I am looking to start fishing jigs this season. I'm wondering what type and test line to use for fishing jigs? (mono, fluro, braid) Also, if you use braid, do you direct tie or use a fluro/mono leader? Thank for the help.
I like 20lb floro for jigs. I use to use 50lb braid, but I can feel a bite on slack line with floro whereas I couldnt with braid.
On 12/4/2011 at 7:18 AM, Bass_Fanatic said:I like 20lb floro for jigs. I use to use 50lb braid, but I can feel a bite on slack line with floro whereas I couldnt with braid.
Yep, same for me. I like braid for fishing really heavy cover (65#), but will fish 20# flouro on a jig rod as well - as long as it has VERY little stretch.
Braid with no leader unless it's crystal clear with sparse cover then I'll add a foot or two of 17-20lb fluorocarbon leader tied with an alberto knot.
Braided line has significantly improved my jig fishing.
Braid, with or without leader, in appropriate diameter. (Casting jigs. I don't pitch and/or flip, so I can't talk about those.)
I don't think I'm EVER going back to fluoro. It sinks, so that you can't see it, and most fluoros have a lot of stretch, as much as monos in some cases.
Leader: I like to have a leader. Mostly for abrasion resistance, and also to protect the rod since I set my drag pretty tight. I don't believe the fish cares whether it can see the line or not.
Not trying to highjack the thread but for the Braid users what color do you go with red, yellow or green?
On 12/4/2011 at 8:19 AM, ChiCityBasser said:Not trying to highjack the thread but for the Braid users what color do you go with red, yellow or green?
Green. But only because it's easier to find green samurai.
When I'm older, maybe I'll have to switch to yellow. LOL.
Anywhere from 14 to 20 pound fluoro depending on available cover. If I'm getting into really thick grass, I'll swap over to 50 pound braid. As much as I don't like the management issues with most fluoros, especially in heavier lines, you can't beat the sensitivity of it. Especially on a slack line. I "love" braid. The problem with it is if you have slack in the line. You loose all feeling then. The other reason I've gone more towards fluoro is because of how it handles abrasion. I primarily fish limestone strip pits down here and the rocks and ledges will shred braid instantly.
If I'm going to a place like Okeechobee though, I'll put braid on almost every rod.
I have always used 18 to 20 lb Fluro for my jig fishing, but i have bought 50# power pro for next year. I have never used braid, so let's how it goes.
Braid...direct tie...and more specifically Daiwa Samurai 40lb(8lb diameter equivalent)
Jeff
I fish gin clear water most of the time, so I go with fluoro (Trilene 12# this past year).
My jig rod is going down to 10lb YZ Hybrid this year.
Even with 10lb line, I'm able to turn any fish around here, before it buries itself in cover.
My jig tackle is way downsized compared to some of you guys.
I use 12lb mono and flouro a lot.It doesn't bother me a bit to throw 10lb if its abrasion resistant. I'll even fish 8lb for smallies if the water calls for it. Usuaully only the mono during the hotter months because there are not many flourescent flouro's. This is for structure fishing mostly (points, humps, etc.) If i'm flipping and pitching into cover I'm usually using a creature style bait but if I was using a jig it would be with 40-50lb braid.
I use 3 sizes. 12 for flouro for clear water or finesse jigs, 15 flouro for all other open water and light structure. Then 30lb braid for everything else. I tie braid directly to the jig.
15 or 17lb fluoro for me
The vast majority of my jig fishing is done with either 12 or 15 pound fluorocarbon. I refuse to use braid, having lost far too many fish to bites on the fall; can't see them and can't feel them until it's too late to set the hook. Fishing jigs on braid in deep water leads to the line acting like a sail and moving the jig, requiring me to upsize jigs. I use braid for a few very specific things, casting jigs is not one of them. Some will say that fishing jigs on braid have improved their rates tremendously. I say the same thing of high quality fluorocarbon.
On 12/8/2011 at 10:16 PM, Hooligan said:The vast majority of my jig fishing is done with either 12 or 15 pound fluorocarbon. I refuse to use braid, having lost far too many fish to bites on the fall; can't see them and can't feel them until it's too late to set the hook. Fishing jigs on braid in deep water leads to the line acting like a sail and moving the jig, requiring me to upsize jigs. I use braid for a few very specific things, casting jigs is not one of them. Some will say that fishing jigs on braid have improved their rates tremendously. I say the same thing of high quality fluorocarbon.
Very interesting. Most of my jig fishing is done in wood cover, and I have always used braid. I love the "connected" feel I get when there is no wind, but recently I have been fishing jigs on structure ponds rather than cover ponds. When the wind kicks up I HATE using braid. I can't feel my jig crawling along the rocks, and I sure as heck can't feel a light bite.
