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Im Looking For A New Rod And Its Got Be Light! 2024


fishing user avatarJazzPipes reply : 

Hey friends,

 

Im looking for a new rod. I already have a Veritas 2.0 from A. Garcia. Mainly, I'm fishing from the bank so, I need a light rod so I can carry it all day. The Veritas I have is a medium, but for this new rod I would like a medium heavy. The price I'm targeting is less than $150, any recommendations?


fishing user avatarthe reel ess reply : 

I have a 15 year old 7' Falcon Lowrider that's still the lightest I have. Extremely sensitive too for about $129 regular price. But I bought it used for $50 from a guy who was raising money for a custom motorcycle build. I know there are better rods, but this is by far my best. If you go on their site, they list specific uses for each rod so you'll get the one you need.


fishing user avatarlecisnith reply : 

My lightest rod is a Falcon Bucoo. Barely feels like there is anything in my hand. Seriously. Great, super sensitive rod.


fishing user avatarthe reel ess reply : 
  On 9/28/2015 at 7:52 PM, lecisnith said:

My lightest rod is a Falcon Bucoo. Barely feels like there is anything in my hand. Seriously. Great, super sensitive rod.

The BuCoo looks like a great bargain in its price range. The only drawback to me is the EVA grip. I don't own any bass rods with them and I'm not sure how I'll like it.


fishing user avatarlecisnith reply : 
  On 9/28/2015 at 8:36 PM, the reel ess said:

The BuCoo looks like a great bargain in its price range. The only drawback to me is the EVA grip. I don't own any bass rods with them and I'm not sure how I'll like it.

One: it was an even better bargain because I got it at the garage sale of a DNR officer's widow for $25. Two: I don't really notice much difference in performance and sensitivity from my cork grip rods. Three: I'm not precisely sure what the difference in EVA and cork grips other than aesthetics and maybe comfort.


fishing user avatard-camarena reply : 

X2 for bucoo or lowrider. I have 6 bucoos and 2 lowriders and they are amazing. The eva handles on the bucoos are real comfortable. I dont see a difference from cork


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fishing user avatarWRB reply : 
  On 9/28/2015 at 1:55 PM, JazzPipes said:

Hey friends,

Im looking for a new rod. I already have a Veritas 2.0 from A. Garcia. Mainly, I'm fishing from the bank so, I need a light rod so I can carry it all day. The Veritas I have is a medium, but for this new rod I would like a medium heavy. The price I'm targeting is less than $150, any recommendations?

If the rod weight is your priority what weight are you looking for, under 4 oz? What reel is matched with this new rod? Replies should include actual rod weight in grams to be objective.

1 once = 28.35 grams.

Tom


fishing user avatarlmbfisherman reply : 

For that price range, Fenwick Elite Techs and BPS Carbonlite.  I do agree what Tom states too. 


fishing user avatarbuzzed bait reply : 

honestly, any rod in the $100 - $150 range should be plenty light enough to carry around all day.

sensitivity and durability would be my primary factors and that would leave me looking at the *** black gen 2 rods.  


fishing user avatarpoisonokie reply : 

A MH Tatula weighs less than 4 oz. If you want crazy light, you'll have to spend some more cash on something with Titanium guides.


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 
  On 9/28/2015 at 11:16 PM, poisonokie said:

A MH Tatula weighs less than 4 oz. If you want crazy light, you'll have to spend some more cash on something with Titanium guides.

Post the actual weight!


fishing user avatarcorn-on-the-rob reply : 

If you like the Abu brand check out the veracity. Very light, strong, titanium micro guides, etc. Right at $150. Aesthetically pleasing, and I actually prefer the foam grips.


fishing user avatarpoisonokie reply : 
  On 9/29/2015 at 12:20 AM, WRB said:

Post the actual weight!

 

http://tackletour.com/reviewdaiwatatularod.html


fishing user avatarpoisonokie reply : 

I just know the 7'2" heavy/fast is 4 oz, so it stands to reason that the 7'1" mh rods are a bit lighter. I think the 7'6" heavy/fast is about 4.5 oz and the 7'7" glass is about 5.5.

 

The only downside to that weight savings is that the rods are a tad tip heavy from the SS guides (I'm guessing) and it helps to have a heavier reel to balance it out. It just so happens that the tatula reels do just that.


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

My point is if you can recommend a light weight rod you should own it and be able to actually weigh it!

To be accurate in the weight should be in grams or fractions of an once if "the lightest weight rods" is a criteria.

4 oz isn't under 4 oz. what you will find its very little publish actual rod weights, this requires weighing the rods you own. How about guys, list the rods ,you recommend with actual weights! Should an interesting list.

