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Honesty time: I get a backlash 1 out of every ??? casts. 2024


fishing user avatarBankBassing reply : 

Spent the past couple months learning to cast a baitcaster.  Thanks to recently learning to better adjust my brakes and tension, my number of backlashes has gone down.  Still, I probably get a backlash once every 15 casts if I had to guess.  I'm curious how often it happens to more experienced anglers.  So fess up!  If you had to guess, what is your ratio of backlashes to casts. 

Also, is there something that helped you most to reduce this number?


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

Depends.  If it's a new to me reel, I might get some muffing several casts in a row, until I figure it out.  Some reels, never.  Fishing in wind with something like a spinnerbait, I might get some loose coils, and mabe a backlash or two in the trip.  It's part of the game.  Spinning reels are no better.  A day deep drops fishing for smallies with a drop shot or tube, and I'll get some coils flying off from twist.


fishing user avatarChoporoz reply : 

I'd say that it varies pretty greatly.  When wind is right, I've dialed in right, line is right, and lure is right...for the rod I'm using...I can go all day without a backlash.  When its windy and I'm trying to push it using lighter lure than optimal; I forgot to condition the line....it might be a few times a day...some days are just maddening and it is too many....I'd say that the ratio gets worse when I'm distracted...or for some reason, just not in a groove...I can just about guarantee a backlash...or perhaps a tree, when I see a nice bass blow up on the surface towards the outer 2/3 of my casting range...buck fever :)


fishing user avataronetime reply : 

J Francho is spot on, once you get them dialed in better, the less it will happen. I'll get a loose coil or two every trip usually casting lighter baits into the wind. I only had to cut out a backlash once in the last couple of years. Check out this video, it works like magic!

 

 


fishing user avatarRay K reply : 

Agree that wind is the main factor in how many backlashes I get.  If wind isn't a factor, I get zero backlashes in a day of fishing.  If fishing against the wind I may get one every half hour or so.  One way I minimize backlashes when fishing in wind is to re-adjust and check my brakes frequently.  When the wind kicks up, add some more centrifugal or magnetic brake and/or keep light thumb pressure on the spool during the cast.  Takes practice, I know.


fishing user avatarGundog reply : 

To answer your question, yea I get backlashes. But most of the ones I get nowadays take only a few seconds to pull out. Even the pros get them. If you have ever watched FLW/BASS/UMF/MLF and you see an angler make a cast and pull out some line, pinch the line and crank the reel he got a backlash. Its just that the backlashes they get are small. If you are getting backlashes that run through the majority of the line one suggestion I have is making a long cast, pulling off about 30-40 more feet of line and take a small piece of tape and place it where the line meets the spool. Basically what you are doing is making sure that the backlash doesn't go any further than that piece of tape. Once you learn how to control your baitcaster more you won't need the tape anymore.


fishing user avatarFelix77 reply : 

To me there are several aspects to the equation but bottom line is that with experience you will get less and less of them.

1 - Quality line and spooling it on properly.

2 - Properly balancing the rod, reel, line and lure properly.   I tend to err on more tension to begin.

3 - Casting.  The smoother the better.  The most backlashes have come from trying to cast lures a country mile or get too cute and soft with the cast.

As mentioned already wind can suck with certain lures.  In those cases keeping low (sidearm) and smooth helps a lot.

To answer the question specifically I can go days without a backlash now that I have honed in my setups.  For example I went 2 full days of a Kayak tournament without a single backlash this past weekend.  1 baitcaster had a Sexy Dawg, 1 had a light jig and the 3rd had a chatterbait.

Good luck.