I like the instant hooksets with braid, and have never fished 1/2 oz+ jigs on flourocarbon heavier than 14#. Hopefully soon I'll be throwing jigs on 20# Shooter.
The only concern I have with flouro is the stretch, and not getting a strong, hard hookset.
14-25 pound floro for me. I hate braid with jigs unless I'm flipping grass.
FatG-We fish 1/2oz football jigs down to 50ft on 14lb floro at deep pits, Table Rock, and Lake of the Ozarks. I've stuck fish up to 8lbs and never felt like the stretch was a problem if that helps your confidence with using floro for jigs.
I use 15 pound and 17 pound Vicious Fluorocarbon when I fish jigs.
16# or 14# Toray Superhard Upgrade.
For flipping and pitching jigs,30lb or 50lb braid, tied direct. No need for fluoro leaders there. Jigs go into dark nasty places where line visability is the least of your problems. Now if were talking clear water, finesse jigs, dragging football jigs, sparce cover and/or smallmouth fishing etc......., then I use a fluoro leader, 8,12,or 17 lb test, on 10,20,or 30 lb braid.
I am using #20 Sunline Sniper for casting football jigs as well as flippin timber with jigs and creature baits.
Both. 17+ lbs fluoro is so heavy when you have a lot of line out, that it will transmit bites and everything else well. Braid being non-stretch is also excellent at transmitting the same info. Each has strengths/weaknesses so I use whichever is appropriate at that time. I love each one.
Pitching/fliping: If im around and heavy cover i like to throw it on 65lb power pro. I use green, If you think about all the stuff thats in the water around those fish i cant see how i tine piece of braid in a natural color would spook them. (However i read a article about John Crews win on the Elites last year and he was flipping the first day with braid and was hardly getting bit in thick mats, he said he switch to flouro and that made all the difference, I would think that what was turning the fish off was the sound of the braid on the vegetation rather than the visibility of it but then again im not an elite series pro). IF i am fishing lighter cover i like to use 20-17lb flouro because i like to be able to feel it better if i get it on the fall when i have a slack line. But if you're a good line watcher you can see the bite with braid better IMO.
Swiming/ Football jigs: I only use 15-17lb flouro for this unless im swimming a jig through grass depending on the type of grass i will use braid to get them out easier.
Hope this helps. Try it both ways and see what suits you best.
On 12/4/2011 at 8:19 AM, ChiCityBasser said:Not trying to highjack the thread but for the Braid users what color do you go with red, yellow or green?
Green 50# Power Pro.
12lb Nanofil might be a consideration. The benefits of braid with the slack line sensitivity of a fluoro line.
oe
17# XPS Fluorocarbon line for me. Direct tie to jig.
50lb vicious braid with a 5'-6' 20lb vicious pro elite fluoro leader. i use braid w/wo a fluoro leader for pretty much everything.
I usually throw 65# Braid (power pro)
I put some 20# flouro on at the end of the year when all the grass and pads had thinned out. I may keep the flouro on for the spring then back to braid when the cover gets thick again.
15LB or 20lb Big Game
I recently switched my jig rod from 50# braid to P-Line FloroClear, specifically 20#. I have to say, I'm pretty impressed so far. I agree with Hooligan in that a very high quality flouro is an outstanding line for fishing jigs, and in some cases, a better option than braid. I have used 20# Super Hard Upgrade as well as 20# Super FC Sniper before switching back to braid.
Someone recommended the FloroClear to me, so I bought a spool to see what they were talking about. Pretty low stretch. I'm getting solid hooksets on long casts fishing footballs in a new to me pond. Not as sensitive as a real flouro, but the sensitivity is still there. As long as you split/thin the weedguard, reel all the way down to the fish, and swing hard, you'll be fine. It's an odd transition from instant hooksets with braid to longer, more defined ones with a non-braid, but I actually like it.
What's a good size fluoro to spool on a BC, the heaviest jigs I use are 3/4oz (most are 1/2)? I would like to use the same setup for deep cranks, if possible.
I'll use anything from 6# fluoro for little spider jigs on up to 80# braid for heavy slop. Match the line to the cover and the weight of the jig. In a general sense, a MH/F rod, and 14# fluoro or 40-50# braid will be fine.
I fish a lot of clear rocky lakes...and catch roughly half smallies and half LMB's.
I use three lines, which all seem to work well for bottom contact baits.
