Hey guys! I was just wondering why it seems funner to catch fish on spinning gear. It kinda makes it seem like they actually can put up a fight. Regardless of size. The only fish I've caught on my BC that put up a decent fight was a walleye. But it seems like we just drag fish in using BC. Maybe its just me wanting a fight. I might have Salmon fever. Lol.
I think it has to do with the size of the fish. Ive caught tons of big bass on my casting gear and only feel strained if I am using a crankbait rod. I think it has to do with the size and type of fish though. Hooking into a 20lb plus asian carp on my dobyns rod was a hell of a fight even with 15lb test.
Is funner even a word?
You're 2 setups are not created equal...lighter action spinning setup vs. your casting gear.
Many companies make stout spinning equipment. Example being saltwater gear. You could get a heavy action spinning rod + 40 sized reel + braid and "water ski" bass back to you the same way. All a matter of what you're more comfortable using.
The reverse is also true, they make finesse casting gear for lighter line and baits.
I challenged my kids when they used the word "Funner" and what they said to me made me crack up.
"Funner is more fun than more fun."
As for the post ... I don't know if it's "Funner" per-se. I will tell you that my spinning setups are generally with light line (8lb Invizx) so I get anxious when I have a big bite on it. Maybe that is where the "funner" part comes into play. It's kicks the nerves into high gear.
I believe it is a word because auto-correct didn't underline.On 5/21/2014 at 12:50 AM, mod479 said:Is funner even a word?
You're 2 setups are not created equal...lighter action spinning setup vs. your casting gear.
Many companies make stout spinning equipment. Example being saltwater gear. You could get a heavy action spinning rod + 40 sized reel + braid and "water ski" bass back to you the same way. All a matter of what you're more comfortable using.
The reverse is also true, they make finesse casting gear for lighter line and baits.
But back to the point. Spinning gear seems like more of a challenge to land a fish. Maybe it's just me. But I've caught salmon on BC and spinning, the spinning just seemed like it was more enjoyable. Just me though.
Exactly! I rather catch a fish on spinning gear. It's more enjoyable. But on a BC it's just dragging a fish in.On 5/21/2014 at 12:58 AM, Felix77 said:I challenged my kids when they used the word "Funner" and what they said to me made me crack up.
"Funner is more fun than more fun."
As for the post ... I don't know if it's "Funner" per-se. I will tell you that my spinning setups are generally with light line (8lb Invizx) so I get anxious when I have a big bite on it. Maybe that is where the "funner" part comes into play. It's kicks the nerves into high gear.
Exactly, that is your preference. Spinning is more fun for me because like Felix, I run light lines and lighter action rods that require you to play the fish a bit longer. Just last night I got my first sturgeon ever and on spinning gear, my shakeyhead setup at that. 7lb sunline biwako fluorcarbon, had a ball bringing it back to shore.
I will say, casting and even working a bait has become more enjoyable on a bait caster but I agree when a fish is on, I love controlling a fish with drag and the rod with spinning gear versus winching it in on a casting setup.
I'll go out on a limb and say its "more fun!"
Personally, they each have their own place when fishing. It all depends on my mood and what I'm throwing.
I just like to catch fish. Never noticed the rod.
I don't believe fishing with spinning gear is funner. I am of the opinion that a well balanced baitcaster in the proper power and action is more funner.
I just prefer fighting fish on lighter gear (when appropriate), casting or spinning. My new favorite combo is a DX 742c w/ a Lews TP. Catching a 1# bass on that set up is totally different than catching one on a heavy power rod.
For me it's 'funner'because it isn't restricted by lure weight requirements, wind conditions and is significantly more comfortable to use. With a more solid grip on the rod I only see spinning as being more capable of controlling fish and find less satisfaction with or need for casting tackle.
Well, I guess I'm in the middle here.
I used to think catching a fish on spinning gear was "funner", but since I began using lighter casting setups (Chronarch 50e's on two MF rods), I've been enjoying them almost more than spinning. In fact today was the first day in a couple months I even took a spinning rod with me. And the only reason was really to cast tiny baits.
