I havent used a spinning setup since a began bass fishing a few years ago, I have a St Coix 7'1 MF LTB casting that I use for lighter weight baits works great.
I went out today and messed around with my only spinning setup ive ever had, just a cheap 6'6 Abu Card w/ Pflueger Trion.
Made me kind of want to get a more "high end" setup for ultra finesse, everything weightless basically.
My question is how many of you regularly use/ have these on your boat or in your bank fishing arsenal even?
I love my casting setups for sure but Im thinking maybe for weightless trick and ribbon tail weightless small grub type baits a spinning combo would be a good investment lol
Just weighing my pros and cons here ya know dont want to get it and realize I still use my casting way more haha
So lets talk!
There are BC rods and reels that are capable to throwing all but the lightest of baits if you are willing to spend the money. Spinning setups are much less expensive and get the job done well. I think you would be missing out if you do not have a good quality spinning setup in your arsenal.
I have one set up all the time for lite stuff, I don't use it much but I won't leave without it
Spinning reel set-up is good to have.
Spinning setup yes/ no ?
I´ll reply with another question: why not ?
I´m fortunate to have more money than brains, I can treat myself with the luxury of having not only one but a couple of high end baitcasting setups just for light/small lures; but as I mentioned before, I do own a boat but most of the times I fish from the bank and, where I´m at, you can consider yourself extremely lucky if you can find a snag free área to swing a bc setup comfortably, 99% of the time you can´t, so that´s when I pull out my spinning rigs, with spinning gear you don´t need a lot of room to cast comfortably.
My favorite spinning setup is:
GraphiteLeader Veloce 6´ ML rod
Team Daiwa Revros 2004 reel.
Yo-Zuri Hybrid 6 lb test
I've been using a st croix ml fast a lot this year. Use it mostly for drop shots and weightless trick worms.
Cabela's has the Fenwick Elite Tech Smallmouth rods on sale. I had them put aside a 6'9" MXF spinning rod for when I get home from vacation. The friend who got me into first trying this series (in the casting models) absolutely loves this rod. A Pflueger President is always a good choice in its price range.
seriously.. i just learned i could weight my line with inline sinkers and bring up the casting weight of lighter lures to something that is actually castable with my baitcaster.. im never going back to a spinning reel again and if i need to cast anything really light without a weighted line i think id rather just get a decent quality spincast for that minor role
On 6/15/2014 at 4:31 AM, jason41987 said:seriously.. i just learned i could weight my line with inline sinkers and bring up the casting weight of lighter lures to something that is actually castable with my baitcaster.. im never going back to a spinning reel again and if i need to cast anything really light without a weighted line i think id rather just get a decent quality spincast for that minor role
how long of a leader do you use after the "Inline sinker"
For lightweight finesse setups, a spinning rod cannot be beat. You must be stubborn if you think a baitcaster covers all tactics no matter what the circumstances. There will always be a time when a spinning setup will shine. I enjoy fishing spinning setups for finesse, and especially fighting the fish at times rather than quickly winching them in. You can run much lighter line on the spinning setup, and never have to worry about backlashes to ruin your day. You will dump as much money or more into a high quality spinning setup vs a casting setup if you want to. I have over $600 in my spinning setup, and don't regret it for a second. It is more sensitive than my casting setups, although I use it for finesse, and casting setups for heavy duty.
On 6/15/2014 at 4:54 AM, jonnyblazex said:For lightweight finesse setups, a spinning rod cannot be beat. You must be stubborn if you think a baitcaster covers all tactics no matter what the circumstances. There will always be a time when a spinning setup will shine. I enjoy fishing spinning setups for finesse, and especially fighting the fish at times rather than quickly winching them in. You can run much lighter line on the spinning setup, and never have to worry about backlashes to ruin your day. You will dump as much money or more into a high quality spinning setup vs a casting setup if you want to. I have over $600 in my spinning setup, and don't regret it for a second. It is more sensitive than my casting setups, although I use it for finesse, and casting setups for heavy duty.
