bet that kills the action of your bait...
http://www.worldfishingnetwork.com/gear/post/never-tie-knots-again
I love that the guy in the video's name is Richard but his nickname is "Ben". Well alrighty then. Whatever you say "Ben".
I don't think that will catch on until they can get the size of that weld down though. maybe 1/4 of that length and I'd be more inclined to say it could catch on.
Lol, Ben indeed. Ben talkin bs about the effectiveness of his product.
Seriously, though, something like that for splices would be awesome. If it was way smaller and thinner and worked on braid... If it was a completely different product
Hmmm...I wonder if the length of the "weld" can be shortened?
I wasn't totally sold until the product developer said "Bigger Fish"....that did it for me!!
Got to be the greatest thing since the Pocket Fisherman!!
Roger
I think I'll pass on the line welder until I see some solid evidence of its capabilities. That line cutter they have for $119 surely looks like the real deal though. I think I'll have to get one of those.
Bigger fish? How?
More time fishing? I am fairly confident I could tie a "reliable" knot faster than that contraption.
But, if they can get it to be faster (than the blazing speed it is already at) and the weld smaller. It just might catch on.
Just another piece of something to take up more room in the boat and doesn't do anymore than I can do without it.
You have got to be kidding me. What is next you type in some specs and a 3D printer pops out a lure already attached to your line. I thought fishing was supposed to be getting away from the everyday life and silly technology we have to deal with.
Stop buying crappy line.....problem solved
Another product that catches more fisherman than fish.
On 7/16/2015 at 7:55 AM, ErikMon Bills Fan said:You have got to be kidding me. What is next you type in some specs and a 3D printer pops out a lure already attached to your line. I thought fishing was supposed to be getting away from the everyday life and silly technology we have to deal with.
Or just skip all the unnecessary middle steps and 3D print the fish.
I'm pretty good at calling out gimmicks and such, but I think I like this thing. The biggest pain/waste of time in fishing is tying knots. I've been thinking about this a lot recently - we have great line (like mono), we have great hooks, we have great spinning reels, we have great rods, and yet we still have to tie stupid knots. Why in the world has not the fishing line companies or some other company made a device that instantly fuses the line/or ties it automatically? So, if that line welder can be used on all types of line from 1 pound to 100 pound, I say it just might be a good thing to have and wave of the future. Of course for it to be really good it needs to effective on mono, fluoro and braid.
Does it come in green Ben?
I think that is pretty cool. I wouldn't use it unless they could get the weld thinner and shorter, but its an interesting idea. If they could get it down to a similar size as a normal knot I'd be interested.
Something like that would be useful for making heavy fluoro leaders. Looks faster than crimping.
Look up Jack hooks. ("If you are still tying Knots, You Don’t Know Jack!")
At least it's probably a cheaper alternative.
On 7/16/2015 at 8:49 PM, J Francho said:Something like that would be useful for making heavy fluoro leaders. Looks faster than crimping.
It didn't show or tell how long you have to keep the line in the device to do the "weld".
I suspect the "weld" is hot melt glue.
from what i saw it ties like a rapala knot or loop knot, but didn't look like it cinched down too tight on the eye of the hook....
also looks like a gimic, but also ONE MORE THING TO CHARGE THE BATTERY ON...... no thanks.
Buy one now, in 6 months they will be out of business.
Judging by the sheer volume of knot threads started hear, is say there's a huge business opportunity for such a device. Thing is, it has to work. Get the tool right, and it will sell.
I thought this was a joke! Below the video it says go to their website for more information, but there's no information there about this line welder. And I can't find any information about "Professional Fisherman - JC Flaherty" either. I assumed this wasn't a real product but a commercial from an old SNL show... ha-ha
My reaction when they finally showed the weld in the video. Mind you only one time.
Lol^ mine too. I think they're on to something here, though.
they've got a vision alright, could be a game changer some day. i think they need to work the kinks out first and honestly i think showing the actual "weld" and some real life demos and such would be a plus, they only showed it for a second in the video.
another question to raise would be abrasion resistance on that weld. if it's some kind of a hot glue substance i don't think it would be very resistant to abrasions.
