Loomis 2025
deerhunter reply :
Are loomis rods overrated?
Carrington reply :
i would say yes, havnt been pleased with mine.
BrianinMD reply :
I have one, an IMX FSR904x. I am not overly impressed with it for the price. If I had my choice I would sell it and get another Dobyns, very impressed with the 2 Dobyns rods I have now.
via reply :
i have a spinnerbait one and i like it alot.
WanderLust reply :
I have a BCR803 GLX and its easily the best rod I fished... EVER.
Rods that are in the same class are also awesome so it depends on your point of view.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I had one and didn't like it very much for how much I paid, could have bought a few St. Croix Mojos or a combo or two for the same price.
senile1 reply :
I don't think the GLX series is overrated. I own an MBR844C and it is a sweet rod. They may be a bit overpriced.
fathom reply :
depends on which loomis we're talking.
outside of the cbr series, am not a huge fan of the mossybacks, bronzebacks, gl2's and 3's or any of the other composite models...good rods, but there are a lot of good rods out there that can match their performance.
the glx models, however, are still gold standards...in my hands, still not beaten in terms of crispness, lightness, responsiveness and sensitivity.
can't speak to the nrx...yet.
esoxangler reply :
I have several GL3's and I like them a lot, but do think they are a bit over priced. I think you can find as good or better (St. Croix Avids) for a bit less money.
Dan-K reply :
Loomis is outdated and overrated. I have sold all my Loomis sticks and replaced them with Dobyns... I made a wise decision in my opinion.
steezy reply :
The GLX series are tough to beat, I have 2 GLX's, they are worth every dollar, I just wish they were split grip and not cork so I'm going to try one of the new NRX and expect the same or better high quality rod.
-Steezy
roadwarrior reply :
Hmm...
I have a few and like them a lot.
However, a well respected member, Bassin Blvd,
has stated that a NRX contrasts to a GLX as a
GLX compares to a 2 X 4!
Back on topic, G. Loomis is the standard by which
all other rods are judged. Loomis starts at IMX.
Below that series are better values in other brands.
I like St. Croix Avids and Legend Elite. Great rods
occasionally on sale for tremendous value. I like my
St. Croix, I love my G. Loomis.
8-)
Bassn Blvd reply :
QuoteI have a BCR803 GLX and its easily the best rod I fished... EVER.Rods that are in the same class are also awesome so it depends on your point of view.
What rods have you fished that are in the same class as GLX and NRX? I don't know of too many other rods that are as good or better than the GLX and NRX series.
Bassn Blvd reply :
Loomis rods are definitely not over rated. I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by over rated. The GLX and NRX series are every bit as lightweight and sensitive as advertised. You can feel a bass fart from 20 feet away ;D.
Now, I have never used any series under the IMX series so I can't say if they live up to their name, but from what I here, there are other brands that are as good or better than the GL2 and GL3.
Do I think the GLX and NRX are over priced based on how they perform? No, but that's just me.
jeb2 reply :
Quotedepends on which loomis we're talking.
I agree. I have a few GLX Loomis rods. Some are fantastic, like the BCR803's and MBR843. Very sensitive rods. But others, like my BCR804's, BCR852, CR722, not so much. I think there are a select few Loomis rods that are worth the money, but many that are not, at least compared to what else is available.
Alpster reply :
I have no experience with G.Loomis except for IMX and GLX rods. I think they are wonderful and agree with RW that they are rightfully the "Gold Standard". Since Loomis has stopped selling these blanks, all of my customs are now being built on Lamiglas blanks.
Ronnie
juicehound reply :
idk...i think the GLX series is overrated. i have three of them - MBR843C, 844X, and SJR-782.
I just went fishing today w/ texas rigged senkos using the 843 and honestly it was sensitive but not so much more sensitive than my Bass pro shops extreme rod to justify keeping the rod - No i'm not kidding or crazy - I've caught so many on the extreme rod and for a 70$ rod compared to my GLX which i got for an AMAZING price (considering its a glx) of 175$, I don't think the GLX is really worth the ~100& more...I'm sure there are rods that are comparably sensitive to the glx and significantly lighter than the heavy extreme rod that would be somewhere in the middle of those two in price that I would be much more satisfied with than both the GLX and BPS extreme
my only question is why everyone raves about the GLX rods - they aren't really special to me at all - only thing i could think of is people telling themselves its the best rod they ever owned b/c they dropped nearly 400$ on it
OR
(and this is a question for all of you)
is there a difference b/t the original loomis rods and those that are made by shimano...b/c that could explain why some love them and some think they are just good rods.