Caught a 4.1 pound sow off a downed tree today on my Chronarch 50e worm setup and man did she strip line! It was awesome, just as fun as on spinning gear.
Casting gear is way more funner for me. I don't enjoy using spinning gear.
On 5/21/2014 at 12:58 AM, Felix77 said:
"Funner is more fun than more fun."
I like that !
Archichipocludométricamente chidísmo, that´s what my son says when something is beyond cool.
Its especially became more funner when I bought a gooder rod and reel setup.
On 5/21/2014 at 12:49 AM, tbone1993 said:I think it has to do with the size of the fish. Ive caught tons of big bass on my casting gear and only feel strained if I am using a crankbait rod. I think it has to do with the size and type of fish though. Hooking into a 20lb plus asian carp on my dobyns rod was a hell of a fight even with 15lb test.
Makes my hair hurt reading this. I use nothing but spinning gear, have caught fish over 150# and have posted the pictures. I routinely catch some of the most powerful fish imaginable on spinning gear, fish like permit, jacks, tarpon, amberjack, tuna and billfish, don't have a reel with anything heavier than 20# braid............cased closed on the size thing !
I can't think of any thing more fun than throwing a 1/4 or 1/2 oz bait into the surf on a medium spinning rod, hooking into a 30# jack or 40# tarpon and having to run that fish down on foot several hundred yards to avoid being spooled. I guarantee that fish won't be landed in 60 seconds, any one up for that? I live for this kind of action, not bad for a guy that's approaching being septuagenarian.
You'd be hard pressed to see any one using b/c gear down here, yeh spinning is more fun.
On 5/21/2014 at 4:30 PM, SirSnookalot said:You'd be hard pressed to see any one using b/c gear down here, yeh spinning is more fun.
I have thought about why this is and my conclusion is because that is what they see everyone else use. It's the same way around here to. If I go to the beach, there is a 99.9% chance that I will be the lone person using casting gear. Casting gear to most people is like an F-16 in 1941. They would know what is but not a clue as to how to use it.
More like its because trying to throw a weightless live shrimp into a 20+mph head wind with a casting reel is stupid, besides working out the birds nest would take away from beer drinking time for them. Most, a grand majority, of fishermen down here are not serious about angling enough to use casting. But still its not the best tool for the job when your on a wind swept coast throwing near weightless baits/lures.
On 5/21/2014 at 6:55 PM, 119 said:Most, a grand majority, of fishermen down here are not serious about angling enough to use casting.
True! Most people that I see are using whatever really old spinning outfit or a cheapie that they got at WalMart
Just because a baitcast reel is capable of winching fish in doesn't mean you have to. The rod should always be the primary fish fighting piece of equipment. Overly heavy tackle for any target species takes some of the fun and sport out of catching whether it's casting, spinning or fly tackle
On 5/21/2014 at 10:24 AM, Diggy said:Its especially became more funner when I bought a gooder rod and reel setup.
I think you mean "more gooder" you're welcome
I use a medium rod at all time. 30# pp on the BC and 15 or 20# on the spinning. So I'm not using heavy gear. It's somewhat light compared to some people here.On 5/21/2014 at 4:30 PM, SirSnookalot said:Makes my hair hurt reading this. I use nothing but spinning gear, have caught fish over 150# and have posted the pictures. I routinely catch some of the most powerful fish imaginable on spinning gear, fish like permit, jacks, tarpon, amberjack, tuna and billfish, don't have a reel with anything heavier than 20# braid............cased closed on the size thing !
I can't think of any thing more fun than throwing a 1/4 or 1/2 oz bait into the surf on a medium spinning rod, hooking into a 30# jack or 40# tarpon and having to run that fish down on foot several hundred yards to avoid being spooled. I guarantee that fish won't be landed in 60 seconds, any one up for that? I live for this kind of action, not bad for a guy that's approaching being septuagenarian.
You'd be hard pressed to see any one using b/c gear down here, yeh spinning is more fun.
On 5/21/2014 at 1:19 AM, Jdm219 said:Exactly! I rather catch a fish on spinning gear. It's more enjoyable. But on a BC it's just dragging a fish in.