What's your setup? Sounds like a nice one.
On 6/15/2014 at 4:48 AM, Mikell said:how long of a leader do you use after the "Inline sinker"
no idea, still playing around with the concept.. just started toying with it
as for finesse, i love my baitcaster.. lures are thrown out more accurately, i can stop the spool and immediately stop the lure in the air allowing it to fall exactly where i want it to (i was pinpointed small open patches right between the weeds and lily pads).. so i say that was more "finesse" than anything i was ever able to do on a spinning reel
late last season i tried going back to spinning and hated it.. i hate the way they cast, i hate having to flip the bail open, hated the balance, and didnt miss getting my knuckles hit
now, as you want to cast the weightless stuff, you could probably weight your line like im trying out.. but if not its not like you really need all that much distance im guessing, and i doubt youre catching any monsters on nearly weightless lures so i would personally just get a good spincast reel.. i know most people just think of them as cheap starter reels but if im not mistaken wasnt the spincast actually invented to give users of baitcasting reels the option of casting lighter, weightless lures on their current collection of casting rods?
its possible but you are right i think they are just cheap begginner stuff man lol i feel the same about those as you do about spinning, im never going back lol
On 6/15/2014 at 1:46 AM, aavery2 said:Spinning setups are much less expensive...
Well, that is not necessarily the case at all. My spinnming tackle is a bit more
expensive than any of my baitcasting rigs. I like both types of gear, but have a
strong preference for one over the other depending on the technique I am fishing.
Power fishing = baitcasting
Finesse = spinning gear
I always have spinning gear. Of my 5 rods that I use 2 are spinning. Also my wife's rod is a spinning rod
On 6/15/2014 at 5:41 AM, roadwarrior said:Well, that is not necessarily the case at all. My spinnming tackle is a bit more
expensive than any of my baitcasting rigs. I like both types of gear, but have a
strong preference for one over the other depending on the technique I am fishing.
Power fishing = baitcasting
Finesse = spinning gear
My comparison was meant to be to finesse bait casters that were equally capable of throwing baits at around 1/8 of an ounce. I am aware of the high end market in spinning reels and they are nice indeed, but the fact is a 100 dollar or under reel will give you good service and is very capable of casting baits in the weight range. There is nothing in 100 dollar bait casting reel that is even close to capable of throwing 1/8 ounce baits well and BC reels designed to do so cost close to 4X as much. So my post was made in this respect.
Oh I wouldn't want to not have a multiples of spinning setups.... These days I am liking them real well. Very good tools to have.
I just dont get why everyone hates spinning gear. Dont get me wrong i have 4 baitcast setups and love them for anything over 1/4 ounce but any lure under that weight is more easily casted using spinning gear. I also use spinning gear with anything im skipping under docks and trees and i fish a lot of small ponds with overhanging trees and spinning gear is the only way to get any distance on a cast. I know i could buy a high end finesse baitcast setup and get the job done without spinning gear but im on a budget and spinning gear is much more cost effective. i ise a powell deisel spinning rod and a Mitchell avocet gold spinning reel. I paid 54 for the rod on sale and got the reel at a pawn shop for 10 bucks and ive probably caught more fish on this setup since i got it than all my other setups combined. Spinning gear is much more cost effective with smaller baits IMHO
On 6/15/2014 at 5:20 AM, jason41987 said:
now, as you want to cast the weightless stuff, you could probably weight your line like im trying out.. but if not its not like you really need all that much distance im guessing, and i doubt youre catching any monsters on nearly weightless lures so i would personally just get a good spincast reel..
Huh?
First off, adding weight means you're no longer throwing weightless lures. Weighted plastics catch fish, but they're no longer weightless.
Secondly, why exactly do you think big fish are not caught on weightless plastics?
On 6/15/2014 at 8:28 AM, Chris at Tech said:Huh?
First off, adding weight means you're no longer throwing weightless lures. Weighted plastics catch fish, but they're no longer weightless.
