Best baitcasting reel under 180$ 2024
Brandon Elliott reply :
Needs some reel help curado k, revo sx, tatulla ct type r,or lews super duty g speed spool or any other reels you guys swear by max 180 dollars going on a 7'2 medheavy fast action rod all purpose
Tywithay reply :
My vote is the Gen3 Revo Premier. It's actually a $300 reel and performs great. You can buy them on ebay for $160 all day long.
Boomstick reply :
I like the Tatula SV if I plan on throwing anything 3/8oz or less. The SV spool adds braking which is particularly effective with lighter lures.
That said, the Curado K is a smoother reel. Another one that is worth checking out is the Pflueger Supreme XT. While not as popular, it's as light as the Curado 70 but holds line like a Curado K and overall is a very similar reel at a slightly lower price point and just as smooth.
optimator reply :
Curado K
LonnieP reply :
Tatula SV
evilcatfish reply :
Tatula SV and Fuego both provide a lot of bang for your buck
illinifan4152 reply :
Curado k. Curado 70 is a real nice reel in this class too
Beetlebz reply :
I just picked up a tatula SV. So far it's been absolutely bombing lures and it's accurate as a sniper rifle. I'm told the regular tatula casts heavy lures better, I can't imagine how good it slings cranks.
Happy so far
Brandon Elliott reply :
The tatula sv doesn't seem to be able to take that much line comparatively any of you guys having issues with that
CroakHunter reply :
On 5/1/2018 at 2:03 AM, Brandon Elliott said:The tatula sv doesn't seem to be able to take that much line comparatively any of you guys having issues with that
It's not made to hold a lot of line. Only 100 yards of 14lb test.
Tywithay reply :
On 5/1/2018 at 2:03 AM, Brandon Elliott said:The tatula sv doesn't seem to be able to take that much line comparatively any of you guys having issues with that
It holds 100 yards of 14lb line. You're not going to cast any typical bass lure even close to that far. It's a non-issue.
BrackishBassin reply :
On 5/1/2018 at 2:19 AM, Tywithay said:It holds 100 yards of 14lb line. You're not going to cast any typical bass lure even close to that far. It's a non-issue.
For me, it can frustrating because it means I need to spool it more often. I don’t have that reel, but I can see where less line could make people uncomfortable.
Boomstick reply :
On 5/1/2018 at 2:03 AM, Brandon Elliott said:The tatula sv doesn't seem to be able to take that much line comparatively any of you guys having issues with that
I have used as high as 17lb line on mine, which gives me probably 85-90 yards and that's not only adequate, but it's ideal so I don't waste line. I have ran it visibly low, but never spooled it.
This way I get two fresh spools from a 200 yard spool of 15 or 17lb line.
Brandon Elliott reply :
So between the tatula sv and the lews bb1 pro everyone seems set on the tatula
Tywithay reply :
On 5/1/2018 at 5:10 AM, Brandon Elliott said:So between the tatula sv and the lews bb1 pro everyone seems set on the tatula
I liked the previous BB1 Pro a lot. It had the carbon handle and casted a mile. The newer one almost seems like a downgrade, for the same cost, in my opinion.
Riazuli reply :
Curado K for longer, smoother casts or Tatula SV for less backlash. I think the Curado K feels more natural on the cast, where the Tatula SV has a magnetic like feel due to magnetic braking.
Tywithay reply :
On 5/1/2018 at 11:44 AM, Riazuli said:Curado K for longer, smoother casts or Tatula SV for less backlash. I think the Curado K feels more natural on the cast, where the Tatula SV has a magnetic like feel due to magnetic braking.
Daiwa's magforce Z is actually more of a centrifugal system than it is a magnetic system. The magnets only slow the spool when it is spinning at full speed, much like the brake blocks on centrifugal reels. Unlike stationary magnetic systems, there is zero effect on the spool as it slows down.
Riazuli reply :
On 5/1/2018 at 12:33 PM, Tywithay said:Daiwa's magforce Z is actually more of a centrifugal system than it is a magnetic system. The magnets only slow the spool when it is spinning at full speed, much like the brake blocks on centrifugal reels. Unlike stationary magnetic systems, there is zero effect on the spool as it slows down.
