Yo Zuri Ultrasoft....you've let me down 2024
=Matt 5.0= reply :
I had a brand new spool (as in it was spooled up 2 months ago) of 12# on my Revo SX. Fishing with Tin today, and for the first (and last) time, the Ultrasoft let me down. Made a nice long side arm lob with the baitcaster (with the Berkley paddletail) and about 15 yards out the line breaks in mid cast. No specific reason, just snapped.
Also, I've heard talk of this line having "braid like memory". But, after repeated uses of KVD, and even running the line through a rag soaked in KVD when it was spooled...these are the results:
I'm considering taking the Ultrasoft off the spinning reel too.... 
MNGeorge reply :
Can't wait for RW's response to this post.
RobbyZ5001 reply :
I am right there with you on that line. I hated that line.
fishbear reply :
This is like waiting for the chef to come out after you complained your steak was not cooked right.
=Matt 5.0= reply :
QuoteThis is like waiting for the chef to come out after you complained your steak was not cooked right.
No instigating here, just stating the facts with photographic evidence.
wickyman reply :
I really don't like Yo zuri line, at all. It's not worth the cash, when you take into consideration that you can spend less cash, and get the same d**n quality, if not better, than the results you are having... That's too bad...
burleytog reply :
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Chad. reply :
QuoteI really don't like Yo zuri line, at all. It's not worth the cash, when you take into consideration that you can spend less cash, and get the same d**n quality, if not better, than the results you are having... That's too bad...
yo zuri is pretty cheap line or good price :-? I've noticed from a few of your post you tend to be frugal?
daviscw reply :
I use Regular Hybrid 10# and it doesn't seem that bad. I always spray my reel with the KVD conditioner as I leave the house.
soccplayer07 reply :
i know this doesnt help your cause...but i love the line. maybe a bad spool...
Lucky Craft Man reply :
I love Yo-Zuri Hybrid, but I do not like Ultra Soft At ALL. I bought some Ultra Soft thinking it would be better, but I hated how it handled. I'm back to the regular Yo-Zuri Hybrid.
Alpster reply :
I have Ultra Soft spooled on 1/2 a dozen reels and I love it. Nothing except braid has 'braid like' memory. I am convinced that you can get a "bad spool". It's the only explanation as to why some guys HATE particular lines, the first time they use them. If you are breaking line on the cast, it has to be defective or damaged line. I would return it for a replacement if I didn't damage it myself. No matter what brand it is. I still change out line 2 or 3 times a season. Bulk spools make it affordable.
Ronnie
FishTank reply :
I am not positve but I might suspect that the line conditioner had something to do with it.
I used some of the KVD line conditioner on several types of line and on some if I put to much on, it causes the line to become brittle. I have not had that happen to the Ultra-Soft yet. It has happend to me on the regular Hybrid and some Trilene Professional Fluorocarbon.
I would give it another try without the KVD Line Conditioner.
Tin reply :
I hope we are beyond it now and can laugh. I have never seen such garbage. But I'm, sure it was just a bad batch or you did something WRONG when you put it on.
It's just like the Gammy hook conversation we had.
wickyman reply :
QuoteQuoteI really don't like Yo zuri line, at all. It's not worth the cash, when you take into consideration that you can spend less cash, and get the same d**n quality, if not better, than the results you are having... That's too bad...yo zuri is pretty cheap line or good price :-? I've noticed from a few of your post you tend to be frugal?
It's not typically that cheap, when you think about it, versus a spool of something else, almost 2 times the size... I don't buy cheap line, but I don't spend a ton on it... I spend what I can afford, at a given time. I plan to buy some kind of braid in the future, near future, but I don't plan to spend 30+ bucks on it... You know?
roadwarrior reply :
Hmm...
Regardless of the cause:
I would take the line back for exchange or send it back if you ordered
online with a polite note describing what happen. This event is not
typical.
Regarding memory:
I have stated that line memory in Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft is
comparable to braid when the line is "in use". Some coiling will
be present from storing the line on the spool of your reel. After
a cast or two, the line loses its memory.
Regarding KVD Line & Lure Conditioner:
This a product that lives up to all of its claims. With a single
application, line becomes more manageable, friction is reduced
(slick), backlashes are easier to unravel and line memory is
virtually eliminated. The statement that KVD resulted in making
line more brittle seems ridiculous to me based on my experience
over the past several months.
Regarding cost:
Even at full-bore retail, $12 for 600 yards isn't particularly expensive.