flippin and pitchin reply :
The company has gone through a real transformation, LCI, Loomis Composites, Loomis and G Loomis and now that Gary sold his interest it's G Loomis by Shimano. Only a G Loomis owner can qualify if they are overrated, they bought and fished them. I've owned several over the years. I sold them and I think I have found rods that better meet my expectations for what they cost me. I got my money's worth.
tomustang reply :
On 5/6/2012 at 11:06 AM, flippin and pitchin said:The company has gone through a real transformation, LCI, Loomis Composites, Loomis and G Loomis and now that Gary sold his interest it's G Loomis by Shimano. Only a G Loomis owner can qualify if they are overrated, they bought and fished them. I've owned several over the years. I sold them and I think I have found rods that better meet my expectations for what they cost me. I got my money's worth.
Now? Gary sold his g loomis company back in '97
jeb2 reply :
On 5/6/2012 at 10:55 AM, razzy3789 said:idk...i think the GLX series is overrated. i have three of them - MBR843C, 844X, and SJR-782.
I just went fishing today w/ texas rigged senkos using the 843 and honestly it was sensitive but not so much more sensitive than my Bass pro shops extreme rod to justify keeping the rod - No i'm not kidding or crazy - I've caught so many on the extreme rod and for a 70$ rod compared to my GLX which i got for an AMAZING price (considering its a glx) of 175$, I don't think the GLX is really worth the ~100& more...I'm sure there are rods that are comparably sensitive to the glx and significantly lighter than the heavy extreme rod that would be somewhere in the middle of those two in price that I would be much more satisfied with than both the GLX and BPS extreme
my only question is why everyone raves about the GLX rods - they aren't really special to me at all - only thing i could think of is people telling themselves its the best rod they ever owned b/c they dropped nearly 400$ on it
OR
(and this is a question for all of you)
is there a difference b/t the original loomis rods and those that are made by shimano...b/c that could explain why some love them and some think they are just good rods.
The MBR GLX series is not the most sensitive rod in the GLX lineup. It's claim to fame is that it's a versatile rod that is still very sensitive. The BCR series rods is all about the bottom contact baits, jig and rigs. I have some of each and almost never use the MBR's for bottom stuff. The BCR's are just better at it. But they're less versatile. That's where I feel the NRX's niche is. It combines the sensitivity of the BCR and the versatility of the MBR, at least for much of the NRX lineup.
I do agree with others, though, that the brand is being tarnished by Shimano, especially with their warranty and service program constantly changing for the worse the last year or so. And the various quality issues in the NRX line have been just flat horrible.
I don't think Loomis is the only game in town, either. There are lots of great rods out there. I have some Dobyn's Extreme sticks that are really great. Shop around and find what works best for you.
northern basser reply :
Over priced but not overrated
roadwarrior reply :
First post and you revive a three month old thread to diss a rod company?
Although it wouldn't be fair for a GLX fan to compare his rod to any brand
at a $70 pricing point, stating that the BPS rod is on par with a GLX is simply
ridiculous. Not a great way to introduce yourself.
Stasher1 reply :
On 5/6/2012 at 10:24 PM, roadwarrior said:First post and you revive a three month old thread to diss a rod company?
Although it wouldn't be fair for a GLX fan to compare his rod to any brand
at a $70 pricing point, stating that the BPS rod is on par with a GLX is simply
ridiculous. Not a great way to introduce yourself.
Actually it's 15 months old. 
K_Mac reply :
This is one of those threads that adds no value. Have a specific like or dislike about a certain rod, that may be worthy of discussion; a general condemnation of any brand, esp one that has stood the test of time like GLoomis is just trolling in my opinion. I don't own any Loomis rods-not because I think they they are over-priced, just outside of my budget.
While I'm at it: I use inexpensive rods because I have determined what is "good enough" for me. I do not think my Extreme rods are comparable with GLX-they are not, and to say they they are is just silly IMO. To say they are not worth the price to YOU is valid, but it does not mean they are not worth the premium to others. Use what you like and can afford. Tell me why you like them. Anything beyond that has little, if any value, in my not so humble opinion.