Tom


fishing user avatarblckshirt98 reply : 

The St Croix Rage rods are still on sale in their online Bargain Room for $89 bucks.  Those things are pretty dang light, but you need to like microguides and their grip is a neoprene skin of sorts, not EVA or cork.


fishing user avatarpoisonokie reply : 
  On 9/29/2015 at 12:50 AM, WRB said:

My point is if you can recommend a light weight rod you should own it and be able to actually weigh it!

To be accurate in the weight should be in grams or fractions of an once if "the lightest weight rods" is a criteria.

4 oz isn't under 4 oz. what you will find its very little publish actual rod weights, this requires weighing the rods you own. How about guys, list the rods ,you recommend with actual weights! Should an interesting list.

Tom

 

Okay, but a shorter lighter action rod is going to be less massive. I don't see the problem here. Some of you guys really need to learn to relax, though, I know that.


fishing user avatard-camarena reply : 

If you are just going to be carrying one rod than i dont think weight would be a real issue. Unless its an ugly stik


fishing user avatarthe reel ess reply : 

Hair splitting abounds

 

I have the one very good (for me) combo, but I catch most of my fish on two much cheaper combos with Lightning Rods.


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

The OP's current rod is 6'6", weight is 4 oz, he wants a rod that is lighter weight under $150.

Hoping some of you would weigh your rod and post them, weight data is difficult to find.

The lightest rod I could find was Okuma Helios HS-CM-701M, 7' casting rod @ 3.4 oz...very light rod, however $170 or ($134 Amazon) Anyone know of a lighter MH casting 6'6" to 7' casting rod, post it. HS-CM-701MH = medium heavy.

My jig/worm casting rods are 6'10", 5 power with a foregrip and weigh 3.8 oz, custom built and not close to the OP's price point.

Tom


fishing user avatarJohn G reply : 
  On 9/29/2015 at 3:02 AM, poisonokie said:

Okay, but a shorter lighter action rod is going to be less massive. I don't see the problem here. Some of you guys really need to learn to relax, though, I know that.

You would think that is true but I remember someone posting that their longer NRX was lighter than their shorter NRX. What Tom is worked up about is people ask for recommendations for a rod or reel and A LOT of guys here give opinions on rods and reels that they have never even touched and yet they are recommending that particular rod or reel for purchase. I know that I am guilty of that in the past but I do not do it anymore.


fishing user avatarRich in Co reply : 

Here is s bunch of rod weights that was done on TT

 

