I am looking for the best line I can put on my spinning reel. It will be for my shallow crankbaits and swimbaits. Would prefer it be between 10-15lb line.
10-15 lb line on a spinning reel? :-?
Quote10-15 lb line on a spinning reel? :-?
What Burley is saying in own way is that on the size reels most of us use for bass fishing, line heavier that 8 or 10# is too heavy to manage easily. You can go with a larger reel, e.g. a 4000 size Shimano with no problem, but the trade-off is more weight. Good luck.
20/6 braid
well I haven't used a baitcasting reel but a few times and all of which resulted in BIRD"S NEST after bird's nest I can't get it down so I said forget it... all I use now is spinning reels
Put on 15 lbs on a 2000/2500 size spinning reel and you 'll get some of the worst wind knots you can imagine, as terrible as a backlash.
Hi...I'm new to the Forum thing but hopefully you guys can help me out. I found this site after googling the initial question to this thread after fighting with the line on my spinning reels all day yesterday. I spent more time straightening it out than I did with my lure in the water. Grr. Can someone be specific when it comes to the best line for the spinning reels? I'm trying to learn lbs and reel sizes and such so go easy on me . Hopefully not too many of you will laugh but my boyfriend is being quite patient. This problem has him stumped as well because he prefers the baitcasting reels (which I just learned how to use yesterday woo hoo with only a couple of backlashes). I still need a good line that won't wrap around itself for my spinning reels because I am only comfortable at this point making long casts with the baitcaster. I still need my spinning reels for dock fishing and aiming and such until I get better with the other. Sorry this is so long and thanks in advance.
Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft #6 (.010" diameter, 11.9 lb breaking strength).
8-)
For that purpose and that kind of reel you need a low diameter highly resistant to abrassion line, and yes, there is such a creature, RW recommends Yo Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft, I 'll ad to that recomendation regular Yo-Zuri Hybrid or P-Line CXX 6-8lbs, don 't get caught in "it sounds too light" , the three lines have an incredibidly high breaking point in spite of being "too thin", while being strong they are sill quite manageable, go up in the test and the slinkier it gets.
Are you lining your spinning reel up right? Are you allowing the line to fall off the spool in the same direction as it winds around the spool of your reel, i.e., clockwise or counterclockwise? You cannot spool a spinning reel by reeling line onto the reel while allowing the bulk spool to roll around a pen or pencil or similar. The bulk line spool MUST be lying flat on the floor or held facing the spinning reel which allows the line to peel off the bulk spool in the same direction as it winds onto your reel. Reel line on for 10 or so complete cranks and then move the reel toward the bulk spool allowing slack in the line. If it twists, simply flip the bulk spool over and go 10 cranks more and do the same thing. The side that produces the less amount of twist when you slack the line is the side that you want to complete the fill from.
The suggestions for YoZuri Hybrid Ultra Soft 6lb. get a big "ditto" from me.
if you are using a 2500 size spinning reel , go with 6 or 8 lb. P-line CXX , i actually have 8 lb. CXX on my baitcaster , i use it for crankbaits , spinner baits , texas rigged worms , flukes and a few other things . you will be amazed by the srength of it , just change it out when it starts getting too much memory ( every 3-5 trips ) .
QuoteAre you lining your spinning reel up right? Are you allowing the line to fall off the spool in the same direction as it winds around the spool of your reel, i.e., clockwise or counterclockwise? You cannot spool a spinning reel by reeling line onto the reel while allowing the bulk spool to roll around a pen or pencil or similar. The bulk line spool MUST be lying flat on the floor or held facing the spinning reel which allows the line to peel off the bulk spool in the same direction as it winds onto your reel. Reel line on for 10 or so complete cranks and then move the reel toward the bulk spool allowing slack in the line. If it twists, simply flip the bulk spool over and go 10 cranks more and do the same thing. The side that produces the less amount of twist when you slack the line is the side that you want to complete the fill from.The suggestions for YoZuri Hybrid Ultra Soft 6lb. get a big "ditto" from me.
I used to do this, but it works better if you fill the reel using the pencil/chopstick method, with the line coming off the bottom of the filler spool. Much less twist this way.
For the OP, if you need more than 8# line on your spinner, you will have better luck with braided line, Like Power Pro. 15-20# works great on 1500 to 3000 size reels.