Secondly, why exactly do you think big fish are not caught on weightless plastics?
My thoughts exactly. Why else would finesse tactics be so popular today; and seem to be gaining popularity more each day.
Technically if you have a long enough leader with an inline sinker youre plastic can still be weightless and fall with the action as the sinker would sink fast and the plastic,being actually weightless would fall much slower
On 6/15/2014 at 9:48 AM, Mikell said:Technically if you have a long enough leader with an inline sinker youre plastic can still be weightless and fall with the action as the sinker would sink fast and the plastic,being actually weightless would fall much slower
Dude - that's a Carolina rig
On 6/15/2014 at 9:48 AM, Mikell said:Technically if you have a long enough leader with an inline sinker youre plastic can still be weightless and fall with the action as the sinker would sink fast and the plastic,being actually weightless would fall much slower
Seems like unless you are using a very long leader and fishing shallow water, those weights are going to drag your bait down very quickly until they reach the bottom
On 6/15/2014 at 9:55 AM, Chris at Tech said:Dude - that's a Carolina rig
thanks for that cus i had no idea
On 6/15/2014 at 10:13 AM, aavery2 said:Seems like unless you are using a very long leader and fishing shallow water, those weights are going to drag your bait down very quickly until they reach the bottom
well thatd be why i said "technically" meaning I can make it happen but it may not be "practical" for true weightless technique
To respond to a question from aavery, my setup consists of a G Loomis NRX SYR 822 (spinning rod) paired with a Shimano Stradic CI4+, and 8lb Seaguar Tatsu. Unbelieveable setup, so sensitive I cant even describe it. I have used it for everything from fishing for Crappies, jigging for Walleyes, and Finessing for some Bass, all with wonderful success. For bass, my favorite bait on this rod is a 1/8 oz Owner shaky head jig, tipped with a 6'' Roboworm, or 1/8 oz drop shot with ds hook, and 4inch tube or roboworm, various colors. I can fish this at the bottom at 30 feet, and feel the lightest tiniest bite, slam the hook home, and still have enough back bone to turn a nice fish away, even from moderate cover. I guess you really get what you pay for. Im not saying you wont be successful with a much cheaper setup, but this one is da bomb.
You will never convince a b/c user that spinning isn't as good if not better, conversely you won't convince me that a b/c is better. I use nothing but spinning. These words finesse and power are not in my fishing vocabulary, I put a lure on and work it the way I want to. With a spinning set up the rod dictates the lure weight, with most b/c enough weight is needed to cast, line just comes off a fixed spool on the spinner, it can't be easier. Spinning gives me versatility, I can both underload or overload my rod and be effective. Just an example of 1 set up which is one of my most used, a med spinning rod I can and do throw 1/8 bucktails, the objective is only to cast 20 feet or so because that's where I'm looking for the fish. When I need distance I can and do overload to an ounce or more and get plenty of distance. In the middle I can and do throw weightless flukes. This set up enables me to catch 1 # fish or 30# fish, I've done both. In the event where I'm dealing with some heavier vegetation I may jump up to a mh spinning rod but my lures are not changing.
I do not have to change hands after my cast, my hand is always on the foregrip giving me both more hooksetting leverage as well as more leverage handling the fish. I can cast with 2 hands or 1, underhand, side arm, pitch under docks, that pretty much covers it for me. Last but not least I'm always working the lure with my power arm, spinning is a total win for me, wouldn't even consider using a b/c.
On 6/15/2014 at 3:42 PM, SirSnookalot said:You will never convince a b/c user that spinning isn't as good if not better, conversely you won't convince me that a b/c is better. I use nothing but spinning.
Actually, 99% of us don't need to be convinced of anything. It's you and the other 1% that keep trying to convince. Most of us know that both spinning and baitcasting have their place in a well rounded bass fishing arsenal. Some of us prefer one or the other but still use both.
Not trying to convince anyone, just saying why I much prefer spinning. I am glad of this, I don't deal with backlashes, line digging in, or setting brakes.