The only use I could see this for would be when tying 80-100lb mono for sturgeon leaders for me. You could still hide the weld in the bait.
On 7/17/2015 at 2:59 AM, J Francho said:Judging by the sheer volume of knot threads started hear, is say there's a huge business opportunity for such a device. Thing is, it has to work. Get the marketing right, and it will sell.
Fixed that for you
Many of the knot threads deal with diameter and strength of joining knots. Don't notice knots like a palomar, loopknot, clinch and improved clinch giving people near as many fits. The improved clinch knot in the video didn't appear to be tied all that well. One reason people use FC is for stealth, the weld didn't look to be very stealthy. Takes but a few seconds to crimp line, the welder even at the speed of an eye blink time saved is minimal. I will say different line sizes requires different crimping sleeves, I'll give the welder a slight nod. However is the welder going to work with wire leaders, as no mention was made probably not. Fish are caught from less than pound to well over a 100 using nothing but an ordinary clinch to attach a hook or lure, pull thru is rare and simply singeing the tag end is a good preventative. The bass fisherman in the video addresses the issue of tying many knots, lots of bass fisherman have a bevy of rods already tied up, when they change lures quite often are using something like a duolock.
It's a cute little toy but that's all it is, a toy. Well tied knots already have a proven track record, if the item is still around in a couple of years (which I doubt) I'll check it out then. In the meantime I'm not loosing any fish because my hook or lure knot is failing.
$119.00 for the regular and $229.00 for the Limited Edition. Yikes!
OK, now this one is clearly more useful. And as they say in the video - you can do it with one hand! lol.
https://youtu.be/LZNrmjBPIew
Not a bad product at all.
On 7/16/2015 at 10:37 AM, hoosierbass07 said:if that line welder can be used on all types of line from 1 pound to 100 pound, I say it just might be a good thing to have and wave of the future. Of course for it to be really good it needs to effective on mono, fluoro and braid.
See I actually think that is it's biggest detractor currently. That would be great for 100# but it's just too big and clunky to be viable for finesse diameter lines, cranking etc. if they had a much smaller version they might sell a bunch to bass fishermen. Not like that though IMO.
One pass thru the hook eye, one loose loop. Now the hook eye swivels and wears the line in the eye area. There's no clinch.
Would be great for handicapped. Missing fingers, hand, arm.
Regarding the diameter of the weld, is it not simply the welding together of two pieces of the same line? Which makes it smaller in diameter than every other knot I've ever seen at two diameters. The length is probably predicated on weld strength which will be proportional to length.
The weld can be located anywhere giving as big a loop as you want, so shouldn't kill lure action.
Good comments on handicapped value.
It will be interesting to see if it really can handle all lines, all diameters, possibly welds contaminated with dirt, scum, sun tan oil, in the rain, in the cold. I think it has a great chance to work for most conditions, but if not all conditions will it be worth the price? One last question would be how are the characteristics of the line changed with melting it? I would think the temp control would have to be very good.
But it is very clever, and I'm rooting for their success.
Convince the viewer that tying knots is very very difficult, and really is an "art form".....and they are not an artist. So give up on knots... CHECK
Convince the viewer I have discovered a way for them to bypass the "pain" of tying knots. CHECK
Show the viewer the ease of "welding" the line with the line welder. CHECK
Show the viewer the incredible end result...............................................................................................crickets.................................................did they just throw a slab of glue on the line?
Cue a big ESPN "C'MON MAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!"
On 7/20/2015 at 1:56 AM, Kyle46N said:Convince the viewer that tying knots is very very difficult, and really is an "art form".....and they are not an artist. So give up on knots... CHECK
Convince the viewer I have discovered a way for them to bypass the "pain" of tying knots. CHECK
Show the viewer the ease of "welding" the line with the line welder. CHECK
Show the viewer the incredible end result...............................................................................................crickets.................................................did they just throw a slab of glue on the line?
Cue a big ESPN "C'MON MAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!"