QuoteQuoteAre you lining your spinning reel up right? Are you allowing the line to fall off the spool in the same direction as it winds around the spool of your reel, i.e., clockwise or counterclockwise? You cannot spool a spinning reel by reeling line onto the reel while allowing the bulk spool to roll around a pen or pencil or similar. The bulk line spool MUST be lying flat on the floor or held facing the spinning reel which allows the line to peel off the bulk spool in the same direction as it winds onto your reel. Reel line on for 10 or so complete cranks and then move the reel toward the bulk spool allowing slack in the line. If it twists, simply flip the bulk spool over and go 10 cranks more and do the same thing. The side that produces the less amount of twist when you slack the line is the side that you want to complete the fill from.The suggestions for YoZuri Hybrid Ultra Soft 6lb. get a big "ditto" from me.
I used to do this, but it works better if you fill the reel using the pencil/chopstick method, with the line coming off the bottom of the filler spool. Much less twist this way.
For the OP, if you need more than 8# line on your spinner, you will have better luck with braided line, Like Power Pro. 15-20# works great on 1500 to 3000 size reels.
He used a line winder of sorts I guess is what you call it. All I know is that with the new line, it will constantly loop off every time I cast. I will try the Yo-Zuri Hybrid and see how that works....and we shouldn't use one of those contraptions right? I've never seen him use it before he usually just leaves the spool on the floor then has one of the kids run it out to rewind it if that makes sense. I really don't know what I'm talking about but I'm learning lol. ;D
QuoteI am looking for the best line I can put on my spinning reel. It will be for my shallow crankbaits and swimbaits. Would prefer it be between 10-15lb line.
As a person that uses almost exclusively spinning reels, I suggest and use either 20-30 lb Power Pro braid or 10-15 lb Pline CX or CXX. The braid is a smaller diameter, and the Pline works very well as an all around line.
For spooling, these guys are 100% right, reel it in so the line comes off the spool itself the same direction as it spins it into the reel. Make sure you keep your ffree hand further up the rod so it stays fairly tight as it spins it on the reel.
bah they modified the link to the video I posted... guess they don't want to allow other sites to explain the information better
I used yozuri 6lb last year with good results.
Ultra soft that is.
Spiderwire Ultra-Cast... 8, 10 or 15lb test.
QuoteAll I know is that with the new line, it will constantly loop off every time I cast.
That actually sounds like maybe there's too much line on your spool. There should be a good 1/16-1/8 inch of lip showing after you spool up. This a common problem with spinning gear. Fine line (pardon the pun ) between too much line and not enough on spinning reels.
QuoteAre you lining your spinning reel up right? Are you allowing the line to fall off the spool in the same direction as it winds around the spool of your reel, i.e., clockwise or counterclockwise? You cannot spool a spinning reel by reeling line onto the reel while allowing the bulk spool to roll around a pen or pencil or similar. The bulk line spool MUST be lying flat on the floor or held facing the spinning reel which allows the line to peel off the bulk spool in the same direction as it winds onto your reel. Reel line on for 10 or so complete cranks and then move the reel toward the bulk spool allowing slack in the line. If it twists, simply flip the bulk spool over and go 10 cranks more and do the same thing. The side that produces the less amount of twist when you slack the line is the side that you want to complete the fill from.The suggestions for YoZuri Hybrid Ultra Soft 6lb. get a big "ditto" from me.
Think about how the line is actually put on the bulk spools. The spool is horizontal and rotated to put the line on, much like a baitcaster. The best way to put line on a reel is to reverse this process and use the pencil method. Never had a problem doing it this way. The flipping the spool over until you don't see line twist method is hit or miss. Another tip- Always close the bail manually and pull out any slack, reducing the chance of reeling in a loop deep in the line which will be a nightmare to get out. That being said, 6lb Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultrasoft has been my choice of late, but good old Trilene is tough to beat as an all around choice.
I use 12 lb. hybrid on a 4000 Shimano for skipping Senkos and Ikas under and around boats and docks.
Balance the rod to the reel and you will be fine.
Quotehink about how the line is actually put on the bulk spools. The spool is horizontal and rotated to put the line on, much like a baitcaster. The best way to put line on a reel is to reverse this process and use the pencil method.
QuoteI used to do this, but it works better if you fill the reel using the pencil/chopstick method, with the line coming off the bottom of the filler spool. Much less twist this way.
Sorry guys, no offense, but I just ain't buying it. 8-)
i personaly have 12lb fluro on my 2500 size reel and have never had a problem.
QuotePut on 15 lbs on a 2000/2500 size spinning reel and you 'll get some of the worst wind knots you can imagine, as terrible as a backlash.
I use 15# PP on a cardinal 802, smaller reels I use 10#..........never a wind knot !