One more thing: you can condemn changes in warranty if you choose. I think the changes make good business sense. How that plays out will be determined by the market. I'm done now... 
juicehound reply :
On 5/6/2012 at 11:25 AM, Tom D. said:Now? Gary sold his g loomis company back in '97
yeah i knew it was a while back but didn't know exactly when - does that really matter lol the point is the company is no longer in his hands
On 5/6/2012 at 11:06 AM, flippin and pitchin said:The company has gone through a real transformation, LCI, Loomis Composites, Loomis and G Loomis and now that Gary sold his interest it's G Loomis by Shimano. Only a G Loomis owner can qualify if they are overrated, they bought and fished them. I've owned several over the years. I sold them and I think I have found rods that better meet my expectations for what they cost me. I got my money's worth.
yeah i'm going to find the right rod for senkos and other bottom baits - the 843c is definitely not it for the price
On 5/6/2012 at 5:49 PM, jeb2 said:The MBR GLX series is not the most sensitive rod in the GLX lineup. It's claim to fame is that it's a versatile rod that is still very sensitive. The BCR series rods is all about the bottom contact baits, jig and rigs. I have some of each and almost never use the MBR's for bottom stuff. The BCR's are just better at it. But they're less versatile. That's where I feel the NRX's niche is. It combines the sensitivity of the BCR and the versatility of the MBR, at least for much of the NRX lineup.
I do agree with others, though, that the brand is being tarnished by Shimano, especially with their warranty and service program constantly changing for the worse the last year or so. And the various quality issues in the NRX line have been just flat horrible.
I don't think Loomis is the only game in town, either. There are lots of great rods out there. I have some Dobyn's Extreme sticks that are really great. Shop around and find what works best for you.
this is very helpful info thanks! i'll have to pick up a BCR GLX for kicks and see what happens- i'll also check out dobyns
would the rods w/ the recoil guides add sensitivity for those type of techniques? i would think they would.
On 5/6/2012 at 10:24 PM, roadwarrior said:First post and you revive a three month old thread to diss a rod company?
Although it wouldn't be fair for a GLX fan to compare his rod to any brand
at a $70 pricing point, stating that the BPS rod is on par with a GLX is simply
ridiculous. Not a great way to introduce yourself.
not really... - it's my first post and i'm looking for some discussion/clarification on my experience - who are you king of the thread or something? you sure sound like it w/ your reply to my post
jeb2 gave me some great info w/o a ridiculous statement/criticism of my first post, as did the others but why couldn't you?
also i never said the two rods were equal in sensitivity - i would re-read my post. i said i didn't think the difference in sensitivity justifies the massive price difference.
and have you even fished with a BPS extreme rod to make that statement?
On 5/6/2012 at 11:13 PM, Stasher1 said:Actually it's 15 months old.
lol
On 5/7/2012 at 12:46 AM, K_Mac said:This is one of those threads that adds no value. Have a specific like or dislike about a certain rod, that may be worthy of discussion; a general condemnation of any brand, esp one that has stood the test of time like GLoomis is just trolling in my opinion. I don't own any Loomis rods-not because I think they they are over-priced, just outside of my budget.
While I'm at it: I use inexpensive rods because I have determined what is "good enough" for me. I do not think my Extreme rods are comparable with GLX-they are not, and to say they they are is just silly IMO. To say they are not worth the price to YOU is valid, but it does not mean they are not worth the premium to others. Use what you like and can afford. Tell me why you like them. Anything beyond that has little, if any value, in my not so humble opinion.
One more thing: you can condemn changes in warranty if you choose. I think the changes make good business sense. How that plays out will be determined by the market. I'm done now...
quite the lovely bunch we have here on BR forums...
no trolling here - just dropped ~400 on two used MBR GLX's and not particularly happy w/ the value per dollar I am getting currently compared to other rods i own/have used (in this case the BPS extreme)
looking for some actual input and help on what i experienced w/ the rods
and i wasn't talking about anything but comparing sensitivity - they are most certainly not equal rods - the extreme rods are very heavy and the GLX's aren't for example
i'm just making a statement of my experience with a rod that costs more than 4x the price of a different rod i own and stating that it doesn't outperform it to the degree to make it worth it!
J Francho reply :
QuoteThis is one of those threads that adds no value.
Some threads are just for entertainment purposes, lol.
outdoorsman110 reply :
RESPECT THE LOOMIS! RESPECT IT!On 5/6/2012 at 10:55 AM, razzy3789 said:idk...i think the GLX series is overrated. i have three of them - MBR843C, 844X, and SJR-782.