  Manufacturers Model Power Action Length Weight in oz Weight in g Model Year                                                                
2
  Abu Vendetta M   6’3 4.4 oz 125g. 2010                      
3
  ABU Vengeance MH Fast 7’6 6.9 oz 196g. 2010                      
4
  ABU Garcia Vengeance MH   7’8 6.0 oz 170g. 2010                      
5
  ABU Garcia Vengeance VGC66-7       6.1 oz 173g.                        
6
  Airrus Co-Matrix 457 M M-F 7’0 5.2 oz 146g.                        
7
  Berkley Cherrywood (2-piece) M M-F 6’0 3.2 oz 90g. 2004                      
8
  Berkley AMP M   5’6 3.7 oz 105g. 2010                      
9
  Berkley Canadian Specialist MH M-F 6’8 4.8 oz 135g. 2005                      
10
  Berkley Lightning Shock MH Fast 7’0 5.0 oz 142g.                        
11
  BOF Custom (2-piece) L   7’0 3.5 oz 100g. 2009                      
12
  BPS Carbonlite MH Fast 7’0 4.5 oz 127g. 2010                      
13
  BPS Tourney Special M   8’6 7.4 oz 210g. 2001                      
14
  Cabelas XMLti XMLTI69DS     6’9 4.0 oz 115g.                        
15
  Cabelas XML 703 MH   7’0 5.5 oz 155g.                        
16
  Daiwa Steez MH Fast 6’3 3.4 oz 97g.                        
17
  Daiwa TriForce-Z (org 120g.) ML Mod 6’6 3.7 oz 105g. 2005                      
18
  Daiwa TriForce M   5’6 3.9 oz 110g. 2005                      
19
  Daiwa TDZL701MXB M Action 7' 4.2 oz                          
20
  Daiwa Megaforce M   6’0 4.4 oz 124g. 2002                      
21
  Daiwa Sol M Fast 6’6 4.5 oz 127g.                        
22
  Daiwa Procaster MH   6’6 5.1 oz 145g. 2010                      
23
  Daiwa Mike Iaconelli M   7’8 5.5 oz 155g.                        
24
  Daiwa Steez Werewolf M   6’6 3.3 oz 94g. 2010                      
25
  Daiwa TDZL701MHFB MH Fast 7’0 4.3 oz 122g.                        
26
  Damiki   M Fast 6’6 4.2 oz 120g. 2010                      
27
  Damiki Angel EX (2-piece) MH X-F 6’6 4.4 oz 125g. 2010                      
28
  Dobyns DX701C L Fast 7'   119g.                        
29
  Dobyns 734C G2       4.9 oz 140g.                        
30
  Dobyns 704CB glass G2       4.6 oz 130g.                        
31
  Dobyns 704CB       4.8 oz 145g.                        
32
  Dobyns 705CB       4.9 oz 140g.                        
33
  Dobyns DX744       5.2 oz 146g.                        
34
  Dobyns 705CB glass G2       5.4 oz 153g.                        
35
  Dobyns 735C G2       5.4 oz 153g.                        
36
  Falcon Cara CC-6-1610S       3.8 oz 109g.                        
37
  Falcon Cara 3 Mod 6’6 4.2 oz 120g. 2004                      
38
  Falcon Cara T7 MH Fast 6’6 3.5 oz 100g.                        
39
  Fenwick Techna AV M   6’0 3.8 oz 109g. 2007                      
40
  Fenwick Walleye Class M Mod 6’6 3.9 oz 110g. 2007                      
41
  Fenwick HMG Graphite M Fast 6’0 4.1 oz 117g. 2002                      
42
  Frontier MBR783 MH   6’6 4.3 oz 122g. 2007                      
43
  G-Blank Custom Shikari SHX L Mod 6’10 2.9 oz 83g. 2003                      
44
  G.Loomis CBR781 Bronzeback ML Mod 6’6 3.6 oz 102g. 2008                      
45
  G.Loomis BCR GLX 802 M X-F 6’8 3.8 oz 109g.                        
46
  G.Loomis MBR IMX 782 M Fast 6’6 4.0 oz 115g.                        
47
  G.Loomis BCR GLX 803 MH X-F 6’8 4.1 oz 117g.                        
48
  G.Loomis CB 847 Custom H ModF 7’0 4.1 oz 117g.                        
49
  G.Loomis SMR 814 CB MH ModF 6’9 4.1 oz 117g.                        
50
  G.Loomis BSR GLX 852 M Fast 7’1 4.3 oz 121g.                        
51
  G.Loomis MBR GLX 843 MH Fast 7’0 4.3 oz 121g.                        
52
  G.Loomis GLX BCR853 MH   7’1 4.5 oz 127g.                        
53
  G.Loomis MBR GLX 844 H Fast 7’0 4.6 oz 130g.                        
54
  G.Loomis BCR 893 GLX MH X-F 7’5 4.9 oz 140g.                        
55
  G.Loomis BCR GLX 875 MagH Fast 7’3 5.0 oz 142g.                        
56
  G.Loomis 842 GLX M Fast 7’0 4.1 oz 117g.                        
57
  G.Loomis IMX MBR783C MH   6’6 4.3 oz 122g.                        
58
  G.Loomis CBR845C H   7’1 4.6 oz 130g.                        
59
  G.Loomis SBR813C       4.7 oz 134g.                        
60
  G.Loomis NRX802C         97g.                        
61
  G.Loomis NRX893C         113g.                        
62
  Kistler Custom IM7 (2-piece) ML Fast 7’0 3.7 oz 105g. 2007                      
63
  Kistler Z-Bone Custom Micro H   7’0 4.0 oz 114g. 2010                      
64
  Kistler Z-Bone MH   8’0 4.1 oz 117g. 2010                      
65
  Kistler Magnesium Micro M   7’0 4.3 oz 122g. 2010                      
66
  Kistler LTX II MH Fast 6’9 4.5 oz 127g.                        
67
  Kistler LTX M   7’0 4.5 oz 127g. 2010                      
68
  Kistler LTX H   7’0 4.5 oz 127g. 2010                      
69
  Kistler LTA H   7’0 4.5 oz 127g. 2010                      
70
  Kistler Magnesium Micro MH   7’0 4.6 oz 130g. 2010                      
71
  Kistler LTA H   7’6 5.0 oz 142g. 2010                      
72
  Kistler Magnesium H   7’0 5.3 oz 150g. 2010                      
73
  Kistler Magnesium XH   7’0 5.4 oz 153g. 2010                      
74
  Kistler Magnesium Specialty H   7’8 6.3 oz 179g. 2010                      
75
  Kistler Helium APC MH   6’9 3.6 oz 102g. 2005                      
76
  Kistler Helium XH   7’0 5.5 oz 155g. 2008                      
77
  Lamiglas XCF705R glass       5.7 oz 162g.                        
78
  Lamiglas SR765R       6.3 oz 179g.                        
79
  Powell Max 703C MH X-F 7’0 3.9 oz 110g.                        
80
  Powell Max 702MLEF     7’0 3.3 oz 94g.                        
81
  Powell Max Glass 754CB       7.2 oz 204g.                        
82
  Quantum IM6 (2-piece) M Mod 6’0 2.9 oz 83g. 1998                      
83
  Quantum Affinity M   6’0 4.1 oz 117g. 2003                      
84
  Quantum Biffle H X-F 6’10 4.5 oz 127g.                        
85
  Quantum Smoke M F 7' 3.4 oz   2011                      
86
  Rapala Sportmen HM-30 M   6’0 4.0 oz 114g. 2006                      
87
  Rapala R-Type M Fast 6’2 4.0 oz 115g. 2010                      
88
  Rapala Sportsmen IM-6 M   6’6 5.2 oz 146g. 1999                      
89
  Shakespeare Agility (custom 2-piece) UL   7’0 3.9 oz 110g. 2008                      
90
  Shakespeare Intrepid (2-piece) MH   6’6 4.2 oz 120g. 2005                      
91
  Shakespeare Agility (org) UL   7’0 4.8 oz 135g. 2007                      
92
  Shakespeare Intrepid (T) MH   7’6 6.0 oz 170g. 2004                      
93
  Shimano Crucial Dropshot M Fast 6’6 3.5 oz 100g.                        
94
  Shimano Compre CPS-X60MA     6’0 3.6 oz 102g.                        
95
  Shimano Crucial M Mod 6’6 3.6 oz 102g. 2008                      
96
  Shimano Crucial CRS-66M     6’6 3.7 oz 105g.                        
97
  Shimano Crucial CRS-X63M     6’3 3.7 oz 105g.                        
98
  Shimano Cumara M X-F 6’8 3.9 oz 110g. 2010                      
99
  Shimano Cumara MH Fast 6’8 3.9 oz 110g. 2010                      
100
  Shimano Compre CPS-X66MB     6’6 3.9 oz 110g.    
fishing user avatarblckshirt98 reply : 