1000 yards of original Hybrid is occasionally on sale at BPS and other
retailers for $7.88. 1 lb spools of Ultra Soft #6 are currently on sale
at Cabelas for just under $60.
In summary, I suggest having the line replaced at no cost and trying
another spool. If that doesn't work out, the loss is something less than
life threatening. Fortunately, alternatives are numerous and readily
available. Not everyone will like Yo-Zuri Hybrid or Hybrid Ultra Soft,
but I do and continue to strongly recommend this line to all
serious fishermen. It has never let me down and I have never
been broken off by a fish using either of the Yo-Zuri lines.
8-)
Sam reply :
The Master has spoken.
Heed his advice.
Bud reply :
QuoteHmm...Regardless of the cause:
I would take the line back for exchange or send it back if you ordered
online with a polite note describing what happen. This event is not
typical.
Regarding memory:
I have stated that line memory in Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft is
comparable to braid when the line is "in use". Some coiling will
be present from storing the line on the spool of your reel. After
a cast or two, the line loses its memory.
Regarding KVD Line & Lure Conditioner:
This a product that lives up to all of its claims. With a single
application, line becomes more manageable, friction is reduced
(slick), backlashes are easier to unravel and line memory is
virtually eliminated. The statement that KVD resulted in making
line more brittle seems ridiculous to me based on my experience
over the past several months.
Regarding cost:
Even at full-bore retail, $12 for 600 yards isn't particularly expensive.
1000 yards of original Hybrid is occasionally on sale at BPS and other
retailers for $7.88. 1 lb spools of Ultra Soft #6 are currently on sale
at Cabelas for just under $60.
In summary, I suggest having the line replaced at no cost and trying
another spool. If that doesn't work out, the loss is something less than
life threatening. Fortunately, alternatives are numerous and readily
available. Not everyone will like Yo-Zuri Hybrid or Hybrid Ultra Soft,
but I do and continue to strongly recommend this line to all
serious fishermen. It has never let me down and I have never
been broken off by a fish using either of the Yo-Zuri lines.
X2
tyrius. reply :
QuoteIt's not typically that cheap, when you think about it, versus a spool of something else, almost 2 times the size... I don't buy cheap line, but I don't spend a ton on it... I spend what I can afford, at a given time. I plan to buy some kind of braid in the future, near future, but I don't plan to spend 30+ bucks on it... You know?
I don't know what line you fish, but 275 yards of Ultra Soft is like $8 and 330 yard of Trilene XT is right around $6. That price difference is negligible. Plus, with US you're getting a copolymer and not straight mono so it should cost a bit more than straight mono.
With that said, I haven't used Ultra Soft but the price is most certainly NOT expensive.
Davis reply :
Price is good but I don't care for it either. It's been the only line this year that has let me down as well. Too many breaks and they weren't at the knot (couple of them broke while bringing the fish to shore so I could see where it broke).
BPS XPS Fluoro in 8 lb
Cabelas 10lb mono
Big Game 12 lb mono
Power Pro 30 lb braid
These have been my line of choices this year on different rigs and I have ZERO complaints with these four.
Tokyo Tony reply :
I don't understand how this line could have breaking problems. It's by far the strongest line I've used other than braid, and also very abrasion-resistant.
I also had trouble with memory, but applying KVD and letting it settle overnight just about eliminates any hint of memory. It is important to let it set overnight though.
That said, I still used braid 95% of the time (Yo-Zuri US the other 5%). The long casts and zero stretch are features that I am not willing to give up.
daviscw reply :
QuotePrice is good but I don't care for it either. It's been the only line this year that has let me down as well. Too many breaks and they weren't at the knot (couple of them broke while bringing the fish to shore so I could see where it broke).BPS XPS Fluoro in 8 lb
Cabelas 10lb mono
Big Game 12 lb mono
Power Pro 30 lb braid
These have been my line of choices this year on different rigs and I have ZERO complaints with these four.
Weren't you the guy that said a couple of days ago your line was breaking because you weren't cleaning out your backlashes all the way? Was this with the Yo-Zuri and are you sure thats a line issue? Try the Regular Hybrid when you go out next. It works well for me.
=Matt 5.0= reply :
QuoteI don't understand how this line could have breaking problems.