On 6/15/2014 at 7:50 AM, timsford said:I just dont get why everyone hates spinning gear. Dont get me wrong i have 4 baitcast setups and love them for anything over 1/4 ounce but any lure under that weight is more easily casted using spinning gear. I also use spinning gear with anything im skipping under docks and trees and i fish a lot of small ponds with overhanging trees and spinning gear is the only way to get any distance on a cast. I know i could buy a high end finesse baitcast setup and get the job done without spinning gear but im on a budget and spinning gear is much more cost effective. i ise a powell deisel spinning rod and a Mitchell avocet gold spinning reel. I paid 54 for the rod on sale and got the reel at a pawn shop for 10 bucks and ive probably caught more fish on this setup since i got it than all my other setups combined. Spinning gear is much more cost effective with smaller baits IMHO
but does this mean you have to go to spinning gear?.. light lures typically catch light fish and a spincast is well capable of casting the small stuff and bringing in panfish, even seen people bring in large cats with spincasting reels.. plus they have roughly the same balance as a baitcast and you can use your thumb to drop the spool same as on a baitcaster to drop the lure right where you want it... plus you dont need any new rods.. so baitcaster for 90% of my fishing and a spincast for the other 10%
Spincast reels work too but the main dislike i have with them is you get line twist just like with spinning gear but you cant see the small loops on the spool and straighten them out before they become a mess. Thats my experience anyway. Also they dont cast as far with the same line and lure weights as a spinning reel because the line is rubbing the exit point on the top as you are casting. I dont see anything wrong with spincast gear if thats what someone prefers using, its just not for me
I came from only using spinning gear. Had 6 combos and was a diehard spinning guy. Then I started using baitcasters and slowly went that direction. Now I always have my one spinning combo on me, as well as my 4 other BC combos. I'm getting more & more into finesse fishing with casting gear but I'll always have at least one highend spinning combo. I'm still more accurate with my trusty old spinning rod...
On 6/16/2014 at 12:08 AM, jason41987 said:light lures typically catch light fish...
Again, huh? My 8-15 PB came on a 1/8 oz shaky head and Zoom finesse worm that I was throwing on a ML spinning rod with 8lb test.
Absolutely no one is saying you MUST use spinning gear but let's please not pretend that big fish are not caught on small tackle. Use whatever you want, but I have multiple spinning rigs as part of my arsenal, and when I need to throw something less than a 1/4 oz, they get the call first.
On 6/16/2014 at 6:53 AM, Chris at Tech said:Again, huh? My 8-15 PB came on a 1/8 oz shaky head and Zoom finesse worm that I was throwing on a ML spinning rod with 8lb test.
Absolutely no one is saying you MUST use spinning gear but let's please not pretend that big fish are not caught on small tackle. Use whatever you want, but I have multiple spinning rigs as part of my arsenal, and when I need to throw something less than a 1/4 oz, they get the call first.
Well said! The idea that spinning is inferior is silly. The idea that spincast is preferable is sillier yet! There are folks who can pitch using spinning with more accuracy than most using baitcast. Most of us who use spinning much can do so accurately. I prefer baitcast for most techniques, but would not be without a couple of spinning outfits.
Man, they are stubborn don't cha think ? It's amazing the kind of nonsense we happen to see lately.On 6/16/2014 at 6:53 AM, Chris at Tech said:Again, huh? My 8-15 PB came on a 1/8 oz shaky head and Zoom finesse worm that I was throwing on a ML spinning rod with 8lb test.
Absolutely no one is saying you MUST use spinning gear but let's please not pretend that big fish are not caught on small tackle. Use whatever you want, but I have multiple spinning rigs as part of my arsenal, and when I need to throw something less than a 1/4 oz, they get the call first.
On 6/15/2014 at 6:33 AM, aavery2 said:There is nothing in 100 dollar bait casting reel that is even close to capable of throwing 1/8 ounce baits well and BC reels designed to do so cost close to 4X as much.