 


fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 

I get a lot of  backlashes too some days worse than others . Todays faster reels are great but I have to get use to them and get both the tension knobs and brakes set precisely . I use to fish nothing but Ambassaduer  4600 c's and they were the most backlash proof reels that I have used  . I would show off in front of people who say they cant cast them because of backlashes .Setting the tension knob loosely with play in the spool ,  I would cast a lure as far as I could muster then  set the rod and reel on the ground while the  lure  was still way up in the air , with no backlashes , ever.   


fishing user avatarBass Turd reply : 

Another thread on this topic on this site helped me a bunch. When does the back lash occur? Beginning? Middle? or End? Beginning= Increase spool tension at knob. Middle= use your thumb very lightly as you feel the backlash starting to happen. End= increase brakes. Experiment from there. I find adding  Shimano centrifugal brakes (VBS or SVS) helps at the beginning also. I do not cast well with magnet based systems so I do not have any. 


fishing user avatarJar11591 reply : 

The only time I get a back lash is if I'm not paying attention when the lure hits the water.  1/1000?


fishing user avatarRHuff reply : 

Just make sure that the brake and magnet is set right. If the spool is set to turn too freely at a faster rate than the bait is moving through the air it will backlash a lot more frequently. Ideally you want the spool to spin at a slower rate than lure is traveling so that the lure actually turns the spool during the cast. This should help cut down on the frequency of the backlashes. 


fishing user avatarRatherbfishing reply : 

There is a direct correlation between the wind speed and direction, how light the lure is, and how much surface area the lure has as to how many backlashes I get.  But the largest factor USUALLY is how sloppy I am being.  MOST backlashes I experience, however, are pretty minor and if I take the time to fully "undo" them-especially the minor ones (which are less obvious) they will not haunt me later.


fishing user avatar"hamma" reply : 

I might get 1 or 2 on a normal full day but thats only when im not really paying attention. Then there are some days im just "off" and I get several.

 It all comes down to adjustments, and experience. After a couple seasons you should have them minimized.

 If your using a old reel, it could just use some DVT servicing (mike does a awesome job) He turned 2 reels "bought in 93" of mine I thought were all done,.. to like new.


fishing user avatarDarren. reply : 

Honestly? Well, for me, I rarely get a backlash.
If I'm trying to skip a low bridge, I might get one
but my thumb is pretty darn quick.

So as far as 1 in n, I really don't know, never counted.


fishing user avatarYakPirate reply : 

i'm new to the baitcaster game and currently using a lew's tourney MB, spooled with 15lb mono, and throwing jigs, cranks and heavier baits in general. Struggling with backlashes in 1/25 casts. Leaving the lake with more cut off line in my pocket than on the spool .. : /


fishing user avatarTorn Thumb reply : 

I've gotten it down to maybe 1/100 to 1/200. They are mostly small now, like a few loops and I use the trick from the above video. I will adjust with each new lure that I tie on, just to be safe. I tend to get over-confident and start thinking I can cast across the lake. That's when things get messy. Years of video games have trained my thumb to be fast so that doesn't tend to be the issue usually.


fishing user avatarSteveo-1969 reply : 

Wind is the biggest variable for me too.  There are days I won't backlash at all, and other days when I leave the river with only half the line on my reel that I started with because I had to cut a big one out.  Overall, I'd say if I get a bad one it's because I wasn't paying attention or get cocky and try to cast harder than necessary.

The reel I use most often has magnetic brakes only. When the wind is giving me fits I turn the magnetic brakes up until I can cast without worrying about backlashing, sacrificing some (mostly unnecessary) casting distance.


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 9/29/2016 at 1:02 AM, YakPirate said:

i'm new to the baitcaster game and currently using a lew's tourney MB, spooled with 15lb mono, and throwing jigs, cranks and heavier baits in general. Struggling with backlashes in 1/25 casts. Leaving the lake with more cut off line in my pocket than on the spool .. : /

You may not have the reel adjusted properly yet.  You shouldn't be backlashing with heavier lures.  Remember "smooth" is paramount with a casting reel.  How new?  How loose is the spool tension?  Where are the centrifugal and magnetic brakes set?

I don't know if I am right, but I make a distinction between over-runs and backlashes.  Over-runs I can just pull the loose coils out.  Backlashes have at least one spot that needs to be picked at before I can remove all the loose coils.

I seldom have over-runs and even less backlashes when standing.  When I visit my brother-in-law, I'll have several over-runs throughout the day and an occasionally backlash.  The reason is I have to restrict my back casts because I am sitting in the front of a 14" dingy, and it takes a couple days to smooth them out.  I seriously doubt he would enjoy a hook anywhere in his body.  :rolleyes:


fishing user avatarGlenn reply : 

1 - You're not completely dialed-in yet

2 - Your casting technique needs refinement.