Humph, there's always a skeptic
Ah cum-on, rerun the video and as soon it passes '304' you will hear the Product Developer say:
"If you wanna catch BIGGER FISH"!! This is a Must-Have toy.............I mean tool.
if only it could Snell a flippin hook with a bait keeper. What a PITA that can be!
On 7/20/2015 at 3:45 AM, RoLo said:Humph, there's always a skeptic
Ah cum-on, rerun the video and as soon it passes '304' you will hear the Product Developer say:
"If you wanna catch BIGGER FISH"!! This is a Must-Have toy.............I mean tool.
They should have said "landed" bigger fish, a knot or weld doesn't catch fish the lure does. This is gimmick for the guy that has everything and doesn't know what to do with his millions.
If one is having knot problems, one needs just to go back to re learn the basics, this toy will not land any more fish than a well tied knot.
I bet I can tie the knot I use faster and I never have a knot breaking issue.
On 7/20/2015 at 3:01 PM, SirSnookalot said:They should have said "landed" bigger fish, a knot or weld doesn't catch fish the lure does. This is gimmick for the guy that has everything and doesn't know what to do with his millions.
If one is having knot problems, one needs just to go back to re learn the basics, this toy will not land any more fish than a well tied knot.
OH NO!
So you're saying the Product Developer was "Gilding The Lily"??
MAN I've been duped, never seen that one coming!
Roger
Fishermen can be gullible, always looking for the next magic bullet.
On 7/20/2015 at 10:47 PM, SirSnookalot said:Fishermen can be gullible, always looking for the next magic bullet.
Gullibility isn't limited to fisherman, it's cosmopolitan
Man, if this sucker is affordable like their line cutter, it should only run $600-700!! At that price I couldn't imagine not buying two so I can make two jumbo snot wads in front of my bait and really dupe those crafty bass. Plus I wouldn't have to learn the tricky art form of tying knots! It'll really come in handy since I know tying knots in any condition other than clear sunny skies and no wind will hamper my art forming ability! Besides, who doesn't want to catch bigger fish, just like they said in the video! I am totally sold on this! hahahaha
There are many thing I hate about bass fishing more than having to tie knots. I hate having to cast my lure out and then reel it back in. What I really hate is having to set the hook, that is almost unbearable. I hate having to watch my line and especially having to keep my eyes on a topwater lure so I know when I have to made that ungodly hook set. They need to take care of these inconviences before worrying about a line welder.
I live with the daily guilt of losing my 13 year old son's (at least) 5 lb smallie at the boat last year because I tied a bad knot. It was the biggest smallmouth I've seen in person. It rolled and took off under the boat as I was reaching down to get it. We watched as the bent rod slowly straightened as the knot untied. All that was left when he reeled in the line was a gnarled pigtail. I watched a million youtube videos that night on how to tie knots. I feel better in my knot tying skill now, but if a device like that works, it would be a nice compliment to a tackle box.
On 7/16/2015 at 7:55 AM, ErikMon Bills Fan said:You have got to be kidding me. What is next you type in some specs and a 3D printer pops out a lure already attached to your line. I thought fishing was supposed to be getting away from the everyday life and silly technology we have to deal with.
Not sure about that...I use all kinds of technology when I fish:
...that's a quick baker's dozen...I'm sure others might find things I missed.
I am excited about this product. As a Viet Nam vet, I was exposed to Agent Orange and as a result my hands and feet are totally numb...the numb feet present a separate problem. Last summer I went to Michigan to go fishing. In a week of fishing I didn't catch one fish, in fact I never had a bite...I couldn't tie a knot...well I did tie one and it took me 2 1/2 hours, but by then it was almost dark...I would suggest to all of you expert naysayers to put on a pair of gloves and go tie your fishing knots.
Ill be heading back to Michigan in a few weeks to go fishing...I hope I am as smart as all of you.
I'll stick to my Palomars, my $120 can be well spent elsewhere. Unless you're missing a finger or have bad eyesight, this is just another gimmick IMO
On 7/19/2015 at 10:08 PM, Bruce424 said:Would be great for handicapped. Missing fingers, hand, arm.
brain...
Didn't even open the link. Did it look like this?