I beg to differ. Maybe not in new reels, but I currently am casting a 3/16 oz. Shad Rap on a Light and 2 ML rods about as far as I can throw a 3/8 oz. spinnerbait on a MH rod. Two of the reels I am using cost me $65 apiece. I tried an 1/8 oz. once. Distance and accuracy sucked, but feel quite certain it is doable with more practice. This is not to suggest that a b/c reel is as good as a spinning reel at these weights. I don't need any practice to cast those weights...and lighter...with the correct spinning rod. I just prefer b/c reels even though they aren't as efficient as a spinning reel in some circumstances...for me anyway.
Anyone who says light lines and light rods can't l-a-n-d b-i-g fish doesn't know what they are talking about. There are people all over the world proving them wrong every day.
I have to disagree with SirSnooalot just a little. Just because you are using a spinning rod doesn't mean you can cast any light lure on it. I recently picked up a rod brand he has suggested to me before. Low end rating is 3/8 oz., but I felt from handling the rod in-store that it would handle lighter. I don't think the worm and 3/0 hook I was using on it make the 3/8 oz. weight, but the rod handled them just fine. However, I had previously tried casting a 1/16 oz. lure on a ML spinning rod rated for 1/8 on the low end, and couldn't get any distance at all. The rod would not load. If the rod won't load, it won't cast for squat regardless of the reel being used.
I am afraid many of the posts...including mine....have wandered off the subject as posted by the OP. It happens all the time, but especially when finesse fishing equipment is the topic. Just the nature of the beast.
Out of my 6 rods I usually take, 2 of them are spinning.
Man this has become quite the debate! I like all the response some great info in all of this
On 6/16/2014 at 9:44 AM, new2BC4bass said:I beg to differ. Maybe not in new reels, but I currently am casting a 3/16 oz. Shad Rap on a Light and 2 ML rods about as far as I can throw a 3/8 oz. spinnerbait on a MH rod. Two of the reels I am using cost me $65 apiece. I tried an 1/8 oz. once. Distance and accuracy sucked, but feel quite certain it is doable with more practice. This is not to suggest that a b/c reel is as good as a spinning reel at these weights. I don't need any practice to cast those weights...and lighter...with the correct spinning rod. I just prefer b/c reels even though they aren't as efficient as a spinning reel in some circumstances...for me anyway.
Anyone who says light lines and light rods can't l-a-n-d b-i-g fish doesn't know what they are talking about. There are people all over the world proving them wrong every day.
I have to disagree with SirSnooalot just a little. Just because you are using a spinning rod doesn't mean you can cast any light lure on it. I recently picked up a rod brand he has suggested to me before. Low end rating is 3/8 oz., but I felt from handling the rod in-store that it would handle lighter. I don't think the worm and 3/0 hook I was using on it make the 3/8 oz. weight, but the rod handled them just fine. However, I had previously tried casting a 1/16 oz. lure on a ML spinning rod rated for 1/8 on the low end, and couldn't get any distance at all. The rod would not load. If the rod won't load, it won't cast for squat regardless of the reel being used.
I am afraid many of the posts...including mine....have wandered off the subject as posted by the OP. It happens all the time, but especially when finesse fishing equipment is the topic. Just the nature of the beast.
Ok, so now I'm interested, what magical $65 dollar reel do you have that cast baits this light in weight. Let me venture a guess and say the BPS Prolite.
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I have to disagree with SirSnooalot just a little. Just because you are using a spinning rod doesn't mean you can cast any light lure on it. I recently picked up a rod brand he has suggested to me before. Low end rating is 3/8 oz., but I felt from handling the rod in-store that it would handle lighter. I don't think the worm and 3/0 hook I was using on it make the 3/8 oz. weight, but the rod handled them just fine. However, I had previously tried casting a 1/16 oz. lure on a ML spinning rod rated for 1/8 on the low end, and couldn't get any distance at all. The rod would not load. If the rod won't load, it won't cast for squat regardless of the reel being used.