Here are two videos to help with both:

 

 


fishing user avatarhoosierbass07 reply : 

After three or four years of playing around with my baitcasters I finally figured out the secret to successful casting - heavy lures/weights!  The heavier the better. 


fishing user avatarbigfruits reply : 

1 out of 15 casts sounds high. what reel, rod and bait are you using?


fishing user avatarBass_Fishing_Socal reply : 

It is still happen from time to time especially when changing from heavy lure to light lure or when changing reel. 

Last week I went out fish for a while changing lures a few time getting a small backlash very often until my friend said something must be wrong. I checked and you know what, the line wrap around my rod at the bottom guide. I dont know how that happen but after I fixed that no more backlash.


fishing user avatarYakPirate reply : 
  On 9/29/2016 at 1:51 AM, new2BC4bass said:

You may not have the reel adjusted properly yet.  You shouldn't be backlashing with heavier lures.  Remember "smooth" is paramount with a casting reel.  How new?  How loose is the spool tension?  Where are the centrifugal and magnetic brakes set?

I don't know if I am right, but I make a distinction between over-runs and backlashes.  Over-runs I can just pull the loose coils out.  Backlashes have at least one spot that needs to be picked at before I can remove all the loose coils.

I seldom have over-runs and even less backlashes when standing.  When I visit my brother-in-law, I'll have several over-runs throughout the day and an occasionally backlash.  The reason is I have to restrict my back casts because I am sitting in the front of a 14" dingy, and it takes a couple days to smooth them out.  I seriously doubt he would enjoy a hook anywhere in his body.  :rolleyes:

you are probably right about the adjusting aspect, i have the centrifugal brake set on 2 of 4 , and generally leave the external brake alone , and just calibrate each different bait with the tension knob .   Yea , i only had the reel for 3 months so i may need a little more trigger time.  you identify "over-runs" vs "back lashes. I may be having more over runs than back lashes because i can generally get them out with no problem. but they are frustrating to say the least , but it hasn't damped my like of the reel. I need some fall action to pickup around here as it has been skunk city lately.   i have been practicing my baitcasting primarily from shore to get the hang of it , normally i'd be in the Yak, but it has not earned my confidence yet to be welcomed on my ship.


fishing user avatarBankbeater reply : 

I get more back lashes casting than pitching.  I think that is because I forget to look behind me sometime while walking the bank.  Hitting a bush while bringing the rod back can really mess up your line.


fishing user avatargeo g reply : 

If your equipment is working correctly, time on the water will solve a lot of your problems.  You have to readjust for wind conditions.  If its a real windy day I will put the wind to my back and let the wind be my friend.  This really helps if I'm throwing light baits on a windy day.  If I'm fishing from the bank I will always check wind direction before I leave the truck.   I will  find areas where I can keep the wind coming from my back.  This really makes for easy casting and makes for an enjoyable day.  Lots of videos on adjusting a baitcaster.  Also some lines are easier to handle then others.  I would start with Mono until your past the novice level.  Lots of good monos on the market.


fishing user avatarBass Turd reply : 
  On 9/29/2016 at 8:16 AM, geo g said:

If your equipment is working correctly, time on the water will solve a lot of your problems.  You have to readjust for wind conditions.  If its a real windy day I will put the wind to my back and let the wind be my friend.  This really helps if I'm throwing light baits on a windy day.  If I'm fishing from the bank I will always check wind direction before I leave the truck.   I will  find areas where I can keep the wind coming from my back.  This really makes for easy casting and makes for an enjoyable day.  Lots of videos on adjusting a baitcaster.  Also some lines are easier to handle then others.  I would start with Mono until your past the novice level.  Lots of good monos on the market.