I just went fishing today w/ texas rigged senkos using the 843 and honestly it was sensitive but not so much more sensitive than my Bass pro shops extreme rod to justify keeping the rod - No i'm not kidding or crazy - I've caught so many on the extreme rod and for a 70$ rod compared to my GLX which i got for an AMAZING price (considering its a glx) of 175$, I don't think the GLX is really worth the ~100& more...I'm sure there are rods that are comparably sensitive to the glx and significantly lighter than the heavy extreme rod that would be somewhere in the middle of those two in price that I would be much more satisfied with than both the GLX and BPS extreme
my only question is why everyone raves about the GLX rods - they aren't really special to me at all - only thing i could think of is people telling themselves its the best rod they ever owned b/c they dropped nearly 400$ on it
OR
(and this is a question for all of you)
is there a difference b/t the original loomis rods and those that are made by shimano...b/c that could explain why some love them and some think they are just good rods.
I've owned 10 Loomis rods, I own 4 now.. I had to sell em the rest, outstanding rods, all picked up at thrift shops and pawnshops.
Hot n Tot reply :
Just wondering why you purchased the two GLX rods in the first place? You must have like the feel and balance of them? What did you expect? Just wondering.
Alpster reply :
If your interested in getting rid of those overrated GLX rods, I will gladly trade you brand new BPS Extreams for them. Just let me know.
Ronnie
jeb2 reply :
On 5/7/2012 at 9:46 PM, razzy3789 said:this is very helpful info thanks! i'll have to pick up a BCR GLX for kicks and see what happens- i'll also check out dobyns
would the rods w/ the recoil guides add sensitivity for those type of techniques? i would think they would.
I've never really heard anyone say that. I think it's the stiffer tips on most of the BCR's that gives them the extra feel. The BCR803 is still a rod used to measure almost all comers against for bottom contact sensitivity. If you're going to get one and the specs fit your needs, that's where I'd concentrate my efforts.
Bassn Blvd reply :
The Loomis BCR 893 GLX is a very good Senko rod. In fact, other than the Loomis NRX 893C JWR, it's he best Senko rod Loomis makes. The rod is very sensitive and has plenty of power to pull fish away from trouble.
Why are you even contributing to this thread since your BPS rods are your pick? Someday you will realize that you're talking out your ars when it comes to comparing the two rods.
juicehound reply :
On 5/7/2012 at 10:15 PM, outdoorsman110 said:RESPECT THE LOOMIS! RESPECT IT!
I've owned 10 Loomis rods, I own 4 now.. I had to sell em the rest, outstanding rods, all picked up at thrift shops and pawnshops.
if a rod doesn't perform the way its price requires it to then it doesn't get my respect - that's just basic consumer satisfaction
i do respect Gary Loomis and what he has done but for me the 783C wasn't exceptional for texas rigged senko fishing...
On 5/8/2012 at 12:52 AM, Hot n Tot said:Just wondering why you purchased the two GLX rods in the first place? You must have like the feel and balance of them? What did you expect? Just wondering.
sure - i had high expectations of them due to a lot of great reviews (including many on this website) of people who have used them and couldn't say enough about how amazing they were so i went on ebay and picked up what i thought would be the three most versatile rods in the GLX range and have been fishing with them lately. i purchased them without ever handling one at a store.
On 5/8/2012 at 1:02 AM, Alpster said:If your interested in getting rid of those overrated GLX rods, I will gladly trade you brand new BPS Extreams for them. Just let me know.
Ronnie
hey ronnie you've got some quality jokes, but no thanks.
On 5/8/2012 at 1:15 AM, jeb2 said:I've never really heard anyone say that. I think it's the stiffer tips on most of the BCR's that gives them the extra feel. The BCR803 is still a rod used to measure almost all comers against for bottom contact sensitivity. If you're going to get one and the specs fit your needs, that's where I'd concentrate my efforts.
alright great! i'll be looking for a used BCR803 and will be selling my MBR843 on ebay soon
Edited by J FranchoRude, disrespectful comments removed
Bassn Blvd reply :
Additionaly, RW might know a thing or two about Loomis rods and fishing in general.
You said you wanted advice? Heres's some advice- You chose the wrong Loomis rods for the technique in which you want to fish. Perhaps you need to do your research before you buy, NOT after.