That makes two of us. This is my second year using it....
roadwarrior reply :
Probable cause:
Deep backlash. Both original formula Yo-Zuri Hybrid
and Hybrid Ultra Soft are a bonded fluorocarbon/ nylon
copolymer. Fluorocarbon is an inert crystal which is why
it lasts indefinitely. The fluoro in the line "cracks" when
it is severly bent and is visible as a kink or weak spot.
The spot can be easily felt and should come as no surprise
as it is not some hidden flaw in the line.
Solution:
Strip the line containing any apparant flaws. I like to have
80-100 yards of fresh line, the rest is effectively backing.
However, Hybrid and Hybrid Ultra Soft never get old, so they
should only be replaced "as needed".
8-)
=Matt 5.0= reply :
Cool, thank you. 8-)
Davis reply :
QuoteQuotePrice is good but I don't care for it either. It's been the only line this year that has let me down as well. Too many breaks and they weren't at the knot (couple of them broke while bringing the fish to shore so I could see where it broke).BPS XPS Fluoro in 8 lb
Cabelas 10lb mono
Big Game 12 lb mono
Power Pro 30 lb braid
These have been my line of choices this year on different rigs and I have ZERO complaints with these four.
Weren't you the guy that said a couple of days ago your line was breaking because you weren't cleaning out your backlashes all the way? Was this with the Yo-Zuri and are you sure thats a line issue? Try the Regular Hybrid when you go out next. It works well for me.
No that was with Cabelas. Hasn't happened since.
Good line and recommend it. I think it was Muddys line of choice as well.
My Yo-Zuri #6 was being put on my spinning rod. Wasn't a loop issue or knot issue. Just breaking. My line was turning into a milky color though instead of that nice green color. Maybe that was a sign of weakning? Was fishing this line in the creek when I had problems. Maybe its a rock issue?
I just know that my BPS Fluoro in 8lb has been amazing in the creek for smallies. No breakoffs yet.
roadwarrior reply :
QuoteMy Yo-Zuri #6 was being put on my spinning rod. Wasn't a loop issue or knot issue. Just breaking. My line was turning into a milky color though instead of that nice green color. Maybe that was a sign of weakning? Was fishing this line in the creek when I had problems. Maybe its a rock issue?I just know that my BPS Fluoro in 8lb has been amazing in the creek for smallies. No breakoffs yet.
I have no idea what happen there. My #6 line doesn't change color or break.
Don't know...
8-)
Davis reply :
QuoteQuoteMy Yo-Zuri #6 was being put on my spinning rod. Wasn't a loop issue or knot issue. Just breaking. My line was turning into a milky color though instead of that nice green color. Maybe that was a sign of weakning? Was fishing this line in the creek when I had problems. Maybe its a rock issue?I just know that my BPS Fluoro in 8lb has been amazing in the creek for smallies. No breakoffs yet.
I have no idea what happen there. My #6 line doesn't change color or break.
Don't know...
8-)
Probably is a bad batch then. Keep my fishing tackle and supplies in a cool room inside drawers where sun can't get to it.
I'll give another spool a shot and see what happens.
The_Natural reply :
Line is a personal preference, and unfortunately even if it was just a bad spool...your confidence in the line is gone. Same thing happened to me with Trilene Sensation. I kept breaking off at the knot. Many swear by this line and it was thrown around that I possibly got a bad spool. By that point I was done though. The line that comes to mind that should behave like Ultra Soft would be Pline CX Premium. It's limp and had great clarity.
weknowhowtolive reply :
All these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times.
Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference thing but thats just me... :
roadwarrior reply :
QuoteAll these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times.Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference thing but thats just me... :
The two most important components of your equipment package
are hooks and line, but not necessarily in that order!
:
weknowhowtolive reply :
Of course line is important, I'm just saying a popular line brand thats been sold for years with tons of people using it shouldnt be breaking mid cast for no reason. If it is its either a bad batch or you did something wrong.QuoteQuoteAll these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times.Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference thing but thats just me... :
The two most important parts of your equipment are hooks and line,
but not necessarily in that order!
:
roadwarrior reply :
No.
I use to fish P-Line Floroclear and that is why I quit using the line.
I had the same problem (and others) with Sensation. Both lines
have been around for years and as far as I can tell, still popular
with many.
A bigger issue with many lines is their tensile strength verses rated
strength. Stretch is involved, but the formula makeup is an important
factor. All lines are not created equal.
My biggest pet peeve is people getting "broken off". There is no
reason for that either, but it happens all of the time. Line selection
is much more than just personal preference, many factors and a
variety of attributes come into play. I think the bottomline is really
"trade-offs". The perfect line has not been discovered yet!
