Just spent 20 minutes trying to close the side plate on my curado 200k after making a simple brake adjustment.
It seems like if the end nearest the thumb bar is flush, the end closest to the external dial is off, and come versa.
Worked out of the box, casted only a few times and has been hanging on my rod rack. I'm baffled. HELP!!!
If it is anything like curado I, You have to release that tension spool knob a whole lot.
On 4/14/2018 at 10:20 AM, JustJames said:If it is anything like curado I, You have to release that tension spool knob a whole lot.
Attempted that, and even removed the spool. Did not work...
On 4/14/2018 at 10:20 AM, JustJames said:If it is anything like curado I, You have to release that tension spool knob a whole lot.
Took me 15 minutes to figure this out once.
On 4/14/2018 at 10:37 AM, Vilas15 said:Took me 15 minutes to figure this out once.
I'm on an hour plus of searching online and trying everything under the sun... And supposed to take it out to use tomorrow ????
Check on brake blocks one might be in the way.
On 4/14/2018 at 11:02 AM, JustJames said:Check on brake blocks one might be in the way.
I've tried with them all "on" and all "off". Is that what you mean? Or is there something else I can do?
Sorry if that's a silly questions but this is my first Shimano and a new braking system to me.
Edited by rtwvumtneer6I'm not sure if I can be a lot of help. I don't have any reels in front of me. I think your problem is spool not sit in right, I would remove tension spool knob, try to fit spool in flush and try to close side plate. You can also try to fit spool into side plate and see if the brake block can fit in brass ring without any interfering.
On 4/14/2018 at 11:20 AM, JustJames said:I'm not sure if I can be a lot of help. I don't have any reels in front of me. I think your problem is spool not sit in right, I would remove tension spool knob, try to fit spool in flush and try to close side plate. You can also try to fit spool into side plate and see if the brake block can fit in brass ring without any interfering.
I've taken the spool completely out of the reel and it still does not lock closed.
Thanks @JustJames for trying!
Did you make sure the lash to open your side plate is not on close position?
On 4/14/2018 at 11:24 AM, JustJames said:Did you make sure the lash to open your side plate is not on close position?
Yea..
On 4/14/2018 at 11:02 AM, JustJames said:Check on brake blocks one might be in the way.
I've tried with them all "on" and all "off". Is that what you mean? Or is there something else I can do?
All of mine are the exact same way. It's a design characteristic of the i and the k series.
The tension knob has to be loosened, then click the spool closed... Then you need to retighten the cast control knob. I fumbled around with this when I was new to these reels too. But after a couple of times you'll get used to it. Not a big deal.
Unless of course you broke it lol. Which I'm sure you didn't.
I don't know now man, I wish I could help more but those are simple diagnoses for shimano reel. Your might be defective or someone with the same problem might be able to help more.
May be spring where the sideplate attached to frame not in place?
On 4/14/2018 at 11:33 AM, Poolshark said:All of mine are the exact same way. It's a design characteristic of the i and the k series.
The tension knob has to be loosened, then click the spool closed... Then you need to retighten the cast control knob. I fumbled around with this when I was new to these reels too. But after a couple of times you'll get used to it. Not a big deal.
Unless of course you broke it lol. Which I'm sure you didn't.
Thanks @Poolshark but here's a curve ball... It won't latch even if I remove the spool...
Dumb question but did you move the latch on the sideplate to closed by mistake after you opened it?
On 4/14/2018 at 11:57 AM, Maverick said:Dumb question but did you move the latch on the sideplate to closed by mistake after you opened it?
No, of it's in the "close" position it won't close at all. Seems like it's "locks" in 3 places that I can see and something is keeping the latch from rotating
Have you tried pushing on the side plate with more distributed pressure? Like hold both sides of the side plate down and try to latch it.
So the actual latch is frozen but it sits flush? I'm stumped if that's the case, there must be something lodged in there. I'm looking at mine and I can't imagine how this happened.
Good luck, sorry to hear about that.