I would worry less about overall rod weight and worry more about making sure it's balanced properly with the reel size/line you have paired with it.  You can have the lightest rod on the list but if you pair it with the wrong reel where the fulcrum is in the wrong spot, your shoulder will feel like it will fall off after casting all day.


fishing user avatarPenguino reply : 
  On 9/29/2015 at 6:44 AM, blckshirt98 said:

I would worry less about overall rod weight and worry more about making sure it's balanced properly with the reel size/line you have paired with it.  You can have the lightest rod on the list but if you pair it with the wrong reel where the fulcrum is in the wrong spot, your shoulder will feel like it will fall off after casting all day.

 

Completely agree. Best advice I've read in this thread so far. To the OP, what type of reel are you using? (i.e. graphit/carbon, alumnum, magnesium etc.)


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Rich in Co, that is a long list and a lot of effort to post, thank you.

The OP indicates his price point is $150 or less, he didn't indicate the rod length however his current medium rod is 6'6" bait casting that weighs 4 oz from the model referenced.

If you remove all the spinning rods, rods over $150, rods other than MH or 3 to 4 power between 6'6" to 7', and rods not available today, that leaves....a few choices to look into for the OP.

Tom


fishing user avatarLendiesel22 reply : 

This was in interesting spin out. It does bring to light only a few really look into the rod specs when making a purchase and the others would be more happy buying off recommendation tallys. I liked the comment about being balanced. If you take some time on tackle tour and read reviews on rods and make a educated choice in the area of weight you want to be in and mate that with a reel that for lack of better terms dissappears onto your new stick you are going to be really happy fishing it all day.


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Every angler has thier own idea what feels right to them and should, if possible, try mounting the reel they plan to use on the new rod they plan to purchase with a casting plug that represents the average weight lure they use.

If you look back at my 1st reply, #7, questioned the OP what reel did he plan to use to give some thought to balance. As long as the weight of the reel doesn't exceed about 2X the rod weight ( 4 oz 7' rod with 8 oz reel), it should be OK.

Waiting for a reply from the OP, otherwise I am done with thread.

Tom


fishing user avatarQUAKEnSHAKE reply : 

I own and have weighed these as my lightweight rods bought under $150 new

 

For WRB weighed on calibrated certified scales the lab has where I work.

 

Gen 1---Quantum Smoke 7' Medium Fast 1/4-3/4 lure rating 3.439ounces- 97.522grams have good balance even with a Core50 5.5oz reel can be bought for around $100 still

 

Okuma Helios 7' MH Fast 1/4-1oz lure rating 3.54098ounces- 100.385grams can be found around $130-$140.

 

Helios definitely has more power for just a tick more weight.


fishing user avatarBig Bait Fishing reply : 

i like the posting of rod weights !! makes me feel good about my rod being pretty light for what it is , a Rainshadow RX8 XMB 944.5 - 7'10'' heavy/fast that comes in at 4.75 oz. & with my Lew's Tournament Lite (Revo large eva grips, 95 mm carbon handle and a spool full of 14 lb. sniper ) the combo comes in at 11 oz. even ....


fishing user avatarsmalljaw67 reply : 
  On 9/29/2015 at 10:47 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

I own and have weighed these as my lightweight rods bought under $150 new

 

For WRB weighed on calibrated certified scales the lab has where I work.