What I said was I can and do throw lures where my rod is underloaded, but not for distance. On that rod with the low end being 3/8 I've used 1/8 and 1/4 many times but I only cast along a sea wall or 20' or so into the swash. On the opposite end I toss 1 ounce or 1.25, that rod is rated a max of 3/4, this is a med spinning rod. The fish in my avatar was caught on it, at the time I was using a 1 ounce metal swim jig. I've had this rod and 4 others in various lengths and powers for 8-10 years, they are as perfect as the day I bought them and they all cast beautifully.
In a previous post on this thread it was stated light lures are for light fish, oh really? My most used bucktail jigs are 1/4 and 1/2 oz, not only do I catch snook and tarpon on them but I have caught many very sizable bass on the same exact ones I use in saltwater. It isn't always the weight of the lure, it's the profile. I'm making my own 1/8 oz jigs for peacock bass, some are about 4" in length others are much shorter.
You do need spinning gear, especially for throwing baits 3/16 of an ounce or lighter. Casting gear does great with anything 1/4 ounce or above. I use spinning gear for senkos, soft jerkbaits, and most smaller plastics like grubs, small worms, or finesse worms. It's also the only way to go when throwing small, light cranks like a #5 shad rap, which is a great springtime bait and a good clearwater finesse bait year round. So I have four spinning setups that regularly see action, and 8 casting setups that I generally carry.
this hate for spinning outfits is just odd to me. just because one prefers bait casting gear doesnt mean you have to hate spinning. both have their places. but i think spinning is much more versatile when it comes down to it. but oh well, if someone wants to limit themselves then so be it...
i dont hate spinning setups, i just got accustomed to BC and have done well on them
was just curious if it would be worth the investment seeing how I have alot of BC combos (imo cus i only have 6) lol
Yes, you can be just as accurate with spinning gear as you are with baitcasting gear. Take a look at this video:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/spinning-accuracy.html
I always have at least 2, and sometimes as many as 4-5 spinning rods on the boat.
i'm not saying i use it or even take it every trip, but somethings are just too hard to do on a BC setup for me so my spinning rod gets the call from time to time. a weightless senko skipped up under some overhang in a river or skipped under a dock is just DEADLY for me, but trying to do that on a baitcaster just isn't happening for this guy.... i've tried practicing, tried skipping under the garage door, all that but FOR ME a spinning rod is hands down the only way to skip light and weightless baits into some nasty spots where the big ones are chillin. I have a cheapo berkley lightning rod and lew's speed spin (like about a $65 setup altogether) and it does the job. as much as i use it i just can't justify spending $100 on a spinning reel or $150 or so on a decent rod. now the BC setups that I use every trip, yeah i'll spend a little money on them.....
When I go out, my 6 rods are... 4 spinning, 2 casting. I do that for a number of reasons, I actually fish worms on a spinning rod, they are easier to skip under things, baits fall straight down and can handle lighter or weightless plastics better. I throw very few cranks aside from a few parts of the season then its 3 and 3. Otherwise, casting rods get jig and spinnerbait duty. Everything else is spinning. Both my personal best largemouth (8lbs 3oz) and smallmouth (7lbs 5oz) were taken on spinning gear. You are doing yourself a real disservice by not using one.
On 6/16/2014 at 12:08 AM, jason41987 said:but does this mean you have to go to spinning gear?.. light lures typically catch light fish and a spincast is well capable of casting the small stuff and bringing in panfish, even seen people bring in large cats with spincasting reels.. plus they have roughly the same balance as a baitcast and you can use your thumb to drop the spool same as on a baitcaster to drop the lure right where you want it... plus you dont need any new rods.. so baitcaster for 90% of my fishing and a spincast for the other 10
Wrong. Oh so wrong.
Mikell....I have 8 spinning setups. Some high end $600+. Some low ballin', ~$60. Each has been setup for certain baits and techniques: Dropshot, Dropshot #2, T-Rigs/tube, T-rigs/tube #2, shakeyhead, soft jerk, topwater, medium jig. 3 BC setups: cranks, jerkbaits, and heavy jigs.