I agree, but that heavy gear has it's purpose too. I love my spinning gear and don't go out without it but it could never set a hook with a frog- which I also love. I would even venture to say that frogs are even funner than spinning!
There's nothing I'd rather catch a fish on than a frog.
On 5/21/2014 at 12:31 AM, Jdm219 said:Hey guys! I was just wondering why it seems funner to catch fish on spinning gear. It kinda makes it seem like they actually can put up a fight. Regardless of size. The only fish I've caught on my BC that put up a decent fight was a walleye. But it seems like we just drag fish in using BC. Maybe its just me wanting a fight. I might have Salmon fever. Lol.
I'm not going to read through the replies, but simply say this.....if you want more fun from a baitcast combo/ don't use a Heavy rod with the drag locked down!
Try a Medium or Medium Light power rod spooled with 8# or even 6# mono or Fluorocarbon.
If I use mono it's 8# on a medium.On 5/21/2014 at 9:25 PM, new2BC4bass said:I'm not going to read through the replies, but simply say this.....if you want more fun from a baitcast combo/ don't use a Heavy rod with the drag locked down!
Try a Medium or Medium Light power rod spooled with 8# or even 6# mono or Fluorocarbon.
One thing that has not been mentioned is the construction of a saltwater spinning rod (conventional rod too) compared to freshwater models is a foregrip. That foregrip is a valuable aid in fighting larger fish, IMO it allows much better leverage. I use inshore spinning rods for bass fishing, with my hand on the foregrip I have so much more leverage setting the hook with a frog or any other lure. I have virtually no fatigue or soreness in my wrist due to the foregrip. Spinning allows me not to have to change hands and my rod is always in my strength arm, I'm able to set the hook quicker and harder. I have read dozens of opinions about b/c, I've yet to read one compelling enough to buy one. With no doubt in my mind for the act of casting a receiving of sub 50# fish spinning is not only funner, it's the superior tool. I give the nod to spinning over fly for only 1 reason, that's pulling a fish out heavy cover, spinning does it easily.
On 5/21/2014 at 3:16 AM, Tywithay said:I just like to catch fish. Never noticed the rod.
This...
I will add though, I definitely like fishing a BC better than a spinning rod.
I like both, but have a strong preference for one over the other for specific applications.
Power: Baitcasting
Finesse: Spinning
Also, I prefer baitcasters for all "moving" baits.
Like has been said, it is all in the format. Try a med fast rod with a Lew's Team Pro super tuned at sub 6oz reel weight, rigged with 20# 832 and a 12 or 15# leader throwing carolina rigged floating jigs and dragging 5 to 10 lbs Walleye out of a the largest tributary to all the Great Lakes in spring thaw flooded conditions, in boulder ridden whitewater, in April if you think fighting fish on a baitcaster isn't fun. It isn't, it's a ball, you will learn to use your rod, and not very rewarding if you try horsing them in!!! Now that is fun!
Then on the other hand if you think spinning riggs are to light to set a hook, try using a Heavy action 6 1/2' rod with a Stradic 4000 on it and 50 lbs. 832 in rock and wood riddles rivers fighting 30 lbs Chinook Salmon in fast running river, this aint wimpy but sure aint any heavier rigg than my MH Avid with my Lew's Super Duty on it and 50# line. Talk about fun
Like other extremes, most use heavy for what they do, but I try and set up light for any situation, give the fish a fighting chance, and have to make no mistakes or he wins the round. I personally have a ball using both, and can make scenarios where either one is boring or either one is a ball!!!! It's all in what where and how you use them. One thing is for sure, anytime you use the lightest possible equipment, both types of equipment are "FUNNER"!
On 5/21/2014 at 8:45 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:I think you mean "more gooder" you're welcome
It depends, more gooder is above gooder so it´s a matter of quantity.
i fish with a baitcaster 90% of the time but i do agree with the OP's premise that spinning gear is funner sometimes. for me, the pleasure of using spinning gear is that it balances so naturally...on a baitcaster, the reel always wants to torque downward due to gravity so you're constantly fighting that, albeit unconsciously. secondly—and probably the bigger fun factor—is the how the drag on a spinning reel "sings"...you know what i mean: the drag makes that glorious "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!" screaming sound whenever a big 'un makes a run. funner!