More advice?, ok. Never mind, I will certainly get banned if I give you the advice that you realy need.
outdoorsman110 reply :
Teehee.On 5/8/2012 at 1:33 AM, razzy3789 said:if a rod doesn't perform the way its price requires it to then it doesn't get my respect - that's just basic consumer satisfaction
i do respect Gary Loomis and what he has done but for me the 783C wasn't exceptional for texas rigged senko fishing...
sure - i had high expectations of them due to a lot of great reviews (including many on this website) of people who have used them and couldn't say enough about how amazing they were so i went on ebay and picked up what i thought would be the three most versatile rods in the GLX range and have been fishing with them lately. i purchased them without ever handling one at a store.
hey ronnie you've got some quality jokes, but no thanks.
alright great! i'll be looking for a used BCR803 and will be selling my MBR843 on ebay soon
juicehound reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 1:28 AM, Bassn Blvd said:The Loomis BCR 893 GLX is a very good Senko rod. In fact, other than the Loomis NRX 893C JWR, it's he best Senko rod Loomis makes. The rod is very sensitive and has plenty of power to pull fish away from trouble.
Why are you even contributing to this thread since your BPS rods are your pick? Someday you will realize that you're talking out your ars when it comes to comparing the two rods.
On 5/8/2012 at 1:44 AM, Bassn Blvd said:Additionaly, RW might know a thing or two about Loomis rods and fishing in general.
You said you wanted advice? Heres's some advice- You chose the wrong Loomis rods for the technique in which you want to fish. Perhaps you need to do your research before you buy, NOT after.
More advice?, ok. Never mind, I will certainly get banned if I give you the advice that you realy need.
why are so many people on here so rude and defensive/sensitive? - its not like you guys designed the rods or something....
i'm contributing to the thread b/c people on here have experience w/ bass gear and i'm looking for some advice/thoughts
i googled overrated and GLX and it brought me here so i'm jumping into the convo b/c that's what i'm experiencing right now...so what's the big deal with that?
and you are just like king road warrior - you didn't read my post correctly - i DO NOT like the BPS extreme rod better for several reasons BUT the sensitivity of the 843 is NOT GOOD ENOUGH for me to justifiy the price increase - thus i'm looking for an alternative and that was suggested by you and jeb2 so that's what i'll try
and do you mean 803? must have been a typo
and to your second comment you are completely wrong - i looked at the loomis website and for the MBR843C GLX it says
"
An excellent all around jig and worm rod especially in deep-water applications. The extra length gives you much more casting range too. Anglers have discovered its versatility for pike, walleyes, snook, redfish and other light saltwater species. It’s powerful, with a light tip and still has enough power to move fish away from cover. Works extremely well for soft jerkbaits. A classic example of GLX technology at it's finest.
so don't tell me that i didn't look before i bought.
Edited by GlennRemoved inflammatory remark.
Glenn reply :
Ok, guys, it's fishing, not stock advice. Check your emotions at the door if you're going to post on this thread.
Final warning before we shut it down.
juicehound reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 1:58 AM, Glenn said:Ok, guys, it's fishing, not stock advice. Check your emotions at the door if you're going to post on this thread.
Final warning before we shut it down.
now there's a moderator that i like!
outdoorsman110 reply :
So basically you don't like roadwarrior because he told you the truth.. Lol.On 5/8/2012 at 2:17 AM, razzy3789 said:now there's a moderator that i like!
outdoorsman110 reply :
Bassn Blvd FTW.On 5/8/2012 at 1:44 AM, Bassn Blvd said:Additionaly, RW might know a thing or two about Loomis rods and fishing in general.
You said you wanted advice? Heres's some advice- You chose the wrong Loomis rods for the technique in which you want to fish. Perhaps you need to do your research before you buy, NOT after.
More advice?, ok. Never mind, I will certainly get banned if I give you the advice that you realy need.
WookieeJedi reply :
I don't use high-end rods, mainly because fishing from the yak greatly increases the chance of snapping a tip. My rods vary from $10 to $70, anything more than that isn't worth the risk. If ever I go back to a bass boat, I may decide to buy a little more expensive stuff.
Here's the thing about the G. Loomis brand and their ilk, the top of the market drives improvement in the rest of the market. This is true of just about any industry. So rather than despising someone's rod of choice because it is really expensive, keep in mind their choice made more affordable rods better quality. So, to the guys who spent $400 on a rod, I say thanks, and keep up the good work.
Bassn Blvd reply :
For what it's worth, here is my opinion on G Loomis. I have no facts to back any of the following statements or ideas; they're just my opinion, right or wrong.
Before graphite, we fished with primarily glass rods. From what I recall, Loomis was one of the first to develop a quality graphite rod when graphite started to come out in the market. I believe Loomis set the ground work for quality graphite rods, thus were a bit more expensive than most other brands at that time.
Loomis built a name for him developing his rods and gained the respect of fisherman who used his product. Due to the advantages of graphite over glass, rod manufacturers had no choice but to build graphite rods.