Cant say which style is better for you. I can tell you both spinning and casting setups have their place on my boat though. The thing is, one guy might like working a tube on casting gear and that is great, I cant even be bothered to try because I have 2 spinning rods which are just as sensitive and capable of doing that job. Its all about preference really. Will say I prefer BC gear for cranking, it just feels right in comparison to a spinning setup.
Get yourself a medium action spinning setup with a 2500 sized reel. This will cover most situations you'll come across, it will toss weightless baits, light t-rigs, dropshot, tubes, topwater, soft jerks, hard jerks, grubs, darterheads, and some lighter jigs. When you need heavier gear, pick up your baitcaster.
On 6/17/2014 at 8:59 PM, mod479 said:Get yourself a medium action spinning setup with a 2500 sized reel. This will cover most situations you'll come across, it will toss weightless baits, light t-rigs, dropshot, tubes, topwater, soft jerks, hard jerks, grubs, darterheads, and some lighter jigs. When you need heavier gear, pick up your baitcaster.
Medium Power/ Fast Action
I know a couple of folks have touched on this but in my humble opinion I will use a BC when ever I can and spinning gear when BC doesn't work for me. I have 2 instances when I go to spinning gear. Skipping docks and drop shotting. I have considered switching to a BC for drop shotting but I just haven't invested the money in the right setup. Recently I switched from using a spin setup to a bc setup when throwing smaller trebled top water lures. I found this older Quantum rod that's pretty parabolic and I matched it with a Daiwa Lexa 100. It still suffers a bit in terms of accuracy but it casts forever.
Bottom line for me, if BC setups work, I use them. If not, I go to spinning setups.
Side note: I love using braid (with or without a fluoro leader) on spinning gear. No line memory makes me a happy angler.
On 6/16/2014 at 12:38 PM, aavery2 said:Ok, so now I'm interested, what magical $65 dollar reel do you have that cast baits this light in weight. Let me venture a guess and say the BPS Prolite.
Close. The older gold Carbonlites. Got confused and spooled it with 6# mono, mounted it on my Faclcon Expert Light and proceeded to whip that 3/16 oz. lure out there. Later I realized I had been thinking of the Prolite when I spooled it.
On 6/16/2014 at 2:23 PM, SirSnookalot said:What I said was I can and do throw lures where my rod is underloaded, but not for distance. On that rod with the low end being 3/8 I've used 1/8 and 1/4 many times but I only cast along a sea wall or 20' or so into the swash. On the opposite end I toss 1 ounce or 1.25, that rod is rated a max of 3/4, this is a med spinning rod. The fish in my avatar was caught on it, at the time I was using a 1 ounce metal swim jig. I've had this rod and 4 others in various lengths and powers for 8-10 years, they are as perfect as the day I bought them and they all cast beautifully.
In a previous post on this thread it was stated light lures are for light fish, oh really? My most used bucktail jigs are 1/4 and 1/2 oz, not only do I catch snook and tarpon on them but I have caught many very sizable bass on the same exact ones I use in saltwater. It isn't always the weight of the lure, it's the profile. I'm making my own 1/8 oz jigs for peacock bass, some are about 4" in length others are much shorter.
Sorry for the confusion when I mentioned light lures catching big fish. I was not referring to any post of yours that said otherwise. I am aware you are one of many who often catch big fish on small lures.
The rod I tried casting the 1/16 oz. lure on that was rated for 1/8 oz. on the low end was a Villain ML spinning rod. I'm not sure I was even getting 20 feet with 8# mono on an older Daiwa reel. I also have a 7'6" MHF Villain casting rod rated for 3/8 oz. on the low end. I can get more than 20 feet with that weight, but not what I consider normal fishing distances.
