CXX is super strong, but it does have a lot of memory if that's a concern for you.
Berkley Big Game is a great quality line at an unbeatable price. It's the only mono I currently use. I prefer 12# for most applications.
Just a note about braid; it is probably the cheapest line going when you consider how long it lasts. I can get a full season out of a spool of braid, but I'm changing mono out every 4 or 5 trips.
Grey Wolf reply :
QuoteI really want to resist using braid since its not only very expesive, but I heard it can be troublesome to work with. Can anyone reccommend a decent size mono for tossing baits in and around heavy cover. I was thinking 20# Berkley Big game or XT in green.
What do you mean "troublesome to work with"? It's not expensive. I usually get two or three years out of the braid I put on my reels.
Trick Worm reply :
remember the bigger the line the harder it becomes to cast. When you really need strength but still want to maintain performance it is hard to beat braided. For heavy cover I would use 15 lb fluro no mono
Tin reply :
QuoteQuoteI really want to resist using braid since its not only very expesive, but I heard it can be troublesome to work with. Can anyone reccommend a decent size mono for tossing baits in and around heavy cover. I was thinking 20# Berkley Big game or XT in green.What do you mean "troublesome to work with"? It's not expensive. I usually get two or three years out of the braid I put on my reels.
When it comes to heavy cover, mono is almost obsolete.
kikstand454 reply :
yeah i can go all year fishing saltwater with the same spool of braid. at least 6mos. power pro. its the best.
i personally use yo zuri hybrid on everything i own now with the exception of the accurrist pts i got a few weeks back that was strung with pline cxx. i do not like it and will be replacing it with yozuri as soon as i feel im not wasting good line. it handles odd and has the memory of a female elephant. its strong though. gotta give it that.
Catt reply :
Berkley Big Game 15#
wisturkeyhunter reply :
QuoteIf you're fond of Slinkies, you're going to love P-Line in cold weather.8-)
I was fishing 25# cxx last night when it was under 40 degrees with a light rain coming down. No problems what so ever. I've used 15 and 17 pound several times when it was at least that cold with no problems. Hear all these problems about cxx and I've never had a problem. Must be the Wisconsin Air.
The_Natural reply :
QuoteQuoteIf you're fond of Slinkies, you're going to love P-Line in cold weather.25lb CXX?! I love CXX, but you are a braver man than I. 15lb is as high as I've ever needed to go. It's weird how there seems to be quite a difference in memory between the 15 and 17lb tests. 25lb has to be rough!
8-)
I was fishing 25# cxx last night when it was under 40 degrees with a light rain coming down. No problems what so ever. I've used 15 and 17 pound several times when it was at least that cold with no problems. Hear all these problems about cxx and I've never had a problem. Must be the Wisconsin Air.
wisturkeyhunter reply :
I was throwing a swimbait that weighs over 2 ounce but with lighter stuff it would probably cause problems. First swimbait setup and wanted something I could count on if I hook a big pike or muskie and cxx is pretty d**n strong. Been pretty succesful at catching bass for the short time I've had it. Plus cxx is cheaper than alot of quality lines out there. I do agree there is a difference in 15 and 17. With 15 I can spool up and go fishing with zero problems, with 17 usually take a hard snag or few fish to get it broke in or it seems that way then it works great but 15 is strong enough for a standard bass rod.
FishinDaddy reply :
QuoteI really want to resist using braid since its not only very expesive, but I heard it can be troublesome to work with. Can anyone reccommend a decent size mono for tossing baits in and around heavy cover. I was thinking 20# Berkley Big game or XT in green.
Braid is not expensive to use. Maybe more expensive to purchase but much cheaper over the long run. Buy some power pro 65lb, learn to tie a palomar knot, buy some superline hooks and prepare to get anything you hook out of anywhere it lives. You will break your rod and your arm before breaking the power pro.
Bassboss reply :
I think is very simple to work with!
But I like to use at least 14lb, and at most 20lb when fishing heavy cover.
I find 16 to be a happy median.
Raul reply :
QuoteI think is very simple to work with!But I like to use at least 14lb, and at most 20lb.
I find 16 to be a happy median.
Bassmasters Magazine
March 2008, article 10 Bad Mistakes Bassers make by Ken Duke, page 46, mistake No4:
THEY DON 'T USE THE RIGHT LINE
Reese beleives that few weekend anglers carry the full assortment of line types and sizes -from 6 to 30 pound test- with them whenever they go fishing. Nor they make the best use of lines.