Initially, you can't tell, but once the sv spool slows down and the magnetic brakes kick in, that magnetic feel is there for me. I'm not adverse to it, just prefer straight centrifugal brakes at least in terms of casting feel.
Beetlebz reply :
I've spent the last few days fishing the knobs off my tatula SV which is new to me. The other reel I've had in my lap the whole time has SVS brakes. It's a pretty stark contrast, the difference between the SVS brakes and the magforce brakes. It still kinda surprised me that it feels so mushy yet still bombs lures just as far.
The one thing I have to say is the convenience factor is big, bigger than I thought it would be. I change lures, measure it in my mind and decide that I need to go up, let's say two clicks. I turn the brakes up two clicks... if I'm wrong and it needed 3, I might have a couple loose wraps on the spool. With the SVS brakes you gotta be Johnny on the spot with your thumb if you're wrong. It's quite a bit less forgiving. With that being said, I don't have any major issues with either one, just that one is quicker and easier to adjust and more forgiving.
DomQ reply :
On 5/2/2018 at 12:53 AM, Riazuli said:Initially, you can't tell, but once the sv spool slows down and the magnetic brakes kick in, that magnetic feel is there for me. I'm not adverse to it, just prefer straight centrifugal brakes at least in terms of casting feel.
I agree with this
Dtrombly reply :
Tatula SV is a great reel. Especially when you can get them for way less than retail on eBay. I got mine new for $129 shipped.
Riazuli reply :
On 5/1/2018 at 12:33 PM, Tywithay said:Daiwa's magforce Z is actually more of a centrifugal system than it is a magnetic system. The magnets only slow the spool when it is spinning at full speed, much like the brake blocks on centrifugal reels. Unlike stationary magnetic systems, there is zero effect on the spool as it slows down.
I'm pretty sure the sv braking system does the opposite of what you said, where the induct rotor pulls away from a fast spinning spool, leaving little to no braking, and as the spool slows, the rotor gets closer to the magnetic field and slows the spool. If there were no magnetic braking as the spool slowed, you'd backlash easier. Don't get me wrong, I love my tatula sv, and it's simply a different reel from the Curado K. Both have their advantages and disadvantages for me.
Tywithay reply :
On 5/3/2018 at 12:26 PM, Riazuli said:I'm pretty sure the sv braking system does the opposite of what you said, where the induct rotor pulls away from a fast spinning spool, leaving little to no braking, and as the spool slows, the rotor gets closer to the magnetic field and slows the spool. If there were no magnetic braking as the spool slowed, you'd backlash easier. Don't get me wrong, I love my tatula sv, and it's simply a different reel from the Curado K. Both have their advantages and disadvantages for me.
The SV system is very similar to MagZ, except it has (for lack of a better term) a governor, or limiter, on the inductor. The MagZ inductor only works when the spool is at the highest speed. The SV inductor will pop out when the spool exceeds a certain speed, then it slowly works back from the magnets. That's what keeps it from backlashing. The only difference between it and MagZ is that it offers that bit of braking on the back end of a cast when the spool is slowing and the inductor is sliding back into place.
BaitFinesse reply :
The Air Brake of the SV and Air spools operate the same as the Magforce Z/V spools in that the acceleration of the spool increases braking by extending an induction rotor (inductor) closer to the magnets and moving it further away as the spool deaccelerates. The Air Brake spools brake more throughout the cast due to a combination of softer inductor springs, deeper/longer inductors operating closer to the magnets and the the way the ramp shaped Air Brake itself operates. The SV are more willing to extend the inductor, do so at much lower speeds and for longer than the Magforce Z and V spools.
Wurming67 reply :
On 5/1/2018 at 2:19 AM, CroakHunter said:It's not made to hold a lot of line. Only 100 yards of 14lb test.
It would be great if more reel companies made reel spools to hold less line for bass reels.
CroakHunter reply :
On 5/3/2018 at 3:53 PM, Wurming67 said:It would be great if more reel companies made reel spools to hold less line for bass reels.