Fast forward to today. There are so many different graphite rod manufacturers out there that you can easily find a quality rod without breaking the bank. Technology/education has allowed for rod manufactures to build quality graphite rods that aren't probably too different from one another, other than the price tag.
I believe rod manufacturers have closely caught up to the quality of that of the Loomis rods and some haven't.
I also believe sensitivity is in the hands of the beholder, not so much the rod. Like many others, my hands are very sensitive at detecting bites or bottom debris. I can feel bites using a BPS rod while others may or may not. I prefer Loomis because they offer rods that enhance the sensitivity and I simply like their rods. Are there other rods out there that perform "just as well," sure. I honestly think that if you have a hard time detecting bites with any rod, then try using a GLX or NRX rod by Loomis and see if your "bite detecting" improves.
baluga reply :
On 5/7/2012 at 10:02 PM, J Francho said:Some threads are just for entertainment purposes, lol.
True that! 
tomustang reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 3:19 AM, Bassn Blvd said:I also believe sensitivity is in the hands of the beholder, not so much the rod.
I agree, for some of us we are trained in the slightest of taps or learned have detect them.
Kudos to glenn for showing the post editor
juicehound reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 2:27 AM, outdoorsman110 said:So basically you don't like roadwarrior because he told you the truth.. Lol.
no i don't like his response to my post on this thread - it was rude and accusational
On 5/8/2012 at 2:34 AM, WookieeJedi said:I don't use high-end rods, mainly because fishing from the yak greatly increases the chance of snapping a tip. My rods vary from $10 to $70, anything more than that isn't worth the risk. If ever I go back to a bass boat, I may decide to buy a little more expensive stuff.
Here's the thing about the G. Loomis brand and their ilk, the top of the market drives improvement in the rest of the market. This is true of just about any industry. So rather than despising someone's rod of choice because it is really expensive, keep in mind their choice made more affordable rods better quality. So, to the guys who spent $400 on a rod, I say thanks, and keep up the good work.
i have no problem with what anyone spends their money on as far as rods are concerned - i just don't think the 783 i have for senko fishing is worth it - that's why i'm going to try a different GLX - the 803 and see what happens
On 5/8/2012 at 3:19 AM, Bassn Blvd said:For what it's worth, here is my opinion on G Loomis. I have no facts to back any of the following statements or ideas; they're just my opinion, right or wrong.
Before graphite, we fished with primarily glass rods. From what I recall, Loomis was one of the first to develop a quality graphite rod when graphite started to come out in the market. I believe Loomis set the ground work for quality graphite rods, thus were a bit more expensive than most other brands at that time.
Loomis built a name for him developing his rods and gained the respect of fisherman who used his product. Due to the advantages of graphite over glass, rod manufacturers had no choice but to build graphite rods.
Fast forward to today. There are so many different graphite rod manufacturers out there that you can easily find a quality rod without breaking the bank. Technology/education has allowed for rod manufactures to build quality graphite rods that aren't probably too different from one another, other than the price tag.
I believe rod manufacturers have closely caught up to the quality of that of the Loomis rods and some haven't.
I also believe sensitivity is in the hands of the beholder, not so much the rod. Like many others, my hands are very sensitive at detecting bites or bottom debris. I can feel bites using a BPS rod while others may or may not. I prefer Loomis because they offer rods that enhance the sensitivity and I simply like their rods. Are there other rods out there that perform "just as well," sure. I honestly think that if you have a hard time detecting bites with any rod, then try using a GLX or NRX rod by Loomis and see if your "bite detecting" improves.
now there's a quality post!
thanks for sharing your thoughts - i agree with all of what you said
like i wrote back to tom D, i'm not new to the sport of bass fishing and i'm just looking for an improvement in sensitivity vs. the BPS extreme; improvement that is enough to justify whatever increase in price the "better" rod happens to be.
i'm going to pick up a bcr803 and see how that compares to the 843 and i'll post back here as soon as i test
On 5/8/2012 at 4:47 AM, Tom D. said:I agree, for some of us we are trained in the slightest of taps or learned have detect them.
Kudos to glenn for showing the post editor
i've been fishing a LONG time - most of my life - probably about 18 years...so i've been able to learn the feel of a bite over those years fishing so i'm not making these comparisons just coming into the sport of bass fishing
jeb2 reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 1:52 AM, razzy3789 said:I looked at the loomis website and for the MBR843C GLX it says
An excellent all around jig and worm rod especially in deep-water applications. The extra length gives you much more casting range too. Anglers have discovered its versatility for pike, walleyes, snook, redfish and other light saltwater species. It’s powerful, with a light tip and still has enough power to move fish away from cover. Works extremely well for soft jerkbaits. A classic example of GLX technology at it's finest.
so don't tell me that i didn't look before i bought.