On 4/14/2018 at 12:19 PM, Maverick said:So the actual latch is frozen but it sits flush? I'm stumped if that's the case, there must be something lodged in there. I'm looking at mine and I can't imagine how this happened.
Good luck, sorry to hear about that.
With the side plate open, the latch opens and closes properly. When I close the side plate the latch moves just enough to keep it closed, but will not lock into place. If I palm the reel or even bump it the side plate pops open
You either slightly bent one of the fins or there is something in the way. I'm actually trying to simulate the same thing and I can't.
Push the thumb bar up when you put plate back on
On 4/14/2018 at 12:35 PM, Maverick said:You either slightly bent one of the fins or there is something in the way. I'm actually trying to simulate the same thing and I can't.
I'm trying to figure out how something would have happened.... In fact tomorrow was the first time I was going to.fosh it hard. Spooled it, threw it around to get a general setting for the brakes and put it on the rack. Glad I checked before I was on the water.
Not sure what to do next... But I don't want to break anything further if it needs replaced.
@Maxximus Redneckus good thought. Didn't work. Seems like something isnt lining up. Not sure what else to do but turn to the warranty and wait...????
I feel for you, tomorrow is opening day at my spot and I'm inspecting all my reels. You've got me paranoid.
Well if anything this is a great example of why everyone needs multiple set ups.
Well, unfortunately it doesn't look like I'll be able to use it today, but I probably won't be sending it in until Monday so of anyone else has.any ideas, let me know!
Seems like you've tried just about everything.. My guess is there is something bent or broken somewhere - although something could just be stuck. I would check to see where things connect and see if there is a spring or something out of place or in the way
Here's a visual... Hope it helps.
On 4/14/2018 at 10:59 AM, rtwvumtneer6 said:I'm on an hour plus of searching online and trying everything under the sun... And supposed to take it out to use tomorrow ????
I thought for sure that would have been the problem since thats how the Curado I worked for me, but judging from the other posts it may be something more. If the side plate is sitting flush then I don't think its the spool tension, which I believe pushes the spool against the side plate to squeeze. In that case the side plate won't quite sit flush when trying to close it, which in turn means you can't latch it.
did you back off the brake pipe dial? it pushes the pipe forward when its on the highest setting and can cause the plate not to be able to latch.
also as mentioned the cast control knob. I have the I series and its the same.
I doubt you broke/bent something. just have to back everything off, put plate on, then readjust.
Send it in to Shimano, I had to send mine in too, they replaced the pinion gear, drive gear and a ball bearing. I got mine back in about 3 ish weeks. I had to pay shipping to them ($15) and they covered it back. They will want you to exchange it, if you can first.
Take a look at the inside of the swinging side plate. There is a nub or bump out that has to align with the mating recess on the reel body when you attempt to close the outer plate. Once you line them up it will close completely & lock. The inner portion has rotated causing misalignment & not completely seated. Also back off the cast control as somebody already mentioned. I have this kind of a problem on a newer conquest & the new bantam.
If it is sitting flush and the switch won't latch, then that's the issue...the switch is not catching whatever bracket it holds on to. Something may be bent there. When it is open and you move the switch, do you see like a blade or pin moving inside attached to the switch?
If the problem isn't whatever is directly attached to the switch then it is where the switch latches on.
Just want to thank everyone who participated so quickly. I tried all of your suggestions and I'll be exchanging reels. I should be able to get the replacement before my next big trip. Much appreciated.
Tight lines,
RT
Minnow, when you replace the cover, place it on the spool shaft with the front of the cover pointing down a bit. As you approach connecting it to reel body rotate it up as you connect to the reel body. See if this works.
After watching the vid... Unless the side switch was broken trying to force it.... It doesn't add up to me. I'd be curious to know what was actually wrong with it... If you decide not to trade it up, let us know what the culprit was. A broken latch? I've owned many of these reels and have broken all them down to the frames and have never seen anything like this
On 4/16/2018 at 10:17 AM, Poolshark said:After watching the vid... Unless the side switch was broken trying to force it.... It doesn't add up to me. I'd be curious to know what was actually wrong with it... If you decide not to trade it up, let us know what the culprit was. A broken latch? I've owned many of these reels and have broken all them down to the frames and have never seen anything like this
Unfortunately, we will probably never know. I've already sent the reel back for exchange.