I think so, but I remedy that by putting mono backing on all my reels except for my shallow spooled ones
Riazuli reply :
On 5/3/2018 at 12:36 PM, Tywithay said:The SV system is very similar to MagZ, except it has (for lack of a better term) a governor, or limiter, on the inductor. The MagZ inductor only works when the spool is at the highest speed. The SV inductor will pop out when the spool exceeds a certain speed, then it slowly works back from the magnets. That's what keeps it from backlashing. The only difference between it and MagZ is that it offers that bit of braking on the back end of a cast when the spool is slowing and the inductor is sliding back into place.
From Daiwa's website:
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| SV CONCEPT Specially developed material is applied to the induct rotor, which is exposed out from the spool when rotating at high speed. As the spool slows, the induct rotor moves back towards the magnetic field which brakes the spool according to the weights of different types of lures." That confirms what I was saying about the magnetic brakes being applied as the spool slows, so it's not slowly working back from the magnets, but towards the magnets. It wouldn't make sense to mag first and then let off as that would be killing all of your initial force and momentum on the cast. It makes sense to mag afterwards, toward the end, to help prevent back lashing. |
On 5/3/2018 at 2:53 PM, BaitFinesse said:The Air Brake of the SV and Air spools operate the same as the Magforce Z/V spools in that the acceleration of the spool increases braking by extending an induction rotor (inductor) closer to the magnets and moving it further away as the spool deaccelerates. The Air Brake spools brake more throughout the cast due to a combination of softer inductor springs, deeper/longer inductors operating closer to the magnets and the the way the ramp shaped Air Brake itself operates. The SV are more willing to extend the inductor, do so at much lower speeds and for longer than the Magforce Z and V spools.
Read above...
Fishingmickey reply :
Being a shameless Shimano fan boy, you might check out the Casitas, Citca, and as others have said Curado 70 and the "K".
FM
Jaderose reply :
The one that feels best in your hand and does what you need/want it to do.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 5/3/2018 at 7:34 PM, Riazuli said:From Daiwa's website:
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Read above...
I would recommend you do a little more research into how Magforce Z an Air Brake work before trying to take on Daiwa nerds. Don't put too much stock in some text on Daiwa english site translated from japanese. They both do indeed extend the inductor outwards at the beginning on the cast to increase braking and braking decreases as the spool slows and the inductor seats. This makes sense because this is how you stop a backlash from occurring as soon as you cast. This is also how centrifugal brakes operate as well in that they extend and contact the race as the spool accelerates and fall away as the spool slows. The difference is that centrifugal brakes completely turn off once they are no longer contacting the race where as the Magforce Z and Air Brake will still brake when the inductor is seated as the spool slows albeit less than when the spool was accelerating. I have ported Air Brake spools that allow me to see the inductor move by just flicking the spool. I have a Magforce V Airy Red Pixy that I can hear the inductor seat as the bait nears the water on a cast. Just play with any Magforce Z/V or Air Brake reel by turning the mag dial and flicking the spool and observing the spools behavior. The spool will be more controlled for the entirety of its rotation as the dial is increased.
Here is a vid on Magforce 3D that shows the movement of the inductor. Non Magforce 3D reels behave like a Magforce 3D reel set to All Around. Magforce 3D reels use the same spools as Magforce Z reels.
Skip to 2:10
Wurming67 reply :
On 5/3/2018 at 3:53 PM, Wurming67 said:It would be great if more reel companies made reel spools to hold less line for bass reels.
Riazuli reply :
On 5/4/2018 at 1:44 AM, BaitFinesse said:I would recommend you do a little more research into how Magforce Z an Air Brake work before trying to take on Daiwa nerds. Don't put too much stock in some text on Daiwa english site translated from japanese. They both do indeed extend the inductor outwards at the beginning on the cast to increase braking and braking decreases as the spool slows and the inductor seats. This makes sense because this is how you stop a backlash from occurring as soon as you cast. This is also how centrifugal brakes operate as well in that they extend and contact the race as the spool accelerates and fall away as the spool slows. The difference is that centrifugal brakes completely turn off once they are no longer contacting the race where as the Magforce Z and Air Brake will still brake when the inductor is seated as the spool slows albeit less than when the spool was accelerating. I have ported Air Brake spools that allow me to see the inductor move by just flicking the spool. I have a Magforce V Airy Red Pixy that I can hear the inductor seat as the bait nears the water on a cast. Just play with any Magforce Z/V or Air Brake reel by turning the mag dial and flicking the spool and observing the spools behavior. The spool will be more controlled for the entirety of its rotation as the dial is increased.