The MBR series was one of the rods that really propelled Loomis to fame back in the early days. And in those days, all that they say in the quote above was true. But as technology has improved, there are other rods, even in their own lines, that are better at more niche areas. Like the BCR's being more bottom contact sensitive. It would be nice if they pointed that difference out more, but it might cost them sales. So you have to look at their descriptions as advertisement and take it with a grain of salt, unfortunately.
NOT knocking the MBR843 GLX, mind you. Love mine, as I said. It's just not "best" for everything, the way the ad makes it sound like it is.
tomustang reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 5:01 AM, razzy3789 said:i'm just looking for an improvement in sensitivity vs. the BPS extreme; improvement that is enough to justify whatever increase in price the "better" rod happens to be
i've been fishing a LONG time - most of my life - probably about 18 years...so i've been able to learn the feel of a bite over those years fishing so i'm not making these comparisons just coming into the sport of bass fishing
Well sensativity is just one quality you looking at for price, the rest of the components like guides, seats, weight, balance, warranty also contribute to the price, sometimes name too.
WookieeJedi reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 5:01 AM, razzy3789 said:i've been fishing a LONG time - most of my life - probably about 18 years...so i've been able to learn the feel of a bite over those years fishing so i'm not making these comparisons just coming into the sport of bass fishing
I got a good laugh out of that. I was thinking, "I have rods and reels older than 18!" Then I realized, I really do have stuff that old. Not just fishing stuff either, stuff like shoes and jeans. It wasn't funny anymore...
tomustang reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 5:41 AM, WookieeJedi said:stuff like shoes and jeans. It wasn't funny anymore...
Either you maintained your size or you hoard
WookieeJedi reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 5:51 AM, Tom D. said:Either you maintained your size or you hoard
I am still a svelte 240, and have been for some time, sir.
juicehound reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 5:23 AM, jeb2 said:The MBR series was one of the rods that really propelled Loomis to fame back in the early days. And in those days, all that they say in the quote above was true. But as technology has improved, there are other rods, even in their own lines, that are better at more niche areas. Like the BCR's being more bottom contact sensitive. It would be nice if they pointed that difference out more, but it might cost them sales. So you have to look at their descriptions as advertisement and take it with a grain of salt, unfortunately.
NOT knocking the MBR843 GLX, mind you. Love mine, as I said. It's just not "best" for everything, the way the ad makes it sound like it is.
yeah it sure would be nice! or maybe they should discontinue some of their rods if necessary but i doubt that will happen lol
On 5/8/2012 at 5:39 AM, Tom D. said:Well sensativity is just one quality you looking at for price, the rest of the components like guides, seats, weight, balance, warranty also contribute to the price, sometimes name too.
definitely.
On 5/8/2012 at 5:41 AM, WookieeJedi said:I got a good laugh out of that. I was thinking, "I have rods and reels older than 18!" Then I realized, I really do have stuff that old. Not just fishing stuff either, stuff like shoes and jeans. It wasn't funny anymore...
bahahahahaha! that's hilarious!
Bassn Blvd reply :
Ok, kid. If you want a rod for primarily Senkos then get the BCR 893 GLX. No other Loomis rod is going to fish the Senko better than the 893 GLX, except the NRX 893..
outdoorsman110 reply :
I love you Bassn Blvd, you speak the truth. You see kid? This man knows all.On 5/8/2012 at 10:53 AM, Bassn Blvd said:Ok, kid. If you want a rod for primarily Senkos then get the BCR 893 GLX. No other Loomis rod is going to fish the Senko better than the 893 GLX, except the NRX 893..
PineappleWater reply :
I have a NRX 803S JWR and I love it! it is a little bit stiffer than i thought for a 6'8 med-heavy ex-fast but it works pretty well for my jerk baits and also wacky rigs if I plan to try it this year. It doesn't hurt either that I got 150.00 off from a tackle show lol. I would love to have another NRX 6'10 for drop shot rigging but I would wait for a deal to come around instead of buying it retail.
jeb2 reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 9:39 AM, razzy3789 said:jeb said:The MBR series was one of the rods that really propelled Loomis to fame back in the early days. And in those days, all that they say in the quote above was true. But as technology has improved, there are other rods, even in their own lines, that are better at more niche areas. Like the BCR's being more bottom contact sensitive. It would be nice if they pointed that difference out more, but it might cost them sales. So you have to look at their descriptions as advertisement and take it with a grain of salt, unfortunately.