It's a solid reel. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't be getting another. My guess would be I got the one reel out of every thousand or so that has a defect.
Waiting to see what arrives first, the new reel, or spring-like weather. In the meantime, I have more than enough options to get me through ????
I just also ordered that 200k, I still don't know what I'm gonna do with it, but found it on sale,Talk about bait monkey, huh? I hope I don't get a POS like yours.
You will love the smoothness of the 200K once you get it dialed in. I ended up with two brakes on and the outside dial on "3" for senkos with 15lb invizx. The micro gears are really nice. You may also find the cast control requires being a little tighter then usual, but has no effect on casting distance.
On 4/18/2018 at 6:40 PM, JustJames said:I just also ordered that 200k, I still don't know what I'm gonna do with it, but found it on sale,Talk about bait monkey, huh? I hope I don't get a POS like yours.
I think you'll be just fine. My new reel should arrive Wednesday!!
Curado k are in high demand right now their pumping them out like hot cakes factory defects are inevitable.
Mine arrived and I don't see any problem with it, open and close just like normal.
I’ve had this problem with my Curado I before, but after a few minutes of jimmying I got it closed properly. Sounds like you’ve tried just about everything though...let us know what you end up doing!
On 4/22/2018 at 11:57 AM, Graham said:I’ve had this problem with my Curado I before, but after a few minutes of jimmying I got it closed properly. Sounds like you’ve tried just about everything though...let us know what you end up doing!
New reel arrives tomorrow!
BTW I should mention that this order and exchange was all through TW. They made it really easy, and they are handling the warranty side of things. Shameless plug, but happy to give them high praise as well as my hard earned $$$.
@rtwvumtneer6 glad to hear it! Stick some West Virginia hogs for us and post some juicy photos
On 4/25/2018 at 10:33 AM, Graham said:@rtwvumtneer6 glad to hear it! Stick some West Virginia hogs for us and post some juicy photos
@Graham I'm actually in PA, but I'm a proud WVU grad.
May 2, 2018 7.52# Ask and you shall receive @Graham
On 5/3/2018 at 1:26 PM, rtwvumtneer6 said:May 2, 2018 7.52# Ask and you shall receive @Graham
Pennsylvania Pig for sure!
I’m just wondering did you ever figure out the problem because my reel is doing the same thing.
Loosen the spool tension? I think we are running way more spool tension than what the reel was designed for and this is causing the sideplate latching issue.
If I take the spool out the side plate still will not latch.
On 6/10/2019 at 1:04 PM, Fishingthewoods said:
On 6/9/2019 at 12:11 PM, Fishingthewoods said:I’m just wondering did you ever figure out the problem because my reel is doing the same thing.
I got the reel replaced. It was a defect. It happens and that's what warranties are there for. The replacement reel works great and I purchased another Curado after that without any issues.
what was the actual problem though? was it the latch switch to close not latching?
The cast control knob needs to be loosened for the side plate to close. My Curado K did the same thing and after while messing with it with some reading, the cast control knob is the issue. I sold mine not long after. Hated that about it. My Bantam MGL(currently own & love) and Chronarch MGL(sold) didn’t have this problem.
On 6/11/2019 at 8:41 PM, Hulkster said:what was the actual problem though? was it the latch switch to close not latching?
I'm not 100% sure. If I had the side plate open the latch worked. If I had to guess it was something internal that was getting in the way of the latch, or not aligning quite right.
Anytime you have such a high volume of production there are bound to be a few that have issues. Mine happened within the first 2 or 3 times I had it on the water and was deemed a factory defect. I'd suggest taking advantage of the warranty if that is still an option. You paid good money for it, you should have a reel that works properly.