Here is a vid on Magforce 3D that shows the movement of the inductor. Non Magforce 3D reels behave like a Magforce 3D reel set to All Around. Magforce 3D reels use the same spools as Magforce Z reels.
Skip to 2:10
Thanks for the video, that is very informative although as you mentioned, not exactly like the sv braking system. I was mainly debating a comment about the inductor moving away from the magnets as the spool slowed as others had stated vs what the Daiwa website says very clearly: that the rotor moves closer to the magnets as the spool slows, inducing braking. I get the centrifugal comparison for the beginning of the cast - never debated that. I'm pretty sure Daiwa knows the difference between toward and away in translation...if they got that wrong, seems like a pretty big goof that I plan to get clarification on directly from them.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 5/4/2018 at 8:22 AM, Riazuli said:Thanks for the video, that is very informative although as you mentioned, not exactly like the sv braking system. I was mainly debating a comment about the inductor moving away from the magnets as the spool slowed as others had stated vs what the Daiwa website says very clearly: that the rotor moves closer to the magnets as the spool slows, inducing braking. I get the centrifugal comparison for the beginning of the cast - never debated that. I'm pretty sure Daiwa knows the difference between toward and away in translation...if they got that wrong, seems like a pretty big goof that I plan to get clarification on directly from them.
the induct rotor, which is exposed out from the spool when rotating at high speed. As the spool slows, the induct rotor moves back towards the magnetic field which brakes the spool according to the weights of different types of lures."
Daiwa goofed. In their own words they state that the induction rotor is outwards at high speed and then moves back toward the magnetic field. The 1st part makes sense but that last bit is poorly worded. How do I move back towards?
The inductor is always in the magnetic field and moves more inductor into the magnetic field as it extends into the magnetic rings at higher speed and less of the inductor is in the field at lower speeds when just the edge of the inductor is in the magnetic rings.
It should read:
the induct rotor, which is exposed out from the spool when rotating at high speed. As the spool slows, the induct rotor moves back from the magnetic field which brakes the spool according to the weights of different types of lures."
Riazuli reply :
On 5/4/2018 at 9:14 AM, BaitFinesse said:the induct rotor, which is exposed out from the spool when rotating at high speed. As the spool slows, the induct rotor moves back towards the magnetic field which brakes the spool according to the weights of different types of lures."
Daiwa goofed. In their own words they state that the induction rotor is outwards at high speed and then moves back toward the magnetic field. The 1st part makes sense but that last bit is poorly worded. How do I move back towards?
The inductor is always in the magnetic field and moves more inductor into the magnetic field as it extends into the magnetic rings at higher speed and less of the inductor is in the field at lower speeds when just the edge of the inductor is in the magnetic rings.
It should read:
the induct rotor, which is exposed out from the spool when rotating at high speed. As the spool slows, the induct rotor moves back from the magnetic field which brakes the spool according to the weights of different types of lures."
Interesting - gonna have to go straight to daiwa on this one! Thanks for sharing, I'll mention what you said as far as which way things move and magnetic force applied at what time when I talk to them.
MotoSD reply :
As others have said, both the curado k and tatula sv are great reels. For me, the SV shines on lighter lures but wouldnt hesitate to throw something heavier. My favorite thing with the daiwas is how the lure falls vertical without stripping line by hand. on the curado k, with the brakes and spool tension set correctly, you may have to strip line by hand depending on the lure weight.
I use both everytime im on the water, but for different presentations. If I had to pick one brand in the <$200 class for all my reels, id probably go daiwa. If you asked me 2 years ago, id have said shimano all the way.
Graham reply :
Curado.