NOT knocking the MBR843 GLX, mind you. Love mine, as I said. It's just not "best" for everything, the way the ad makes it sound like it is.
yeah it sure would be nice! or maybe they should discontinue some of their rods if necessary but i doubt that will happen lol
I think they have discontinued some rods over the years, but I'm pretty sure the MBR series is still a pretty good seller. Wouldn't make much sense to discontinue what is likely still a profitable item for them, and a great rod to boot.
BigMoneyGrip reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 10:53 AM, Bassn Blvd said:Ok, kid. If you want a rod for primarily Senkos then get the BCR 893 GLX. No other Loomis rod is going to fish the Senko better than the 893 GLX, except the NRX 893..
What reel would you pair that with? I have a Curado 50, how would that work?
roadwarrior reply :
I fish that specific combination, BCR 893/ Curado 50E
21farms reply :
On 5/6/2012 at 8:52 PM, northern basser said:Over priced but not overrated
X2!
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Anyone with a budget for a top end Gloomis would do well to consider a custom build. There are equally high performing blanks available, including from the real Gary Loomis and others.
Bassn Blvd reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 10:36 PM, BigMoneyGrip said:What reel would you pair that with? I have a Curado 50, how would that work?
I had the older model Shimano Chronarch 50mg's on both of mine. I sold both BCR 893's and 50mg's and replaced them with the NRX model and Lews Tournament Pros. The 50mg went very well with the rod and #10 Yozuri. I have not used the new Chronarch 50E.
IMO, if fishing primarily Senkos, I would stick to the lighter low profile reels, preferably under 7ounces.
Also, I must tell ya. The rod is 7'5 and fished the Senko and lighter jigs extremely well. I occasionaly fish Flukes and did not care to much fishing them with the rod because of it's length. The length was sometimes cumbersome around tight places and trying to keep the fluke moving.
The rod also handled spinner baits and cranks well.
RW fishes the 50E on his and likes it.
Hooligan reply :
BB is dead on, per the usual. THe 893 is one of the more veratile rods in the NRX and GLX line. It's one that will NEVER be replaced for me.
juicehound reply :
On 5/8/2012 at 10:53 AM, Bassn Blvd said:Ok, kid. If you want a rod for primarily Senkos then get the BCR 893 GLX. No other Loomis rod is going to fish the Senko better than the 893 GLX, except the NRX 893..
i'm not looking for a rod primarily for senkos - i don't have enough $ to get that specific w/ my gear
in my case would the bcr803 be the better choice vs. the 893?
On 5/8/2012 at 11:48 AM, outdoorsman110 said:I love you Bassn Blvd, you speak the truth. You see kid? This man knows all.
i don't think you have the age required to call me "kid" seeing as you are more than 5 years younger than i am - unless you are an old man who submitted false information and a fake pic on your profile...
at least bassn blvd is just about double my age
On 5/9/2012 at 5:22 AM, Bassn Blvd said:I had the older model Shimano Chronarch 50mg's on both of mine. I sold both BCR 893's and 50mg's and replaced them with the NRX model and Lews Tournament Pros. The 50mg went very well with the rod and #10 Yozuri. I have not used the new Chronarch 50E.
IMO, if fishing primarily Senkos, I would stick to the lighter low profile reels, preferably under 7ounces.
Also, I must tell ya. The rod is 7'5 and fished the Senko and lighter jigs extremely well. I occasionaly fish Flukes and did not care to much fishing them with the rod because of it's length. The length was sometimes cumbersome around tight places and trying to keep the fluke moving.
The rod also handled spinner baits and cranks well.
RW fishes the 50E on his and likes it.
+1 for the Lew's tournament pro SS reels i have two of them and they're fantastic - just wish they had a 6 pin centrifugal instead of the 4 pin
outdoorsman110 reply :
On 5/9/2012 at 9:47 PM, razzy3789 said:i don't think you have the age required to call me "kid" seeing as you are more than 5 years younger than i am - unless you are an old man who submitted false information and a fake pic on your profile...
at least bassn blvd is just about double my age
Oh well sorrrrry that it offended you so much that you had to type about it.
juicehound reply :
On 5/9/2012 at 9:51 PM, outdoorsman110 said:Oh well sorrrrry that it offended you so much that you had to type about it.
hmmm
i'm not even a fan of it from people much older than myself - it's just a demeaning term to use when speaking to someone. thats all.
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