At first glance this casting with the wind idea sounds good... but.... from what I understand the bass will face into the wind (read current in their face) as this is where the bait fish will come from... down current. I just tie on a heavier lure that will cut the wind like a rattle trap. I've been trying to find the windiest bank lately and fish paralell to the bank most of the time trying to picture how the bass would be positioned. Wind=Current=Active feeding fish=Moving bait. 


fishing user avatarBankBassing reply : 
  On 9/29/2016 at 4:07 AM, bigfruits said:

1 out of 15 casts sounds high. what reel, rod and bait are you using?

Cherrywood HD 7ft Medium Heavy, Abu Garcia Silver Max, various baits.  My backlashes are totally my fault, not the equipment.  I get greedy and try to cast too far, and when I do I really sling it and cause one.  Sometimes, I'm backing off on my tension or brakes in an attempt to cast farther, and get just past proper adjustment.  The fishing where I am is extremely tough right now, so once I've exhausted all the shallow area, I'm trying to get as far out into the river as I can from the bank/dock.


fishing user avatarK_Mac reply : 

Like most of the other experienced guys I don't get many backlashes. Pitching a light bait or a spinnerbait in the wind will cause a little fluffing of the line, but not a big deal. I get careless occasionally and catch something on the back cast. That will test your backlash clearing skills! 

With a proper setup of your reel, and the line, rod and bait sized correctly, along with a couple years of experience will eliminate most of your issues. Be patient and enjoy the process.:thumbsup4:


fishing user avatargeo g reply : 
  On 9/29/2016 at 8:40 AM, Bass Turd said:

At first glance this casting with the wind idea sounds good... but.... from what I understand the bass will face into the wind (read current in their face) as this is where the bait fish will come from... down current. I just tie on a heavier lure that will cut the wind like a rattle trap. I've been trying to find the windiest bank lately and fish paralell to the bank most of the time trying to picture how the bass would be positioned. Wind=Current=Active feeding fish=Moving bait. 

Down here in south Florida,  we have so much thick heavy vegetation that treble hooks are often out of the question especially when fishing from the bank.  Plastics are often the baits of choice for us along with weedless frogs.  The more weight you add the less realistic the movement you get out of your bait.   When casting, the less weight the better the movement on the bait.  I often throw into the wind on normal windy days, but I'm not the one having the problem with a baitcaster and back lashes.  This post was to help a guy with a problem .  Adding weight just reduces the effectiveness of plastic baits.  I also use Floro or heavy braid for plastics, but I would not recommend for beginners having problems.    From the boat in deeper water, baits with trebles work fine 


fishing user avatarDogBone_384 reply : 

I sometimes backlash towards the end of the day, especially if I'm tired, when I drop my arm/wrist angle a bit. I also backlash more at pre/post dawn.

Other than the above and not adjusting my reel when the wind picks up, I don't backlash very much.


fishing user avatarflyfisher reply : 

if i am pitching i might get a few before i get back into the groove since i don't do it a ton but otherwise i may see one small one each full day of fishing.  


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 9/29/2016 at 4:26 AM, YakPirate said:

you are probably right about the adjusting aspect, i have the centrifugal brake set on 2 of 4 , and generally leave the external brake alone , and just calibrate each different bait with the tension knob .   Yea , i only had the reel for 3 months so i may need a little more trigger time.  you identify "over-runs" vs "back lashes. I may be having more over runs than back lashes because i can generally get them out with no problem. but they are frustrating to say the least , but it hasn't damped my like of the reel. I need some fall action to pickup around here as it has been skunk city lately.   i have been practicing my baitcasting primarily from shore to get the hang of it , normally i'd be in the Yak, but it has not earned my confidence yet to be welcomed on my ship.

Are you saying you don't use any external brakes?  I'd suggest around 8 on the external brake to start with.  I'd also increase the centrifugal brake to 3 while learning.  I believe my reels with centrifugal brakes all have 6 pins.  I can use 2, but casting is less critical with 3 on so that is where most are set.  Currently the only reel with less is an older blue Patriarch XT in which I have one internal brake on and 3 external. 