He says "Line diameters and types make a huge difference in lure performance. The difference between 8 lb and 12 lbs can be enormous. Even on power fishing lakes like Toho in Florida or Sam rayburn in Texas, you need lots of lines to choose from so you can make adjustments and catch fish consistently. You need the right lines to get your baits into productive depths or pull fish out of cover or minimize line visibility. It all adds up."
roadwarrior reply :
QuoteI think is very simple to work with!But I like to use at least 14lb, and at most 20lb.
I find 16 to be a happy median.
Really?
Who makes 16 lb test line?
Bassboss reply :
QuoteQuoteI think is very simple to work with!But I like to use at least 14lb, and at most 20lb when fishing heavy cover.
I find 16 to be a happy median.
Bassmasters Magazine
March 2008, article 10 Bad Mistakes Bassers make by Ken Duke, page 46, mistake No4:
THEY DON 'T USE THE RIGHT LINE
Reese beleives that few weekend anglers carry the full assortment of line types and sizes -from 6 to 30 pound test- with them whenever they go fishing. Nor they make the best use of lines.
He says "Line diameters and types make a huge difference in lure performance. The difference between 8 lb and 12 lbs can be enormous. Even on power fishing lakes like Toho in Florida or Sam rayburn in Texas, you need lots of lines to choose from so you can make adjustments and catch fish consistently. You need the right lines to get your baits into productive depths or pull fish out of cover or minimize line visibility. It all adds up."
No augment their! You should always have different line lb tests.
But did he not ask about heavy cover?
Bassboss reply :
QuoteQuoteI think is very simple to work with!But I like to use at least 14lb, and at most 20lb.
I find 16 to be a happy median.
Really?
Who makes 16 lb test line?
http://www.***.com/styleproducts.html?styleref=2920
All of these!
Raul reply :
QuoteBut did he not ask about heavy cover?
You mean heavy like this ?
You don 't need 20 lbs test to fish it, you need the right line to: get your baits into productive depths or pull fish out of cover or minimize line visibility., I fish that place with 10 lbs test.
roadwarrior reply :
Hmm...
Based on the cost of those lines, I find it highly unlikely
you have fished any of them.
:
J Francho reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteI think is very simple to work with!But I like to use at least 14lb, and at most 20lb.
I find 16 to be a happy median.
Really?
Who makes 16 lb test line?
http://www.***.com/styleproducts.html?styleref=2920
All of these!
Out of all of these, I've only tried Sunline Shooter. Way overpriced, and and totally unnecessary. I doubt that you've used any of these either. Don't bother. A few of my buddies swear by Yo-Zuri, and I like P-Line CXX. 12# works fine, but if you want super heavy mono, then go to 15#. I use 15#, but not for its strength, but to keep the bait high in the column. If you want higher break strength, switch to braid, and learn how to deal with the drawbacks. No one brand of line or line diameter is a silver bullet, do everything solution.
Bassboss reply :
QuoteHmm...Based on the cost of those lines, I find it highly unlikely
you have fished any of them.
:
http://www.***.com/descpageLNETRIPFISH-TFCEL.html
this one!
Bassboss reply :
QuoteQuoteBut did he not ask about heavy cover?
You mean heavy like this ?
You don 't need 20 lbs test to fish it, you need the right line to: get your baits into productive depths or pull fish out of cover or minimize line visibility., I fish that place with 10 lbs test.
Not like that,more like a pads and reeds!
Raul reply :
QuoteNot like that,more like a pads and reeds!
Then make it 12 lbs test, the right brand and type.
Bassboss reply :
QuoteQuoteNot like that,more like a pads and reeds!
Then make it 12 lbs test, the right brand and type.
Like what, I only started getting into mono quality recently, back then it was what ever was cheep, mono was mono.
As far as I know, the only "high quality" mono I've used it Sufix Elite Camo, in 17lb, that and Triple Fish Camo-Escent, 16lb.
And believe it or not I've never had any line under 14lb on a bass pole!
Raul reply :
Man you really like to argument without a base, not all monos are equal, let alone quality but characteristics and properties differ from one to another, to exemplify: XL, Big Game and XT are all mono but they are not the same, the properties of each are unique to each that what makes one better suited for certain applications and for certain circumstances than the other, I keep saying to you: the RIGHT TYPE and you keep argumenting, you only prove to us your own lack of knowledge or experience on a subject that has lots of twists and catches to it.
tyrius. reply :
A lot of this depends upon what your definition of heavy cover is. If you're talking matted vegetation, then fish braid in either 50 or 65 lb test. If you're talking rocks and wood then fish with mono. I fish a lot of small rip rap and have really been liking Big Game. I bought it in 17lb (cause it was on clearence), but that's too heavy. After this spool is done, I'll buy 12lb and pay full price.