QuoteQuotehink about how the line is actually put on the bulk spools. The spool is horizontal and rotated to put the line on, much like a baitcaster. The best way to put line on a reel is to reverse this process and use the pencil method.QuoteI used to do this, but it works better if you fill the reel using the pencil/chopstick method, with the line coming off the bottom of the filler spool. Much less twist this way.Sorry guys, no offense, but I just ain't buying it. 8-)
I am buying it. I've used the "face the label up or down" method before. I've tried flipping it over. I've tried rolling it off like a baitcasting reel. I've had less twist with the rolling it off method as I have with any other way. I've yet to try the rolling it off the bottom however, and that is now next to try when I get new line this spring. I've also noticed that the flipping the spool over until you get less twist one way over the other is a hit or miss thing just like CWB said. This is just what I've seen personally. The first time I ever tried the flipping the spool it worked like a charm. The next 3 - 5 times seemed like it failed to have any effect at all. Then it would work again, then not. I finally gave it up and now spool every reel rolling it off instead.
QuoteQuotehink about how the line is actually put on the bulk spools. The spool is horizontal and rotated to put the line on, much like a baitcaster. The best way to put line on a reel is to reverse this process and use the pencil method.QuoteI used to do this, but it works better if you fill the reel using the pencil/chopstick method, with the line coming off the bottom of the filler spool. Much less twist this way.Sorry guys, no offense, but I just ain't buying it. 8-)
While you're pulling out tangles and trolling your twisties out,I'll be fishing, LOL.
I've been using 12# SpiderWire XXX SuperMono on my 2500 series reels for about 2 seasons now and very rarely have any problems. I love the stuff. However, YMMV.
I've always used the face up/down method. Last week I spooled 2 reels and neither up or down seemed to work. This has happened rarely in the past, but enough that I am going to give the pencil method a try. It cannot be any worse than this past weeks attempt.
For spooling I have used and and all methods. Using the roll off method, and using my right hand to hold the rod up keeping the line tight as it spools on is the best method I have found. Any line that unspools or creates bird nests is usually too stiff of a line for spinning reels and I change it out to a better quality line like 10-15 lb Pline CX, CXX or Power Pro braid 20-30lb
Unless you are using an 8000 series spinning reel, Id pass on the 10-15 lb. CXX - that's just terrible advice. I don't go over 8 lb. CXX on bass spinning tackle. The bigger stuff is for baitcasters.
Quotethat's just terrible advice.
Just because it doesn't work for you does not mean it does not work, please do not talk down to others just because something does not work FOR YOU. We are giving suggestions based on our experiences but it is ultimately up to the person to make their own choice and see what works for them.
You stated most of your experience is with baitcasters (unless you backtrack againto change your story), so leave the suggestions for this SPINNING reel thread to those of us that actually use them on more than a rare occasion.
My main spinning setup (Pflueger Trion GX-7 4740GX reel) has 12 lb Pline CX on it and is just as smooth and works better than any of the hundreds of mono or fluoro I have tried.
If you don't want to use it, don't. No one is forcing you to but telling others that someones opinion is terrible is just wrong. >
On standard 2000 & 3000 series bass reels,
heavy P-Line CXX will have issues.
agreed I have had issues with Pline CX and CXX higher than 15 lb on spinning reels, but I did not suggest that.
I never stated that most of my experience was with baitcasting gear. My stance has always been use the gear appropriate to the conditions, and what is comfortable to you. Telling someone to string up their spinning reel with 10-15 lb. P-line is terrible advice.
That's realism, not condescension. Ask 50 anglers that have used this line, to a man they'll say its not the best route.
If one feels the need line with that high a breaking strength, then braid is a better choice.
nice backtracking!
You seem to feel that your word and condescending tone counts for 50 people so feel free to think it as such.
I use it almost every weekend with no problems so I suggest it.
10-15 lb Pline CX or CXX, or 20-30 lb Power Pro
Pline over 15 lb does have issues on spinning gear.
You really don't know what you are talking about. Seriously dude. I'm done with your bs.
Spinning rod, 15# Power Pro, 4 or 6 lb. fluoro leader, 5-0 smallie:
The typical bass sized spinning reels are setup to use 6-10 pound test line (measured by line diameter and not break strength). If you want to use heavier/bigger line then buy a bigger spinning reel, learn to use a baitcaster, or use braid. Going above the manufacturer's guidelines is typically not a good idea.
It may work for a few people, but the majority of people know to use what is recommended.
I have the Pflueger Trion GX-7 model# 4740GX
it says 195yds of 10# test line
I am just wanting a good line that has low memory and stretch... I aint a pro but I just want some good equipment that I don't have to worry about like I do when I use fricken baitcasters
I'm the biggest proponent of CXX on this forum and there's no way in hell I would use anything larger than 8 lb. on a spinning reel.