8-)
=Matt 5.0= reply :
QuoteAll these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times.Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference thing but thats just me... :
How often d you go out fishing? Once a month? Once every few months? We go every single weekend and sometimes 2-3 times during the week after work. On a given Saturday / Sunday we could spend 12 hours a day on the water. We work hard and then we play hard so the stuff is gonna get tested...know what I mean.
weknowhowtolive reply :
Mhm, just because it gets stressed doesnt mean that its supposed to break off 15 feet after casting, which is why I'm saying it must have been bad line.QuoteQuoteAll these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times.Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference thing but thats just me... :
How often d you go out fishing? Once a month? Once every few months? We go every single weekend and sometimes 2-3 times during the week after work. On a given Saturday / Sunday we could spend 12 hours a day on the water. We work hard and then we play hard so the stuff is gonna get tested...know what I mean.
From this months Bassmaster:
Mike McLelland - #15 Seaguar fluoro
Brian Snowden - #20 BPS fluoro
Bobby Lane - #17 and #20 Berkley fluoro, #50 spiderwire
KVD - #17 BPS Fluoro
Ray Sedgwick - #14 Stren Easy Cast, #15 Trilene Fluoro
Scott Rook - #20 Trilene fluoro
All these dudes who fish for a living seem to use different stuff, so while one person is going to have a bad experience and say such and such gear is horrible, while someone else says they love it, I really think its a personal preference thing.
Davis reply :
It's not just a personal preference thing. Also think the type of water you fish comes into play in a HUGE way.
I liked the way Yo-Zuri handles....just didn't like that I was having trouble in the rocks/shale/gravel with it. When I was fishing weeds and open water there were no issues.
roadwarrior reply :
QuoteIt's not just a personal preference thing. Also think the type of water you fish comes into play in a HUGE way.I liked the way Yo-Zuri handles....just didn't like that I was having trouble in the rocks/shale/gravel with it. When I was fishing weeds and open water there were no issues.
That's funny...
I fish the "Rocks from Hell" and that
is one of Yo-Zuri's GREATEST
attributes!
The abrasion resistance is second to none.
8-)
mattm reply :
Roadwarrior,
I know you are an ex P-Line CXX user. Are you saying that Yo-Zuri is more abrasion resistant than CXX? If so, that is impressive. One of the main reasons I have stuck with CXX despite hearing numerous praises of Yo-Zuri, is how tough CXX is. In the end I always decided dealing with memory was worth the toughness.
grimlin reply :
QuoteRegarding memory:
I have stated that line memory in Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft is
comparable to braid when the line is "in use". Some coiling will
be present from storing the line on the spool of your reel. After
a cast or two, the line loses its memory.
I find this to be true,as i actually put an inline spinner on 2 weeks ago found some twisting taking place took the inline spinner back off and replaces with a tube and the twists and coils went away after maybe 10 casts at the most.This line has been impressing me every single time i fish with it.I'm using 6# ultra soft on my spinning rig and absolutely love it.
roadwarrior reply :
QuoteRoadwarrior,I know you are an ex P-Line CXX user. Are you saying that Yo-Zuri is more abrasion resistant than CXX? If so, that is impressive. One of the main reasons I have stuck with CXX despite hearing numerous praises of Yo-Zuri, is how tough CXX is. In the end I always decided dealing with memory was worth the toughness.
I am saying it is every bit as tough, but as was mentioned earlier in this thread, backlash creates kinks or weak spots in the line that should be replaced. So, tough yes, puts up with abuse, no. I'm still looking for the perfect line!
8-)
mattm reply :
hmmmmm, I have some thinking to do. Anyone else used CXX and Ultra-soft and agree with RW that toughness is equal.
fish-fighting-illini reply :
Matt 5 no way that stuff breaks w/o being a bad spool. I'm using 6lb and have a heck of a time getting it to break when I get a snag. No break off issues for me.
Tin reply :
QuoteThe perfect line has not been discovered yet!
Yes it has, Trilene 100%.
burleytog reply :
Quotehmmmmm, I have some thinking to do. Anyone else used CXX and Ultra-soft and agree with RW that toughness is equal.