Magnetic brakes only work when the spool is spinning.  Same for centrifugal.  Spool tension is constant whether the spools spins or not.  Personally I'd rather run less spool tension and more brakes.  I feel this affects distance less.  Here is a good read.  http://www.another site/bassfishingforums/showthread.php?t=33004

I agree you should get better while bank fishing as sitting in a Yak is going to change your casting stroke.  In my case it takes some time to smooth out my casting stroke when I sit in the front of a dinghy.  Personally I feel it is easier to cast standing up than sitting down.  Sitting constricts side arm roll casts.  Speaking of roll casts, are you using a side arm or overhead cast?  Unless going for maximum accuracy, I use a roll cast even in my overhead casts.  This keeps the tip loaded throughout the cast which helps eliminate a jerk on the rod's reversal.  Make a bigger circle and/or speed up the forward part of the casting stroke for more distance.


fishing user avatarMassYak85 reply : 

It really depends, I could go all day and not backlash once in a few thousand casts, but it depends on the lure, reel, line and wind conditions. Heavier lures (like a whopper plopper 130) I rarely backlash with.Stuff that is more prone to catching in the wind or lighter baits I tend to backlash a fair amount until I get the reel dialed in perfectly. I tend to backlash more with fluoro/copoly/mono than braid too. The reel itself I feel plays a big part. I have a Conc. A and it takes a lot more to get that to backlash than some of my other reels. Then I have an LFS which I can dial in to cast really far but the line between backlash and a great cast is much finer and I tend to backlash more with that.  


fishing user avatarPreytorien reply : 

It happens to all of us. Some more frequently than others. I think just being careful about what weight lure you're throwing, and what kind of wind you're dealing with helps, as well as knowing your rod/reel setup and its limitations. 

One thing I do that helps drastically is to re-seat the line every so often on an outing. Cast as far out as you can feasibly do and reel back in steadily. Let the guide do it's thing and re-wrap the line and then your line won't have as many errant loops over itself. Then at the end of every trip I completely re-seat the line on my reels and re-wind them with some tension on the line. 

Really seems to help.....


fishing user avatarTurkey sandwich reply : 

It just happens sometimes.  Be it wind, size/weight of lures, trying to be over aggressive with the tension and braking, awkward casting angles, etc.. Some reels are just more prone, too.  I have some reels that may not backlash over an entire weekend on the water and others that I'll be pulling line from several times throughout the day.  I have a Speed Spool BB1 that will cast crankbaits a mile, but I have to stay conscious of it because of it's proneness to be be kind of a jerk.  On the other hand, I have Shimanos that I can all but forget about the brakes unless I'm trying to skip. 


fishing user avatarTeam9nine reply : 
  On 9/28/2016 at 10:51 PM, BankBassing said:

 So fess up!  If you had to guess, what is your ratio of backlashes to casts. 

Also, is there something that helped you most to reduce this number?

I get a backlash about 1 out of every 10,351 casts...but who's counting ;)

As for the latter question, time and experience B)

-T9


fishing user avatarfishwizzard reply : 

I got a BFS combo the other week and have been fishing it like crazy.  If I am wading in the middle of a river, I get a small easily fixable backlash every 10-20 casts, depending on wind.  If I am on the bank, it is far far worse.  I am still learning and trying to work around cover and branches results in a small backlash every 5-10 casts and I am up to two "tangled to the reel" backlashes so far.  

 I may need to invest in a 600y spool of 10lb braid at some point soon if I don't quickly improve.  


fishing user avatarS. Sass reply : 
  On 9/30/2016 at 4:30 AM, Bunnielab said:

I got a BFS combo the other week and have been fishing it like crazy.  If I am wading in the middle of a river, I get a small easily fixable backlash every 10-20 casts, depending on wind.  If I am on the bank, it is far far worse.  I am still learning and trying to work around cover and branches results in a small backlash every 5-10 casts and I am up to two "tangled to the reel" backlashes so far.  

 I may need to invest in a 600y spool of 10lb braid at some point soon if I don't quickly improve.  

10lb braid is going to be headed the wrong way IMHO 

Honestly a for real backlash probably I average 1/1000 I don't consider a 2 pull and clear a "backlash". 

