A new 8 strand offering from PP. Can't wait to get my hands on this.
It's good to see they jumped on the wagon.
I want it now!!!!
The colors look awesome. Definetly like the timber brown color.
I'll try it. I really like Fireline, but I'll give this a shot.
They should of kept the moss green color. I don't care for the brown and aqua green. Another disappointment from the Shimano family.
That's some spensive line!
On 7/15/2011 at 9:51 PM, Midnight Splash2 said:They should of kept the moss green color. I don't care for the brown and aqua green. Another disappointment from the Shimano family.
I really liked the moss green color too but i think that the brown will be good for my waters. I liked the red alot also
On 7/15/2011 at 10:41 PM, midnighthrasher said:I really liked the moss green color too but i think that the brown will be good for my waters. I liked the red alot also
They dont care too much about the color of the line at Midnight anyways.
What is the benefit of the 8 strands compared to the original power pro? Sorry this may seem like a dumb question but I'm not huge on braided line -- although I plan an switching a few flipping setups here soon to use braid and fluoro leaders. Thanks in advance!
My guess is it's quite a bit smoother and quieter going through the guides.
The hihger thread/strand count changes the weave, making the line more round and smooth. This changes how the braid contacts the guide insert from a hack saw to a fine tooth saw. The rounder thread is supposed to dig into itself much less on a spool.
LOL, a saw blade is EXACTLY what a line company wants to use as ad hype.
On 7/15/2011 at 11:33 PM, J Francho said:LOL, a saw blade is EXACTLY what a line company wants to use as ad hype.
LOL. It's a good thing I do not represent them or make ads eh? It was just the best way I could describe it lol. More strands = more frequent but smaller ridges in the line, kind of like a finer tooth saw lol.
Official disclaimer: most guide insert materials used in production rods are hard enough to withstand the sawing of your braided line.
On 7/15/2011 at 9:51 PM, J Francho said:That's some spensive line!
I'm not seeing a price anywhere. What's the expected cost for a 300yd spool?
On 7/15/2011 at 11:38 PM, Skunked in DR said:I'm not seeing a price anywhere. What's the expected cost for a 300yd spool?
Check out Tackle Warehouse.
$20 for 150 yds
$35 for 300 yds
Power Pro Super Slick Line 20lb 300yd Aqua Green $39.99
Sufix 832 Braid Lo-Vis Green 20lb 300yd $34.99
Hmmmnn..Both are 8 strands and claim they are rounded and smooth but the other one is $5 more. I think i have to wait till someone have used both and concludes that PP Slick is worth the extra $5, cause i'm pretty much satisfied with the smoothness of 832.
Thanks for clarifying.
One last question:
Since this line is "softer," wouldn't this also aide in knot tying for leaders? My guess is that the the more harsh line (original power pro) would not be as susceptible to holding its form when tied with fluoro?
the 8 strand improvement is not really for knot joining advantages it is more for smoother casting and retrieving. Just use Alberto knot for joining leader with braid and you don't have to worry about knot slipping or bulky joint regardless of braid brands.
actually, this line was ready to go last year but was held up because of a lawsuit over potential patent infringement regarding the 8-weave braiding process (from sufix no doubt). i hope they keep power pro "classic" around too.
I hope they've kept their diameter to strength ratio super small like the regular PP. If they have somehow just taken the old line and made it smoother and quieter without changing any of it's positive attributes...that would be an awesome line.
I'm interested in seeing that timber brown in the water.
I'll give it a shot when/if I can find some in a clearance bin somewhere. Until then, my old-fashioned yellow Power Pro will do just fine.
So.....is this going to share the characteristics of dental floss like the other 8-strands I've tried?
If the diameter of the new line is the same as the old line in the same pound test, that means each thread of the weave is smaller. That in itself would make it smoother.
A super line cannot damage a rod guide, the line material is a plastic. The line guide grooving comes from silica (sand) particles suspended in the water that gets embedded in the line. Basically your dirty line cuts your rod guides. That can happen with mono too but just takes longer since the solid line cannot hold has much "dirt".
On 7/16/2011 at 9:35 AM, Wayne P. said:A super line cannot damage a rod guide, the line material is a plastic. The line guide grooving comes from silica (sand) particles suspended in the water that gets embedded in the line. Basically your dirty line cuts your rod guides. That can happen with mono too but just takes longer since the solid line cannot hold has much "dirt".
Right On
What Wayne stated is especially true in dingy water that's caused by suspended sediment and not algae.
Roger
Darn it, I had it in my hands on Sunday and didn't put two and two together that its the new stuff. I picked it up and showed it to my brother in law, and laughed cause it matches his Shimano terez rod...ugh I thought it was hollow ace.
I'll stick with the outdated stuff, serves me well. I never hear any noise, knots hold , guides are in perfect shape, never use anything heavier than 20# original PP, line handles fish easily up to 50#, bigger too. Can't see a reason to spend double the money to be in the same place.
On 7/16/2011 at 12:23 AM, baluga said:Power Pro Super Slick Line 20lb 300yd Aqua Green $39.99
Sufix 832 Braid Lo-Vis Green 20lb 300yd $34.99
Hmmmnn..Both are 8 strands and claim they are rounded and smooth but the other one is $5 more. I think i have to wait till someone have used both and concludes that PP Slick is worth the extra $5, cause i'm pretty much satisfied with the smoothness of 832.