Nope, CXX > US
ABC123 reply :
QuoteAll these line threads confuse me. The only line ive ever had a problem with fishing for any kind of fish is cheap line that comes prespooled on cheap combo reels. Maybe its a tourny issue and is more serious when there is big money on the line but I've never had a problem with any big name brand line breaking at random times.Really seems like a brand loyalty/preference thing but thats just me... :
I've had bad spools from a few "name brands". PP is the only one I have sworn off, only becouse I found lines I all around like better, so why try it again???
Alpster reply :
It amazes me that anyone is breaking this line. I use the same wooden dowel that I use for braid when I get snagged. I wrap the US two or three times on the dowel and pull. More times than not, I straighten out the hook instead of breaking the line. I fish in a lot of heavy wood cover and stay snagged. I have towed my boat all over my lake pulling on this line. If you are breaking this line during normal fishing, it's either a defective spool or you are damaging the line somehow. Next to Power Pro braid, this is the toughest line I have used. Including P-Line. That's my experience. FWIW.
Ronnie
Micro reply :
QuoteI straighten out the hook instead of breaking the line.Ronnie
I did that today with regular Hybrid 12#. Snagged a slider head on pier piling cross-member, pulled on the line and pulled up a slider head with a hook bent to 90 degrees. I've never broken Hybrid.
Hookemdown. reply :
I use 3 lines.
Trilene Big game for my baitcasters. Don't hate.
As for my spinning outfits (which I use 70% of the time) I prefer Yo-zuri US. Like everyone said, it's mixture of strength toughness and castability is amazing.
The third line is Trilene XL. I use this line on my spinning outfits when I run out of US.
skillet reply :
I fished original Stren for a looonnng time and finally changed over to CXX and was tickled pink with the strength and no stretch (compared to what I had been using). The memory thing (for me) was a real problem. Started using US and the strength thing was there and LOT less memory. Don't have any figures to back up breaking point but both lines (12 lb) would either pull loose or straighten the hook without breaking...
As Ever,
skillet
firefightn15 reply :
Yo Zuri US all the way. I'm not gonna knock others, but I have been using us for 3 different applications, and have not had any issues, including break-offs. As far as memory. As RW stated, make acouple of casts, and the line is ready to go. I don't think that you can ask more unless your gonna be using a braid.
The_Natural reply :
QuoteQuotehmmmmm, I have some thinking to do. Anyone else used CXX and Ultra-soft and agree with RW that toughness is equal.Nope, CXX > US
That's what I was going to say. You can make a lot of claims...less memory, better casting, etc...but in the strength and abrasion department CXX is unchallenged IMHO. I've only used the regular Yozuri Hybrid, but it can't match CXX so I can't imagine the Ultra Soft is stronger/more abrasion resistant than the regular Hybrid. CXX isn't a forgiving line...it's tough as sheet, but some say it isn't user friendly (I honestly don't think it is bad at all). However, if CXX were a cigarette, it would be a Camel non-filter. If it were dip, it would be Copenhagen. Catch my drift? It isn't silk, but when you need the toughest crap out there...CXX is your line. Memory?! Grow a pair! (or as burley said "deal with it".) It isn't wire...just not Trilene XL.
roadwarrior reply :
Exactly how tough does it have to be?
I fish "The Rocks from Hell" on the Tennessee River and have no issues.
8-)
Rob Faddis reply :
I want to assure everyone that the comment about KVD Line & Lure making line brittle is not even possible. It's like saying that hand lotion made your hands crack. The symptoms mentioned are not related to the use of Line & Lure. Even so, if fishtank is dissatisfied with the product we will gladly refund his money.
roadwarrior reply :
QuoteI want to assure everyone that the comment about KVD Line & Lure making line brittle is not even possible. It's like saying that hand lotion made your hands crack. The symptoms mentioned are not related to the use of Line & Lure. Even so, if fishtank is dissatisfied with the product we will gladly refund his money.
I've got your back, buddy.
Earlier in the thread I addressed that statement, but again:
Ridiculous!
8-)
FishTank reply :
QuoteQuoteI want to assure everyone that the comment about KVD Line & Lure making line brittle is not even possible. It's like saying that hand lotion made your hands crack. The symptoms mentioned are not related to the use of Line & Lure. Even so, if fishtank is dissatisfied with the product we will gladly refund his money.I've got your back, buddy.
Earlier in the thread I addressed that statement, but again:
Ridiculous!
8-)
Sorry guys, I am going to stand by my statement that I over applied the KVD line conditioner to some 12lb Yo-Zuri U.S. and it caused the line to be brittle. I have been using this line conditioner for the past 3 years and I usually only use a couple of pumps of the spray the night before fishing.