Riazuli reply :
On 5/4/2018 at 9:14 AM, BaitFinesse said:the induct rotor, which is exposed out from the spool when rotating at high speed. As the spool slows, the induct rotor moves back towards the magnetic field which brakes the spool according to the weights of different types of lures."
Daiwa goofed. In their own words they state that the induction rotor is outwards at high speed an loopd then moves back toward the magnetic field. The 1st part makes sense but that last bit is poorly worded. How do I move back towards?
The inductor is always in the magnetic field and moves more inductor into the magnetic field as it extends into the magnetic rings at higher speed and less of the inductor is in the field at lower speeds when just the edge of the inductor is in the magnetic rings.
It should read:
the induct rotor, which is exposed out from the spool when rotating at high speed. As the spool slows, the induct rotor moves back from the magnetic field which brakes the spool according to the weights of different types of lures."
This video hits it on the nail and supports what has been said about the inductor moving toward the magnetic field initially and away as the spool slows. Funny as the guy mentions the discrepancy between that and the Daiwa website. I'll be calling later today, sending an email now.
I have to add that this doesn't change my personal feeling that the sv reel feels a little "magneticy" on the cast. Again, don't get me wrong, I love the reel, it casts and feels overall amazing. I just personally prefer the feel of the cast on the straight centrifugal Curado K. As I had mentioned before, both reels have their advantages and disadvantages for me. It also makes sense why I notice the magnets more later as the initial force and speed of the spool makes that feeling less noticeable, where there may be less magnetic force at the end of the cast based on what y'all have said and the video I linked, but the force is there nonetheless. Oh... And... May the 4th be with you ????
Riazuli reply :
So, I sent Daiwa an email and they are now correcting their website! I've got their new description attached - before it hits the shelves 
BaitFinesse reply :
On 5/5/2018 at 12:06 AM, Riazuli said:So, I sent Daiwa an email and they are now correcting their website! I've got their new description attached - before it hits the shelves
That is still a little off base. Even when the inductor is seated there is magnetic braking just much less than when it was extended. It also varies based on individual spool braking profile from inductor length and spring rates.
bigfruits reply :
curado 70/71 or a used Aldebaran Mg
Riazuli reply :
On 5/5/2018 at 2:53 AM, BaitFinesse said:That is still a little off base. Even when the inductor is seated there is magnetic braking just much less than when it was extended. It also varies based on individual spool braking profile from inductor length and spring rates.
Yeah, technically it's not entirely unhampered at slow speed - should say not as affected. Main thing is they addressed the direction... That was a pretty big goof. I'll still email back to mention the unhampered part.
Riazuli reply :
On 5/5/2018 at 2:53 AM, BaitFinesse said:That is still a little off base. Even when the inductor is seated there is magnetic braking just much less than when it was extended. It also varies based on individual spool braking profile from inductor length and spring rates.
Here's the new website description:
| SV CONCEPT The induct rotor, made of strong, lightweight Super Duralumin, is exposed out from the spool and into the magnetic braking field when rotating at high speed, preventing overrun. As the spool slows, the induct rotor moves back towards the spool, away from the magnetic field, which allows the cast to carry further for maximum distance. |
BaitFinesse reply :
On 5/5/2018 at 4:57 AM, Riazuli said:Here's the new website description:
Good enough I guess but that is more of a Long Cast mode Magforce 3D description. SV is more controlled than that. A better description would be to explain how Magforce Z works then make comparisons with the SV Air Brake stating how the Air Brake extends its inductor sooner, longer and at lower spool speeds than the Magforce Z reels. This Air Brake and the light weight duraluminum spool together allow the SV concept to rely on brake settings instead of spool tension allowing the user to change bait weights without adjusting spool tension and to use no tension on the spool at all for free bait movement or some stuff like that. They can even throw in their Zero Adjuster knob into the mix and promote the ability to make adding spool tension difficult as a feature.
Junger reply :
On 5/5/2018 at 5:50 AM, BaitFinesse said:This Air Brake and the light weight duraluminum spool together allow the SV concept to rely on brake settings instead of spool tension allowing the user to change bait weights without adjusting spool tension and to use no tension on the spool at all for free bait movement or some stuff like that.