I'm satsified with smoothness of Sufix 832 to. Just not the diameter to strength ratio. 832 is bigger than the old Sufix Performance Braid. To me, (on a BC) the old PP's 12-50 was the perfect diameter to strength ratio for almost all flipping/pitching apps, t-rigs c-rigs, and jigs. The only time I would deviate from it would be if I were flippin into the really heavy salad.
Thinking about giving Toray Finesse Braid 55# a try until Super Slick becomes available. I'm using 832 now, but I got a new flippin reel so it's time to try something new...d*#n bait monkey has me in a Kimura hold lately.
You 832 guys, does it sink? And I don't mean after it's waterlogged (I use KVD L&L).
On 7/16/2011 at 9:23 PM, J Francho said:You 832 guys, does it sink? And I don't mean after it's waterlogged (I use KVD L&L).
I haven't noticed if it floats or not but it is the only braid I've used so far that has memory
Good I will try it when it come out. Hate the sound of braid going through recoil guides especially.
Surface tension is enough to keep 832 floating... after the surface tension is broken 832 will slo.o.o.w..w..l...y sink. Similar diameter fluoro sank for me 2 - 3 times faster. I have liked fishing thin 832 (10lb & 20lb) with a fluoro leader.
oe
Powerpro's answer to Samurai?
On 7/16/2011 at 9:23 PM, J Francho said:You 832 guys, does it sink? And I don't mean after it's waterlogged (I use KVD L&L).
It may sink a little faster JF. Nothing to write home about. I do like the line though.
edit- it shows up alot more if you're fishing a fluoro leader. Say you were to throw PP w/fc leader and 832 w/fc leader then you would see it alot more.
On 7/17/2011 at 5:43 AM, philsoreel said:It may sink a little faster JF. Nothing to write home about. I do like the line though.
edit- it shows up alot more if you're fishing a fluoro leader. Say you were to throw PP w/fc leader and 832 w/fc leader then you would see it alot more.
832 sinks very slowly.can still be used with topwaters.i love the line the more i use it.
On 7/17/2011 at 12:02 PM, dodgeguy said:832 sinks very slowly.can still be used with topwaters.i love the line the more i use it.
Me too. There's a break-in that happens after three or four trips and you're like...dang I really like this line now, but it's not over. It just seems to get better and better the more you fish it. I like the 40# but I love the 10# on spinning gear. It's alot stronger than it's rated.
On 7/17/2011 at 4:04 AM, South FLA said:Powerpro's answer to Samurai?
No powerpros' answer to suffix 832. That's who they compete with.
On 7/17/2011 at 11:16 PM, Dwight Hottle said:No powerpros' answer to suffix 832. That's who they compete with.
I fear it isn't much of an answer.
oe
On 7/17/2011 at 11:16 PM, Dwight Hottle said:No powerpros' answer to suffix 832. That's who they compete with.
Suffix I am sure has a larger market share than Samurai so it makes sense, plus bang for buck its better than Samurai, I like how soft and quiet the Samurai is though, so far so good with my 832 too.
832 s the most sensitive braid i've used.since it sinks you get a more direct line to your bait.i didn't think you could make braid more sensitive but i was wrong.i think the gore fiber also helps it.
On 7/18/2011 at 2:00 AM, OkobojiEagle said:I fear it isn't much of an answer.
oe
What do you base your statement on ?
Grey Wolf, Most (if not all) of the major players in the braid game have had 8 carrier lines out for several years now... and the coating is a step behind several of their competitors as well... not to mention the price isn't better than what's out there right now either. Just not anything in that offering that I'm not already fishing with Sufix 832, NanoFil and Spider Wire Ultra-Cast. If your looking for this new PP to be bringing something new to the market... I don't think so. Your mileage may vary.
oe
Someone should make a fluoro core, round braided line. Sinks, slack line sensitivity, super strength. I'm a genius! Send me my millions!
That's my knock on braid, slack line sensitivity has me fishing other lines for some things, that I would actually prefer braid, if not that one drawback.
On 7/18/2011 at 12:57 PM, J Francho said:Someone should make a fluoro core, round braided line. Sinks, slack line sensitivity, super strength. I'm a genius! Send me my millions!
That's my knock on braid, slack line sensitivity has me fishing other lines for some things, that I would actually prefer braid, if not that one drawback.
So basically hollow core braid with fluoro in it?.
On 7/18/2011 at 12:57 PM, J Francho said:That's my knock on braid, slack line sensitivity has me fishing other lines for some things, that I would actually prefer braid, if not that one drawback.
Try a spool of the new NanoFil. I was impressed by how many slack line bites I could feel.
oe
I'm not a big fan of braid except for cat fishing but that line looks great, I didn't like how the spectra handled. Too bad it's expensive.
Personally, the braid that is most impressive to me is Kanzen. It's a higher density with far less slack line belly. It does sink faster than other braids, I would assume it's due to the finish. It's smoother than any other braid I've felt to this point. Thus far, I'm impressed with it. I hate superlines on the whole, I'd rather fish heavy fluoro for flipping and pitching the junk. I break off fewer fish than my counterparts using 25lb Abrazx to their 50lb braid. I'm satisfied with the results of that run, but the advantage of braid's casting behaviour excels in some situations. Kanzen will be the answer for me.
Hmmmn Kanzen.. interesting although the diameter is much thicker compared to Sufix and PP. Kanzen has 20# rating with 10# dia. mono equivalent compared to Sufix and PP w/ only #6 dia mono equivalent for the same 20# rating. I use braid to get the max line capacity out of a small reel size.
Gotta ask a stupid question but who makes kanzen? I've never heard of it.
Kansen is made by Seaguar.