Many backlashes are easily avoided. If you make sure your all clear and the line is tight before ever reeling after each cast. It's real easy to cast and reel not catching that one loose loop. Two or three casts later your scratching your head on what was by all accounts a easy cast that went horribly wrong. 


fishing user avatarTurkey sandwich reply : 
  On 9/30/2016 at 4:30 AM, Bunnielab said:

I got a BFS combo the other week and have been fishing it like crazy.  If I am wading in the middle of a river, I get a small easily fixable backlash every 10-20 casts, depending on wind.  If I am on the bank, it is far far worse.  I am still learning and trying to work around cover and branches results in a small backlash every 5-10 casts and I am up to two "tangled to the reel" backlashes so far.  

 I may need to invest in a 600y spool of 10lb braid at some point soon if I don't quickly improve.  

The smaller braid actually makes the backlashes worse becaus the small diameter settles and cuts in all over the spool, causing weird pockets of tight and loose line (the best I can describe it).  I do not spool baitcasters with braid under 30lb test. Put the 10lb braid on a spinning reel and spool your casting reels with 30-40lb braid.  You'll notice a HUGE difference. 


fishing user avatarfishwizzard reply : 

The reel I am messing with is a PX68. Using 10lb braid lets me get  a good amount of line on the spool while keeping it's ability to work small/light baits well.  I have 20lb braid on my M spinning combo and there is a noticeable difference working light lures compared to my ML combo which is spooled with 10lb braid.  Ideally I want to use 8lb YZH on this reel but I need to get better with it first, as that stuff is thick enough that a single bad backlash or breakoff will leave me very short on line. 


fishing user avatarPAfishing reply : 

If i'm using my Diawa reels and i remember to turn my brakes up, I'm usually good to go. Then somedays different factors like wind, brush, my girlfriends hair get in the way then I birds nest bad. Best thing I ever did was buy a $2 metal pick from a hardware store to pick the knots out.


fishing user avatarTurkey sandwich reply : 
  On 9/30/2016 at 6:49 AM, Bunnielab said:

The reel I am messing with is a PX68. Using 10lb braid lets me get  a good amount of line on the spool while keeping it's ability to work small/light baits well.  I have 20lb braid on my M spinning combo and there is a noticeable difference working light lures compared to my ML combo which is spooled with 10lb braid.  Ideally I want to use 8lb YZH on this reel but I need to get better with it first, as that stuff is thick enough that a single bad backlash or breakoff will leave me very short on line. 

 

 

What at do you need more than 50-70 yards of braid for?  :huh:

There is no good reason to run lighter line on a baitcaster than on a spinning reel.  The small diameter is a HUGE part of what's causing your problems.  Spool with 30lb braid and tie a leader of the 8lb Hybrid and you'll get he best of both worlds.  What you're doing right now will only sour you on casting gear, hinder your versatility, and set you back a TON of time no energy.  


fishing user avatarMosster47 reply : 

Almost never. I only use magnetic brakes and I always leave them on 5. I adjust the brake to where the bait drops roughly two feet per second on its own. 

The two biggest factors to me is line diameter and rod power. If you're throwing a Senko with 20lb fluoro on a heavy rod you're going to have a much harder time than 20lb braid on a medium rod. 


fishing user avatarBass_Fishing_Socal reply : 
  On 9/28/2016 at 10:51 PM, BankBassing said:

Spent the past couple months learning to cast a baitcaster.  Thanks to recently learning to better adjust my brakes and tension, my number of backlashes has gone down.  Still, I probably get a backlash once every 15 casts if I had to guess.  I'm curious how often it happens to more experienced anglers.  So fess up!  If you had to guess, what is your ratio of backlashes to casts. 

Also, is there something that helped you most to reduce this number?

Go with #4 copolymer then. I have that on my calcutta 50 and it goods for very lite lure/jig. 


fishing user avatarbagofdonuts reply : 

Someone please delete this thread. I read it yesterday before going out yesterday afternoon. I havent had a backlash in a while. It was pretty windy and I had one so bad i had to cut it out. I'm blaming it on this post. I don't remember last time I had one that bad. Fish were blowing up all around me and im picking at a reel.