I picked up a Hurricane Redbone 7' ML casting rod while visiting Florida recently. It is the rod I was using to cast weightless 10" worms on a 3/0 hook. I was getting as good of a distance as my brother-in-law who was using a spinning reel and 4/0 hook. The rod is rated 3/8 oz. on the low end, but loaded nicely even though I doubt my bait weighed 3/8 oz. Thanks for the recommendation. It is a nice looking rod.
On 6/15/2014 at 1:40 AM, Mikell said:I havent used a spinning setup since a began bass fishing a few years ago, I have a St Coix 7'1 MF LTB casting that I use for lighter weight baits works great.
I went out today and messed around with my only spinning setup ive ever had, just a cheap 6'6 Abu Card w/ Pflueger Trion.
Made me kind of want to get a more "high end" setup for ultra finesse, everything weightless basically.
My question is how many of you regularly use/ have these on your boat or in your bank fishing arsenal even?
I love my casting setups for sure but Im thinking maybe for weightless trick and ribbon tail weightless small grub type baits a spinning combo would be a good investment lol
Just weighing my pros and cons here ya know dont want to get it and realize I still use my casting way more haha
So lets talk!
What I bring set-up wise always depends on the body of water I'm fishing. There are times I will have 3 spinning set ups on the deck for a day. There are other times where I won't have one out on the deck. Rarely do I not have one in the rod locker at least JUST IN CASE.
I guess I will throw in my 2 cents on baitcasting and spinning... I think it's a matter of mostly preference, confidence and comfort. Each person will have their own opinion and feeling and by no means is anyone's invalid.
For me personally, I grew up fishing a spinning rod from 2 years old to around 11 or 12 I believe. For some baits, I am just more comfortable and have more confidence working certain baits on a spinning rod. Dartheads, nail weighted or wacky senkos, shakeyheads, dropshot even light jigs. I like the feel of these baits and have more confidence getting bit on a spinning rod with them.
The other thing I will let dictate my choices are line size and cover. My line size is based on cover I'm fishing around so I will change accordingly. I am a big fan of straight fluorocarbon on basically any bait that I let sink at any point. For me, I am not a fan of the braid to fluoro for any sinking bait, and the problem I run into personally is line over 10 lb test on a spinning rod just doesn't manage well for me. This leads me to throw certain baits like heavy dropshot and wacky or weightless senkos on a baitcaster and usually 14-16 lb test.
For me it just comes down to what is comfortable, what I have confidence in and the conditions I am fishing for that moment or day.
Personally on some lakes, I just plain couldn't stand to fish without a spinning rod or 2 or 3 haha. On others, I doubt I would ever miss it much. It all just depends. Do what you are comfortable and have confidence in!
On 6/18/2014 at 12:20 AM, new2BC4bass said:
I picked up a Hurricane Redbone 7' ML casting rod while visiting Florida recently. It is the rod I was using to cast weightless 10" worms on a 3/0 hook. I was getting as good of a distance as my brother-in-law who was using a spinning reel and 4/0 hook. The rod is rated 3/8 oz. on the low end, but loaded nicely even though I doubt my bait weighed 3/8 oz. Thanks for the recommendation. It is a nice looking rod.
Why am I not surprised? Never looked at the casting models before, that ml has the same lure specs as a medium bone. They have never kept their web site up to date, many rods not listed, they now have jigging rods, fly rods and 8' mh spinning which I really like. Redbone is all about cystic fibrosis, a portion is donated for every rod they sell. They sponsor tournaments to raise money for cystic, just read it's 10 million so far. It's one of the reasons I've been a loyal customer, plus it's a wonderful rod.
Original poster...... I think your missing out on a very special fishery up their around Baker County. Your fairly close to rivers that hold Chipola, Suwanee, and Red Eye bass sub species. They are a blast to target and special in that many bass angler's will never accomplish catching them. They are best targeted with light finesse spinning gear as they are almost exclusively crawfish feeders and often live in gin clear water no more than 6 feet deep. Besides recently I read something like 3 thousand people move into our state every day. Our waters are getting highly pressured and spinning will play a bigger part in just getting a bite in our future.