The reel I used, just in case, was a Curado 201BSF which I use for crankbaits. I usually use the regular Yo-Zuri (10lb) on this reel but I wanted to try some of the US in the 12lb since it was so highly recommended and I love the 6lb on my spinning gear. Where I made my mistake was I applied it this time by spraying a lint free cloth, applying it as I spooled the reel and then spraying a pump or two on line when I was done spoolling the line. The reel set unused for about a month and as part of my routine, I sprayed it again the night before. I tried fishing with this line but it was down right crispy.
This is the part that makes me think it is the line conditioner.
I used the rest of the spool on a Calais 201A with no line conditiner and it performed perfectly. Love this line....
I had previously this year applied KVD line conditioner to some 15lb Trilene Professional Fluorocarbon using the same method (rag and pumping some on after spooling) and had the same results but had nothing to compare it to. So I just thought I had a bad spool.
I have since just been spraying it on my line as needed the night before I fish. I have had no issues what so ever. As matter of fact, I respooled my Core last night with some 12lb Trilene Fluorocarbon and sprayed some KVD line conditioner on it after I spooled it. This moring it casted like a dream.
roadwarrior reply :
Hey Fish Tank!
I know you are a stand-up guy, but it's gotta be something else.
I soak the new spools before putting it on a reel and spray the heck
out of the line when I'm putting it on.
I don't have an answer and I don't want to come across challenging
your word, but it just has to be something else and I don't know what
it could be.
:-/
Alpster reply :
QuoteWhere I made my mistake was I applied it this time by spraying a lint free cloth, applying it as I spooled the reel and then spraying a pump or two on line when I was done spoolling the line. The reel set unused for about a month and as part of my routine, I sprayed it again the night before. I tried fishing with this line but it was down right crispy.
I don't get it either. I apply KVD exactly the way you describe. As a matter of fact SPEEDBEAD and I spooled up a couple of my reels and one or two of his with #12 YZUS and cranked it through a terry cloth soaked with KVD and sprayed it on every day we fished at Guntersville. I am still using the same line on the same reels (Mg50s) and re-applying KVD and it's performing flawlessly for me. Has to be something else going on. :-? :-/
Ronnie
FishTank reply :
QuoteHey Fish Tank!I know you are a stand-up guy, but it's gotta be something else.
I soak the new spools before putting it on a reel and spray the heck
out of the line when I'm putting it on.
I don't have an answer and I don't want to come across challenging
your word, but it just has to be something else and I don't know what
it could be.
:-/
I thought it might be the rag, maybe a chemical or something causing a reaction. But I checked the manufacture's package, it states that it is both lint and chemical free. We use these same rags at work to wipe of print heads and laser housings, just in case.
If I have time and don't hold me to it, I will see if I can reproduce this and post some pics. I have three bottles of this line conditioner, one of which is the original stuff in the gray bottle (pre-KVD). I will use some of each for a comparison.
Rob Faddis reply :
Well in all fairness, has anyone had line degrade from using Line & Lure out there? This is something that we want to know in an effort to make/keep a superior product. Let us know.
Fish Tank, I in no way meant to infer that you don't know what you're talking about. Sorry if is seemed that way. It's just that there is nothing in L&L that can make line brittle. Unless it's been messed with?? Got any practical jokers around?
Rob Faddis reply :
QuoteI have three bottles of this line conditioner, one of which is the original stuff in the gray bottle (pre-KVD). I will use some of each for a comparison
Well, I think we may have found the problem. The Line & Lure label has been the same since it's release to market in April of 2005. The only label you could get from us is the black and white one with KVD in his 2005 white jersey. We have never produced any gray label bottles. There is a product that I recently discovered that is another "line & Lure" produced by a company called Weatherlock. They had the audacity to actually steal our trademarked name and use it on the market. If it is this product, IT IS NOT KVD Line & Lure Conditioner. Got a picture of this gray-labeled bottle? And the plot thickens!
FishTank reply :
I am at work currently but I will post a pic later.
Each of the bottles I have were free give aways from tournaments or fishing expos. The grey bottle I have had for quite some time. It is not a spray but a drip bottle and it has only been used on spinning gear. I like the pump better. The drip bottle would cause the solution to run when it was put on. I hardly ever used it.
FishTank reply :
Time for bed so. Here is one pic for know.
The bottle on the right is what I have been using
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