I cant hear the drag buzz on my BC reels but when my stradic starts zinging I get excited. All my days of salt fishing for Blues and Stripers with 6000 series reels brought me to admire the sound of drag peeling. With that said I can relate. lol
On 5/21/2014 at 9:39 PM, Jdm219 said:If I use mono it's 8# on a medium.
Yup. Me too. 6# on any rod power below Medium. Will have to give 4# a shot on one of my reels.
I play the fish more and enjoy the fight with either setup.
Having a 4 to 5+ bass or a 29" to 32" picketed with spinning gear isn't an easy catch. The fight is up to the fish not us.
I had a 6lb large mouth gal give me more fight than any bass I ever caught. I wasn't in control she was. She gave my lure a tour of the open water at will. She was feisty and full of energy. It's the only time I ever heard my drag sing so much.
Maybe the fish here are just too lazy to fight. Haha. Only fish that really fight are salmon and an occasional bass. But the rest just kinda accept it and won't run. Even with loose drag.On 5/22/2014 at 12:12 AM, bigbill said:I play the fish more and enjoy the fight with either setup.
Having a 4 to 5+ bass or a 29" to 32" picketed with spinning gear isn't an easy catch. The fight is up to the fish not us.
I had a 6lb large mouth gal give me more fight than any bass I ever caught. I wasn't in control she was. She gave my lure a tour of the open water at will. She was feisty and full of energy. It's the only time I ever heard my drag sing so much.
On 5/22/2014 at 2:53 AM, Jdm219 said:Maybe the fish here are just too lazy to fight. Haha. Only fish that really fight are salmon and an occasional bass. But the rest just kinda accept it and won't run. Even with loose drag.
You need to hook a big KS wiper. I've had strikes that took me to my knees and multiple 30-40 yard runs even with heavy baitcasting gear. I caught a 20.04lb and it took me over 20 minutes to get it in the boat using a medium crankbait rod with 12lb line. Bass just don't have that much fight in them, comparatively.
I love setting the hook on a spinning reel and hear the drag peal out a little. Just something about that, you dont have to yell to your buddy to get the net, just hear the drag and just know.
On 5/22/2014 at 3:04 AM, WdyCrankbait said:I love setting the hook on a spinning reel and hear the drag peal out a little. Just something about that, you dont have to yell to your buddy to get the net, just hear the drag and just know.
I'll admit, the singing drag is a nice thing with spinning reels. But if I had to make the choice, life-or-death, between the two as to which I'd rather fight a fish on...as of right now (reserve right to change my mind later, LOL) it would be my Chronarch 50e.
It is still pretty cool when a bass rips drag off my casting reel. Not as cool sounding, but still cool. And it's easier to adjust casting drag (for me) while fighting a fish, should it be necessary.
If you like hearing the drag sing, but prefer casting, you just need a reel with a clicking drag. They're fun to play with too.
it isn't
Baitcaster = power
Spinning = versatility
On 5/21/2014 at 10:16 PM, lmbfisherman said:I will add though, I definitely like fishing a BC better than a spinning rod.
X2. I have purchased 6 new-2-me spinning reels since I got back into fishing in '09. Although I have mounted them on rods and made a few casts only 2 have actually been used to fish. I much prefer my baitcast reels and have 4 set up for lighter lures (from 1/4 down). My b/c gear is what keeps me fishing.
When I am throwing 3/4oz + punch rigs in milfoil and nastyness, I want my broom stick and not my ds rod. when I am in open water I will take my ML rod and have fun with light line.
I like catching fish...period. Casting is better to me because I have better gear which in turn makes it more fun to me.
I just read through this thread and me being an auto tech thought more of the mechanical side of why spinning gear may be more "funner"
Like others have suggested, spinning gear is usually lighter powered equipment, which does make it "funner"
But I see it this way, with a baitcaster, you have lets say average 8 lbs of drag. With a spinning reel I find the average is generally a little higher, tic for tac. So, with rods being equal, the spinning reel would be the better winch, but it doesnt feel like it. Because with a baitcaster, the direction you turn the handle is the same direction the spool spins, albeit a different ratio, but they are both going the same way, slightly offset, but the axis are the same direction. This provides less resistance and gives you the feeling of more tourque. But on a spinning reel, the axis of the way the handle spins and the axis of the way the spool spins are at a right angle, thus creating more resistance and a feeling of lack of tourque, making it feel like a harder fight of the fish.