 

Gen 1---Quantum Smoke 7' Medium Fast 1/4-3/4 lure rating 3.439ounces- 97.522grams have good balance even with a Core50 5.5oz reel can be bought for around $100 still

 

Okuma Helios 7' MH Fast 1/4-1oz lure rating 3.54098ounces- 100.385grams can be found around $130-$140.

 

Helios definitely has more power for just a tick more weight.

 

I have a Smoke rod, a 7'MH-F and it is 3.7oz on my postal scale and the rod is not only light but very sensitive and the power is freaky considering how light it is. For the price they are hard to beat and often over looked, my buddy hates Quantum and cusses at me to this day because he had to get one after using mine.


fishing user avatarJazzPipes reply : 

G

 

  On 9/29/2015 at 9:19 AM, WRB said:

Every angler has thier own idea what feels right to them and should, if possible, try mounting the reel they plan to use on the new rod they plan to purchase with a casting plug that represents the average weight lure they use.
If you look back at my 1st reply, #7, questioned the OP what reel did he plan to use to give some thought to balance. As long as the weight of the reel doesn't exceed about 2X the rod weight ( 4 oz 7' rod with 8 oz reel), it should be OK.
Waiting for a reply from the OP, otherwise I am done with thread.
Tom

Hey Tom, thanks a lot for the insights and the energy to help me. Sorry for taking so long, my internet has been acting up.

I intend to pair it with a BPS Pro Qualifier. I know its not the lightest reel out there but this is what I have with me right now. I will upgrade the reel in the future. Any suggestion on the reel also?


fishing user avatarJazzPipes reply : 
  On 9/29/2015 at 10:47 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

I own and have weighed these as my lightweight rods bought under $150 new

 

For WRB weighed on calibrated certified scales the lab has where I work.

 

Gen 1---Quantum Smoke 7' Medium Fast 1/4-3/4 lure rating 3.439ounces- 97.522grams have good balance even with a Core50 5.5oz reel can be bought for around $100 still

 

Okuma Helios 7' MH Fast 1/4-1oz lure rating 3.54098ounces- 100.385grams can be found around $130-$140.

 

Helios definitely has more power for just a tick more weight.

That Quantum is looking good to me, how do you think the combo will workout with a BPS pro qualifier?


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

JazzPipes,

Thank you for coming back.

Your Pro Qualifier weighs 8.8 oz, less line, the Quantum Smoke 6.7 oz, nearly 2 oz difference and would be a better choice with the new lightweight rod, the Q Smoke or Okuma Helios MH 7' referenced.

Putting a light weight reel on a heavier rod ends up being tip heavy and out of balance, the heavier reel on a lightvweight rod will be OK, it just defeats your goal of a light weight outfit.

Quake n Shake went out of his way to weigh rods accurately, Rich in Co's long list both very helpful.

Good luck with your rod (hopefully reel very soon).

Tom


fishing user avatarbigbill reply : 

You still need to check the balance of the setup. Then add weight to the butt of the rod or swap reels till it balanced. For any newbies the balance matters when we all handle the rod with one hand in casting or reeling. Like Tom said it can be nose heavy. Then we're fighting it.


fishing user avatarJazzPipes reply : 
  On 9/30/2015 at 4:06 AM, WRB said:

JazzPipes,

Thank you for coming back.

Your Pro Qualifier weighs 8.8 oz, less line, the Quantum Smoke 6.7 oz, nearly 2 oz difference and would be a better choice with the new lightweight rod, the Q Smoke or Okuma Helios MH 7' referenced.

Putting a light weight reel on a heavier rod ends up being tip heavy and out of balance, the heavier reel on a lightvweight rod will be OK, it just defeats your goal of a light weight outfit.

Quake n Shake went out of his way to weigh rods accurately, Rich in Co's long list both very helpful.

Good luck with your rod (hopefully reel very soon).

Tom

Hey Tom, 

I thought the Smoke weighted around 3.5oz Where did I loose you on the math? I know man, my reel is big, what reels would you suggest for a rod between 3.5 and 4oz (probably around 7ft) I believe my budget would be 250


fishing user avatarJazzPipes reply : 
  On 9/30/2015 at 4:20 AM, bigbill said:

You still need to check the balance of the setup. Then add weight to the butt of the rod or swap reels till it balanced. For any newbies the balance matters when we all handle the rod with one hand in casting or reeling. Like Tom said it can be nose heavy. Then we're fighting it.