I just read this thread and what you said here just hit the nail on the head for me. I have 2 Tatula CT Type R's and I bought a SV TW. I was trying to adjust the SV TW like my Type R, mid brake setting, tension knob to where the bait dropping straight down didn't cause backlash. Distance was just OK on the SV TW that way....one day I took it out and had the settings on 18 brake, very loose knob tension and flung it out with the same lure and it went a good 10-15 yards farther.
Beetlebz reply :
I run my spool tension on my SV all the way loose. I run it so loose I take the knob off and leave it at home! Seriously though, I have it screwed down just tight enough to eliminate side to side play... I haven't found a bait that the brakes couldn't handle on they're own yet.
Tywithay reply :
On 5/5/2018 at 12:24 PM, Beetlebz said:I run my spool tension on my SV all the way loose. I run it so loose I take the knob off and leave it at home! Seriously though, I have it screwed down just tight enough to eliminate side to side play... I haven't found a bait that the brakes couldn't handle on they're own yet.
I don't even tighten it that much. My spool can still wiggle a bit and I have yet to backlash that SV spool.
Riazuli reply :
Good to know regarding the spool tension staying looser on tat sv's
On 5/5/2018 at 5:50 AM, BaitFinesse said:Good enough I guess but that is more of a Long Cast mode Magforce 3D description. SV is more controlled than that. A better description would be to explain how Magforce Z works then make comparisons with the SV Air Brake stating how the Air Brake extends its inductor sooner, longer and at lower spool speeds than the Magforce Z reels. This Air Brake and the light weight duraluminum spool together allow the SV concept to rely on brake settings instead of spool tension allowing the user to change bait weights without adjusting spool tension and to use no tension on the spool at all for free bait movement or some stuff like that. They can even throw in their Zero Adjuster knob into the mix and promote the ability to make adding spool tension difficult as a feature.
Good enough is right, lol. The fact that their description went for as long as wrong as it was speaks to who's actually questioning it...I appreciate your in depth analysis of it - not sure how many sv users really consider that much, but the more you know and understand your tech, the more you can appreciate and take advantage of it!
J.Vincent reply :
If you are also planning on doing any light inshore saltwater fishing, then definitely get the Shimano Curado K. But if you are only doing freshwater bass , then I would actually look at the Revo X or Origin C before I considered the Revo SX. Both the Revo X and the Origin C perform at a much higher level than their price point would indicate. I'd put them on par with most any $130-$150 dollar reel.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 5/5/2018 at 11:08 AM, Junger said:I just read this thread and what you said here just hit the nail on the head for me. I have 2 Tatula CT Type R's and I bought a SV TW. I was trying to adjust the SV TW like my Type R, mid brake setting, tension knob to where the bait dropping straight down didn't cause backlash. Distance was just OK on the SV TW that way....one day I took it out and had the settings on 18 brake, very loose knob tension and flung it out with the same lure and it went a good 10-15 yards farther.
That is how Daiwa recommends setting up SV reels. You want some side to side play on the spool. A lot of their newer reels are coming out with a Zero Adjuster which is basically a CC knob that is set from the factory and hard to turn to keep guys from cranking down on the spool tension.
LonnieP reply :
I always set my SV’s spools up so that there is side to side movement. I think the people that complain about casting distance don’t have them set up properly.
lmbfisherman reply :
Casting distance vs Accuracy...accuracy 90% for me. Why I pick reel, my personal preference. If I were you, I’d get a Curado 70 or K. If you want advice which is better for you, go in store and test how it feels for you.
Junger reply :
On 5/5/2018 at 9:33 PM, LonnieP said:I always set my SV’s spools up so that there is side to side movement. I think the people that complain about casting distance don’t have them set up properly.
That was my case, and for about 2 months too. I watched video reviews of the Tatula SV TW, and not one of them I saw talked about how to set it up. I did see the Reel Test review of the CT Type R vs Tat SV TW and the Type R outcasted it by about 8 yards on average, so I figured the way I had it set up was about right. Now I'm bombing the SV TW and I wonder if the Reel Test guy had his SV TW set up right too. I feel like it's a totally different reel now in my hands.
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