Just my sorta scientific mechanically inclined opinion. Sorry if I lost some of you haha.
On 5/23/2014 at 10:49 AM, BASSclary said:I just read through this thread and me being an auto tech thought more of the mechanical side of why spinning gear may be more "funner"
Like others have suggested, spinning gear is usually lighter powered equipment, which does make it "funner"
But I see it this way, with a baitcaster, you have lets say average 8 lbs of drag. With a spinning reel I find the average is generally a little higher, tic for tac. So, with rods being equal, the spinning reel would be the better winch, but it doesnt feel like it. Because with a baitcaster, the direction you turn the handle is the same direction the spool spins, albeit a different ratio, but they are both going the same way, slightly offset, but the axis are the same direction. This provides less resistance and gives you the feeling of more tourque. But on a spinning reel, the axis of the way the handle spins and the axis of the way the spool spins are at a right angle, thus creating more resistance and a feeling of lack of tourque, making it feel like a harder fight of the fish.
Just my sorta scientific mechanically inclined opinion. Sorry if I lost some of you haha.
Did I interpret this correctly? The drag on your spinning real averages heavier than 8#, what size reel and line would you be using? I don't think a spinning reel winches, the line is wrapped around the spool. I'm not much of technical kind of guy, I just reel the fish in.
On 5/23/2014 at 2:31 PM, SirSnookalot said:Did I interpret this correctly? The drag on your spinning real averages heavier than 8#, what size reel and line would you be using? I don't think a spinning reel winches, the line is wrapped around the spool. I'm not much of technical kind of guy, I just reel the fish in.
Most 2500 size spinning reels have between 10-15lb drags. The spool diameter allows for larger washers than a typical casting reel. I've found that most spinners are every bit as powerful as a baitcaster, but the design doesn't handle heavy line as well.
Winches maybe isn't the right term. But they have no power problem popping for GT's or spazz jigging down there in Miami for your monster fish. More drag for sure except maybe the newer low profile casters with the humongo HEG gear boxes. But do their drags stay 22#'s? Not from what I've experienced, the Revo's especially lose their big drag ability quick, as noted by many on alantani or tackletour. Most of todays notion of a baitcaster being a powerhouse is manifested by fishermen loading them with what used to be big game sized line, putting them on broomsticks, making a cast all of 20 yards and dragging a tiny fish over a mat of grass.
Spinning as far as Bass fishing is for light line, light bait presentations... And is Funner! I always
Used spinning in salt, brackish , intercostal , even
Pits, In the Osceola.. I enjoy spinning more... They are just as capable as baitcasters for almost all species of fishes.... I enjoy baitcasters.... Shimano makes the most reliable to me... Tournaments demand hundreds of clutch engagements, re-engagements... Thereby just have become very reliable for 500 to 700 throws a day...( not so fun) I enjoy both but I wanna catch fish... I tend to enjoy spinning much more than baitcasting... I feel like I overpower smaller fish with B/C ... The mechanical advantage of baitcasting reels cannot be denied... Funner joy of fighting fish on spinning cannot be denied!
On 5/23/2014 at 4:08 PM, Tywithay said:Most 2500 size spinning reels have between 10-15lb drags. The spool diameter allows for larger washers than a typical casting reel. I've found that most spinners are every bit as powerful as a baitcaster, but the design doesn't handle heavy line as well.
This is true but I've never considered heavy line. Growing up in Michigan I was weened on all freshwater species using spinning, long before I was a braid user. Line strength hasn't been much of an issue for me as I do understand how to use the drag, learning be a saltwater fisherman taught me to trust my reels. The salt has improved my freshwater fishing 10 fold. At least from the standpoint of landing fish, I never get intimidated by the size of a fish. Panic or over excitement is what loses fish, not the equipment.