Its like talking about shanking a nine iron. It's just something you don't talk about. As soon as you do... look what happens.


fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 

Ok , pulling a loop out is not a backash , so I  get them rarely ,once proper adjustments are made . Bad ones come when you hook something on the backcast , like your partner .


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 9/30/2016 at 11:22 PM, bagofdonuts said:

Someone please delete this thread. I read it yesterday before going out yesterday afternoon. I havent had a backlash in a while. It was pretty windy and I had one so bad i had to cut it out. I'm blaming it on this post. I don't remember last time I had one that bad. Fish were blowing up all around me and im picking at a reel.

Its like talking about shanking a nine iron. It's just something you don't talk about. As soon as you do... look what happens.

Why didn't you just use one of the other 16 rods you had with you and removed the backlash at home?  :lol:


fishing user avatarfishwizzard reply : 

Did it again this evening, lost about half of my spool.  Same dumb mistake, didn't look behind me. I was at a local pond, standing on the same rock I always do to cast under a dock.  Usually I have a 6' spinning rod with me and can cast from any angle without hitting the large thorn bush right behind my rock.   Today I had a 6'8" casting rod.  I guess I know now that the clearance from the tip of my spinning rod to the bushes is less then 8".  

New plan is to use only my 9' surf rod for bass till winter.  By spring the casting rod will seem so short and manageable!


fishing user avatarWPCfishing reply : 

I don't get them often. I suppose using a bait caster for 30+ years may have something to do with my results. 

Keep on casting.. let the rod work for you.


fishing user avatarJeff H reply : 

I get minor backlash every trip.  Fluffs all the time.  2 weeks ago I had a backlash that rendered that particular reel unusable the rest of the day.   That has not happened in many many years. That reel is a highly modified Fuego w/100M spool.  Excellent performance but the spool seems a tad unpredictable.  I'm leaving it in there though because when it's good (which is 95% of the time), it's really really good!


fishing user avatarBankBassing reply : 
  On 9/30/2016 at 11:22 PM, bagofdonuts said:

Someone please delete this thread. I read it yesterday before going out yesterday afternoon. I havent had a backlash in a while. It was pretty windy and I had one so bad i had to cut it out. I'm blaming it on this post. I don't remember last time I had one that bad. Fish were blowing up all around me and im picking at a reel.

Its like talking about shanking a nine iron. It's just something you don't talk about. As soon as you do... look what happens.

my mistake.  Sorry. LOL


fishing user avatard-camarena reply : 

Only time im getting backlashes is when i skip too many times under docks. Sometimes ill get a backlash or two


fishing user avatarbuzzed bait reply : 
  On 9/28/2016 at 11:23 PM, Felix77 said:

3 - Casting.  The smoother the better.  The most backlashes have come from trying to cast lures a country mile or get too cute and soft with the cast.

i don't get many myself, but when i do, it's usually from trying to literally whip the rod.  just a good smooth consistent cast is what you want, all part of getting it all dialed in...


fishing user avatarAndrewJ reply : 

I am like you, in the fact that I have just started using baitcasters.  I dont have a number for you in terms of casts, but I will say I backlash every time I take my mind off of the cast.


fishing user avatarRaul reply : 

Honesty time: I get a backlash every ...... really dude ? The last thing I care is how many casts I make.


fishing user avatarBankBassing reply : 
  On 10/1/2016 at 7:12 PM, Raul said:

Honesty time: I get a backlash every ...... really dude ? The last thing I care is how many casts I make.

Then feel free to ignore the post.  No need to be a jerk about it.


fishing user avatarThe Patriot reply : 

I got my first baitcaster about a month ago.  Surprisingly it came pretty easy to me.  I learned how to set up the reel for each lure before even using it and practiced in the yard with a plug for about a half hour when I got it home.  When I cast I keep my thumb lightly feathering the line and apply pressure right when the lure hits the ground/water.  Ive had it over spin a few times but I just press the reel with my thumb and pull the line out a bit.  I just had my first actual birds nest yesterday.  I had it spooled with braid as my main line which made getting the nest out virtually impossible.  Had to cut the line off the reel.  I didnt have enough braid left over to fully spool it again so I used 10lb mono as a backer and then filled the rest with 20lb braid and went back out.  Casting seems more controlled this way in terms of controlling the line, although my casting distance isnt quite as great.   


fishing user avatarFishinthefish reply : 

I back lash once every four or five outings usually as a result of me trying to throw something weightless against the wind. I usually stop it before it gets too bad.