CX, yes. But CX is a far different animal than CXX.
Much as I hate to admit it, I have to agree with Burley. CX is not as stiff as CXX.
Still wouldn't use either on a spinning reel.
The Braid/Leader combo JFranco brought up will work fine if you want a strong, thin line.
QuoteI have the Pflueger Trion GX-7 model# 4740GXit says 195yds of 10# test line
I am just wanting a good line that has low memory and stretch...
Gamma CoPoly (High Performance) 10lb Expensive and hard to find, but works great on spinning gear. Very few tangles and breaks about 17lb (if I remember correctly).
At the MOST I use 8lb on spinning reels. If I have to use line heavier than that I switch to baitcasters. The reason for that is spinning reels don't handle heavier line (which tends to be more coily and thicker than it's lighter counterparts) very well.
I think the vast majority of experienced anglers will agree that 12 lb line and higher is better reserved for baitcasters or larger sized spinning reels. Sure, some people might be alright with using heavy mono on spinning reels but I'm almost certain they'd be happier if they tried lighter lines instead.
QuoteQuoteI have the Pflueger Trion GX-7 model# 4740GXit says 195yds of 10# test line
I am just wanting a good line that has low memory and stretch...
Gamma CoPoly (High Performance) 10lb Expensive and hard to find, but works great on spinning gear. Very few tangles and breaks about 17lb (if I remember correctly).
the 10 lb. line has a breaking strength of 17.5 lbs. and the 12 lb. line has a breaking strength of 20 lbs.
QuoteI never stated that most of my experience was with baitcasting gear. My stance has always been use the gear appropriate to the conditions, and what is comfortable to you. Telling someone to string up their spinning reel with 10-15 lb. P-line is terrible advice.That's realism, not condescension. Ask 50 anglers that have used this line, to a man they'll say its not the best route.
If one feels the need line with that high a breaking strength, then braid is a better choice.
i totally agree with JFrancho and i will also say that to spool up a 2500 size spinning reel with 15 lb. CXX is ridiculous !!! spool it up with a hundred yards and then open the bail and 30 yards will jump off the spool in .3 seconds !!! like most everyone will tell you , 8 lb. is really the limit , i use 6 lb. CXX .......
The loop on, loop off thing is fine in theory, but that is not the way it is loaded onto the spool at the factory.
The problem with that method is that you can be taking a single loop off the spool four or five inches in diameter, and putting three or four loops on the reel spool which is a much smaller diameter.
Want to get it loaded with the proper "lay" on the reel spool? Fill your reel with either method. When you're on the water, and before you tie anything to the line, stream all the line off the reel at a slow speed.
Then with the boat stopped, or moving very slowly, reel the line in. The line will be free to twist in the water. This will allow it to be spooled onto your reel without any twist whatsoever.
I load my reels with the spool of line on an axle, and never had a problem, unless I overfilled the reel. Overloading the reel is the cause of most birdnesting problems. That, and not having any tension in the line which makes it loose on the spool, allowing several coils to fly off the reel when first cast.
Always have some tension in the line when retrieving line. On some retrieves, that means you may have to provide the tension by pinching the line slightly between your fingers.
Loose coils of line on any reel are anathema.
I do really well on Trilene XL in either 10# or 12#.
I don't go past 12# test on spinning set up....Too much of a hassle for me.
I also use yo zuri hybrid ultra soft in 6# test.
Both of those lines are very limp and very easy to control.
The best angler to ask is someone who fishes spinning gear exclusively from 1/8oz to 1 oz.
He or she would tell you that spinning gear and braided line is a match made in heaven
I've used most brands of braid and all line-tests, and have come to settle on Berkley 30-lb Fireline Braid.
To an angler who fishes with nylon monofilament, 30-lb line probably sounds like overkill,
but it's only .011 in diameter, the same as 8-lb nylon mono.
The diameter of 20-lb braid is just .002 less than 30-lb braid, but that extra .002 in diameter
virtually eliminates 'wind-knots' and 'line-burrowing', and provides improved 'abrasion-resistance'.
Go for it...and you'll never look back.
Roger
QuoteI have the Pflueger Trion GX-7 model# 4740GXit says 195yds of 10# test line
I am just wanting a good line that has low memory and stretch... I aint a pro but I just want some good equipment that I don't have to worry about like I do when I use fricken baitcasters
Ok thanks CX it is... I appreciate the great discussion
Why all the passion and fervor over line? Granted, some are better than others, but for the most part, they are all up to the task.
Way back when, Stren and Trilene were the ultimate. They were the cat's meow. Those brands are still marketed today, but they are the basic, entry level products of Stren and Berkley.