Seaguar 12 lb abrazx
Sunline Sniper FC 12 lb
Toray Superhard Upgrade Soloroam 10 lb -- expensive but the best longest lasting strongest line I've fished...and it has a higher breaking point than other fluoro's thus the smaller lb test...could probably even get by with 8 lb
On 12/14/2011 at 11:22 PM, J Francho said:I'll use anything from 6# fluoro for little spider jigs on up to 80# braid for heavy slop. Match the line to the cover and the weight of the jig. In a general sense, a MH/F rod, and 14# fluoro or 40-50# braid will be fine.
Thanks for the advice!
On 12/9/2011 at 6:29 AM, Bluebasser86 said:14-25 pound floro for me. I hate braid with jigs unless I'm flipping grass.
FatG-We fish 1/2oz football jigs down to 50ft on 14lb floro at deep pits, Table Rock, and Lake of the Ozarks. I've stuck fish up to 8lbs and never felt like the stretch was a problem if that helps your confidence with using floro for jigs.
Bluebasser86 we should hook up some time and hit the water. I live in the Topeka area and fish a lot of the same lakes. I have two private lakes I can get you on both around 260-400 acres that would blow your mind for big largemouth...one of them has some good smallmouth fishing too.
Hit me up at sam150s@hotmail.com if you want to get out sometime. My usual partner has been getting a little too many honey-do's on the list from the old lady and is hard to get out enough. Always enjoy fishing with new people.
Most of the time when I'm throwing a jig, I like to throw them in heavy cover, so I prefer 50# braid.
I use straight braid most of the time 30# have had no issues with this. sometimes if i'm fishing in open water when the water is super clear i will add a flouro leader, but only if I really have to.
I use 50 lb power pro on my jig rod. I fish a strip mine that has crystal clear water (20 ft visibility) and i have never had a problem with the braid. I feel when it comes to jigs, that if the fish isnt turned off by the weed guard, it isnt going to care about my line.
I have seen and used flouro and braid for jigs.
Just depends on the bottom and the structure I will encounter.
Virginia tidal rivers can have barnacles on piers and pilings so braid is a must.
Lakes and ponds are usually safe for flouro other than if you will be fishing the jigs in rocks and stumps like on Buggs Island.
I would think you have to make the decision based on the waters you fish.
On 12/19/2011 at 10:40 AM, Sam said:I have seen and used flouro and braid for jigs.
Just depends on the bottom and the structure I will encounter.
Virginia tidal rivers can have barnacles on piers and pilings so braid is a must.
Lakes and ponds are usually safe for flouro other than if you will be fishing the jigs in rocks and stumps like on Buggs Island.
I would think you have to make the decision based on the waters you fish.
Fluoro has better abrasion resistance than braid.
On 12/19/2011 at 12:00 PM, Packard said:Fluoro has better abrasion resistance than braid.
I thought it was the other way around...no?
Some braids are better at abrasion than others, but in general, they aren't very tough in this department. Put it this way, abrasion resistance will not make any list of pros for using braid.
On 12/19/2011 at 11:20 PM, J Francho said:Some braids are better at abrasion than others, but in general, they aren't very tough in this department. Put it this way, abrasion resistance will not make any list of pros for using braid.
Would it be a pro for FLouro?
It depends on the specific line. InvisX is soft, a bit stretchy, but it's clear and sinks. It isn't super abrasion resistant, but somewhat better. Some the really tough fluoro don't are tough to manage on spinning and casting gear.
65# Spiderwire all the way, down here I take a black sharpie marker and color the line about 6 ft before the lure.
It is true in most cases braid is not as abrasion resistant as fluoro, however some fluoro's have no better or worse abrasion properties then a good Mono or Copoly line. One thing to remember Braid vs Fluoro. If Fluoro gets nicked by anything or starts to fray it will break with little effort. If Braid frays it will hold up quite well for a long time so you have more then adequate time to retie. Not so with Fluoro. Jim
20# flouro or 50-65# braid depending on the cover
Braid in the grass
Flouro I throw in pads or reeds.
Often I just throw braid b/c it is awesome.
it depends on the type of cover your fishing. I fish rocks a lot and braid just does'nt work for me. it seems to get fraid to easily and you need a dowel or something to get the jig out of a jam. I have tried every kind of line and keep going back to Silver Thread Excalibur co-polymer. low stretch, low memory, and really holds up to abrasion. also works great for casting so I use it on all my reels.
I've had braid snap on cast and backlashes, but only because of severe shock. I've never broken off a fish with braid, and neither have my partners. And that includes Largies up to 7.5lbs and Muskie u/Pike up to 14lbs + with no leader. If people are consistently losing fish, even 5lb+, because they're braking braid, there is something odd going on.