That is a totally new concept for me. I had no idea that balance mattered so much. Thanks for helping!


fishing user avatarJazzPipes reply : 
  On 9/29/2015 at 5:42 AM, Rich in Co said:

 

Here is s bunch of rod weights that was done on TT

 

  Manufacturers Model Power Action Length Weight in oz Weight in g Model Year                                                                
2
  Abu Vendetta M   6’3 4.4 oz 125g. 2010                      
3
  ABU Vengeance MH Fast 7’6 6.9 oz 196g. 2010                      
4
  ABU Garcia Vengeance MH   7’8 6.0 oz 170g. 2010                      
5
  ABU Garcia Vengeance VGC66-7       6.1 oz 173g.                        
6
  Airrus Co-Matrix 457 M M-F 7’0 5.2 oz 146g.                        
7
  Berkley Cherrywood (2-piece) M M-F 6’0 3.2 oz 90g. 2004                      
8
  Berkley AMP M   5’6 3.7 oz 105g. 2010                      
9
  Berkley Canadian Specialist MH M-F 6’8 4.8 oz 135g. 2005                      
10
  Berkley Lightning Shock MH Fast 7’0 5.0 oz 142g.                        
11
  BOF Custom (2-piece) L   7’0 3.5 oz 100g. 2009                      
12
  BPS Carbonlite MH Fast 7’0 4.5 oz 127g. 2010                      
13
  BPS Tourney Special M   8’6 7.4 oz 210g. 2001                      
14
  Cabelas XMLti XMLTI69DS     6’9 4.0 oz 115g.                        
15
  Cabelas XML 703 MH   7’0 5.5 oz 155g.                        
16
  Daiwa Steez MH Fast 6’3 3.4 oz 97g.                        
17
  Daiwa TriForce-Z (org 120g.) ML Mod 6’6 3.7 oz 105g. 2005                      
18
  Daiwa TriForce M   5’6 3.9 oz 110g. 2005                      
19
  Daiwa TDZL701MXB M Action 7' 4.2 oz                          
20
  Daiwa Megaforce M   6’0 4.4 oz 124g. 2002                      
21
  Daiwa Sol M Fast 6’6 4.5 oz 127g.                        
22
  Daiwa Procaster MH   6’6 5.1 oz 145g. 2010                      
23
  Daiwa Mike Iaconelli M   7’8 5.5 oz 155g.                        
24
  Daiwa Steez Werewolf M   6’6 3.3 oz 94g. 2010                      
25
  Daiwa TDZL701MHFB MH Fast 7’0 4.3 oz 122g.                        
26
  Damiki   M Fast 6’6 4.2 oz 120g. 2010                      
27
  Damiki Angel EX (2-piece) MH X-F 6’6 4.4 oz 125g. 2010                      
28
  Dobyns DX701C L Fast 7'   119g.                        
29
  Dobyns 734C G2       4.9 oz 140g.                        
30
  Dobyns 704CB glass G2       4.6 oz 130g.                        
31
  Dobyns 704CB       4.8 oz 145g.                        
32
  Dobyns 705CB       4.9 oz 140g.                        
33
  Dobyns DX744       5.2 oz 146g.                        
34
  Dobyns 705CB glass G2       5.4 oz 153g.                        
35
  Dobyns 735C G2       5.4 oz 153g.                        
36
  Falcon Cara CC-6-1610S       3.8 oz 109g.                        
37
  Falcon Cara 3 Mod 6’6 4.2 oz 120g. 2004                      
38
  Falcon Cara T7 MH Fast 6’6 3.5 oz 100g.                        
39
  Fenwick Techna AV M   6’0 3.8 oz 109g. 2007                      
40
  Fenwick Walleye Class M Mod 6’6 3.9 oz 110g. 2007                      
41
  Fenwick HMG Graphite M Fast 6’0 4.1 oz 117g. 2002                      
42
  Frontier MBR783 MH   6’6 4.3 oz 122g. 2007                      
43
  G-Blank Custom Shikari SHX L Mod 6’10 2.9 oz 83g. 2003                      
44
  G.Loomis CBR781 Bronzeback ML Mod 6’6 3.6 oz 102g. 2008                      
45
  G.Loomis BCR GLX 802 M X-F 6’8 3.8 oz 109g.                        
46
  G.Loomis MBR IMX 782 M Fast 6’6 4.0 oz 115g.                        
47
  G.Loomis BCR GLX 803 MH X-F 6’8 4.1 oz 117g.                        
48
  G.Loomis CB 847 Custom H ModF 7’0 4.1 oz 117g.                        
49