The problem seems to be that some who never fished in the cave man era do not realize or appreciate just how good they have it today, when it comes to equipment.
Take it from someone who had been away from freshwater fishing for over thirty years. Today's equipment is light years away from the gear of those days.
My dad had a surfcasting rod that he made from lemonwood. Wood rods were quite common before fiberglass came upon the scene. I seem to recall some were even made of tubular metal.
And you guys squabble about line?
Back then people gave bad advice, too. I recall my father spooling up his Quick 4000 with 20 lb. Stren, on the recommendation from the guy in the bait shop. I learned how to cuss that day.
QuoteBack then people gave bad advice, too. I recall my father spooling up his Quick 4000 with 20 lb. Stren, on the recommendation from the guy in the bait shop. I learned how to cuss that day.
LOL. Bad advice has been around as long as man has walked upright. No age is immune.
I've given as much bad advice as the next guy, even though none, ok, very little of it was deliberate.
I wasn't addressing the merits of the "arguments" just the intensity to which they degenerated.
Then again, my testosterone levels are no doubt lower than they were thirty years ago.
QuoteOk thanks CX it is... I appreciate the great discussion
Be advised that P-line CX (fluoro-sheathed copolymer line) has multifold the 'memory'
of braided polyethylene and multifold the line 'stretch' of braided line.
They're two very different animals. Although the CX ad states "low memory",
I'm sure they mean compared to a stair-walking Slinky.
Roger
Correct Rolo, CX has very low memory and very low stretch since it is a fluorocarbon coated copolymer line. Not fluoro, not mono, not fluoro-coated mono, it is a copolymer which has completely different characteristics than any other line type. The fluoro coating helps with the low visibility underwater and the copolymer gives it a slightly smaller diameter.
Pline CX 15 lb = 0.34mm
Yo Zuri Hybrid Fluorocarbon = 0.405mm
Power Pro 15 lb braid = 0.007mm
Ande Mono 16 lb = 0.375mm
Most others in the 15 lb range are in the same 0.37 to 0.41mm range.
So 15 lb Pline CX is closer to the equivalent of 12 lb of most other lines, and 12 lb is in the 8-10 lb test range of others.
QuoteI am looking for the best line I can put on my spinning reel. It will be for my shallow crankbaits and swimbaits. Would prefer it be between 10-15lb line.
What's the rod and reel, what size cranks, and do you mean soft or hard swimbaits, and how big on those too?
Berkley XL mono
QuoteQuoteOk thanks CX it is... I appreciate the great discussionBe advised that P-line CX (fluoro-sheathed copolymer line) has multifold the 'memory'
of braided polyethylene and multifold the line 'stretch' of braided line.
They're two very different animals. Although the CX ad states "low memory",
I'm sure they mean compared to a stair-walking Slinky.
Roger
CX has the same amount of memory as the benchmark of limpness, Trilene XL.
QuoteI use it almost every weekend with no problems so I suggest it.
10-15 lb Pline CX or CXX, or 20-30 lb Power Pro
Isn't that a little overkill for your carolina-rigged hot dog for bluegill?
No offense but I have seen post a lot of things on here that are just unbelievable or straight wrong to suggest. And I can't wait for someone to try one of your recommendations and come back cursing you. You might want to read more of the articles on here before you go on posting about anything and everything.
QuoteCX has the same amount of memory as the benchmark of limpness, Trilene XL.
P-line manufacturers fantastic line, there's no doubt about it, in fact Sufix is probably their only rival.
With regard to limpness, it's a known constant that fluorocarbon has significantly more memory than nylon.
Based on the inherent properties of the two materials, it doesn't seem physically possible
for any line jacketed in fluorocarbon (CX) to be as supple as pure nylon (XL).
Going further, the difference in limpness even between pure nylon and braid is like night and day.
Roger
Use braid with leaders! 8-)
QuoteWhy all the passion and fervor over line? Granted, some are better than others, but for the most part, they are all up to the task.Way back when, Stren and Trilene were the ultimate. They were the cat's meow. Those brands are still marketed today, but they are the basic, entry level products of Stren and Berkley.
The problem seems to be that some who never fished in the cave man era do not realize or appreciate just how good they have it today, when it comes to equipment.
Take it from someone who had been away from freshwater fishing for over thirty years. Today's equipment is light years away from the gear of those days.
My dad had a surfcasting rod that he made from lemonwood. Wood rods were quite common before fiberglass came upon the scene. I seem to recall some were even made of tubular metal.
And you guys squabble about line?
Some of the fun is discussing and sharing ideals and what folks use.
15/4 or 20/6 braid with a fluoro leader.