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 10/2/2016 at 10:20 PM, The Patriot said:

I got my first baitcaster about a month ago.  Surprisingly it came pretty easy to me.  I learned how to set up the reel for each lure before even using it and practiced in the yard with a plug for about a half hour when I got it home.  When I cast I keep my thumb lightly feathering the line and apply pressure right when the lure hits the ground/water.  Ive had it over spin a few times but I just press the reel with my thumb and pull the line out a bit.  I just had my first actual birds nest yesterday.  I had it spooled with braid as my main line which made getting the nest out virtually impossible.  Had to cut the line off the reel.  I didnt have enough braid left over to fully spool it again so I used 10lb mono as a backer and then filled the rest with 20lb braid and went back out.  Casting seems more controlled this way in terms of controlling the line, although my casting distance isnt quite as great.   

I know people use 20# braid on baitcasters, but I still feel 40# is a better option.  Less chance of digging in and causing those unwanted backlashes plus the very real possibility of losing a lure when it happens.  I've got 30# braid on a MH worm and jig spinning rod.  I've straightened out jig hooks with it.  I've also tossed a new jig half way across the lake when the line wrapped around the rod tip without me noticing it.  A used casting reel came with 30# braid.  Had to make several casts and pull more line out before I got past all the spots where it had dug in.  Admittedly I have had no further problems even though I've snagged a few lily pads with it.  However, I do make a long cast every so often, and hold the line tight between thumb and finger on the retrieve to keep the line packed tight on the spool.  Not something I normally do with 40# braid.

I am glad using a baitcaster came easy to you.  Was a bit harder for me.....but....practice eventually paid off.  I have no idea why your casting distance isn't as good now that the spool is half filled with mono backing.  That is how I fill all my reels that use braid or fluorocarbon.  Too expensive otherwise.


fishing user avatarThe Patriot reply : 
  On 10/3/2016 at 12:12 AM, new2BC4bass said:

I know people use 20# braid on baitcasters, but I still feel 40# is a better option.  Less chance of digging in and causing those unwanted backlashes plus the very real possibility of losing a lure when it happens.  I've got 30# braid on a MH worm and jig spinning rod.  I've straightened out jig hooks with it.  I've also tossed a new jig half way across the lake when the line wrapped around the rod tip without me noticing it.  A used casting reel came with 30# braid.  Had to make several casts and pull more line out before I got past all the spots where it had dug in.  Admittedly I have had no further problems even though I've snagged a few lily pads with it.  However, I do make a long cast every so often, and hold the line tight between thumb and finger on the retrieve to keep the line packed tight on the spool.  Not something I normally do with 40# braid.

I am glad using a baitcaster came easy to you.  Was a bit harder for me.....but....practice eventually paid off.  I have no idea why your casting distance isn't as good now that the spool is half filled with mono backing.  That is how I fill all my reels that use braid or fluorocarbon.  Too expensive otherwise.

I spooled with 20# simply because I had it.  If I were buying new line for it, I probably would have went with 50# because in western mass ponds, theres lots of vegetation, laydowns, debris, etc.  My 20# braid definitely digs in from time to time.  I'm probably going to switch out the braid fairly soon as  I've been practicing more with fishing laydowns, grass, and throwing jigs (casting, swim, and football).  I dont throw them enough so I never got comfortable with them.  Now that I'm focusing on that more, I want the heavier line.  Moving forward, the money saved with mono backing is enough for me to give up a little casting distance. 


fishing user avatarMBB Nate reply : 

Since I respooled my Lews LFS with 15# Yo Zuri hybrid a month ago I have had 0.  I don't even turn on the brake any more.  When I had braid on it I would get a few a day.




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