  G.Loomis SMR 814 CB MH ModF 6’9 4.1 oz 117g.                        
50
  G.Loomis BSR GLX 852 M Fast 7’1 4.3 oz 121g.                        
51
  G.Loomis MBR GLX 843 MH Fast 7’0 4.3 oz 121g.                        
52
  G.Loomis GLX BCR853 MH   7’1 4.5 oz 127g.                        
53
  G.Loomis MBR GLX 844 H Fast 7’0 4.6 oz 130g.                        
54
  G.Loomis BCR 893 GLX MH X-F 7’5 4.9 oz 140g.                        
55
  G.Loomis BCR GLX 875 MagH Fast 7’3 5.0 oz 142g.                        
56
  G.Loomis 842 GLX M Fast 7’0 4.1 oz 117g.                        
57
  G.Loomis IMX MBR783C MH   6’6 4.3 oz 122g.                        
58
  G.Loomis CBR845C H   7’1 4.6 oz 130g.                        
59
  G.Loomis SBR813C       4.7 oz 134g.                        
60
  G.Loomis NRX802C         97g.                        
61
  G.Loomis NRX893C         113g.                        
62
  Kistler Custom IM7 (2-piece) ML Fast 7’0 3.7 oz 105g. 2007                      
63
  Kistler Z-Bone Custom Micro H   7’0 4.0 oz 114g. 2010                      
64
  Kistler Z-Bone MH   8’0 4.1 oz 117g. 2010                      
65
  Kistler Magnesium Micro M   7’0 4.3 oz 122g. 2010                      
66
  Kistler LTX II MH Fast 6’9 4.5 oz 127g.                        
67
  Kistler LTX M   7’0 4.5 oz 127g. 2010                      
68
  Kistler LTX H   7’0 4.5 oz 127g. 2010                      
69
  Kistler LTA H   7’0 4.5 oz 127g. 2010                      
70
  Kistler Magnesium Micro MH   7’0 4.6 oz 130g. 2010                      
71
  Kistler LTA H   7’6 5.0 oz 142g. 2010                      
72
  Kistler Magnesium H   7’0 5.3 oz 150g. 2010                      
73
  Kistler Magnesium XH   7’0 5.4 oz 153g. 2010                      
74
  Kistler Magnesium Specialty H   7’8 6.3 oz 179g. 2010                      
75
  Kistler Helium APC MH   6’9 3.6 oz 102g. 2005                      
76
  Kistler Helium XH   7’0 5.5 oz 155g. 2008                      
77
  Lamiglas XCF705R glass       5.7 oz 162g.                        
78
  Lamiglas SR765R       6.3 oz 179g.                        
79
  Powell Max 703C MH X-F 7’0 3.9 oz 110g.                        
80
  Powell Max 702MLEF     7’0 3.3 oz 94g.                        
81
  Powell Max Glass 754CB       7.2 oz 204g.                        
82
  Quantum IM6 (2-piece) M Mod 6’0 2.9 oz 83g. 1998                      
83
  Quantum Affinity M   6’0 4.1 oz 117g. 2003                      
84
  Quantum Biffle H X-F 6’10 4.5 oz 127g.                        
85
  Quantum Smoke M F 7' 3.4 oz   2011                      
86
  Rapala Sportmen HM-30 M   6’0 4.0 oz 114g. 2006                      
87
  Rapala R-Type M Fast 6’2 4.0 oz 115g. 2010                      
88
  Rapala Sportsmen IM-6 M   6’6 5.2 oz 146g. 1999                      
89
  Shakespeare Agility (custom 2-piece) UL   7’0 3.9 oz 110g. 2008                      
90
  Shakespeare Intrepid (2-piece) MH   6’6 4.2 oz 120g. 2005                      
91
  Shakespeare Agility (org) UL   7’0 4.8 oz 135g. 2007                      
92
  Shakespeare Intrepid (T) MH   7’6 6.0 oz 170g. 2004                      
93
  Shimano Crucial Dropshot M Fast 6’6 3.5 oz 100g.                        
94
  Shimano Compre CPS-X60MA     6’0 3.6 oz 102g.                        
95
  Shimano Crucial M Mod 6’6 3.6 oz 102g. 2008                      
96
  Shimano Crucial CRS-66M     6’6 3.7 oz 105g.                        
97
  Shimano Crucial CRS-X63M     6’3 3.7 oz 105g.                        
98
  Shimano Cumara M X-F 6’8 3.9 oz 110g. 2010                      
99
  Shimano Cumara MH Fast 6’8 3.9 oz 110g. 2010                      
100
  Shimano Compre CPS-X66MB     6’6 3.9 oz 110g.    