Grey Wolf reply :
QuoteMan you really like to argument without a base, not all monos are equal, let alone quality but characteristics and properties differ from one to another, to exemplify: XL, Big Game and XT are all mono but they are not the same, the properties of each are unique to each that what makes one better suited for certain applications and for certain circumstances than the other, I keep saying to you: the RIGHT TYPE and you keep argumenting, you only prove to us your own lack of knowledge or experience on a subject that has lots of twists and catches to it.
You're argueing with a child and not a very swift one at that. Talk to rocks , you will get a better responce.
tyrius. reply :
QuoteI think is very simple to work with!But I like to use at least 14lb, and at most 20lb when fishing heavy cover.
I find 16 to be a happy median.
Hmm, 17 is the median between 14 and 20; not 16.
tyrius. reply :
QuoteYou're argueing with a child and not a very swift one at that. Talk to rocks , you will get a better responce.
;D ;D ;D
Bassboss must be rubbing off on you!!!
tyrius. reply :
QuoteNo augment their! You should always have different line lb tests.But did he not ask about heavy cover?
It's become rather obvious to me that you should spend your "downtime" in "school" actually studying rather than posting here.
I'm thinking that paying a little (ok a lot) more attention to your studies will pay off in the long run a LOT more than time spent here.
Bassboss reply :
QuoteMan you really like to argument without a base, not all monos are equal, let alone quality but characteristics and properties differ from one to another, to exemplify: XL, Big Game and XT are all mono but they are not the same, the properties of each are unique to each that what makes one better suited for certain applications and for certain circumstances than the other, I keep saying to you: the RIGHT TYPE and you keep argumenting, you only prove to us your own lack of knowledge or experience on a subject that has lots of twists and catches to it.
Fist, I never said that I was very good with kind of stuff!
secondly.
Like what, I only started getting into mono quality recently, back then it was what ever was cheep, mono was mono.
As far as I know, the only "high quality" mono I've used it Sufix Elite Camo, in 17lb, that and Triple Fish Camo-Escent, 16lb.
And believe it or not I've never had any line under 14lb on a bass pole!
Raul reply :
QuoteYou're argueing with a child and not a very swift one at that. Talk to rocks , you will get a better responce.
;D ;D ;D
Well, let 's look at it this way, the Colorado River managed to carve out the Grand Canyon, it was only a matter of time, let 's see if I have the same ammount of patience.
Grey Wolf reply :
QuoteQuoteYou're argueing with a child and not a very swift one at that. Talk to rocks , you will get a better responce.;D ;D ;D
Well, let 's look at it this way, the Colorado River managed to carve out the Grand Canyon, it was only a matter of time, let 's see if I have the same ammount of patience.
May the force be with you.
Grey Wolf reply :
QuoteQuoteYou're argueing with a child and not a very swift one at that. Talk to rocks , you will get a better responce.;D ;D ;D
Bassboss must be rubbing off on you!!!
Just a little bit!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stasher1 reply :
It really depends how you fish the cover, imho. I use use 8lb Sufix Elite on spinning gear and 12lb Elite on baitcasters to fish the area in the pic below. The fish in the pic was taken on 8lb Elite and a ML spinning rod.
What kind of cover are we talking about? What kind of lures are you trying to use? Are you fishing from a boat or bank fishing?
Bassboss reply :
wow. I just realized the stupidity of saying "like what?" this post was made for that to answer that same exact question, the answer is right under my nose, but I was being to stubborn to look their.
And I wanna say sorry to jwo1124 for stealing the post, I was being very ignorant and self centered. And also sorry to Raul for being such an :
:-/
Raul reply :
I don 't care who you are, that 's too danged funny ! ;D
Kiddo, no problem, on the contrary, recognizing your mistakes and taking responsibility from them is something to be taken in consideration and speaks highly about the kind of person you are.
The_Natural reply :
If you are questioning which lb test to use for what....just read the elite series tournament archives. They are simply the best fishermen in the world, and it always lists the techniques and lb test used in the 'results'.
Bassboss reply :
QuoteI don 't care who you are, that 's too danged funny ! ;DKiddo, no problem, on the contrary, recognizing your mistakes and taking responsibility from them is something to be taken in consideration and speaks highly about the kind of person you are.
Thanks Raul!
You're talking about the donkey right?! ;D
Tin reply :
Big Bait Fishing reply :
braid is the best thing since sliced bread , youshould give it a try , try some 20# power pro , and you will never use mono again !! if your worried about visibility , use a 6-10 foot leader of flouro . as far as managability , braid is superior in every way to mono and flouro . just use a little caution casting in a strong wind with small (20# and under) dia. line .
Catt reply :
I like that braid is the best thing since sliced bread or mono is almost obsolete but if you're worried about visibility simply add the mono you're try to get rid of.
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