 

Absolutely awesome list! I will check those for sure! thanks a lot man!


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 
  On 9/30/2015 at 5:14 AM, JazzPipes said:

Hey Tom,

I thought the Smoke weighted around 3.5oz Where did I loose you on the math? I know man, my reel is big, what reels would you suggest for a rod between 3.5 and 4oz (probably around 7ft) I believe my budget would be 250

The rod does weigh 3.5 oz, The smoke reel weighs 6.7 oz!

The balance is usually weighed with the reel mounted on the rod, the fulcrum balance point being the reel front foot or or rod lock nut area on the rod. This is a personal balance point, you may like a little different.

I have never understood rod butt weights, it's a band aide for unbalanced outfits...why buy a light weight rod and add weights? I know some pro's do this for jerk bait rods to help pivot the rod in the hand. To me a balanced outfit doesn't need any weight added.

Tom


fishing user avatarbigbill reply : 
  On 9/30/2015 at 5:15 AM, JazzPipes said:

That is a totally new concept for me. I had no idea that balance mattered so much. Thanks for helping!

It depends on how tired you feel after making 1,000 casts, to balance or not to balance. Good to check it anyway. To me the rod weight wasn't that important. The balance is more important. I make sure my setups are spot on anyway. There more comfortable.

Can some over reel a rod? I find on spinning rods a #30 reel can be way off. A #25 or #20 reel can be spot on. At the same time were matching the reel size to the rod. I'm finding between the brand's it's easy to miss match the reel.

I want the setup to be comfortable too. I want the best performance too.

I'm not a pro nor claim to be but I'm serious and have the heart of a pro.

Exercise is the key to lasting.


fishing user avatarJazzPipes reply : 
  On 9/30/2015 at 5:30 AM, WRB said:

The rod does weigh 3.5 oz, The smoke reel weighs 6.7 oz!

The balance is usually weighed with the reel mounted on the rod, the fulcrum balance point being the reel front foot or or rod lock nut area on the rod. This is a personal balance point, you may like a little different.

I have never understood rod butt weights, it's a band aide for unbalanced outfits...why buy a light weight rod and add weights? I know some pro's do this for jerk bait rods to help pivot the rod in the hand. To me a balanced outfit doesn't need any weight added.

Tom

Thanks Tom!


fishing user avatarJazzPipes reply : 
  On 9/30/2015 at 5:32 AM, bigbill said:

It depends on how tired you feel after making 1,000 casts, to balance or not to balance. Good to check it anyway. To me the rod weight wasn't that important. The balance is more important. I make sure my setups are spot on anyway. There more comfortable.

Can some over reel a rod? I find on spinning rods a #30 reel can be way off. A #25 or #20 reel can be spot on. At the same time were matching the reel size to the rod. I'm finding between the brand's it's easy to miss match the reel.

I want the setup to be comfortable too. I want the best performance too.

Exercise is the key to lasting.

Man, Ill tell you... 1000 casts? Would make me cry. Im such a light weight. A fishing session (from the bank) usually lasts 4 hours to me. I walk a lot, change lures, walk some more, refill the water bottle... Maybe I get 600 casts in that time? I dont know, but what I do know is that after a focused session, Im SUPER tired. My arms wont kill me but they feel very heavy. Is that normal for you too?


fishing user avatarbigbill reply : 

Change reels out till it's balanced,

Back when I fished 24/7 for over three months straight I swear my knuckles would drag on the ground the first few trips when I left. I use lures only even to this day. Constantly casting is one Heck of a upper body workout.

Start counting your casts you maybe surprised.


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Off top a cast and retrieve pace of 1 per minute is too fast for every hour you are on the water.

60 casts per hour X 10 hours = 600 casts without stopping.

Tom


fishing user avatarQUAKEnSHAKE reply : 
  On 9/30/2015 at 1:57 AM, JazzPipes said:

That Quantum is looking good to me, how do you think the combo will workout with a BPS pro qualifier?

If you mean the Medium it would balance very well but may not have the power you are wanting. I had a Veritas 1.0 M/F micro guide rod and if you want more power than your M/F Veritas 2.0 the Medium/fast Quantum Smoke wont have it. It seems to have more power than many other Medium rated rods but not the Veritas. This is another area that isnt standardized, company A's medium not the same as company B's medium. The Medium Heavy Fast Smoke like Smalljaw67 has may work better.


fishing user avatarcottny27 reply : 

I have a 6'9" MH Smoke and its quite stiff for it's rating imo.  It is very light.  I balance all of mine pretty much at the reel seat before I even add the reel.  The difference between a bottom contact setup and a cranking setup is the weight of another quarter or so for me.  I don't understand why people see an issue with putting weights at the rod butt.  Whats the difference between that and using a heavier reel?  You are still adding weight to your setup.  Most of your top of the line reels these days are under 6-7oz.  Of course, all the balancing talk is just personal preference.  


fishing user avatarRobert Riley reply : 

If you want a light rod that's well balanced, check out Dobyns, I've got a rod from each of their levels, $100-$350 and they start light and just get lighter and lighter. You might want to check out their Savvy or Fury series. 




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